3 Dog Pat

Cool pic. So does that mean the may company facade was put on after this picture, or am I not seeing this correctly? I love how the Society for savings building towered over everything then. Now it is a cute little brother to Key tower. (OK what I think is the county admin building is bigger, but you get what I am saying)

homesick :cry: (for one of my many homes)

It matters to me and many people on this board. This is a discussion group dedicated to urbanity. Euclid Avenue was rebuilt to connect our two gems, downtown and uptown, University Circle. Euclid Avenue has the potential to become the main street of the city's residents, not just its businesses. With the Healthline, the employment centers, the available land and buildings, nearly all the elements to foster a healthy dense mixed use main street over time are there. What is missing is wise planning and the discipline to not jump at any offer for the land in pure desperation. Euclid Avenue deserves better than that, Cleveland deserves better than that.

They did it at the old Lake theater as well. What they did at lake was they took the back half of the massive theater seating and made one small theater to the left and right of a long hallway that took you to the main theater. It worked well at Lake. If it is done that way, you will still have the original stage and lobby.

8shades, any national press love for this, other than the cool NYT article a while back?

^Can't see that being too much of a problem with art films

hubz1124, you would have no problem if the hospital was set up in the middle of the property, surrounded by parking, then grass, then a fence?

You used to just look at the city from 11th floor? I had more fun than you.

you know what is missing from this, a quote like "and we will require these institutions to build in accordance to the strict zoning and design standards established for Midtown area. These new buildings will compliment the work done on the Healthline" He didn't say it, because I doubt it will happen. "The daily flow of thousands of people to the district will stimulate new shops, restaurants and the like." Kind of like how the Clinic stimulates all of that street activity? I HOPE HOPE HOPE I am wrong and will gladly hear "I told you so" for years if these buildings are done right. I just have no faith in the city on this one. For the record, I absolutely no beef with the mental health hospital, there were a few in the Chicago neighborhoods I lived in, and never noticed them. But, seriously, transitional housing on what is supposed to be our showcase street? It couldn't go on Superior or Chester?

WOW!

What does everyone think the Indians main problem is, inability to identify talent, or inability to develop talent? Both or neither?

Lets bring this back to the topic of the CC/MM

^For who, the chocolate bar?

The Dolan era truly sucks.

Mayday dearest

Precisely! Thanks MH. The Schofield probably needs more work, but I am sure it can be done well.

Sorry, I meant the before and after shots, it is somewhere on this forum. An old Euclid Ave thread I think. I am not the master of the search function this morning.

They are going to measure "coolness" and then measure the cost of Heineken. I see a problem

I'm starting this discussion to try to determine if sprawl is a local concern or does is it have a statewide impact. If possible ,let’s keep the CO2/enviromental aspects in the already established threads. The question I pose stems from a new development under study in Columbus http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,18684.0.html in which a headline declares “Development Deal in Jerome Township may be the answer to the City of Columbus’ financial woes.” Would a development like that have any impact, good or bad on other parts of the state? If highways are built or expanded, does that just come out of the money that Columbus would have been already allocated, or is it diverted from other parts of the state? If this development brings in business from out of state, doesn’t the increased state taxes benefit everyone? I was knee jerk against this. I don’t like sprawl in general, and I genuinely like Columbus’s urban core; I don’t think spreading the city out further is sustainable. But as a Clevelander (in exile) really, is this any of our business?

I have been unable to find it, but Mayday did a before and after pictue of the building that now houses bang and clatter near E. 4th. It is an example of how a building's facade can be restored. Anyone know where that is?

Well my thoughts on the PDs coverage of the CC/MM and the county commissioners is well documented. They have an axe to grind.

Had they bought that property, they would be constructing a county HQ there. IIRC, at the time they wanted to reserve that area for CC related developments, like a new hotel.

:) thank you I guess that means it has superior connectivity :evil:

They have some points, but IMHO, the benefits far outweigh the costs

grumble (jerk) grumble (throw us a rendering) grumble grumble (maybe a timeline) grumble (a freakin' description) grumble Oh, excuse me I had something in my throat that I decided to type verbatim. Anywho, wouldn't an intermodal hub that extends from the CC to the north coast harbor, connecting the shoreway, waterfront line, and Amtrak, and interurban be swell?