Pollyanna

I have to disagree from personal knowledge... Not through their own country and their own countries nationalized health plans. The Clintons Canadian pals came here for treatment. Castro went elsewhere for treatment The Brits are pulling their own teeth with pliers or traveling to other places for treatment and I have personal friends and acquaintances who have gone elsewhere and paid out of pocket to get health care we take for granted as normal and common treatment.

Hi Pope Asshat, what a funny name 8-) but, I really did mean poop because these topics can be so incendiary, whether you mean for them to be or not. It is very important to look at other places where nationalized/socialized medicine has been implemented and look at how well it works or in the cases mentioned does not work. thomasbw, It does not matter how much less Cubans or Canadians or Brits spend if they cannot get everyday care that we take for granted (ex. wellness checkups, MRI's, cancer treatments, etc) Not much in my case. My employer is moving more and more toward the consumer driven health care plans. It is a pain in the beginning but I do like making my own choices and decisions about my health spending account $$. Hi LK, what I mean and meant by Socialized medicine is any government run plan. The plan that Hillary is proposing and the Democrats are trying to push with all the additional adult coverage and coverage for those just under $100,000 a year (SCHIP) - that is what I am meaning.

Well, poop, :wave: my first post here may get me noosed and hanged........ :wtf: Mr. Cranley's CincyCare is Hillary style socialized medicine. We know it doesn't work -- Canadians go elsewhere -- Cubans go elsewhere -- and the latest story was on Brits who are using super glue to reset crowns and pliers to pull their own teeth because the government dentists are so bad and care is non-existent. As much as I admit that the present health care costs are through the roof and much needs to be done, I disagree that we should hand our health care dollars and decisions over to the government. Mr. Cranley has obviously left some important info. for after Nov 6....such as - Who will be paying for this plan?? Answer, of course, is US/We are - the productive/the workers/the already overburdened due to social entitlement programs - taxpayers. Ok then....