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Yes, an automotive alternator ($50.00) an rpm step up pulley system/automotive fan belt, a broomstick for an axle and home made blades (think model airplane) are all you need. Lots of plans avialable on the interweb!

$300,000 would be chump change for the Cleveland Foundation. Also, by purchasing hard assets, the money could be recovered later when other funds are raised for a museum/working line. This bad economy won't last forever.

I am going to have to ask a stupid question. The county already owns an asbestos free 30 story office building gutted to the core. Would it really be that expensive to put up some temporary walls, RF computer networks, etc. and turn on the HVAC for a few years? I really don't believe the B.S. about floor plate size, ceiling heights, etc. being problems. King County (seat of city of Seattle) bought a recently built 50 story office building in downtown Seattle out of forclosure about 10 years ago and filled it with government offices (City light, Water Dept, Finance, etc.). The floor plates look the same to me. Ceilings don't look so high, etc. It has worked fine for 10 years. Why not in Cleveland?

Hmmm....Back on topic. Does anyone actually know what happened to the fountains? Are they in storage? Could we at least do some sort of water feature? At least a slip-n-slide?

Ouch! The peak one-zone fare in Seattle (e.g. downtown to Maple heights, rush hour) is $2.00. Our sales tax revenue is probably better though.

If we dnon't incarcerate these individuals as long as possible to get them off the streets these neiborhoods will implode regardless of how much money is invested in them.

We simply cannot afford to imprison an 18 yr. old for the rest of his life for these specific crimes. I am willing to pay to imprison him for the rest of his life. I am willing to do so ahead of my other tax obligations. Not trying to diminish the crimes, but we have much, much bigger fish to fry such as murderers, child molestors, rapists, etc. He was one step away from killing. He chopped sombody with an ax while he was robbing them. Armed robbery is a very, very serious crime, but it does not warrant life in prison Why not? nor could we afford to imprison every armed robber for life. agian, isn't this our first responsibility as a civilized society? Our prison system is in the red as it is. So what- spend more On the other hand, he should have got more than 4 yrs. But we don't have the whole story, such as whether the State needed his copperation to convict the other defendants.

"How serious were the physical injuries? Were stitches required and/or was there intent to cause significant bodily harm? Or was there just an intent to intimidate?" ??? you hold a knife to some stanger's throat and rob them you should loose your right to live in civil society. period. This is what the "three strikes" laws are all about.

Insane, our society is self destructing. Why are we unwilling to incarcerate sociopaths? Does 40 years sound too light? These animals are going to kill sombody someday.

I have always had a soft spot for the TT. I think it is one of the most beautiful skyscrapers in the United States, right up there with the Chrysler Bldg. and reasonably tall too. Why doesn't it get more respect outside of Cleveland?

I don't buy it that Ohio can't compete. We have a good work force, good educational system (compared to Gerogia), good housing stock, recreational opportunites, an OK climate, etc. While I am no expert on Dayton I know that Georgia and Atlanta have its own share of problems. What they do have (and Ohio lacks) is a shameless self promotion attitude and a highly favorable pro-business attitude. Very few politicians in Ohio understand that sometimes to make money you have to spend money. It is a political leaders job to take the no-taxes retired auto worker crowd, the spend the money on the poor leftist crowd, etc. and convince them that it is in their own interest (or politically overpower them) to fund business creation. While I am no fan of Gov. Taft at least he started/maintained Third Frontier/Edison institutes which right now is the only thing we have going for us. Former mayor of Cleveland, Mike White understood this in spite of his other problems. Mayor Jackson, Ted Strickland, mayor of Dayton, et al. do not and are essentially anti-business populists. They are totally out of their league when competing with theri counterparts in Atlanta and Georgia. Between the Kucinich city populists in NE Ohio and the rural "don't spend my money" crowd in the south we are doomed without strong leadership. Columbus (city) and Akron sort of get it. People in the rest of Ohio need to be deprogramed from thinking that business is a dirty word. I have lived in Seattle for the last twenty years and I can tell you that for all its pro-labor, leftist reputation when it comes to business, for the most part Microsoft and Boeing have gotten whatever they wanted over the last 30 years. The poor (both rural and urban) have been left to fend for themselves.

I have read this thread from start to finish and I still don't understand why KJP's plan to by pass the I-90 bridge by transferring the traffic to I 480 is an official nonstarter. It would seem that someone at ODOT must have considered it, what stopped them? Is it just inertia? It seems like a no-brainer to me or did I miss something in the above thread?

Stunning-let's go diving!

A question re: L.I. I went to Case in the 70's . Although there were not a lot of African Americans in the Engineering Program there were some. My classmate Georgio Mc Beath (sp?) lived in the south campus dorms (L.I. side) for four years as did some other black students. No problem with L. I. Toughs that I ever heard (although I did know some Pika's that got into fights with the locals). Also, my girlfriend from India (very dank skinned) lived in L.I. in graduate school. Again no problems. Do the L.I. toughs have esp to know which dark shined people are Case students and are thus Ok to be there and which are not or am I off base here? Doc Broc?

The Lake Erie videos were a real surprise. Much more tropical feeling that I would have expected. Good marine life density. Visibility was OK. Add a 12 foot sturgeon and some prehistoric looking gar fish and you would have a real dive destination tourist attraction! I know the wreck diving really is world class but due to the thermocline I expect it is really cold. Although, I saw one of the divers with a bald head and no hood so it couldn't have been that cold. Also, he was diving on a single tank so it probably isn't extreme diving. I would like to know more about this and what if anything the local dive industry is doing to promote Lake Erie diving, marine habitat, etc.

Wow _ that is a gorgeous fish. I would love to scuba/Snorkle in Lake Eire and see a fish like that. Is there such a thing as a fresh water octopus?

I like the photo too-huba huba!

Damn you and your fancy photography. What are you trying to do, kill us?

I owned a late 80's Schwinn voyager touring bike Beautiful lugged Cromoly frame, Suntour components (upgraded to grease guard inJectible bottom bracket) etc. Added front and rear rack, etc.. I toured that thing all over Washington state, Oregon, Canada. Sold it for An Italian racing frame. wish I still had it. Only problem was it was heavy. about 25 lbs. stripped but the quality / price ratio was superb.

I owned a late 80's Schwinn voyager touring bike Beautiful lugged Cromoly frame, Suntour components (upgraded to grease guard inJectible bottom bracket) etc. Added front and rear rack, etc.. I toured that thing all over Washington state, Oregon, Canada. Sold it for An Italian racing frame. wish I still had it. Only problem was it was heavy. about 25 lbs. stripped but the quality / price ratio was superb.

Cheap shot. At the end of the day you will be judged on your productivity first-whether or not you posted. Most non-union shops really don't care much about anything else unless your behavior is affecting someone else's productivity. In a union shop, other things take precedence. That is the difference. I don't find that to be true at all, and I can't help wondering if it's time for administrative workers to start unionizing. I find that most private-sector non-union employers do absurd, insulting, unfair, and often illegal things to their employees just because they can and it makes them feel good. I'm talking about piddly, personal, even sadistic stuff they'd never dare attempt if their administrative staff was unionized. Also, society's increasing infatuation with "at will" and "independent contractor" employment is largely responsible for the current economic collapse. The margin between long-term financial commitments and zero-commitment employers is the amount of doom your society is cooking up for itself. These two things must balance out. All this and I'm still ambivalent on unions. But the idea that they're "killing us" is one I can't condone. There's a strong case to be made that their downfall took us along with it. It depends on whether you work in an industry (even the service sector-e.g. law firms) that can quantitatively measure individual worker productivity. If individual productivity can be measured, the union is counterproductive for labor if collective bargaining for wages. Look at Lincon Electric in Cleveland. Happy workers getting paid piece work. I have either been self-employed or an independent contractor for over 20 years. I love it and would hate to be compensated on anything other than a productivity based scale.

Cheap shot. At the end of the day you will be judged on your productivity first-whether or not you posted. Most non-union shops really don't care much about anything else unless your behavior is affecting someone else's productivity. In a union shop, other things take precedence. That is the difference.

No one is saying that organized labor is bad we are merely suggesting that the way some unions are run today (e.g. UAW) is counter productive to the cause of organized labor. I suspect that most employers would welcome a well run, rational union- only one party to deal with to negotiate, work conditions, benefits, etc.

"The safety issues were eventually taken over by the worker's comp lawsuit culture. When lawyers took over that realm, unions were left with less reason to exist. " Good Point. Also OSHA and Dept. of Labor and Industries took over a lot of union functions leaving only wages to argue about.

I think unions started to go off the rails when they began collective bargaining for wages. It makes sense that all workers should be treated alike when it comes to safety, working conditions, hours, benefits, etc. but as soon as we decouple wages from individual productivity a company will eventually be unable to compete in a free market against those who have not done so.