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Yeah, it'll be interesting to see what they do with that. It will certainly be accessible - the walkway lets out across Adams Crossing from the site we're talking about - on the picture you gave us above, you can see the steps cut thru the "U" in Columbia Parkway and the "R" in "Ramp to Columbia Parkway". In fact, here's a picture from last summer, looking across the bridge over Columbia Parkway from the base of the Celestial Street Steps - you can see the steps cut left then turn into the woods - the building to the right is the Firehouse, and at the extreme right is Adams Place - the site you suggested would be dead ahead in this shot: ...but here's a picture of the area where the steps let out - Mt. Adams is to my right, Adams Place dead ahead, the proposed site to the left, the road I'm on is Adams Crossing, and the arrow indicates the way the path from the steps comes down to meet Adams Crossing, if I remembered correctly: You have to think they'll do something about that, make it an inviting pedestrian path...

That looks great to me - a great spot, the infrastructure can handle it, brings folks downtown, loads of property taxes...happy yay!

I'm with jhansbau here - I'm generally positive on this stuff, regardless of which side of the river it's on. The fact that Newport and Covington are more nimble in getting things done isn't really very remarkable, considering how much smaller and how much less bureaucracy I imagine there is there. Regionalism is great for some things, no doubt, but there are some things that having many different jurisdictions in an area does bring you - you don't have all your eggs in one municipal basket.

looking at the map, i'd say it looks more like an intersection than a square. similiar to troy's situation. for now i'll leave it without a listing but unless you really can bring up a case for square, it'll be intersection I don't have any pictures, and can't find any online in a decent little google-fest, but the area inside the traffic circle is fairly large, with a beautiful gazebo. Every Memorial Day the band marches up a big-ass hill to the square, where someone reads the Gettysburg address - the band, the crowd and the dignitaries all fit in the circle. The Sharon Center Public Square Historic District is 60 acres, comprising the square, six buildings and one structure (the gazebo, I assume). It's definitely the heart of the town, with administration buildings around the outside of the square (I think there's a fire department and the admin building around it, along with a church or two, a furniture store, and I'm not sure what else). I'll see if I can scare up some pictures somewhere, but it's definitely much more than just an intersection... Not sure what happened with the Litchfield link (works for me) - it's west of Medina, right at 18 and 83 - but that is probably more of an intersection - I think the circle's pretty tight, and just has a big memorial in the center of it, if memory serves...

I'd put the center of Brunswick at 42 and 303 (and thus an intersection), not at the 71 exit ramp - but I guess this thread, "Brunstucky gets a downtown", would argue against me. And for Euclid, I'd suggest just a main street - E 222nd, which has the whole municipal complex on along the east side of the street. I'm not sure if villages qualify for the list, but Sharon Center has a beautiful town square, which is actually a traffic circle. Same thing in Litchfield.

I've definitely heard "please" a lot, from young and old folks, from west siders and east siders...maybe not daily, but often. Jake, I bet the reason you rarely heard it is because you probably speak far to clearly! I do enjoy the "please" thing, but one that's even more interesting to me has been "do what?" in place of "excuse me". I've run across at least three people who use that habitually when they don't understand you, and I know two of them grew up in Kentucky - one near Manchester, and I don't remember where the other was from, and never knew where the third was from. Anyone else run across this?

I'm trying to figure out exactly where this is supposed to be...Twain's Point starts at Bains and Eastern (er...I mean "Riverside")...so this will sit west of that, at Bains and Riverside? Or further west, over by the old firehouse (picture from the auditor's site): ...and when they say the project extends all the way to Kemper Ave (I assume they mean "Kemper Lane"), does it include this property right at Riverside and Kemper (1542 Riverside)? The auditor says that's owned by the city...

I've never understood this proposal...someone pays the tax bill, right? Someone gets checks from rentors, right? Then someone can be served with subpoenas and summonses. Or just hire a skip tracer for $30K/year to track folks down for service, then process these through the courts. Hell, serve them by publication if you have to. Then you get judgements, liens on the properties, and sell the places at auction. Alternatively, you can create a new bureaucracy, force the 98%+ of landlords who are good citizens and add value to the city, to jump through yet another hoop, while accomplishing just about nothing - anyone think the folks whom you can't contact about their building code violations will be contactable regarding their contact information? I suspect a building code violation is a much graver offence than a paperwork snafu...

Do you have a link for this article?

I just drove past a Walgreen's at Front and Bagley in Berea tonight - it's where the UDF used to be. There's parking between the street and the building, but that was there when it was a UDF. It did blend in with the neighborhood better than the UDF did, though - it's all brick on the outside, actually fit in quite nicely. If they did something like this in Northside, with parking around the back, I wouldn't have any objections to it.

I had no problem going from a Browns fan to an anti-Browns guy when the team left. I moved to Cincinnati in January, 1997, so I was there for all of the horse shit - "diminished skills" and "I had no choice" - but not there for bringing the team back and all that excitement. Of course, I never picked up a corresponding love of the Bengals - I'm more anti-NFL generally. But to me, the Reds/Indians "rivalry" is just nonsense. There's no history between the teams - I don't believe they ever played each other outside of exhibition games prior to 1997. Aside from that, there's the Ray Fosse/Pete Rose incident in 1970, a couple interleague series, and that's about it. Cleveland has more of a rivalry with Kansas City than they do with the Reds. I slid into Reds fandom pretty easily - by 1999 I was in love with both teams, and since then, I just try to look away when they play each other.

A Walgreens is one thing - but a Walgreens set back from the street by a large parking lot is a wholly different thing.

What about at the circle where East Blvd meets MLK meets 105th meet Mt. Sinai...that thing is a nightmare...

Is that Big Egg thing still open?

Well, that's a great spot - I'd think they'll sell the hell out of those. Walk to that park with the unmaintained sculpture, walk to that Indian place up on Erie, pretty easy highway access, nice neighborhood...it'll be interesting to see rowhouses in Oakley, though - I can't think of any offhand.

I resent that! I may be a little weird, but I'm not unstable! And who are you to say I don't meet your standards? (Just kidding)

OK, pardon my ignorance here, but what the hell is NoLa? Northern Louisiana? North LA? I'm tryin', I'm just not connecting...New Orleans, Louisana? North Ozark-Ladened Arkansas?

Ever gotten off Cross County at Galbraith/Winton? That half mile stretch of Galbraith is exactly like that - ruts that guide your car like it was light rail...horrible...maybe they've fixed that now.

Boy, is that the truth. They have an incredible view from the sidewalk on the Gilbert side of the museum - you can see right across the basin to Price Hill, with OTR and Mt. Auburn and everything, but the only place I've ever seen it is from the sidewalk. There may be such views from inside the museum somewhere, but I've never seen them.

Regarding their use of exhibit space, I enjoyed the Cincinnati Wing, but it seemed to me like it used way more space than necessary. That's probably anathema, but my taste runs less towards furniture and more towards non-functional art - sculpture and paintings and photos and such. Given how little of their permanent collection gets displayed, I'd have preferred if they'd have maybe concentrated the best Cincinnati stuff into the space to the northwest of the main corridor, and left the rooms to the southeast for other exhibits. I think there's a place for 2nd tier art, since it's part of the local history - but when I go to the Art Museum, I'm more interested in seeing the greatest art available than I am in seeing local art. When the two combine, like in Rookwood pieces, that's wonderful - but I'd rather see a display of Arabic Calligraphy than another desk or local interest painting.

Er...before this gets utterly out of hand, can we all agree that we all like seeing lots of people in museums, we'd all like those people to behave respectfully, some of us have a higher standard of decorum than others, and go back to talking about their use of exhibit space?

I think I edge a bit more towards Cincinnatus on this one. Due to the amazing generousity of the Rosenthals, admission to the art museum is now free - and that's a beautiful thing. But the art museum is a different space than the Twin Lakes are. Taking the brats to the art museum is a wonderful thing, and I'm with grasscat - I'm very glad I was dragged to them when I was a brat. But when I got dragged there, I got to behave as an adult. Inviting folks to develop an appreciation of fine art doesn't mean you have to install a swingset and cash bar - you can have a required level of decorum and be open to everyone. In fact, I would definitely argue that the kid who's running around with his brother is getting very little exposure to art - if he's not paying attention, then he might as well not be there. I hope the choice isn't truly between screaming brats and baudy gangs on one hand, and old blue-hairs and clove-smoking art students on the other - I think we're all talking about the extremes. But some places should err on the side of the baudy - the guy at the ballpark keeping score who gets annoyed when someone buys a beer down the row from him because he has to pass it - screw you, buddy, it's place to drink and have fun. But the art museum - please, let everyone in, but make them behave when they're there.

That's a shame...he was a pretty important president. Roosevelt may have brought it to its fruition, but McKinley was the first Imperial President...last president who served in the Civil War, former governor of Ohio, and considered the nicest man ever to be president...at least the other sites associated with him are cool looking - the tomb is impressive, and the Saxton House looks gorgeous.

So the National McKinley Birthplace Memorial is not incorporated with the birth house...

Which president is that?