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I'm assuming they just took the college populations from the 2000 census and didn't reflect changes over the last couple of years. Dude, you missed my point. I said I'm not saying this was what was done. I'm saying two different methods, both 100% accurate, can have different results, based on differing definitions, that's all.

^I think the point on it not being Census estimates is more that different methodologies may have been employed. Students is a great example - if one method accounts for them and another method doesn't, you can drop 35K residents from the city just with the wave of a pen. I'm not saying that's what happened here - just that varying methods can vary massively in its results, without any real changes having occurred. Which is why using consistent methods, and then looking at changes in those methods over time, is very useful - but looking at Census-Approved-Method A from 2000, then Census-Approved-Method B from 2004, may well lead to huge differences in numbers, even if nothing about the population changed at all. And I don't know if we've figured out the answer to that yet. I know I haven't dug in enough to be able to say...

That golden light near sunset is so gorgeous...very nicely done!

If you ask 80 people that question, you'll get 80 different answers. And none of them will have the whole truth, whatever their protestations to the contrary.

This year I finally made it to the Memorial Day ceremony at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in Eden Park...here's some pictures from the service. The 21 gun salute: The Cincinnati Bearcat Band played well. And here's a video of the flag raising: http://www.robertethan.com/Videos/MemorialDayFlagRaising20060529.wmv It was a very nice service...not much I can add to it...

Cool - thank you! I've started working (very, very slowly) on a gallery of as many of Cincinnati's War Memorials as possible...actually, this thread discusses the locations of various memorials - maybe you can add to the list!

Wow - I didn't realize this project was that far north...for some reason I'd been picturing it in my head as around Virginia between Colerain and Chase...I guess that's already plenty built out, so I'm not sure what the hell I was thinking... Thanks for the great summary - definitely something to keep an eye on. Hopefully this will go in right and anchor that side of Northside...

Where is that Mohawk memorial actually at?

Holy Living Ass: At first I thought, maybe that's intended to be the back of the house - but, with a driveway? And even if it were, who the wants wants any angle of their house to look like that? Good Lord...

Where is the Mohawk Honor Roll? (Wonderful thread yet again, as always! You cracker.)

Thank you very much...very nice pictures, very impressive place.

A while ago I read the minutes of the Col Twp community council meeting and it said there was some interest in the former Frank's Nursery site on Highland as potentially becoming office space. Wow, I'd sure hate to work in that space - traffic would be appalling...

I do love the idea of a summer break, but you've gotta wonder just how much opportunity is lost by taking those three months off academically. I know how much taking a couple weeks away from our language class really stunts progress - I can't imagine how much we'd have to relearn with three months away. I'd think the state would want to fund this just to get real world data for any future efforts to go to year 'round schooling...

Is there any chance that the site prep they do for Cirque du Soleil will be done with Tall Stacks viewing in mind? That's the first weekend in October, and it would be very cool if that terrain were more than just a mud pit so folks could watch the ships from that space...

In fact, most oil companies are heavily involved in alternative energy research. Yeah, from what I've read, the earliest adopters of large-scale solar energy were off-shore oil rigs. They used to helicopter humongous batteries in and, according to what they were supposed to do, helicoptered off, but often they just dumped the used ones into the ocean. That is, until a particularly low tide met up with a photographer, and the tremendous pile of dead barrel-sized batteries was revealed. Following the hubbub, they moved quickly to solar, since it was far, far cheaper than crating batteries back and forth...

PigBoy - when I saw Mr. Vice-Mayor at dinner a week or so ago, he said yes, Mehring was going to arch the opposite way from how it arches now - arching away from the river.

Ah ha, posted pre-Pigboy post... So, not being familiar with all of these surveys vs. estimates shedules and such, is there any chance that the same methodology used for these 2004 figures were employed in 2000, such that we might compare the 2000 figures to the census data and get a feel for possible errors? I'm guessing that the surveys were samplings, and employed in modifying 2000 data, not in substituting for it...but I certainly don't know!

^^A valiant attempt! Probably in vain, though... Well, anyone have any ideas on control data to which we might compare these figures? Like, some city-provided data to measure vacancies, see if they've truly jumped 52% in four years? BTW, thanks for the walk-through, 8th & State - that quantifies stuff I was guessing at, and shows both where the discussion was accurate and where it wasn't...by the way, when I looked at people per unit data, it didn't come very close to aligning with the Census's people per unit figures - I thought maybe group housing was throwing that off? You have any theories?

Sweet Fuck - how much shit can they jam in there? I mean, that's cool, whatever, let's get 'er done, but Holy Christ Almighty, that seems pretty feature-intensive...

Well, dilution of people-per-household can help account for the population drop, though such attrition isn't going to cause a 10% drop in just four years; and 10K new vacancies in Cincinnati has nothing to do with that dilution, and is a surprising number. As I said before, that doesn't make it wrong - just surprising. Oh, and keep in mind, life expectancy has jumped dramatically since 1955. I think the points on lowering density are well-taken and valid, but folks are living a whole lot longer than then. I'm sure it doesn't begin to make up for fewer births, doesn't even begin to make up for it, but it is a separate factor. And as C-Dawg points out, more widows and widowers only exacerbates the lowering density.

Yeah, it is a pretty tremendous opportunity. But I'm sure it's a question of immediate economics. Why built a done of feature-intensive living spaces that will sell cheap when you can build fewer that sell really expensively. I saw a billboard for "loft condo's" in Oakley starting at $740K...insane, but it probably makes more sense for the developer, even if it makes less sense for the community...alas. Which, by the way, is part of the reason places like Madisonville, with its extensive smaller single-family housing stock is such an asset...there are still options for most of us to buy an affordable place, fix it up a bit, and either stay somewhere nice or move on to another place...hard to do that when the bottom line is three quarters of a million dollars - a coat of paint and refinishing the floors only goes so far...

^I don't think this addresses your point, but Back Bay in Boston is just about the most segregated neighborhood in the city - it's 85% white in a city that's less than half white. (http://www.curp.neu.edu/sitearchive/spotlight.asp?id=1430) I think the main point here is, the representatives of the people here are City Council and the County Commission. The Banks Working Group is simply an advisory board. Council and the Commission ought not allow racism into their decision-making process; the jobs created in construction should follow state, county and city standards for minority inclusion; and the shape development takes should serve all the various constituencies. And that's what Council and the Commission is for. If they're incapable of doing that job, we shouldn't have elected them as our representatives.

^Yeah, I can be patient. I'd love to have it done tomorrow (hence my "build it now!" post), but I'm planning to be in Cincinnati for another forty or fifty years - I can wait a couple more to have this done right. Assuming, of course, that those are two years of activity - that activity can be doing studies and working out financing and finalizing plans - but if it's two years of dormancy, that's just more of the same...

Nicely done! Yeah, deer are everywhere...hell, I'm in Walnut Hills, close enough to walk to Reds games, and I've had deer in my yard too. Even had a wild turkey cluck its way through the yard, down the driveway, across the street and on down the road!

OK, build it now! I'm ready for such a park! Go ahead, you folks can start a-building away now, you have my leave!