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I always thought W150 and Puritas would be a good place for TOD. It is near the airport, near National City, is in a part of the city that still has some life, is near travel related business and has industry nearby. It wouldn't have to be mostly residential right off the bat. It could be commercial first with residential added around it. W25th/Lorain cries out for TOD (hey how about a tunnel to the market) I also thought W117Madison would attract TOD, but it hasn't. I am thinking mid rise apartments I wonder if TOD is hard to start but grows exponentially. To do it, you need to have the transit, the people to ride it, and reasons for them to ride it. When you start creating opportunites for people to live around and ride transit and for business to locate near these transit hubs and feed off the increased use of that transit, then people could use transit for a wide range of activities and the whole TOD "network/infrastructure" would grow faster and faster.

The new buses (photos above) are definitely attractive. The overhead wires are gone from Euclid Avenue. I'm ready to ride!

I would have felt better if Continental had axed some of the "expansion" routes and continued operating others. This feels more like a strategy change, beyond purely the cost of oil. Hopkins expansion may be heading for the abandoned projects section. I hope I'm wrong.

Didn't we have street cars and trackless electric trolleys at one time? Bet ya wish ya had em now! :lol: My company is doing its thing for the cause. Four of the eight people on my team work at home. That saves gas, money, and the overcrowded bus ride. See y'all soon. I have to catch the interurban :wave:

The "yanked" regional flights from the expansion have provided feed to augment CLE's mainline services and were also intended to relieve Newark. Maybe with the capacity cuts, Newark does not need as much relief. Also, from the statistics, it looked like Cleveland "fared" the worst (ouch/pun) losing 13 percent of its capacity, most of which was the 10% added in the expansion and a "wee bit more". It makes me wonder how the new regional services from the expansion were actually doing and to what degree the marketing incentive program announced months ago applied to any of these flights. What hurts me is the destination count. I will have lost my long awaited Ottawa nonstop, barely having had the chance to use it. And, this is only the first shoe to drop.

^ I hope they adjust!

KJP, my mom lives in Ottawa and I go there often. The area you mention, parallel to Scott St, where the Transitway is cut into a trench (there you can see that Ottawa is not "bedrockly challenged" like Cleveland) is an old railroad right of way The government buildings and apartments there and along the Ottawa River Parkway, mostly predate the Transitway, so I am not sure I would call them TOD. One of my favorite spots on the Transitway is where it dives under a platform adjoining the St Laurent mall on the east side. It is like a real "subway" station, except that it is buses and not rail. The station connects directly to the mall's lower level. Above it is what we might call a transit station where many bus lines come together for transfers. Ottawa makes great use of its traditional indoor malls as transit hubs. In my years of going there, I have made much use of OCTranspo, the bus system. It really works and can effectively get you places. They have many articulated buses on the mainlines and use a POP fare system. If you were there, you might have enjoyed what they call The O-Train which travels against the grain of the bus system in another old railroad trench. This abandoned track actually goes over the Ottawa River into Gatineau and goes by the Casino, maybe a transit project for another day. The "suburban" development in Ottawa is somewhat denser than in Cleveland's suburbs, which helps retain transit's effectiveness. Perhaps we could call it "Sprawl Lite". They do have a green belt around the city which cannot be developed but, as you might expect, development has jumped over it and has continued in places like Kanata, eh? Oh, I bet I better mention Euclid Corridor, lol, since that is the current topic.

Maybe we need the great American drive-in, kinda like the smoke out.

Thanks for the update, Seicer. I will use that bridge going to Nelsonville from Cleveland as an alternative to the Columbus route.

I love the cold feel of granite

Thanks for the pic's. I see they are doing the sidewalks east of E 107th. What is the fate of the Euclid Ave pavement there? Is it going to be resurfaced as it has been west of E107th?

I flew from Cleveland to Orlando today via BWI. Hopkins looked a bit more alive/colorful with more "media" on the walls. I liked that. Now, bring on the airmall. Everyone was friendly, even the security guys. BWI, apart from the Southwest area and and a few Airtran flights, was a tomb.

Hey, did the mayor of Paris and a bevy of Parisian business leaders come to Cleveland on the first nonstop (May 23rd)? If not, how could they pass on an opportunity like that? :wink:

What we need are reliable electric cars. They would preserve our mobility, reduce air pollution, and leave fossil fuel for buses, airplanes, and long distance trucks

Very simply, its time for a good electric car. Leave the fossil fuel for the airplanes and long distance trucks. We keep our mobility, breathe cleaner air, and stop hemorrhaging money.

It's not so much the incline, but the conditions of the soil underneath - Cleveland has mostly glacial shale (awful for building) below street level, Pittsburgh has a mix of igneous rock, coal and shale. And yep, sir2gees makes a pretty accurate assessment. Curses, "soiled" (foiled) again. :wink: Irishtown bend could be a fascinating location for homes and a restaurant or two. I am imagining terraced residences climbing the hill with spectacular views and maybe some cafes where you can sit and watch the boats go by (I miss Max and Erma's and Watermark's patios in the flats). No harm in dreaming :-D

Parts of Pittsburgh are so hilly, I used to joke that the typical Pittsburgh residential lot would be considered unbuildable in Cleveland. Ironically, Ohio City has a hill going down to the river, but that slope is apparently unbuildable without expensive modifications. Go figure.

Please don't knock the Rock, lol Downtown Rocky River from the river to Beachcliff is kind of a cool place to stroll. That large pinkish condo complex and the bridge stub with the office building on it are visually interesting (to me at least). In Ohio City, I thought there was a plan (related to CMHA) to humanize W25th St and extend the neighborhood to the Cuyahoga. The views would have to be incredible from residences on the Irishtown bend. Sadly the soil was not cooperative. I think that area would have stroll potential.

I have a question. There was a website called Downtownclevelandbuildingprojects.com which had not been updated for a few years. Anyone know anything about what happened to it? Has it been absorbed into urbanohio? I tried to search UO but did not get any hits. It was a rather good site.

Straphanger, I agree 100%. Most cities have some neighborhoods that escaped urban devastation like Squirrel Hill did. Cleveland has been less fortunate, (although there is always West Park), which could partially explain our habit of hanging at the top of the poverty ranking. For W. 25th + Lorain to be a mecca for street life, it has to have a good mix of draws, and people have to feel comfortable going there, when they have many other options to choose from. The times I have been to the WS Market on Saturdays during the day, there does appear to be life in that pocket park across the street. I love the flan at the Leolai Bakery.

Is it beveled, or are my eyes playing tricks? If so, it could be nicknamed the glass chisel. I can't tell if that is a right angle at W Roadway and Superior. The front window wall reminds me of the uck Federal Building at 9th and Lakeside. I was hoping for a Public Square framing, taller building myself, but hey, I guess its not to be.

McCle, from what I have seen, the new lights ( and I am a street light junky) are not as bright as the sodium vapor bulbs they are replacing. I do like the median lighting and I hope it goes from Public Square to Playhouse Square. We were eating at Bricco Saturday night before last after the Broadway Show, looking out on the (deserted) scene (except for valets), between E14 and E17 wondering how it would be when the corridor project is completed. Most people park in the garages and bolt after the show is over but a few of us stay down a while. I considered whether the Health Line would be useful to go to an evening show and concluded probably not for me, but for people living in the corridor, it would work if the schedules supported that.

I have used the Sandusky - Leamington ferry twice (not sure it is still operating). Both days were gorgeous and it was a wonderful ride. I would definitely use a Cleveland - Port Stanley, although I am not sure why Cleveland has to be tied specifically to Port Stanley. It is a picturesque town with a cute beach not far from St Thomas and London. PS don't forget a covered walkway from the ferry terminal to a Waterfront Line Station.

Prismatic yet underwhelming

^ Nothing like the agonizing groan after a really bad pun, LOL