MoonlightOhio

The whole idea of a casino is to provide a place for people to gamble. There's no law that states they must be gaudy meccas of tastelessness.

Oh, my bad. The latest one Amazon seems to carry is dated 1990, and it's a hardcover. Sorry, man.

Someone open up a decent beer bar, please.

Most casinos look like casinos. Maybe if the city ever did approve one, they could have an actual, honest-to-god architect design it.

Site Planning. I'm still looking for the second one...

That's exactly what I was thinking. I don't know what the people or the local economy are like, but the buildings are gorgeous. This set actually does the opposite of what it set out to do. I want to visit East Liverpool. :)

^ There's a joke in there somewhere.

That's one of my concerns with putting one on Broadway Commons.

Making that post without stating exactly what your job is, is useless.

There was one instance when some Mormons rang my friend's doorbell. I had stayed the night and when morning came, I was still a bit tipsy. Anyway, my friend lets them in as it he was expecting them. I shuffle out of the bedroom and plop down in a chair across from the two Mormons who have taken a seat on the couch. Rubbing my eyes, I think I managed out a, "Hey," not knowing who they were or why they were there. My friend calls out from the kitchen, asking if he can pour anyone some coffee. They kindly decline and my friend comes back into the room, takes a seat and sip of his coffe and looks right at them with a kind and sincere smile. "So. What do you two gentlemen know about the Dark Lord Satan?" They stood up in unison and made for the door. :lol:

^ That doesn't stop them.

WOW.

Yeah, you're probably right. People losing their jobs, health insurance and overall ability to provide for their families and keep a roof over their heads is a laugh riot. :roll: I would prefer to make a vote that will benefit the entire state of 11 million people in the long run at the expense of a town of 12,000 people rather than help 12,000 people at the expense of 11 million Ohians. (meaning the proposal was not nearly as good as a state casino proposal could be imo) How would that have been "at the expense of 11 million Ohians"? Are you referring to the misinformation about how it woud have limited other casinos to come into the state? I, and many others who have invested and continue to invest around this area would like to see a more productive use for Broadway Commons than a parking lot. The impact of the casino will be felt in areas like Pendleton, Main St., the Quarter and beyond breathing new life into now vacant properties such as the Diner, Neon's, etc... which will also both employ and pay taxes, much unlike today. The casino itself is not the silver bullet, but it, combined with an expanded convention center, two new stadiums, a revitalized fountain square, etc all lend to a stronger downtown in Cincinnati. A casino in our portfolio gives us an advantage over most other casinos outside of Ohio as most are not seated in a downtown area therefor only draw people to the venue for 1 reason. We are not monolitic in our offerings like a Lawrenceburg is--or a Wilmington would have been. If you stand against it for moral reasons then that is one thing, but to say it will not have a positive impact on business in and around downtown is ignoring reality. I am investing in a business right now that will not depend on the casino, but would be positively impacted if and when construction starts and I know for a fact, I am not the only one with investment money who is keeping a close eye on November. Whoa, I never said a casino wouldn't have a positive impact on the surrounding areas. Let's not put words in mouths, mkay? What I said was that I don't think a casino on Broadway Commons is the best place for it. I'll add to that, that I think we can better use of BC. No one wants to see it remain a parking lot, I assure you.

Tucker's! Those Stratford Heights apartments are a travesty, though. I really like 12 and 17.

Yeah, that's not gonna happen.

What's stopping you?

^ I was thinking the same thing. That's your first red flag.

I guess so. When the people literally have the power to help save a small town without putting forth any more effort than coloring in a circle, and choose not to, I consider that to be criminal.

I actually wouldn't be very happy if a casino plopped down on Broadway Commons. I just don't think it's the best location for one. In my opinion, a riverboat casino would be much more conducive to the city's needs. Many people that voted against the casino issue the last time did so because they felt the plan was a very poor one that would not allow for gambling in other parts of the state. I don't remember anyone saying that people in Wilmington do not deserve jobs. That's definitely the message those voters sent. DHL employed so many of those people, and after those jobs vanished, for the rest of Ohio to strike down a casino was criminal. Everyone that voted "No" ought to be ashamed of themselves. The plan wasn't perfect, but it wasn't what the groups buying up ad space in opposition to it said it was, either. Ohio needed (and still needs) jobs NOW.

If Cincinnati approved a riverboat casino or two to dock on the Ohio River, our financial problems would be solved. This is fact.

AGREED.

cite sources please. the drain on those casinos has done more harm than good. Detroit isn't experiencing an uptick in people visiting. I visited Detroit and the casinos and was surprised at the crowd. I didn't visit for the casinos by any means, and I didn't even enter them, but i hung out downtown and had dinner at a restaurant that wouldn't have been there if the casino's hadn't been built. Without the casinos downtown Detroit would have been empty. It was essentially the only place any people were at all. Nothing bad about the crowd, and the whole district was clearly bringing in money that would have otherwise gone to the suburbs. That's crazy talk. You must not have been looking very hard, because everyone knows that the only kind of people casinos attract are pickpockets and prostitutes. :roll:

Decent apartments in downtown Cincy are much, much more expensive than Toledo, apparently.

Everyone in Ohio that voted "No" on the casino issue last election, and will continue to vote "No" on future casino issues needs to go to Wilmington and tell everyone there that they don't deserve jobs.

Casinos have to built, first and foremost, and that means jobs right there. They also have to be staffed, which means more jobs. Where casinos go, hotels and restaraunts follow, which brings in even more jobs. Casinos also have to pay taxes, which, goes back to the state. For anyone who's on the fence about whether or not they're a good idea, or afraid that they'll bring in more crime or whatever, look at Lawrenceburg and the surrounding area from before the casinos and look at it now. But we can't have that here. No, gambling's a sin! That must be why it's so prevalent at Catholic festivals. :roll: