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Great photos!!

West Hill, off Copley Road should not be visited after dark and neither should the West Valley or Summit Lake Area in South Akron.

Any of you gals interested in an old man of 46, soon to be 47 in April? The good thing is that I'm older than I look and can still dance... I'm still silly enough to have fun with, too.

I think, overall, Jake is the best quarterback. The interception problem needs to be diagnosed. I say bring in someone to work with him. It's either he needs to work harder watching films before the games or that he needs discipline on simply taking the sack or throwing it away if nothing is there. Whatever it is, it is trainable. Other than interceptions, he is the best QB the Browns have had in a very, very long time!

Do you have a reason for doubting this validity of this report or are you just Nay-Saying becaus you are Republican? Just asking...

Uastudent12: I don't care for Pink either. I currently live in Tampa and they have projects that are painted pink. I feel like throwing up everytime I ride by them. However, I think NE Ohio could use some color. Just not pink!

You are right. My mistake. It use to be Summit, Portage and Medina Counties. But now it's Summit and Portage. Also, Portage County is a lot smaller that I thought it was. In 2000, it was listed at 152,061 people. I think that it is actually ridiculous to remove Medina as part of Akron and make it part of Cleveland, because when it was included with Akron, Montrose, Bath and Copley consisted of a big Horse Farm and Montrose Theater, where my Mother would set up on Sundays. They had a Flea Market. There was nothing else out there. Now, Akron stretches West in a major way, through Fairlawn, Copley, Bath and Montrose, which is, arguably, the busiest Business District in NE Ohio. Metropolitan Akron's West Side actually connects with Medina City Limits. Cleveland and Medina City Limits are separated by large sections of nothingness and a few rural Housing Subdivisions and very small Business Districts, not to mention a very large distance. For one reason or another; I suspect Politics, Cleveland has managed to get credit for Akron's Suburbs. Cleveland Residents have always taken credit for Akron's Suburbs. Richfield, for example, is clearly an Akron Suburb, just outside of Fairlawn, Bath, Copley and Montrose, inside Summit County. However, because the Cavs played there, it has always been associated with Cleveland, although it's nowhere near Cleveland. Twinsburg and Macedonia are also just outside of Stow, Hudson and Kent, inside of Summit County, yet, are associated with Cleveland; by Clevelanders. Of-course, statistically, they are part of Akron, but when you talk to Clevelanders, they consider these areas part of Cleveland. It is correct; Akron gets very little credit and respect from Cleveland. Just listen to tedolph as he finds a way to belittle Akron, as he tries to make it sound like a compliment. Imagine your a small Running Back on a Football Team. You hold your own, but everybody keeps calling you that little guy. Akron has no desire to be huge, but doesn't like being referred to as that little insignificant town, either. How about just calling Akron by it's name tedolph and not adding adjectives that diminishes it's value and importance? That's what upsets me and many people who have experienced life in Akron, which has it's perks. As far as how little Akron is..... it seems to be catching up with Cleveland mighty quick; as Cleveland continues to bleed people, at an alarming pace. From 900,000 people, down to 400,000. At the current rate of bloodshed, it will be the size of Akron before too long, so I recommend remaining humble. Akrons' Population will grow before Clevelands' does, because Akron is doing better Economically. I suspect it is growing now, but the growth hasn't hit the record books, yet. Cleveland needs to embrace Akron, the way Akron has always embraced Cleveland. Here is a link that offers many of the attractions in Akron, that Clevelanders are unaware of: http://www.ci.akron.oh.us/attract.html

Yeah, my data was old. The Akron Area, alone, use to have 993,000 people. But that was when they included Portage County, which they don't appear to be including, anymore. I don't know why, though; Kent and Ravenna are definitely Akron Suburbs. So that's 300,000 people that aren't included in the current estimates. Probably more, by now. When you include Portage County, the way they use to, that puts the Akron Area at or above 1,000,000 people. That's no Chicago or Houston, but it's not the hick town some Clevelanders like to make it out to be. Akron Metropolitan Area: 1960: 993,000 (Summit, Portage and Medina Counties) 2000: 699,935 (Summit and Medina counties) 2000: Cleveland-Akron-Elyria Metropolitan Area: 2,945,831 (14th Largest) Actually, I believe Greater Akron has about 700,000 and the Canton-Massillon MSA has about 400,000. So 1.1 million is still pretty respectable.

The hatred (competition or rivalry) usually comes from the smaller city. They are the ones who are jealous and want to prove they are equal to the big kids. This is the reason for Lebrons comments. Akron isn't even on the radar for someone from Cleveland, its just a local small town. I've experienced this living in Cincinnati for 40 years. They so want to be Cleveland! I disagree. You can't judge a whole city on the voice of one man. I have spent about equal time out of my life in both cities. Akron has been pushing for Regionalism in NE. Ohio for many years and it has been Cleveland who has been resisting this effort. I rarely here Akronites say anything bad about Cleveland. They route for Cleveland Sports Teams, attend their events and enjoy the proximity to Cleveland. On the other hand, I continually hear comments like yours from Clevelanders. They are always calling Akron small and insulting them. Akron is big little city, mostly because it is a part of a rather large Metropolitan Area. Last I heard; Akron-Canton Area had 1.6 million people. It is no Cleveland and they have no desire to be. But I grow weary of Clevelanders putting Akron down as some small hick town, when it is not. They have plenty to offer: The Akron Art Museum is recognized around the world. It has transformed from The Rubber Capital to The Polymer Capital and their three major hospitals are recognized around the world for their Research and Development. Akron Children's has the number one Burn Unit in the world and was the first to grow Human Skin. They have EJ Thomas Hall, The National Inventors Hall of Fame, Cuyahoga Valley National Recreation Area, Firestone Country Club, The Portage Lakes, The Ohio Canal, Montrose, Chapel Hill and Downtown Akron has become a growing Entertainment District. They have concerts Downtown every weekend and live Jazz many days at lunch. It is generally 100 times cleaner and nicer than Cleveland, has a lower crime rate and better schools. There are many people who come from around the world to participate in the AAA Convention, The Soap Box Derby, The Firestone Invitational, The Lebron Bikeathon and Marathon and The Lebron James Basketball Tournament. Akron U and Kent State are both respected colleges and are both growing at a rapid rate. One of Akron's Promotional Videos: Again, I love Cleveland and Akron both, but statements like you just made is an indication of where the animosity, if any, is coming from. How about not putting Akron down and showing them some of the love they show Cleveland?

As far as hotel space; the last time they were talking about hosting something major like this in Cleveland, I forget if it was a Political Convention or the Olympics, they included Akron Area Hotels. If they did, it would add at-least another 5 high quality hotels and a host of other mediocre motels. Not everyone who comes to town will be 'Big Wigs'; many who come to town will be happy with rooms that are 35 miles or less away. There will be shuttle services and people will be renting cars, etc. Some will be on a budget and enjoy the savings at the less prominent motels outside of the city.

OK, thanks! How do I tell if it has been locked? And I'm sorry, but I don't know what self-flagellation means. This is a new, big word for me. Please define...

It seems that everytime I join a conversation, I get removed from the topic or the topic disappears or my ability to post on that topic is removed. Why is that? I'm respectful, I stay on topic and add value to the conversations, which some may disagree with. What happend to The Tea Party Thread and why can't I post on The Obama Presidency anymore? Am I not welcome here or what's going on?

I think it could be an amazing area for small, daily Jazz or Blues Concerts, as well as a nice area for Lunch. Loc 3 is great for the bigger concerts, but this would be a great area for day to day hanging out.....

It looks like this is down North St., East of Howard St., going toward the new housing development that use to be Elizabeth Park Projects.

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