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It does not appear that circulation would allow for that.

The enquirer is desperate. They are trying every which avenue to try and get this project buried. Take a look at some of these letters the enquirer approves. These are all listed in order from most recent to older. No omissions. The order which you see is the exact order they are listed: "Bortz proves panel's point with rebuttal" (May 1st - Sharonville) "Streetcars not worth our money" (May 1st - Finneytown) "Why is council pushing unwanted streetcar?" (April 28 - Sycamore Township) "Motorized Trolley an option" (April 28 - Hyde Park) "Let trolley company provide trial run" (April 27 - Indian Hill) "Streetcar spending example of Irresponsible City Council" (April 27 - California OH) "Problems with streetcar proposal" (April 27 - Mt Washington) "How streetcars maneuvered during Flood" (April 26 - White Oak) "Who benefits from the streetcar?" (April 26 - Price Hill) "Fund transportation improvements privately" (April 22 - Sharonville) "Why not try a streetcar experiment?" (April 21 - Mt Lookout) "City dumped streetcars long ago, for good reason" (April 21 - Union Township) "Cincinnati can't afford a streetcar" (April 21 - Amelia) "Streetcar Magic and costs" (April 20 - West Chester) So from April 20th until the present, the enquirer has published 13 negative letters against the streetcar, with 1 that's neutral. Combine this with the rash of anti-Bortz articles and the timeframes/erasing of the Bortz rebuttal from last week, and one can see the desperation from the Enquirer. If we are hearing about potential good news, the enquirer is certainly hearing about it as well which means the next couple weeks they will continue try every which tactic to destroy the project and its supporters credibility. Get ready That is pretty disgusting.

A less confusing translation would be "the Fort Hunger Railway"

That's hot.

Love Lexington!

I'll think about forgiving you, but I make no promises.

This is absolutely ridiculous. The Enquirer is coming very close to outright lying about the details of this issue. They are treading close to slander. There is too much legal precedent on the side of Bortz, even if it were to come to that. Someone is using this in attempt to throw a temporary wrench into the streetcar approval.

That's what I posted. "Number one" refers to the order of the picture in my original post.

Bad is subjective. Maybe it was the wrong term to use. They don't impress me, how is that? They look like just about every new development I see popping up. Looks just like the Banks design, looks just like the new building on Calhoun, looks just like every new development down in Florida and out in California that I've recently seen. Do I think the Banks could have been better designed from an architectural point of view? Yes, but I am still pumped that the Banks is popping out of the ground and can't wait to go there and enjoy it. I'll also point out that I'm not an architecture so I could be way wrong, I'm just going by the eye test. also, just out of curiosity, what awards did those buildings win? Number one is Ratcliffe On The Green, Charlotte It was nominated for a best public space award from Project for Public Spaces Two is just the recent condo development in Mariemont Three is in fill in Over the Rhine, just completed Four is Atlantic Station in Atlanta It's won numerous awards, including NAHB, Aurora, EPA, etc Number five is Downtown Woodstock, Georgia 2006 Atlanta Regional Commission Development of Excellence Award 2008 Congress for the New Urbanism Charter Award

^ But you say they're "pretty bad." By any definition, they are not bad. By many definitions, they are award-winning. I'm not trying to pick a fight with you in particular. And I know this is going off-topic. But I think it's important because there should be a minimally informed intellectual realm in which we judge things. For example when I say The Banks is "bad," I don't make an offensive claim like that because I simply don't care for it. It's bad because it fails certain minimum standards like variety of facades and materials, articulation, and regional appropriateness. QCS on the other hand, isn't really bad, I imagine it's just not very sophisticated by some people's standards. No, I don't mean it has to be avant-garde. It's just very straightforward in how it achieved whatever the client wanted. "I want to be on the river!" "I want to be special and have a pretty top!" At its worst, you could say it's kind of an expensive glass clubhouse for the lucky neighborhood kids at Great American. Awkward gestures, it means well, but not even close to sublime. I think a good example of a corporate e-peen that achieves both ego and sublime design is Two Prudential Plaza in Chicago.

Looks like May 6 we could see some concepts.

^ I suppose I must accede to Dan. Some people really are never satisfied. Have you seen any of these in person, other than perhaps number 3? I have.

^ You mean Argentina? I hear they eat beef in their corn flakes.

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I'm satisfied by projects I see all the time. Here's five that are great:

LOL I think he's joking.

^ Yes but that's a broadly applicable ideal that you could use for just about anything. It just sounds good when it's your project. :-P

I also heard this morning that more buildings may have to come down.

--Whoops, I totally double-posted an article. UnusualFire what the hell are you doing up at 3AM on the Enquirer?-- I personally think his ethical standing is unclear, as there have been numerous precedents set for both staying on and for abstaining. The Enquirer, in its thinly veiled opposition to the project, clearly thinks he's in the wrong, or they wouldn't have "obtained" the information for this story and published it a year after it actually happened, and they certainly wouldn't have quoted Tom Luken more than Bortz himself in the article, even giving him the last word.

But of course nobody at the state level who pushes against transit funding ever has a vested interest in highway construction. That would be impossible to prove. A straw man argument, my apologies. :( But the hypocrisy was too tempting for me.

Street View link: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.111382,-84.515555&spn=0,0.00317&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=39.111382,-84.515555&panoid=4vyNHmgLu90CHZ3MPSh47A&cbp=12,261.75,,0,-7.34

I always thought that for a suburban development, it looked decent.

Unfortunately the architecture's looking really, really bad. As bad as I could have envisioned. I was hoping for at least Atlantic Station. The original red brick renderings from the 90's were so gorgeous. Cincinnati is NOT a beige brick city. Man, that really sucks. :(

Has someone posted the Pocahontas mash-up yet? There really are no original stories. The whole nerve plug thing was pretty original though. I liked that.

^Unfinished Symphony's an amazing piece of work. Been listening to a lot of the new Jonsi album lately. It's so unique.