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^Thanks. That's just silly and completely backwards in the era of moving towards greater government openness and the provision of information on websites. Is this a temporary thing or a permanent "improvement" from the Dept of City Planning?

Does city planning no longer post the packet of images for the meeting like they used to or is that I just can't find it? I'm on this page--but don't see it: http://clevelandohio.gov/CityofCleveland/Home/Government/CityAgencies/CityPlanningCommission/MeetingSchedules

I get your point, but I think its valid to remain here in the SHW thread as the discussion is specific to contracts for the SHW thread. Its part of the construction of the project. If a banking or parking matter arose about the building or project, we would not pull that out as a separate thread. I don't recommend that for this discussion item either.

I'm happy to educated here, but I'd guess there aren't many major black-owned business that are experienced with major skyscrapers. There will other roles (like civil, electrical, hvac enginnering etc that there are more black-owned firms) that will be needed as well, just not yet announced. I know for the Hough Library, CPL, hired a black-owned architecture firm, but what black firm has done giant projects? I know Robert P Madison Intl is a black-owned firm, they've never been lead on a giant project like this as far as I know. So, I'm open to learning---based on this list from SHW's press announcement, who are some major black-owned firms in the US for each of these categories (that people here would like to see given these roles for SHW)? • Pickard Chilton Architects, Inc. – Design architect for the global headquarters • HGA Architects and Engineers, LLC (HGA) – Base building architect • Vocon Partners, LLC – Interior architect • Welty Gilbane, a Joint Venture – Construction manager • Mark G. Anderson Consultants, Inc. (MGAC) – Project manager, project controls and owner’s representative • CBRE Inc. – Real estate and economic development advisor • Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease LLP – Legal and economic development counsel • Hanson Bridgett LLP – Legal counsel - don't know much about these guys • inSITE Advisory Group – Economic development advisor--I think this a WBE

Because the existing terminal is inadequate and makes it difficult to get new service.

Will it be extended? I heard the City of Cleveland inner-ring suburbs is 72% complete. Meanwhile, Columbus is 91% complete.

The auto and boat shows and many other others can be held downtown. No great loss here. And there are upsides. No more IX running competing shows with downtown---and running them one week BEFORE the similar scheduled ones Downtown. Now it can be used for airport purposes or torn down for field expansion at Hopkins. The city bought precisely for that reason in the 90s or so.

^interesting. Why would they do that? Does Progressive have an ownership stake in Erieview Plaza?

KJP--thanks for posting the map. Looking at it, it reminds me how much I hate the Applied Industrial Technologies building (Bearings, Inc.) with their suburban campus with setbacks on all four sides.

Crains: MidTown Historic District in the works for Cleveland https://www.crainscleveland.com/government/midtown-historic-district-works-cleveland Is this a good thing or bad? "Millionaires Row, the much-mourned Euclid Avenue stretch of mansions mostly lost to time and urban decay, is at the center of a proposed MidTown Historic District that primarily celebrates 1950s-era structures that came after the huge homes." This isn't apparently about the mansions, but the later stuff. If we lock in the 3-4 story buildings and setbacks and parking---doesn't it make it more difficult to eventually tear that down and build taller, nicer, and street-front buildings?

I started reading an interesting article yesterday about how COVID is impacting businesses by business size. TransDigm was able borrow $1.5 billion in two Fed bond offerings, no strings attached, then laid off 3000 workers. Meanwhile the guy who owns a Dunkin Donuts franchise in the Galleria (TransDigm is in Erieview Tower) got $3,000 from the Paycheck Protection Program, which ran out almost immediately, spent on payroll and rent, and is now struggling to survive. I was reading it on cleveland.com and was AMAZED at the quality of the article. It was too good for cleveland.com. So I went to the byline to see who wrote it, and indeed it wasn't their article. It was by ProPublica. Here's the ProPublica article here. The photos are different in the two articles---cleveland.com uses photos they themselves took instead of those in the propublica article. https://features.propublica.org/cleveland-bailout/the-big-corporate-rescue-and-the-america-thats-too-small-to-save/

I use this page which is good list of all the major projects going on. Its always up-to-date: https://www.centerforcleveland.org/current-cle-projects I'm not a fan of electric gardens. Big, long lot, I know--I'd rather see two or three bldgs perhaps with a connected rooftop garden/resident community area. Or, if it had to be one structure, then a better design (and I know the current one is an improvement from the original).

The library will be at the southwest corner of East 66 and Lexington Ave.

Just heard there is a lot of subleasing activity going on downtown---10k+ SF every six days. This is unprecedented and underscores companies' uncertainty during covid and post-covid. But this fragmentizes the supply--we will have fewer large spaces and new bunches of small spaces coming on the market all the time once these subleases come up for renewal.

^I like Key too. I just meant the brown/grey look. Some color/glass on the Cleveland streets would be welcome.

Imagine if we really did get a building like that though that was full of color? It would be bold and risky, but if it was appropriate for any company, it would be a paint or design firm. I'd take a colorful building or a modern, sleek glass one (like the Hilton) over the Key Tower/BP-type Cleveland style.

Is 10600 Chester the "Main Block - North" in this diagram?:

Does this mean new towers built beside the existing ones already at the Gold Coast?

Re "redd up the table," I'm from Cleveland and have never ever heard that phrase before. I would have guess it meant setting the table--getting it "ready". But I looked it up and it means the opposite---it means cleaning up the table AFTER a meal.

What's it called?

How many lanes is it now or how many feet wide is it?

Did it get approval at the Planning Commission meeting?

I remember those bldgs as well---1 and 33 Public Square. However at that time, in terms of tall buildings, only the Terminal Tower stood on the square. Now we have a 45+ story building on each of the three quadrants. So to balance this, something substantial (at least 40 stories) needs to be on the NW quadrant as well; simply buidling "anything" won't do anymore.

Citing construction delays due to Covid, Cleveland Clinic London will open in early 2022, instead of 2021. They'll open an outpatient center in Fall 2021. 2021 is also the centennial for the Clinic.

^A smart bird that is hanging around may get wise to the same distress or whatever sounds. But a MIGRATORY bird by definition would not have been at a place in Lake Erie before, so it may work in this use case.