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More layoffs at Hopkins. In addition to 450 UA workers and 95 Express Jet mechanics recently announced, HMS Host, the concessionaire at Hopkins, just announced they are permanently laying off 44 staff.

^I really hope it doesn't become another event/wedding - only place, as that space is then lost to the public (whether or not they can afford it). I hope it becomes another restaurant of some type.

I hope they are fully a CLE headquartered company. Looking at their webpage, they list CLE (E. 9 St.) and NY addresses. I like their concept. But what struck me is their group photo "about us"....such incredible racial diversity: https://www.fundthatflip.com/about-us

Not all will leave them at once---so you'd have to evict people when the time comes for that more substantial thing. I'd rather not build metal structures there that don't match the surroundings and build something right the first time. Inappropriate things or buildings --even if temporary are not necessarily better than an empty space. How far do you take the "better than an open lot argument"? (not necessarily you PoshSteve, but all who support that thinking). Would a strip club be acceptable? A square bldg with no windows that is a warehouse? An outpatient drug-rehab facility or homeless shelter?

Who is the architect? It important to know---so you if you ever have a project you're in charge of you, you NEVER hire them. There's no excuses for such ugliness anywhere, but esp. in a key economic driver neighborhood.

Summer is ending and September is almost here.....where are the boats!?

Fast--before anyone could intervene....

From Brookings and the impact and recovery from Covid for CLE (and similar cities): Also known as “older industrial” cities, these are places like Detroit, Cleveland, St. Louis, Pittsburgh, and Buffalo and Rochester, N.Y. ....Legacy cities are likely to suffer more deeply from the COVID-19 pandemic. They have high concentrations of residents vulnerable to the disease itself, due to underlying health conditions, inadequate access to good health care, and other environmental factors. Legacy cities also have fragile economies with long-standing structural weaknesses that expose them to more severe initial impacts and complicate their path to recovery...." https://www.brookings.edu/research/the-perils-and-promise-of-americas-legacy-cities-in-the-pandemic-era

Red (the steakhouse) is returning to 417 Prospect. I thought they left for good. "Red, the Steakhouse is scheduled to reopen its downtown Cleveland location Friday, Aug. 14. Socially-distanced indoor and rooftop dining, weather-permitting, will be available at the restaurant, which is at 417 Prospect Ave. Hours are 5 to 10 p.m. Wednesday through Saturday...." https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2020/08/red-the-steakhouse-to-reopen-in-cleveland.html

^Great, thanks. I will swing by. Have been waiting for it to open since it was first announced.

Is the Jerk Chicken place in the City Club bldg open yet? I think they were to open on July 4th, but I went by there around the 10th or so and they were still boarded shut.

^Yeah, its a great resource. I don't know of any other site that lists all active projects like that in a single list. Also, their page about Cleveland is great and I often use it when sending people info on Cleveland. I had looked for months for a good site that describes Cleveland without making it small or with statements like "second largest city in Ohio" or citing official MSA numbers that actually aren't accurate as they exclude Cleveland suburbs in Summit and Portage counties. Was very happy to find that page. It also appears internationally focused. It is--as I keep it handy!: https://www.centerforcleveland.org/cleveland

^change the * in the link the letter "i"

^based on the enthusiasm here, I take it, Meijer is a good thing? I am asking earnestly as I am completely unfamiliar with them.

Hey--KJP--I was just about to hit "Submit" on my update on this thread posting the same story!

Seedy? The Flats weren't seedy. Even the Circus wasn't. It was a great, very Cleveland district.

^I agree. Its tiny. There's an image on this page of what its supposed to look like when its complete--scroll down to Midtown: https://www.centerforcleveland.org/current-cle-projects

Ugh---i remember that W 6 Plan---I hated it. The buildings were not along W 6, but set back from the street. you can see it in the rendering.

A terrible time for restaurants, though maybe the timing will work out as there will be fewer restaurants to compete with when they open. Hampton Social appears to be some kind of chain out of Chicago. Anyone know, is it any good or a cheesy chain? From their website, it's not readily apparent. https://www.thehamptonsocial.com/

^I fully agree. We need more office space in UC--and modern space at that. I'm okay with this piece of land being used for office instead of the shorter, curved residential building shown in earlier plans. However, this office bldg will only be 7 floors of offices--atop 6 floors of parking. 7 floors isn't that much. I'd love to see a full 24-story bldg or so (the height of the first residential bldg)--even if it is 16 office floors atop 8 floors of parking. We don't need one floor of parking for every floor of offices. The 16 stories will easily fill up.

^Also, interest rates are extremely low now, so people--locally--wanted to upgrade their housing and that can get loans are doing so. Homes put on the market in CLE--depending on the neighborhood--are not lasting more than a few weeks, I've heard. "I don't have any personal stories of people I know leaving Boston, Philadelphia, or Chicago....for Cleveland or other midsize interior cities." Interior city? Have you not seen that giant lake on the northern edge of the city? Its the third (North) coast, remember!?!

^This may finally reduce some of the insane rents in places in NY and SF. Hopefully these covid-prompted moves to CLE from the coasts and Chicago will be permanent or least long enough to prop up the market and attract other new people.

There must be some outmigration too for the same reason? A New Yorker's Cleveland is the same as a Clevelander's Findley or Salem, OH. People from those small towns who at one point moved to Cleveland as their big city have decided to move back home for the same reasons people leave NY or Chicago. Is there any evidence of this happen too? Or just the movements to CLE and Cincy?

Thanks---that would be interesting to see. I guess they've gotten big enough of a company that whatever share of the market they handle, they can extrapolate to estimate the whole market.

I agree that it seems to have been going on for some time. My point was, if there was a sudden acceleration of the trend because of COVID---if the bulk of that bump occurred in the past 2 months or so, which may be likely, it was AFTER census day (April 1), so all those new Clevelanders would still be counted as New Yorkers or whatever.