July 14, 201014 yr It doesn't go far enough. Take two cubes, superimposed on each other. Rotate one 90 degrees (any direction) Rotate again 90 degrees about an orthogonal axis. There. Kind of like a Star of David rotated through 360 degrees. I am sure there is an name for this polygon but it has been two many years since I took anyalytic geometry. Do you mean 45 degrees? Rotating a cube 90 degrees along any axis running from the center of the cube through the center of a surface of the cube doesn't change its appearance if all sides have the same surface. Yes, yes 45 degrees. How about a pyramidal roof?
July 15, 201014 yr MOCA Cleveland design by Farshid Moussavi of FOA calls for a multifaceted gem clad in glass and shiny black stainless steel Published: Thursday, July 15, 2010, 10:15 AM Updated: Thursday, July 15, 2010, 11:21 AM Steven Litt, The Plain Dealer CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The new Museum of Contemporary Art Cleveland, for which designs will be made public today at a meeting of the Euclid Corridor Design Review Committee, is the latest manifestation of a familiar story: Yet another cultural institution is attempting to brand itself with an architecturally spectacular building-as-logo. At 34,000 square feet, the building, designed by the internationally renowned architect Farshid Moussavi, of Foreign Office Architects in London, England, is a variation on a theme that has included everything from Peter Eisenman's Wexner Center for the Arts in Columbus, to Frank Gehry's Guggenheim Museum branch in Bilbao, Spain. Moussavi's design calls for a four-story faceted gem clad in tinted and transparent glass and shiny black stainless steel, which rises from a hexagonal footprint at the base to a square-shaped gallery floor on the top level. ... For the rest of the article, visit: http://blog.cleveland.com/architecture/2010/07/moca_cleveland_design_by_farsh.html
July 15, 201014 yr Wow, this is a very slick design. That area is going to be awesome in a couple of years.
July 15, 201014 yr I like it better now that I have seen more renderings and I generally am not impressed by modern architecture. It sure beats the hell out of the new public library we have here in Seattle-what a monstrosity. I think it will look cool in the snow on a sunny winter day.
July 15, 201014 yr I like it better now that I have seen more renderings and I generally am not impressed by modern architecture. It sure beats the hell out of the new public library we have here in Seattle-what a monstrosity. I think it will look cool in the snow on a sunny winter day. Off topic, what don't you like about the Seattle PL?
July 16, 201014 yr Awesome! Besides being an iconic new building for University Circle, I must say on a side note that I'm impressed with the main image that shows a computer generated version of the building integrated with a photo of the area. That, and the computer generated video, are both pretty neato!
July 16, 201014 yr Awesome! Besides being an iconic new building for University Circle, I must say on a side note that I'm impressed with the main image that shows a computer generated version of the building integrated with a photo of the area. That, and the computer generated video, are both pretty neato! jborger, you are so funny to me. "neato". I haven't heard that in a long time!
July 16, 201014 yr I like it better now that I have seen more renderings and I generally am not impressed by modern architecture. It sure beats the hell out of the new public library we have here in Seattle-what a monstrosity. I think it will look cool in the snow on a sunny winter day. Off topic, what don't you like about the Seattle PL? I could write a disertation on everything that is wrong with it but here goes: i) not harminious in size, shape, materials with surrounding buildings; ii) Cheap materials inside and out, interior floor is painted concrete; ii) Garrish interior colors, one floor is all blood red, floor, walls and cielings. Some report vertigo and nausea when inside; iv) Nobody likes it; v) I could go on, the addition to the Cleveland Public library looks like the taj Mahal in comparison.
July 17, 201014 yr I am not impressed. Not in the least. This site has some other renderings: http://mocacleveland.org/eventphotos.php
July 17, 201014 yr I like it better now that I have seen more renderings and I generally am not impressed by modern architecture. It sure beats the hell out of the new public library we have here in Seattle-what a monstrosity. I think it will look cool in the snow on a sunny winter day. Off topic, what don't you like about the Seattle PL? I could write a disertation on everything that is wrong with it but here goes: i) not harminious in size, shape, materials with surrounding buildings; ii) Cheap materials inside and out, interior floor is painted concrete; ii) Garrish interior colors, one floor is all blood red, floor, walls and cielings. Some report vertigo and nausea when inside; iv) Nobody likes it; v) I could go on, the addition to the Cleveland Public library looks like the taj Mahal in comparison. Haha, ok, well some people don't like the "off the shelf" look that most towns put out. i. why are current designs required to lack any imagination and design just because the people who "designed" buildings before them lacked any creativity? Context in most cases is a word used when people don't understand contemporary design. ii. Painted concrete floor is a lot more durable and a lot easier to maintain than any other material, can't speak to the rest of the materials iii. refer to item i for color choices. iv. lots of people like it, in fact it was named of of the best buildings of the decade by a highly regarded and respected group of Architect peers. http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2010/08/architecture-survey-list-201008 v. the CPL has its place in the design realm, but I would take the Seattle over the CPL any day. and we better end it at that before we get in trouble
July 18, 201014 yr I love the design, however I can't picture how it fits in with the Triangle apartments...isn't that on that corner now?
July 18, 201014 yr ^there is a strip mall there now that will be torn down and most of those apartments I (think) will remain.
July 22, 201014 yr Its odd that only the top floor will be real exhibit space. 25% of square footage for galleries in a museum?
July 22, 201014 yr Its odd that only the top floor will be real exhibit space. 25% of square footage for galleries in a museum? They have no permanent collections I'm pretty sure.
July 22, 201014 yr Totally random thought as I have no idea how these things work...but maybe with a good design and vision someone like Peter B would be interested in donating or at least displaying some of Progressive's collection to the public there?? Don't they have a world class collection of modern art...and he is a big proponent of high modern design. He practically funded Frank Gehry's formative years with his never built house. And he always says if UC gets its s**t together he would be a much better civic partner with them. I have no basis for this, just a random thought and could be completely wrong...just a "What if". Seems like a natural fit to me though.
August 6, 201014 yr ...but maybe with a good design and vision someone like Peter B would be interested in donating or at least displaying some of Progressive's collection to the public there? it takes a lot more than a pretty building to house a real collection. for every piece of art on a wall at a museum, there are a hundred more in storage. even at a small museum. the cost of maintaining a collection is shocking. this building is essentially a special exhibition space, with attached offices. it is not nearly large enough to hold a permanent collection, and the facilities necessary to support one. moreover, the whims of a single collector should not be the sole influence of what is acceptable(what is art...according to so and so) within a collection. rather, it should be a combination of careful selection and wonderful gifts.
August 6, 201014 yr It's unfortunate that the streetscape of Mayfield is such a disaster between Euclid and the railroad overpass. Kudos to MOCA for not sugar coating this fact in its renderings, which show the hideous UH parking facilities and driveways in the background. The [presumably] high quality hardscape of the new MOCA plaza is also going to highlight just how chintzy the Euclid Corridor build-out was through University Circle. I'm liking the building more and more, though as it sinks in.
August 10, 201014 yr The interior concept really reminds me the RnR HOF. Just a different shape I agree, and in my mind this is not a good thing. Moca often has live music and loud events, these big interiors are terrible for sound. The Pei building is interesting too look at, but a disaster for displaying that collection, and worse yet as a venue for live music.
August 10, 201014 yr Quote ...but maybe with a good design and vision someone like Peter B would be interested in donating or at least displaying some of Progressive's collection to the public there? it takes a lot more than a pretty building to house a real collection. for every piece of art on a wall at a museum, there are a hundred more in storage. even at a small museum. the cost of maintaining a collection is shocking. this building is essentially a special exhibition space, with attached offices. it is not nearly large enough to hold a permanent collection, and the facilities necessary to support one. moreover, the whims of a single collector should not be the sole influence of what is acceptable(what is art...according to so and so) within a collection. rather, it should be a combination of careful selection and wonderful gifts. By no means did I expect Progressive to give their collection to them, nor did I say to stock the place with only art from that collection....nor did I state that I thought the MOCA had the resources to handle a huge collection. Rather, I was simply throwing it out there that maybe this is finally an opportunity for the public to get a glimpse of that world class art collection if they were able to display some of it sometimes....or received pieces as gifts. I personally would love to see it since I have heard so much about it. rather, it should be a combination of careful selection and wonderful gifts. Possibly some wonderful gifts or selections from good corporate or private citizens that resides in....maybe...Cleveland? And on that short list would be....maybe...Progressive??
August 11, 201014 yr I was worried how the building would look at night, but if the end of the video is any indication my fears are allayed.
August 11, 201014 yr ...maybe with a good design and vision someone like Peter B would be interested in donating or at least displaying... I am not interested in debating what you wrote, but to be sure I was responding to the suggestion of a donated collection. I am more talking about the kind of building that is designed. as it is, this could not house or maintain a permanent collection. any donation implies permanent collection.
August 11, 201014 yr The MOCA currently has zero permanent collection; however, a PBL display in an intriguing idea.
September 24, 201014 yr Cleveland Foundation adds $500k to Museum of Contemporary Art Cleveland building campaign Published: Friday, September 24, 2010, 5:42 PM Steven Litt, The Plain Dealer Thanks to the Cleveland Foundation, the Museum of Contemporary Art Cleveland jumped $500,000 closer to its goal of raising $26.3 million for its proposed new building by the end of October. The foundation, which had donated $1 million toward the new museum building in 2006, announced Friday it was making a second grant for a construction project, something it rarely does. "This is pretty unusual for us," said Robert Eckardt, senior vice president for programs and evaluation at the foundation. "The board [of directors] wanted to send a signal both of the importance of the project, and the importance of getting it done." MOCA has raised $22.8 million for the project, not including the foundation's grant. It needs to complete fundraising by Oct. 29 in order to qualify for federal and State of Ohio tax credits, which could pump an additional $4.5 million into MOCA's endowment. That money would help pay for ongoing operations in the new building. http://blog.cleveland.com/architecture/2010/09/cleveland_foundation_adds_500k.html
September 25, 201014 yr Are they at the point where they can obtain a bridge loan? Or would that not apply to this type of project?
September 27, 201014 yr Hot in Cleveland Month day, year By Josephine Minutillo "Talk to most architects in Ohio and they’ll tell you it’s a pretty conservative place. But while design innovation may be a hard sell for local architects, the state has had an astonishing track record in the last decade for giving cutting-edge foreign architects their first shot at building on American soil, arguably more so than more “forward-thinking” locales on either coast. " http://archrecord.construction.com/features/encounters/1009Cleveland/1009Cleveland.asp https://www.instagram.com/cle_and_beyond/https://www.instagram.com/jbkaufer/
November 1, 201014 yr GOOD NEWS! MOCA Cleveland ready to pull trigger on $26.7 million building at Uptown in University Circle Published: Monday, November 01, 2010, 12:09 PM Updated: Monday, November 01, 2010, 12:34 PM Steven Litt, The Plain Dealer Follow Share this story Story tools View full sizeForeign Office Architects A rendering of the design for the new MOCA Cleveland building, which will be clad in glass and black stainless steel. After five years of design and fundraising hampered by a recession, the Museum of Contemporary Art Cleveland is poised to embark on a $26.7 million project to create its first permanent home. MOCA's board of trustees is scheduled to vote Tuesday at 8:30 a.m. on authorizing construction of an architecturally dramatic new building designed by Farshid Moussavi of Foreign Office Architects in London. http://www.cleveland.com/arts/index.ssf/2010/11/moca_cleveland_ready_to_pull_t.html
November 19, 201014 yr Demolition is beginning on the corner of Euclid and Mayfield. Crews were there this morning knocking out some of the first floor windows and doing other demo work. The big absract art piece was lifted out last week, which sat in front of the triangle office building.
November 22, 201014 yr Picture taken by MuRrAy HiLL Demolition of first floor interior of the old triabgle corner building -- future construction site of MOCA
November 23, 201014 yr Oh that looks like fun! I want to do what I won't charge a thing! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 23, 201014 yr demo sounds fun until you are fifteen minutes into it and realize you have to do it forty hours a week.
December 8, 201014 yr Demolition crews have been working through the storm today and the corner triangle building is now completely demolished. The piles of rubble are being hauled away. I'd bet that it won't be too long before the site is ready for construction.
December 20, 201014 yr Every news source states the MOCA will have a December groundbreaking. Fingers crossed on an announcement soon! http://mocacleveland.org/newbuilding.php
December 20, 201014 yr Except there's not much left of December! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 20, 201014 yr didn't they already announce this with the vote to proceed? and given some of the uptown pictures I think ground has been broken :)
January 9, 201114 yr an updated video presentation showing further details and updates to the interior and more accurate renderings of its surroundings <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/13382353" width="400" height="225" frameborder="0"></iframe><p><a href="http://vimeo.com/13382353">Tour the New MOCA Cleveland</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user3731873">Moca Cleveland</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
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