June 20, 201113 yr What capabilities do they have for expanding beyond their footprint within which they're building now? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 20, 201113 yr What capabilities do they have for expanding beyond their footprint within which they're building now? Looks like none
June 20, 201113 yr As I unerstand it, MOCA doesn't have much of a permanent collection. It is used more for traveling shows and temporary exhibitions. The structure is being built to adequately handle the demand, I'm sure.
June 20, 201113 yr As I unerstand it, MOCA doesn't have much of a permanent collection. It is used more for traveling shows and temporary exhibitions. The structure is being built to adequately handle the demand, I'm sure. Thats right, they are pretty much strictly an exhibitions space, although Im kinda surprised they would limit themselves as such with people like Toby Lewis and important collectors such as Peter Lewis and Progressive in the area (well sort of). Especially given that Peter has put up so much funding for other contempory art museums, it seems like it should have been a natural fit here.
June 20, 201113 yr I think it's perfect size... If they had permanent collections, I would argue otherwise.
June 20, 201113 yr Now I understand. I didn't realize they lacked a permanent collection. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 6, 201113 yr Huge cranes on site this morning and a ton of steel beams. The first one will be going up at 1:30 today if anyone can get down here and take pictures.
July 6, 201113 yr OK, I have a few quick pics: First, form earlier today when I say the cranes: And then, the FIRST steel beams into the air:
July 7, 201113 yr Excuse my expletive deleted language, but I'm pretty f-ing excited to see this area when it's all said and done!
July 8, 201113 yr ^But it doesn't show much of Uptown- so don't think you're off the hook completely! ;) Seriously though, I have very, very much appreciated all your UC-area photo updates.
July 11, 201113 yr Drove by today. Those framing beams are HUGE. This project is going to be taller than I had anticipated.
July 11, 201113 yr I was down there this weekend. Very interesting to see this building take shape, based on the angles of the structural steel...
July 12, 201113 yr ^^ Agreed. I think that because the renderings tried to contextualize the building from a little further away, it looked smaller than it's actually going to be. It's a LOT bigger than I anticipated.
July 14, 201113 yr This may eliminate our need for picture updates... WEBCAM http://24.123.243.38/ Wow, from the web cam, the outer shape of the thing is already very discernible from the steel framing.
July 14, 201113 yr This project is cooking. I bike by it every day. If everything was built this fast, the projects in this city would all be done by 2013. It seems as if the uptown apartments cant keep up with it...and they got a head start!!
July 15, 201113 yr Just for fun I "connected the dots" and used some of the diagrams to put together how this will look (vaguely). This is MUCH bigger than I expected, will have quite the presence, especially with the shiny black exterior.
July 15, 201113 yr While I can appreciate its uniqueness and I suppose a necessary eccentric quality, I still think that design is just ugly.
July 15, 201113 yr I'm just happy it's not beige or brick. Should be interesting to compare it's daytime presence to its nighttime, lit-up presence. I'm pretty excited.
July 19, 201113 yr Wow!!! They are really moving along. Thanks for the update. They have to get it under roof before the snow flies in August.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 19, 201113 yr They always go up fast. And then after they are sealed up people on the board start asking if the project has been abandoned or delayed because they can't see work being done. ;)
August 10, 201113 yr A few pics from today: 1) Full frontal 2) Side shot: 3) Where the plaza will be located: 4) Wide shot: 5) Mayfield/Euclid Ave intersection with northside Phase I Uptown
August 24, 201113 yr ^ Additional UPDATE: they is now a metal roof being installed. http://24.123.243.38/
August 24, 201113 yr They must have hired the same construction company that Taco Bell hires, it only takes them a week to build anything. They'd already have Med mart and flats east project done and open.
August 24, 201113 yr As a general thought, this building always seems too small to me. You figure almost one whole floor will be devoted to admin. office, storage, art prep, etc., that only leaves three floors. And there really is no opportunity for expansion. But I'm not the one running MOCA or know of their true space needs. So who am I to judge. https://www.instagram.com/cle_and_beyond/https://www.instagram.com/jbkaufer/
August 24, 201113 yr This looks way bigger than the space they're in now. If anything this is an expansion.
August 24, 201113 yr As a general thought, this building always seems too small to me. You figure almost one whole floor will be devoted to admin. office, storage, art prep, etc., that only leaves three floors. And there really is no opportunity for expansion. But I'm not the one running MOCA or know of their true space needs. So who am I to judge. I think someone previously mentioned that they don't have their own permanent collection, thus they don't need as much space.
August 24, 201113 yr As a general thought, this building always seems too small to me. You figure almost one whole floor will be devoted to admin. office, storage, art prep, etc., that only leaves three floors. And there really is no opportunity for expansion. But I'm not the one running MOCA or know of their true space needs. So who am I to judge. I think someone previously mentioned that they don't have their own permanent collection, thus they don't need as much space. Thats right.
August 30, 201113 yr The first shot Murray Hill took actually makes the building look much larger then the shots taken from the NW corner of Ford and Euclid. I think the strange dimensions of this building make it look small from certain angles. Great Pictures!
September 3, 201113 yr wow its going up quick now -- looks like it will be fine for everybody except richard serra.
September 20, 201113 yr Photo from the Uptown thread: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jjames0408/6160809609/#
September 30, 201113 yr can we get some updated shots on this thread? i was wondering if any of the black 'dethstar' cladding was up yet? if and when i would like to see a panel that up close if possible. thx!
October 1, 201113 yr I'd be interested to know how MOCA's reacting to the Bidwell/CMA partnership around contemporary art in Ohio City ... There didn't seem to be much of a weigh-in from MOCA in Litt's recent article. I'm pleased as punch that CMA is getting serious about contemporary art, and I'm hopeful that there's enough appetite for contemporary that both buildings will do quite well, but it could be an interesting wrinkle.
October 1, 201113 yr ^Yeah, I wondered the same thing when I saw David Franklin's quote in the PD coverage (http://www.cleveland.com/arts/index.ssf/2011/09/cleveland_museum_of_art_and_bi.html): “I want the Cleveland Museum of Art to be the glue for the contemporary scene in Cleveland, which feels ready to burst,” he said. Still, the new MOCA building is going to be much larger and more visible and will benefit from its proximity to the other museums, IMHO, so I doubt they feel very threatened in terms of visitor counts. They might feel slighted by all the money the CMA is getting for contemporary programming though.
October 9, 201113 yr http://24.123.243.38/index.html?size=1&mode=0 the interior blue has been applied to the steel framing
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