December 22, 201113 yr ^ I have to imagine the black has to still be the game plan. I would think a major change in the color or reflectivity of the material would require design review, and surely one of us urban nerds would have caught that on an agenda :) I'm anxious to see the final product, too!
December 22, 201113 yr I'd think the final coating would have gone through the whole design review process at least six months ago.
December 22, 201113 yr It is Rimex obesdian black seen in the official renderings of the project. I was a part of an AIA Cleveland tour of the project site a few weeks ago and someone asked about the cladding system. It is what is commonly referred to as a rain screen system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainscreen_cladding), which in a really dumb terms, means it is multiple layers of skin. What is up currently is only the inner layer of the rain screen. For construction purposes, they installed the outer shell and roof first so as to get the shell of the building enclosed before the weather turns for the winter. While the project visually appears to be moving fairly fast, its not as far as many seem to think. Normally, the interior floors and such would be completed before any exterior skin is installed (say how Uptown is being built, which is also a much different construction process, being a concrete flat plate frame), but because of weather concerns, the inner shell of the rainscreen took priority so that they have some level of climate control of the interior for construction during the winter months.
December 22, 201113 yr The current facing material sure doesn't look like the architect's prospective drawings: http://mocacleveland.org/newbuilding.php :lol:
December 22, 201113 yr That is because it is not done yet. I am pretty sure that you will like the finished work. 8-)
December 22, 201113 yr Yea, that is what I am saying. What everyone is seeing at the moment is the inner layer of the rain screen. There is another final layer which will be reflective and black, like the renderings, going up over that.
December 22, 201113 yr From the renderings, it seems as though the outer layer is not all black and does include some kind of metallic reflective sheathing.... http://mocacleveland.org/newbuilding.php
December 22, 201113 yr ^ I was under the impression that it is all black (with the exception of the eastern-facing wall, which is glass), just highly reflective. It looks to me like the variation in color is just showing that the upward facing panels will catch a lot more light and will appear lighter as a result.
December 23, 201113 yr Well my Nexus LEDclock I bought from the Museum of Modern Art shop, in NY, reminds me of it:[/img]
December 31, 201113 yr All I can think of when I see those pictures is a 1950s/60s-style Donut Connection (previously Amy Joy Donuts?). "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 1, 201213 yr "The mockup was built to simulate a corner-section at the top of the building. The mock-up for MOCA Cleveland was completed in June of 2011, and a few images of the architects' visit are featured below." - http://www.azahner.com/portfolio/moca-cleveland
January 1, 201213 yr SNOD A great find and read. The article answers all the questions regarding the finish to the exterior. The mockup is stunning!
January 11, 201213 yr I stumbled across this last night...some more updated shots (need to scroll down a little bit): https://plus.google.com/photos/110299955469582761001/albums/5695977098055069745?banner=pwa
January 13, 201213 yr "The mockup was built to simulate a corner-section at the top of the building. The mock-up for MOCA Cleveland was completed in June of 2011, and a few images of the architects' visit are featured below." - http://www.azahner.com/portfolio/moca-cleveland Funny, looking at all the Case Nerds looking at this wierd thing with quizical looks on their faces. TEdolph
January 13, 201213 yr Umm why would you say these are Case Nerds when this mock up was built at the Zahner shop in Kansas City? "The mockup was built to simulate a corner-section at the top of the building. The mock-up for MOCA Cleveland was completed in June of 2011, and a few images of the architects' visit are featured below." - http://www.azahner.com/portfolio/moca-cleveland Funny, looking at all the Case Nerds looking at this wierd thing with quizical looks on their faces. TEdolph
January 13, 201213 yr I imagine that shot is mostly architects and construction people. Being allowed the budget to do a mock-up is a rare and extremely valuable condition for an architect and I am very happy to know that they did one. This makes for a quality final product, though it may signify a fairly repetitive facade. In this building's case, however, the form more than makes up for that IMHO. Beautiful photos! Great link MurrayHill
January 13, 201213 yr SNOD A great find and read. The article answers all the questions regarding the finish to the exterior. The mockup is stunning! ditto! this libeskind residence uses the same cladding: more: http://www.azahner.com/portfolio/libeskind-residence
January 13, 201213 yr Umm why would you say these are Case Nerds when this mock up was built at the Zahner shop in Kansas City? "The mockup was built to simulate a corner-section at the top of the building. The mock-up for MOCA Cleveland was completed in June of 2011, and a few images of the architects' visit are featured below." - http://www.azahner.com/portfolio/moca-cleveland Funny, looking at all the Case Nerds looking at this wierd thing with quizical looks on their faces. TEdolph 'Cause they look like Case nerds-I oughta know! What, you don't think they have any Case Nerds in K.C.? Why Case Nerds are everywhere! You just don't know it-they keep low profile. TEdolph, class of '81
January 23, 201213 yr ^ Thanks for the pic Enjoy some Sunday actors as the construction gets closer and closer to completion, AND...drumroll...note the opening date: MOCA's Last Hurrah on Carnegie Avenue The end is near for the Museum of Contemporary Art Cleveland – well, at least for the museum’s current location. MOCA reflects on its impending move from 8501 Carnegie Ave. to 11400 Euclid Ave. with its last exhibition, 8501 to 11400 (On Moving). Ben Kinsley, known for his playful and engaging site-specific performances, has engaged two actors to play street preachers. One actor will stand outside at MOCA’s current location and announce, “The end is nigh!” while the other, in University Circle near the construction site, will proclaim “A new beginning is imminent!” The actors debut the performance tonight and will appear on the street 12:30-1:30 p.m. every Sunday through March 24. They’ll distribute hand-written brochures to witnesses on the street that will contain testimonials about MOCA from visitors but never actually name the museum itself. Sound recordings of this quirky scene will play through the speakers in the exhibition space. The exhibit will run until March 31, when MOCA shuts its doors for the move. It’ll reopen in early October at its new location. http://clevelandmagazine.blogspot.com/2012/01/mocas-last-hurrah-on-carnegie-avenue.html
February 3, 201213 yr ^ and yes those are windows cut into the cladding. The glass has been installed.
February 3, 201213 yr And it has begun :) From the MOCA Facebook page: The exterior panels are beginning to be installed on MOCA’s new building
February 3, 201213 yr ^You and KJP can duke it out for nerdiest architectural critic: http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,6605.300.html
February 3, 201213 yr Is it wrong that I giggled with excitement when I saw the new cladding? Seriously, I'm 40.
February 3, 201213 yr ^ I bet Steve Litt giggled too. Even under construction, the new Museum of Contemporary Art Cleveland packs architectural thrills in a very tight package Published: Friday, February 03, 2012, 2:00 PM Steven Litt, The Plain Dealer The new Museum of Contemporary Art Cleveland in University Circle is a Rubik’s Cube of a building packed with visual and spatial experiences unlike any other structure in Cleveland. A visit to the museum-in-the-making — now on time and on budget and scheduled to open Friday, Oct. 5 — shows that MOCA is shaping up as an architectural thrill ride. Located at the point of the triangle formed by Euclid Avenue and Mayfield Road, the building has slanted windows that make the city outside look askew, shiny facades that lean forward or back, and a staircase with a high landing that overlooks a dizzying view straight down to the lobby 55 feet below. http://www.cleveland.com/arts/index.ssf/2012/02/even_under_construction_the_ne.html
February 4, 201213 yr http://24.123.243.38/ Looks like the black paneling is beginning to wrap around the corner.
February 4, 201213 yr Looks like the black paneling is beginning to wrap around the corner. The Matrix has you.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 5, 201213 yr http://24.123.243.38/ Looks like the black paneling is beginning to wrap around the corner. Wow, that's a lot of black panelling.
February 7, 201213 yr The matrix wrap around continues...from the live webcam above (and my walk today).
February 7, 201213 yr When I passed I realized it didn't wrap around yet. That little strip is all thats up, from what I saw on sunday. BTW, MuRrAy HiLL, where you standing on mayfield road this past sunday around 3:00pm? Outside of presti's maybe.
February 7, 201213 yr When I passed I realized it didn't wrap around yet. That little strip is all thats up, from what I saw on sunday. BTW, MuRrAy HiLL, where you standing on mayfield road this past sunday around 3:00pm? Outside of presti's maybe. So there was a siting of me?? Well sounds very probable as I go to Presti's approx 8 times a week, plus live in the neighborhood. PM me if you need to discuss further, not to go off topic.
February 8, 201213 yr ^ nice job. the first shot is most helpful. you can really start to grasp what it will look like lit up at night when you drive by. it looks so close to the streets -- i hope they put some bollards up around the sidewalk to protect it from errant traffic as it might be mesmerizing at night.
February 25, 201213 yr In case anyone is interested, MOCA has been posting time-lapse videos of the construction from the construction cam. Pretty awesome stuff! Here is the first video which shows the steel being welded. Untitled
March 2, 201213 yr Has anyone else checked out the black paneling recently? It looks really wavy and does not give a cool reflection as was promised. Maybe the construction workers do not know how to attach it properly but it looks kind of crappy in my opinion. It looks the worst on the side facing the corner which was done first. The sides which were done in the past week look a bit better. Hopefully they fix this.
March 3, 201213 yr It may need to be polished, which I'm guessing may be typical for this type of cladding procedure.
March 3, 201213 yr It doesn't need to be polished. The covering material is warped so the building does not give a cool reflection back. The reflection is very scattered. It is not like the mirror like finish from the mock up and looks kind of cheap. Go check it out to see what I mean. I still think the building will be cool but not as good as it could have been.
March 3, 201213 yr Maybe we should all descend on MOCA with hairdryers, heat up that film and stretch that wrap tight!! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 3, 201213 yr I totally disagree. The wavy reflection looks great and provides some texture to the building. I'll wait untill it's done to pass final judgment....but for now, I like.
March 5, 201213 yr Museum of Contemporary Art Cleveland's new building to open in October CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Wexner Center in Columbus caused a ruckus in 1989 when it opened its new building at Ohio State University, designed by cutting-edge architect Peter Eisenman, without a single artwork inside. The idea was to show off the building as a work of art in itself. The Museum of Contemporary Art Cleveland, in reaction to the Wexner and other institutions with new buildings that have spotlighted architecture rather than art, will try to bridge the two worlds when it opens its striking new home in University Circle in October. http://www.cleveland.com/arts/index.ssf/2012/03/museum_of_contemporary_art_cle_7.html :clap: https://www.instagram.com/cle_and_beyond/https://www.instagram.com/jbkaufer/
March 21, 201213 yr Strangely, some of the panels have a much more deep black color and some have a slight greenish tinge. Very odd, not sure I like that.
March 21, 201213 yr Thanks. I'll guess we'll just have to wait and see what the final product will look like. I hate waiting. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 21, 201213 yr You don't think that's just light reflection that makes a few of the panels almost give off a green hue?
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