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Mt. Adams celebrates new wireless view

By Steve Kemme, Cincinnati Enquirer, May 6, 2010

 

MOUNT ADAMS - Part of St. Gregory Street has gone wireless. Not high-tech wireless, but overhead wireless.

 

A recently completed $1.1 million streetscape project on St. Gregory between Pavilion and Hatch streets in Mount Adams has resulted in brick sidewalks, a newly paved street, decorative street lighting and new trees. But the most striking visual impact came from moving the overhead utility wires underground.

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  • Mt. Adams is not dead.  The Teak will be reopening over the next 3-4 months only it can no longer be called the Teak due to the fact that when I sold the business in 2002, the individual I sold it too

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    "art deco style"... makes this guy sad

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    Developer plans Mount Adams condos with views of downtown Cincinnati expand An abstract early rendering of the building envelope for the project at 375 Oregon St. in Mount Adams. Michael McInturf Arch

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I was hoping to see a cool before and after in the photos. They post 11 photos for this story, and not one of them shows the new streets without power lines. But five of them are of utility poles.

 

Seriously, the Enquirer just needs to die.

  • 6 years later...

Peek inside Cincinnati’s newest upscale event center

 

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Monastery Event Center, the high-end event center built in the historic Holy Cross Monastery and Church in Mount Adams, is now open.

 

Towne Properties is leasing the 12,000-square-foot former church on St. Paul Place to Receptions Inc., which is operating the event center. A number of events have been held at Monastery since the more than $3 million renovation project wrapped up this month.

 

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http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2016/05/27/peek-inside-cincinnati-s-newest-upscale-event.html

"You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers

^ where is this development going? All details are behind the pay wall.

^ where is this development going? All details are behind the pay wall.

 

1201 Elsinore Ave.

^ where is this development going? All details are behind the pay wall.

 

Corner of Elsinore Ave and Wareham Dr.

^ where is this development going? All details are behind the pay wall.

 

1201 Elsinore Ave.

^ where is this development going? All details are behind the pay wall.

 

Corner of Elsinore Ave and Wareham Dr.

 

Merci. I'm glad, though surprised, that this development is proceeding.  The Mt. Adams Community Council is controlled by a bunch of old curmudgeons who are vehemently opposed to this project and really anything that will add density to the neighborhood.  I'll have to scan and post a copy of this ridiculous op-ed that was published in the most recent edition of the Mt. Adams community newsletter sometime.  Personally, I'm all for adding more residential on and around the hill...we need more residents so that we can support our own business district, and not rely on suburban bar goers to prop up the businesses on St. Gregory and Pavilion.

  • 4 months later...

City Side Development has gained traction on Oregon Street in Mount Adams.

Signage went up overlooking the city this weekend, and launch party this week.

 

Four high end town houses to overlook the city.

 

https://www.facebook.com/events/353739814962682/

 

^Those look really nice. Are they going on the street where City View Tavern is?

^Those look really nice. Are they going on the street where City View Tavern is?

 

Yes they will be on Oregon Street past City View Tavern before the Palisades development

These look like a lot of the infill that's built in Chicago these days.  Very nice.

I'm crossing my fingers that this is the type of infill  OTR will see in the near future as the area becomes more affluent and wealthier.

I'm crossing my fingers that this is the type of infill  OTR will see in the near future as the area becomes more affluent and wealthier.

 

The curb cuts for garages are a non-starter for OTR. Plus town homes in OTR are already going between a half million to a million dollars. How much wealthier do you need?

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I'm crossing my fingers that this is the type of infill  OTR will see in the near future as the area becomes more affluent and wealthier.

 

The curb cuts for garages are a non-starter for OTR. Plus town homes in OTR are already going between a half million to a million dollars. How much wealthier do you need?

 

They are already happening...

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I'm crossing my fingers that this is the type of infill  OTR will see in the near future as the area becomes more affluent and wealthier.

 

The curb cuts for garages are a non-starter for OTR. Plus town homes in OTR are already going between a half million to a million dollars. How much wealthier do you need?

 

That's nothing in other cities. I'm not even talking Chicago/NYC, I'm talking nearby like Nashville.

 

I'm just pointing out that a lower income neighborhood usually equates to trash infill (it's not always the case, but more times than not the developers care less about making that is quality.) The more wealthier the neighborhood becomes the higher quality the infill becomes. I hate it's like that, but you see it again and again. The level of wealth translates directly to the level of quality of infill.

  • 3 months later...

Cincinnati Playhouse in the Park to build new theater

Feb 16, 2017, 5:54am EST

Tom Demeropolis

Senior Staff Reporter

Cincinnati Business Courier

 

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Cincinnati Playhouse in the Park is launching a capital campaign to replace the existing mainstage theater with a new, state-of-the-art facility.

 

Blake Robison, artistic director of Playhouse in the Park, said the regional theater will continue to be an integral part of Mount Adams and Eden Park.

 

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2017/02/16/cincinnati-playhouse-in-the-park-to-build-new.html

  • 3 weeks later...

Are these the same as in the previous post?

Are these the same as in the previous post?

 

Nope different developer, and opposite sides of the street on Oregon. These will be right across the street from Palisades. The four townhouses mentioned in earlier post are slightly up the street from the Palisades on Oregon.

Is the project at 1201 Elsinore still happening?

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Not sure if this is related to the Elsinore project but some clearing of trees etc being done on the corner of Wareham and Elsinore.

Not sure if this is related to the Elsinore project but some clearing of trees etc being done on the corner of Wareham and Elsinore.

 

Did you grab a photo of the progress?

Not sure if this is related to the Elsinore project but some clearing of trees etc being done on the corner of Wareham and Elsinore.

 

Did you grab a photo of the progress?

 

Hi hoerstw! Took some photos, tried to post but this website if a mf'in joke and couldn't upload. Feel free to inbox me your # and ill send along. If you have any info on the project please let me know, I am desperate for details!

  • 1 month later...

Yikes...

 

 

Retaining wall collapse sends hillside into two Mount Adams homes

Decks on street above also in danger

 

A retaining wall in Mount Adams failed early Wednesday, sending a hillside sliding into homes on Baum Street.

 

The damage was so severe the Cincinnati Fire Department ordered people living in two homes to stay out. The slide damaged the home's first and second floors.

 

No one was injured.

 

Art Dahlberg, director of Cincinnati's buildings department, said several decks along Oregon Street, above Baum, also are in danger.

 

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"It's just fate, as usual, keeping its bargain and screwing us in the fine print..." - John Crichton

Those are the line of modern townhomes built over the last few years that went for well over a million each. That really sucks.

Also, I didn't realize until now that the city let this developer build on the old incline ROW. 

Also it looks like the city has not buried the power lines on Baum St.  They're obstructing those million-dollar views. 

Also it looks like the city has not buried the power lines on Baum St.  They're obstructing those million-dollar views.

 

Only place in the neighborhood where power lines were buried was in the business district, and even then it was done through the community council and fundraising.

  • 3 months later...

Playhouse in the Park selects architect, builder for theater

 

Cincinnati Playhouse in the Park has selected an architect and construction team to build its new mainstage theater complex, which will be the centerpiece of its major capital renovation.

 

The Playhouse in the Park board of trustees selected BHDP Architecture as the architectural firm to design the new theater, which will replace the 626-seat Robert S. Marx Theatre. Messer Construction Co. and TriVersity Construction also have been selected as construction partners for the project.

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2017/08/31/playhouse-in-the-park-selects-architect-builder.html

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  • 6 months later...

Playhouse in the Park to build $40 million theater

 

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Cincinnati Playhouse in the Park, which has been working to replace its aging mainstage theater, has come up with a way to build its new theater and allow performances to continue on-site during construction.

 

Working with project partners BHDP Architecture, Messer Construction Co. and TriVersity Construction, Playhouse plans to shift the new theater to the north, allowing performances to continue in the current Marx Theatre during construction. The new mainstage theater complex is expected to cost $39.5 million.

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/03/15/playhouse-in-the-park-to-build-40-million-theater.html

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Yeah, I think Mt. Adams will continue to be improved to be more upscale as a lot of the night life shifts to OTR and Downtown. I think it's a good thing for the city. 

I hope Mt. Adams finds a niche to fill to remain a destination, or it may be at risk of developing a "gated community" vibe.

Maybe in a few years hipsters will "discover" it. 

Nah, too expensive for that crowd. Hopefully the Hipsters find Lower Price Hill and help it to improve a bit.

I'm not as optimistic, I guess. I lived in Mt. Adams for 3.5 years before moving away from Cincy, and even in that time, I saw the vitality of the neighborhood decline pretty significantly. It'd be one thing if the neighborhood was just losing nightlife, but it's losing everything. Teak, a Mt. Adams staple, is closed. The Rookwood, which had a pretty decent menu and was a destination type of place following Rookwood Pottery's closing, is gone. The Celestial is now closed. Sprout, which was another pretty nice (non-bar) restaurant, closed pretty soon after opening.

 

Maybe current residents are happy with just having a UDF, a couple bars, and the Bow Tie Cafe (I'm shocked they're still in business, actually), but it's pretty sad to see so many closures. The renovation of the old church next to Towne's headquarters into an event center was a positive development, and I suppose turning the Celestial into an event center is better than it sitting vacant, but I would love to see that space return to a real restaurant. I believe the Playhouse in the Park is renovating and expanding, so if they can bring more people into the neighborhood, that might help things as well. Mt. Adams really needs to try to grow its population, and increase transit linkages to downtown. There was a big new building proposed for...Elsinore? Somewhere on the western side of the hill. Any word on whether that is proceeding? There isn't much space for Mt. Adams to grow, but that site would provide a nice big boost, I think. I know there are also $million+ townhomes going in on the front/downtown facing side of Mt. Adams, but I think that's only like 8-10 new townhomes total.

I'm honestly fine with it turning into Cincinnati's Telegraph Hill. Not every neighborhood needs to be a destination, and while it would be nice to see some more vitality up there, it really is an awkward location and I'd rather see any sort of "nightlife" shifted back to McMillan or wherever. If whatever goes on up there is suiting the needs of the yuppies, it's fine with me. Maybe we'll start seeing some sporadic little upscale craft cocktail bars like you see in Columbia-Tusculum.

“To an Ohio resident - wherever he lives - some other part of his state seems unreal.”

Not having any restaurants isn't suiting anyone- yuppies included. Again, the neighborhood isn't just losing the nightlife, it's losing its business district entirely. :-/

I'm honestly fine with it turning into Cincinnati's Telegraph Hill. Not every neighborhood needs to be a destination, and while it would be nice to see some more vitality up there, it really is an awkward location and I'd rather see any sort of "nightlife" shifted back to McMillan or wherever. If whatever goes on up there is suiting the needs of the yuppies, it's fine with me. Maybe we'll start seeing some sporadic little upscale craft cocktail bars like you see in Columbia-Tusculum.

 

Totally agree, I hope this is the future for Mt. Adams. It is inconvenient to get to, and is basically not served by transit. If it turned into an upscale residential community with a handful of nice restaurants or cocktail bars, that's perfectly fine.

Not having any restaurants isn't suiting anyone- yuppies included. Again, the neighborhood isn't just losing the nightlife, it's losing its business district entirely. :-/

 

The last few times I've been up there, Crowley's was totally dead on a Friday and Saturday night.  It looked like a sad bar on a Monday night where you see the bartender playing photo hunt. 

 

^^^I guess my question would just go back to, and you sort of hinted at it, is how much do the people living up there care? If they think it would be an asset to have more convenient places to eat and shop then I'd agree it's unfortunate (and honestly there should be at least *something* for the museum and Playhouse crowd), but if they don't want it then it's no skin off my back. Although it wouldn't be surprising to me if there are residents complaining about rowdy crowds and traffic and assume that anything new that opens up is going to bring with it the same 90s-00s bro crowd that has mostly moved down to Treehouse.

 

None of the bars, at least in their current state, ever wow'd me. Lots of weird 80s relics that instead of feeling quirky were mostly just past their prime. Kinda like the Flats in Cleveland right before its previous incarnation (mercifully) went belly-up around 2001.

“To an Ohio resident - wherever he lives - some other part of his state seems unreal.”

Not having any restaurants isn't suiting anyone- yuppies included. Again, the neighborhood isn't just losing the nightlife, it's losing its business district entirely. :-/

 

I agree that losing Sprout was a bad sign. I also miss The Rookwood, which was a great place to bring visitors to the city. But most of the places that closed simply weren't that good and were stuck in the 80s/90s. I have had really mediocre experiences at most of the other restaurants and cafes in the neighborhood, and many of the bars don't seem to know that craft beer and craft cocktails exist.

A birdie told me that the reason why Chris Bortz pulled his support for the Cincinnati Streetcar was when Towne saw the writing on the wall for Mt. Adams nightlife.  They own the big building on St. Gregory St., of course. 

 

Also, the Art Academy moving out of Mt. Adams was a major loss.  The school obviously was never very large but the area has completely lost the arty dimension that I remember from when I was young.  BTW the address on my birth certificate is a Mt. Adams address...so yes I actually remember it. 

End of the day alot of businesses in Mt.Adams shot themselves in the foot. Teak had really gone downhill the last year in business. Celestial was just gross and over priced. Rookwood rent is way to expensive to be profitable. The Sprout market/restaurant while interesting was way to focused on one type of user. Longworths was managed by one shitty manager after another until they started catering to a crowd that started creating more issues than good. Daveed's failed again because they left moved to Loveland and back and it confused alot of folks about what the hell they were really doing. Calle/Tap N' Go should have stayed the rugby bar theme instead of the mexican bar theme with weirdly catered mazunte that was overpriced and cold.

 

Plus the Bortz family/towne properties owns and runs the majority of the business district. They are both getting up there in age and dont have any aggressive forward thinking plans. I still enjoy living up here and the few business that exist are just fine. They just wont see the huge college crowds that once made Mt.Adams what it once use to be.

Plus the Bortz family/towne properties owns and runs the majority of the business district. They are both getting up there in age and dont have any aggressive forward thinking plans. I still enjoy living up here and the few business that exist are just fine. They just wont see the huge college crowds that once made Mt.Adams what it once use to be.

 

Yesterday's is still an incredibly lousy bar.  It served teenagers in the 90s which is why I went there, but the days of every bar strip having a bar that reliably served under 21's is over. 

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