December 28, 20168 yr Saga of Ashtabula train disaster endures after 140 years (photos, videos) By Brian Albrecht, The Plain Dealer on December 28, 2016 at 5:05 AM, updated December 28, 2016 at 5:06 AM ASHTABULA, Ohio - Today, 140 years ago, Mattie Brunner had less than two days to live. So did Jonathan Rice, Martha Smith and almost 100 other passengers aboard a train crossing a bridge high over the Ashtabula River on Dec. 29, 1876. The westbound train, pulled by two engines to plow through drifting snow, had nearly crossed the 157-foot-long span when the bridge suddenly collapsed. MORE: http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2016/12/saga_of_ashtabula_train_disast.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 21, 20178 yr The Dinkey and The Interurban in Delaware An Exhibit of the Delaware County Historical Society at The Meeker Homestead Museum on Sundays 2pm – 5pm The people of Delaware County have always been on the move. At first, on foot, on horseback, on buggies, and wagons. Later moving by stage coach, on bicycle, and on Trains. Then came Street Cars and the Interurban. Delaware had railroads since the 1850’s, for hauling freight and passengers to across the country. Local transportation, however, was strictly horse and buggy. Just before the turn of the century it would take 16 hours to travel by stage coach from Columbus to Delaware and not a very pleasant trip. In 1892, The City of Delaware introduced an electric railway passenger service providing a good portion of the City with the Streetcars, some called them “Dinkeys”. In 1903, Delaware gained an accessible transportation line to Columbus and Marion called Columbus, Delaware & Marion Railway (C.D. & M.), an electrically run Interurban rail line. Come visit an exciting era in the growth of Central Ohio through display photographs, newspaper articles, and other archived items from the Delaware County Historical Society’s collection along with additional loaned artifacts. Some of the exhibit items have not been seen for nearly 100 years. Step into a very progressive time-period, for the country and for Delaware County. This is important time, worthy of a visit to understand how Delaware City and County developed. The Meeker Homestead Museum is located at 2690 Stratford Road, Delaware near the intersection of US 23, SR 315 and the recently constructed access road Meeker Way (Map and Directions). Admission to the museum is free, but a donation of $5 to support operating costs is suggested. Docents will be available to lead guided tours and answer questions. www.delawareohiohistory.org
April 30, 20196 yr A nice article (with pictures) on the restored Age of Steam Roundhouse in Sugarcreek (Tuscarawas County). https://expo.cleveland.com/life-and-culture/g66l-2019/04/fa6c62a0d31329/sugarcreeks-impressive-age-of-steam-roundhouse-with-dozens-of-historic-locomotives-opens-for-tours.html When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
December 2, 20195 yr Train lover's nirvana to host Christmas events, unveil historic car said to be used by JFK (photos) Lots of great pix w this article. https://www.cleveland.com/life-and-culture/g66l-2019/11/77ec38adc64939/train-lovers-nirvana-to-host-christmas-events-unveil-historic-car-said-to-be-used-by-jfk-photos.html MIDWEST RAILWAY PRESERVATION SOCIETY OPEN HOUSE When: 1-7 p.m. Saturday; 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. Sunday; 4-9 p.m. Saturday Dec. 7 and 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. Sunday Dec. 8. Where: 2800 West Third Street, Cleveland. Admission: $10, adults; $5, kids age 4 to 11; free for kids under 4. Info: Go to midwestrailway.org or call 216-781-3629. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
January 9, 20205 yr Love this photo. It's just south of Peninsula at Deep Rock Quarry, where you can ride the CVSR or your bike or just walk to it from the nearby parking lot. This is actually a postcard showing Baltimore & Ohio train No. 10 flying over the Peninsula deck girder bridge circa 1909. No. 10 was a daily train that ran express from Cleveland's CT&V station (Canal & Carter roads) to Akron Howard Street station (site of the current CVSR depot) in one hour, 110 years ago. There were several local passenger trains on the line that made more stops. In #10's consist are through coaches and a Pullman sleeping car to Washington DC. Looks like the locomotive is B&O 4-4-0 890. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 17, 20205 yr I'm on my phone so can't post this to the same standard that most articles are posted but here you go anyways. https://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/butler-county/hamilton/plan-to-save-historic-hamilton-train-station-in-the-works I think they should really try to keep it and repurpose it.
April 17, 20205 yr ^^That pic it says is between Boston and Peninsula. I believe the photographer. Just north of Peninsula is a bridge crossing the Cuyahoga at about that height and that gentle of a curve. Still a great picture. Will have to take a pic next time I’m going by there. For reference, this is by the culvert tunnel on the towpath that goes under the railroad that people like to scream in on their bikes.
April 17, 20205 yr 9 hours ago, Cincy_Travels said: I'm on my phone so can't post this to the same standard that most articles are posted but here you go anyways. https://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/butler-county/hamilton/plan-to-save-historic-hamilton-train-station-in-the-works I think they should really try to keep it and repurpose it. I hope they do too. It was the station stop on Amtrak's Cardinal until about 15 years ago. Low ridership, poor condition of the station and bad neighborhood doomed the stop. 8 hours ago, audidave said: ^^That pic it says is between Boston and Peninsula. I believe the photographer. Just north of Peninsula is a bridge crossing the Cuyahoga at about that height and that gentle of a curve. Still a great picture. Will have to take a pic next time I’m going by there. For reference, this is by the culvert tunnel on the towpath that goes under the railroad that people like to scream in on their bikes. Yep. Deep Rock Quarry is between Boston and Peninsula. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 17, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, KJP said: Yep. Deep Rock Quarry is between Boston and Peninsula. I can see why you might think it is south of Peninsula as there is a crossing of the Cuyahoga there at the former Par 3 Brandywine golf course over to Deep Lock Quarry which oddly is a Summit Metropark completely surrounded by the Cuyahoga Valley National Park. Boston Mills is north of Peninsula. Everett and deep lock quarry are south of Peninsula. https://www.summitmetroparks.org/MetroParks/media/pdfs/maps/MAP-Deep-Lock-Quarry-WEB.pdf
April 17, 20205 yr Oops! Thanks. I got geographically turned around inside my head! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 28, 20205 yr The old Glenwillow train depot, on the active freight line from Bedford to Twinsburg to Kent, is being moved across the tracks into the nice little park on the south side of Pettibone. (I see the Cleveland Commercial Railroad locomotive frequently parked just to the north on a siding of this line.) My understanding is they are renovating the building and adding restrooms. It should be a nice addition. It is also close to the Tinker’s Creek trail if any of you bikers want a destination. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
May 1, 20214 yr Saving Hamilton’s historic CSX station would cost $600,000. A vote will come soon on whether to do it https://www.journal-news.com/news/saving-hamiltons-historic-csx-station-would-cost-600000-a-vote-will-come-soon-on-whether-to-do-it/EMFTBGCWSFDYZJOCVWA7NSHI5Y/?fbclid=IwAR1pfoW55F_dx8se9YQTpIS8yAkAR-5rimM6HUL1weg6JHTFxW-vmnbQNmc It will cost $600,000 to move Hamilton’s historic CSX station along Martin Luther King Boulevard and set it up, City Manager Joshua Smith told council members Wednesday. That $600,000 spending by the city would not include the later costs of rehabbing the station’s two buildings so they could be brought back to use for something, perhaps an Amtrak passenger station, Smith said. The city hopes to receive grants and donations from the public to lower city government’s costs. Smith told council CSX has given Hamilton until March 31, 2022 to move the station or see it demolished. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
May 1, 20214 yr The station moved to that location cannot be used by Amtrak for its existing or planned services. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 20, 20213 yr Not Ohio specifically but check out this old gem I stumbled across - Johnny Cash telling the story of American railroads through narration and old folk songs, quite cool. (Not sure why the thumbnail says Johnny Carson, somebody messed up lol it's Johnny Cash) Edited October 20, 20213 yr by mu2010
October 9, 20222 yr Northeast Ohio rail foamers, here’s a treat you may want to check out. I was driving through Glenwillow today and I noticed a couple passenger rail cars sitting there, so I went in for a closer look. Apparently this is a charter company that hosts private parties in the rail cars. Charter Steel is hosting customers and these cars will be parked here for three weeks. They don’t actually do any intercity service, apparently it’s only for private parties on location. These rail cars are based out of Milwaukee where they are normally parked at the intermodal station. The last stop was in Pontiac and they usually get moved by freight rail, in this case Wheeling and Ohio. Sometimes they go via Amtrak, but apparently Amtrak won’t drop them off at Cleveland’s station. If you want to check it out, this is on Pettibone Road between 271 and SOM Center, just south of the Solon industrial area. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
October 10, 20222 yr Cool. They used to drop them off at Cleveland station and they would sit on Track 44 (the track between the mainline tracks and the RTA Waterfront Line). But track 44 isn't usable anymore so maybe that's why they're doing this?? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 3, 20232 yr 55 minutes ago, Boomerang_Brian said: These post are just sad. What a waste. Image how good those lines would be now, if they had been used and upgraded over time.
December 2, 20231 yr Cleveland Terminal & Valley Railway Depot: A relic of 19th Century passenger rail travel https://www.freshwatercleveland.com/breaking-ground/Terminal_Valley_masterworks_113023.aspx "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 10, 20241 yr The Roche de Boeuf interurban bridge over the Maumee River south of Waterville, OH is coming down.... https://www.transportation.ohio.gov/projects/projects/107405 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 22, 20241 yr Redirecting the discussion from the Amtrak thread to here. Let's look at the New York Central's Chicago-New York City mainline, especially the passenger infrastructure and what happened to it.... Albany NY 1960 Same spot in October 2022 -- now the trains stop at a station across the Hudson River in Rensselaer, forcing riders heading to state capital offices to get a taxi/uber/lyft rather than walk. But the old New York Central station in downtown Albany still stands... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 22, 20241 yr Syracuse NY New York Central station built and financed by the stockholder-owned railroad company (no government money) on a new passenger-only right of way through the city in 1936. The two historic photos show it nearly completed. The government was responsible for what replaced it (shown in March 2020 view) although the station building and one platform remains. Can you spot the lone platform? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 22, 20241 yr Looking east at Batavia, NY, just east of Buffalo, we have scars on the landscape and 2-3 tracks of a lone mainline railroad remaining. This is the approximate area where, in 1893, New York Central locomotive #999 hauled the Empire State Express at a then-world record speed of 112.5 mph. It held that record for a decade (beaten by a 127 mph Pennsylvania Railroad passenger train on its own Chicago-New York City mainline across western Ohio). America was leading the world in high-speed rail. New York Central was still feeling frisky enough in the 1950s that it built a four-track, grade-separated bypass around the south side of Batavia with a two-platform, grade-separated passenger station on it. That mainline was built in addition to the New York Central's parallel, two-track, West Shore Line at left and the two-track Lackawanna RR mainline at far right. Why mention the Lackawanna too? Because it ran to New York City via Scranton and was part of another parallel Chicago-New York City operation offered in partnership with the Nickel Plate RR at Buffalo (west to Cleveland, Bellevue, Fort Wayne and Chicago). Both the Lackawanna and the Nickel Plate were well-designed fast railroads in their own right, with the Lackawanna building in the 1910s faster, all-new rights of way through the rugged terrain of Northeast Pennsylvania and Northwest New Jersey to offer fast passenger and freight trains. It featured massive viaducts, tunnels, long straightaways and gentle curves. That 100-plus-year-old right of way could easily accommodate 100 mph trains today. But, as you can see, the Lackawanna is gone here, as it is substantially downgraded or abandoned in Pennsylvania and New Jersey. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 29, 20241 yr All were terrible losses. We'd be well served to put all that back. It's essentially what we have to do to make up for years of disinvestment.
March 12, 20241 yr ^ while not on that scale there is supposed to be remaining lackawanna cutoff line njtransit service extended to andover by 2026. i think they threw in and also got uncle joe $ to restore an old train tunnel near there recently and other work, but it will need a new station. eventually this line would be extended to scranton. that ne part of pennsylvania has advocated to restore a scranton commuter route for a long time, but to date its been in vain, so an andover service would go a long way to help turn up some heat for that. yeah its all sad, but at least its something in the works.
March 12, 20241 yr ^ also, njtransit has bought back lackawanna cutoff rights for the abandoned row from private owners. service stopped in 1979 and the tracks were pulled in 1984. however, they are laying new track to andover lately. https://newjersey.news12.com/work-underway-on-rail-station-for-sussex-county-commuters https://www.njspotlightnews.org/video/work-underway-to-expand-nj-transit-service-in-sussex-county/ roseville tunnel hayday
March 12, 20241 yr ^ more trivia? you can’t help but notice from above the lackawanna advertized using anthracite coal, which seems awkward, but it is the hardest and cleanest coal vs ordinary bitumonous coal. that’s why their mascot phoebe snow could ride wearing white clothes (you might also recall that mascot via the 1970s jewish singer phoebe laub who took that as a stage name — phoebe snow). there were a lot of charming olde ads to ride the lackawanna like below. my (cle) friend lives right by the old vestal station, which is a museum today. maybe someday after it ever gets to scranton they will next bring the train back up to vestal & bing’n and beyond … ?? https://www.vestalmuseum.org
May 22, 20241 yr Dayton Union Station circa 1950. Only the 2 outside tracks, the freight bypass tracks, and the station platforms minus canopies remain. Back then, this station saw about 50 daily passenger trains and twice as many freight trains. Now it sees only about 50 daily freights and no regular passenger service since 1979. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 23, 2024Jun 23 Tomorrow (Sunday): Midwest Railway preservation society is doing a tour at the B&O roundhouse at Clark Yard tomorrow 11-4. This would be right by the bridge where CVSR would go over the river if extended to downtown. There is a fee and apparently they are offering short rides on Pullman rail cars. https://facebook.com/events/s/tour-clevelands-historic-bo-ro/1445230226359531/ 2800 W 3rd St, Cleveland, OH 44113-2516, United States https://midwestrailway.org/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2txcvdAPjYysEEUj1UO0YYr3gSAXCGX_p0gwKIiXWg0hZR8Ns6FPwU0Rs_aem_JJq30Gec07vc4MZIUMLv4A When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
August 28, 2024Aug 28 The videos from Railroad Street are of outstanding quality. Does anyone know this person? They must be local to northeast Ohio just based on the content they feature. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
August 28, 2024Aug 28 29 minutes ago, Boomerang_Brian said: The videos from Railroad Street are of outstanding quality. Does anyone know this person? They must be local to northeast Ohio just based on the content they feature. I've always assumed they're on here every day haha
September 20, 2024Sep 20 Medina's Interurban building moved Sara Crawford - The Gazette Sep 20, 2024 MEDINA — Medina city staff and contractors moved Medina's Interurban building 30 to 40 feet over from its most recent location on Thursday morning to avoid potential damage during the construction of the Legacy Hotel. The Interurban building sat directly in front of where the Legacy Hotel will be built on South Court Street. To avoid any potential damage, city officials decided to move the building to the Feckley lot, just south of the building’s most recent location. ... The Interurban building was once part of the Cleveland Southwestern Electric Railway, often known as the Interurban, which reached Medina in 1897. The building was originally just north of Medina on U.S. 42, near the current entrance to Stonegate Drive. https://medina-gazette.com/news/404453/medinas-interurban-building-moved/
September 22, 2024Sep 22 On 10/9/2022 at 5:15 PM, Boomerang_Brian said: Northeast Ohio rail foamers, here’s a treat you may want to check out. I was driving through Glenwillow today and I noticed a couple passenger rail cars sitting there, so I went in for a closer look. Apparently this is a charter company that hosts private parties in the rail cars. Charter Steel is hosting customers and these cars will be parked here for three weeks. They don’t actually do any intercity service, apparently it’s only for private parties on location. These rail cars are based out of Milwaukee where they are normally parked at the intermodal station. The last stop was in Pontiac and they usually get moved by freight rail, in this case Wheeling and Ohio. Sometimes they go via Amtrak, but apparently Amtrak won’t drop them off at Cleveland’s station. If you want to check it out, this is on Pettibone Road between 271 and SOM Center, just south of the Solon industrial area. These beauties are in Glenwillow again - where Pettibone crosses the railroad tracks When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
September 22, 2024Sep 22 Charter Steel is headquartered in Milwaukee but has a large plant in Cuyahoga Heights. So the execs often travel back and forth to Cleveland on those private cars. But I don't understand why they're in Glen Willow. Maybe they're looking to invest nearby? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 22, 2024Sep 22 4 minutes ago, KJP said: Charter Steel is headquartered in Milwaukee but has a large plant in Cuyahoga Heights. So the execs often travel back and forth to Cleveland on those private cars. But I don't understand why they're in Glen Willow. Maybe they're looking to invest nearby? No, they’ve been parked there at least 4 times over the last few years. W&LE delivers them to the area, which makes the location logical. It’s double tracked right there and Glenwillow has a cute little downtown. Also, I saw these cars parked just outside the Amtrack station in Milwaukee last time I was up there. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
September 22, 2024Sep 22 But why are they threre? Perhaps they have a potential customer nearby? They aren't available for charter. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 22, 2024Sep 22 19 minutes ago, KJP said: But why are they threre? Perhaps they have a potential customer nearby? They aren't available for charter. Yes, they bring the rail cars here to host customers. The first time I saw them I stopped and took some pictures. I talked to the one person who was there - he was a chef who worked exclusively on those vehicles. Charter steel has them moved around to host customer visits. I wrote more details about it in my original post above. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
March 2Mar 2 Great historic video of the Columbus, Delaware, and Marion interurban railway When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
May 24May 24 I wish this museum was in Cleveland. https://fox8.com/news/trolley-rides-return-at-northern-ohio-railway-museum/?fbclid=IwY2xjawKe-gBleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFVRjQ3UTFldjVMVEJEdlJ1AR6W3tXJYB7XGhtq9mRu0M7g_u-aAJWJqvcc2_1toES19ZMavW7cB5vsHqUfgA_aem_BaNyb7olW9PR976ad6OLrQ
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