Posted July 16, 201014 yr This is a thread for anyone who has a quick random question about Cleveland and didn't know where to ask it. You can ask about anything you want. Ill start it off with a question. What are Clevelands biggest attractions? By that i mean which attractions bring in the most tourists or visitors annually? EDITED: Okay so far we have.. Cleveland Horseshoe Casino - 2,000,000 in first four to five months. Quicken Loans Arena- 2,000,000 Progressive Field - 1,840,835 Cleveland Metroparks Zoo - 1,190,000 Playhouse Square - 1,000,000 Cleveland Browns Stadium - 526,874 The Cleveland Museum of Art - *500,000 ish Rock and Roll Hall of Fame - 477,800 The Great Lakes Science Center - *300,000 The Cleveland Museum of Natural History - 270,000 Severance Hall - 255,173
July 16, 201014 yr Assumedly the RRHOF, the Science Center, the Zoo, the Art Museum and Natural History Museum. I don't know that sporting events or theatrical productions count as attractions, but those bring in a lot of visitors as well.
July 16, 201014 yr Author Assumedly the RRHOF, the Science Center, the Zoo, the Art Museum and Natural History Museum. I don't know that sporting events or theatrical productions count as attractions, but those bring in a lot of visitors as well. I know that playhouse square brings in about 1,000,000 people a year, and i think the art museum brings in around 500,000 maybe a little more or less. And i think ive heard the science center is around 300,000. So does the Zoo or RRHOF bring in more? And do you know the Natural History Museums numbers?
July 16, 201014 yr This is what Crain's Book of Lists- 2010 tells us. Their geography apparently includes points west including Sandusky. Obviously, venues that host multiple events and park systems have a leg-up in the numbers race: Largest Leisure Attractions (ranked by 2008 attendance) 1. Cleveland Metroparks- 19,559,861 2. Metro Parks serving Summit County- 4,500,000 3. Cedar Point- 3,198,000 4. Lorain County Metroparks- 2,600,000 5. Lake Metroparks- 2,280,000 6. Quicken Loans Arena- 2,000,000 7. Nautica Entertainment Complex- 1,800,000 8. Kalahari Resort & Convention Center- 1,400,000 My guess is that Positively Cleveland would have the numbers you are looking for.
July 16, 201014 yr Author This is what Crain's Book of Lists- 2010 tells us. Their geography apparently includes points west including Sandusky. Obviously, venues that host multiple events and park systems have a leg-up in the numbers race: Largest Leisure Attractions (ranked by 2008 attendance) 1. Cleveland Metroparks- 19,559,861 2. Metro Parks serving Summit County- 4,500,000 3. Cedar Point- 3,198,000 4. Lorain County Metroparks- 2,600,000 5. Lake Metroparks- 2,280,000 6. Quicken Loans Arena- 2,000,000 7. Nautica Entertainment Complex- 1,800,000 8. Kalahari Resort & Convention Center- 1,400,000 My guess is that Positively Cleveland would have the numbers you are looking for. I couldn't find the information on there website
July 16, 201014 yr Cleveland Metroparks Zoo saw 1.19 million - http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2010/01/zoos_in_akron_cleveland_are_ro.html
July 16, 201014 yr The Cleveland Museum of Natural History has an average of 270,000 visitors annually http://ohio-travel.suite101.com/article.cfm/cleveland-ohio-attractions
July 16, 201014 yr Author Okay so far we have.. Quicken Loans Arena- 2,000,000 Cleveland Metroparks Zoo - 1,190,000 Playhouse Square - 1,000,000 The Cleveland Museum of Art - *500,000 ish The Great Lakes Science Center - *300,000 The Cleveland Museum of Natural History - 270,000 Severance Hall - 255,173
July 16, 201014 yr Author Playhouse Square gets about 4 million a year also Its only 1 million http://www.playhousesquare.org/default.asp?playhousesquare=16&urlkeyword=About-PlayhouseSquare
July 16, 201014 yr Severance Hall: Cleveland Orchestra paid attendance 129,173 Educational Family Concerts 60,000 Rental Events 66,000 Total: 255,173 Cleveland Orchestra Free Concerts 70,000 (est) Blossom Cleveland Orchestra 93,560 Blossom Live Nation 204,678 Total Blossom: 298,238 All numbers for 2009 http://www.clevelandorchestra.com/ClevelandOrchestra/media/pdfs/Annual-Report.pdf (page 6)
July 16, 201014 yr Rock Hall 2009 attendance = 477,800 http://rockhall.com/media/assets/files/2009_Annual_Report.pdf (page 3, 3rd column)
July 16, 201014 yr I have a quick question...Is there anymore Cleveland ballet or opportunity to see ballet here anymore. I thought it folded? Anyone know?
July 16, 201014 yr I have a quick question...Is there anymore Cleveland ballet or opportunity to see ballet here anymore. I thought it folded? Anyone know? It sort of folded and sort of moved to San Jose. http://ech.cwru.edu/ech-cgi/article.pl?id=CB2
July 16, 201014 yr So what are new opportunities for seeing it other than holiday shows? None that I know of. And if there are any, my wife would be interested in finding out, as she loves going to the ballet.
July 16, 201014 yr There are a variety of excellent dance groups in Cleveland, but none of them strictly ballet. Akron has this: http://www.ballettheatreohio.org/
July 16, 201014 yr Thanks. Anyone know why the ballet moved to San Jose? My sisters live there and it is rather bland.
July 17, 201014 yr Thanks. Anyone know why the ballet moved to San Jose? My sisters live there and it is rather bland. The ballet had been splitting its time between Cleveland and San Jose since the mid-eighties, but there were financial difficulties on the Cleveland side in 2000, so it stopped operating here.
July 18, 201014 yr The ballet had some terrible financial problems, it was a huge mess. Some say they were financially mis-managed, some say it's just because nobody was going except once a year for the Nutcracker and that's not enough to keep a company afloat.
July 18, 201014 yr The ballet had some terrible financial problems, it was a huge mess. Some say they were financially mis-managed, some say it's just because nobody was going except once a year for the Nutcracker and that's not enough to keep a company afloat. That an poor programming and not enough youth oriented programs to bring up the next generation of ballet dancers or patrons.
July 19, 201014 yr 2 Questions: 1. Why is it illegal to park on Lennox Ave in Cleveland Heights between 3am-6am on a Saturday night? Yes, I got a parking ticket. 2. Why is the envelope that is provided with the parking ticket addressed to Cincinnati in order to pay Cleveland Heights?
July 19, 201014 yr 2 Questions: 1. Why is it illegal to park on Lennox Ave in Cleveland Heights between 3am-6am on a Saturday night? Yes, I got a parking ticket. 2. Why is the envelope that is provided with the parking ticket addressed to Cincinnati in order to pay Cleveland Heights? 1. No on-street parking except for a few, select streets. And those streets require parking permits. Next time find a meter in the back of that garage or the big city lot. Some of the meters are 2 hrs. for 0.25 last I checked. Just load up 8-10 hours of time. 2. Not sure. Probably has to do with outsourcing the payment of tickets.
July 19, 201014 yr 1. Other than the certain defined roads, you cannot park on the street anywhere in Cleveland Hts past 2 a.m., regardless of day of the week. 3 a.m. in a few circumstances. It allows the roads to be plowed, swept, etc. without worrying about parked cars. There is a noticeable difference in cleanliness for cities that don't have those rules IMO (e.g. Philly). 2. Don't know, but probably just a pay processing center. Cleveland Heights hands out too many tickets for the clerk of courts to process all the mail-ins :) I would guess that many municipalities probably use the same service to increase revenue by not having to have government employees perform those tasks.
July 19, 201014 yr 1. Other than the certain defined roads, you cannot park on the street anywhere in Cleveland Hts past 2 a.m., regardless of day of the week. 3 a.m. in a few circumstances. It allows the roads to be plowed, swept, etc. without worrying about parked cars. There is a noticeable difference in cleanliness for cities that don't have those rules IMO (e.g. Philly). 2. Don't know, but probably just a pay processing center. Cleveland Heights hands out too many tickets for the clerk of courts to process all the mail-ins :) I would guess that many municipalities probably use the same service to increase revenue by not having to have government employees perform those tasks. My guess is that is not so they can plow/sweep streets. I'd say number one is that the City feels there is a negative stigma to having cars parked on the street overnight (i.e. "ooh, look at us, we're CH, we have such a nice community we don't want to ruin the image of our city by people parking crappy cars on there streets overnight" blah blah blah). Number two is that it is clearly a revenue center for the city to issue parking tickets.
July 19, 201014 yr It's not just a Cleveland Heights thing. Shaker has the same laws too. So does South Euclid, Lyndhurst, Beachwood, etc. I'm not sure of that foreign land on the other side of the Cuyahoga, but I know of no east-side suburbs that DO allow parking on the streets after 2 a.m.? (except maybe EC). Regardless, I don't follow your logic. Why would Cleveland Hts. want the "crappy cars" on the street during the day, but not the night? And by that line of reasoning, wouldn't it stand to reason that Beachwood would allow their residents park on the street to show off the 'Beamers' and 'Benzes' and demonstrate what a nive community they have?
July 19, 201014 yr Hts121, it's pretty much a rule in suburbs throughout the country. I think the rationale is that there are less cars parked on the street when overnight parking is not allowed, and that less cars parked on the street is "a good thing" for some reason to most suburbanites. Keep in mind that many of these laws go back to the days when the inner rings were considered outer suburbs, and once these laws are in place and generating revenue for a city, it's very hard to get them off the books. I personally think the overnight parking bans are garbage and would like to see them abolished, but I doubt that will happen any time soon.
July 19, 201014 yr It's not just a Cleveland Heights thing. Shaker has the same laws too. So does South Euclid, Lyndhurst, Beachwood, etc. I'm not sure of that foreign land on the other side of the Cuyahoga, but I know of no east-side suburbs that DO allow parking on the streets after 2 a.m.? (except maybe EC). Regardless, I don't follow your logic. Why would Cleveland Hts. want the "crappy cars" on the street during the day, but not the night? And by that line of reasoning, wouldn't it stand to reason that Beachwood would allow their residents park on the street to show off the 'Beamers' and 'Benzes' and demonstrate what a nive community they have? Good point. But am I wrong that I think there is a negative stigma to parking cars on the street overnight? I don't know where I got that from. Either way, I'd certainly argue that they are more interested in the revenue they make off of tickets and parking permits than having clear streets for plowing and sweeping. I lived on Lennox for 6 years and paid my fair share to the city coffers in parking permit fees and the occasional ticket if I wasn't parked in a permit spot (not that I'm complaining, I loved living there). The Cedar/Fairmount area has between 250-300 permit spaces. That's over $7,500 per month. And there are other parking lots throughout the City.
July 19, 201014 yr Yes, it is a revenue generator, but CH has an operating budget of over $50 mill. A couple thousand bucks is not going to make THAT big of a difference. I still think it is mainly a maintenance issue, but it also discourages blight as you noted. For example, people can't leave the cars they never drive out in front of their house (think how Nick Nolte stashed Eddie Murphy's Porsche in 'Another 48 Hours').
July 19, 201014 yr Have you ever seen (or heard) a street sweeper at 3 am? I have only seen them during the day. I suppose that doesn't mean they don't sweep at night. Plowing could be covered by Emergency Snow Streets and tickets for such. I think it's a blight issue, but I also think that's stupid. For the small amount of blight it may save, it sure inconveniences a lot of people.
July 19, 201014 yr I'd guess that it's a quick way of identifying and giving legal justification for removal of immobile cars.
July 19, 201014 yr Have you ever seen (or heard) a street sweeper at 3 am? Yes. I have seen them out in the middle of the night. Although I don't recall ever seeing them on a side street during those hours and, admittedly, it is not a common sight (but street sweepers in general are not a common sight around here). Plows and salt trucks definitely do come in the middle of the night... at least around me they do. But, I'll agree that it is probably more blight than anything else I suppose.
July 20, 201014 yr Author Is the fountain in settlers landing still broken? And if it is are they going to ever consider fixing it?
July 20, 201014 yr I don't know if it is broken, but if it is and based on past precent, I wouldn't hold onto any hope. The City does not have a good track record with bringing broken fountains back on line.
July 20, 201014 yr Author Do you think there is a possibility that Melt Bar and Grilled would ever open a location downtown?
July 20, 201014 yr Lakewood allows overnight parking in most areas I believe. Cleveland Heights should allow overnight parking, at the very least on side streets in the areas that consist mostly of rental units.
July 20, 201014 yr Do you think there is a possibility that Melt Bar and Grilled would ever open a location downtown? If the traffic at the CH location keeps up and Lakewood's business is not dilluted, it wouldn't be a bad idea. Even though it is a really 'heavy' meal, which usually acts as a deterrent for me, I have to admit (after eating there) that its popularity is well deserved. Lakewood allows overnight parking in most areas I believe. Cleveland Heights should allow overnight parking, at the very least on side streets in the areas that consist mostly of rental units. I believe that CH does allow overnight parking in certain parts of the City but you may have to buy a permit to do so. I know in certain areas of the Coventry neighborhood you can park overnight. A buddy of mine rented a unit on Mayfield right near Coventry about 5 years back but did not purchase a space in the back of the building. He was able to park on Mayfield overnight free of charge but, if he was on the north side of the street, had to get up early enough to move the car to the other side of the street before rush hour hit. The cops arrive right when the rush hour parking prohibition starts. And just an FYI, but if you find yourself stuck in CH overnight and need to park on the street, call the non-emergency police dispatch line and they will grant you approval to leave the car out on the street.
July 21, 201014 yr Author Do you think there is a possibility that Melt Bar and Grilled would ever open a location downtown? If the traffic at the CH location keeps up and Lakewood's business is not dilluted, it wouldn't be a bad idea. Even though it is a really 'heavy' meal, which usually acts as a deterrent for me, I have to admit (after eating there) that its popularity is well deserved. I went to the lakewood one on monday at 2:45 and had to wait 45 minutes for a table of two and i saw a group of 6 have to wait an hour to an hour and a half. The food was great though, it was the first time i've been there. Me and my girlfriend plan on going back soon.
July 21, 201014 yr ^ that wait time sounds like it has come down. I know a group of 4 could routinely count on a 1.5-2 hour wait a while back. Maybe the CH location is keeping some of those Eastsiders on their side of the river. ;)
July 21, 201014 yr With their wait times, IMO it would be a DISASTER if they opened downtown. Unless they took a really huge space like that vacant space at rock bottom, so that they could have a big enough kitchen to really crank out the food. Downtown lunch people cannot wait 45 minutes for a table and another 45 for their food.
July 21, 201014 yr Author With their wait times, IMO it would be a DISASTER if they opened downtown. Unless they took a really huge space like that vacant space at rock bottom, so that they could have a big enough kitchen to really crank out the food. Downtown lunch people cannot wait 45 minutes for a table and another 45 for their food. Yeah they would definitely need a large space if they were to ever move downtown, I think for me it took 30 minutes for the food.
July 21, 201014 yr As far as parking on the streets overnight, I've gotten a few tickets for that too but have been able to get out of most of them by calling the police department and telling them that my driveway was getting repaved and I didn't know I couldn't just park on the street. One of those times I was telling the truth.
July 21, 201014 yr As far as parking on the streets overnight, I've gotten a few tickets for that too but have been able to get out of most of them by calling the police department and telling them that my driveway was getting repaved and I didn't know I couldn't just park on the street. One of those times I was telling the truth. ROFLMAO!!
July 21, 201014 yr Have you ever seen (or heard) a street sweeper at 3 am? I have only seen them during the day. I suppose that doesn't mean they don't sweep at night. Plowing could be covered by Emergency Snow Streets and tickets for such. I think it's a blight issue, but I also think that's stupid. For the small amount of blight it may save, it sure inconveniences a lot of people. Actually..... that's really the only time I've ever seen them. Lol. In the middle of the night when there is no traffic out. I rarely see them in the day and I really only see them in Cleveland. I can't remember ever seeing one in the burbs.
July 21, 201014 yr It's not just a Cleveland Heights thing. Shaker has the same laws too. So does South Euclid, Lyndhurst, Beachwood, etc. I'm not sure of that foreign land on the other side of the Cuyahoga, but I know of no east-side suburbs that DO allow parking on the streets after 2 a.m.? (except maybe EC). Regardless, I don't follow your logic. Why would Cleveland Hts. want the "crappy cars" on the street during the day, but not the night? And by that line of reasoning, wouldn't it stand to reason that Beachwood would allow their residents park on the street to show off the 'Beamers' and 'Benzes' and demonstrate what a nive community they have? I live in E.C. and you can't park on my street after 3 a.m. E.C. varies depending on your street. Just like in Cleveland, all night parking is usually in multi-family neighborhoods. Single family neighborhoods usually have the ban after their select time. (2 in those parts of Cleveland. 3 in those parts of E.C.) As for the other burbs, most of there ban's start at either 2 or 3. I think there's one suburb where it doesn't start till 4. I believe its Garfield but not sure. On another note, I believe Solon has a very early ban. I believe you can't park after 1 a.m.
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