Hello,

I am single, 30 something, no kids, no pets. Seeking to live in the happening part of clevland. The job I may take is in Bedford Ohio. Looks like commute is 20 minutes to clevland. Not sure how this equates to traffic. Does this sound about right?

 

The Factors:

1. I want to be with in walking distance, or rail of happening restraunts,bars,clubs,night life. Ladies attractions.

 

2. I am intrested in Urban/Wharehouse style apartments. ( $700 - $1500/month rent). What are the ranges in monthly payment for middle scale to up scale apartments? Am I in the range? Would like a 1300 - 1500 sq/ft.

I am interested in modern feel/Stainless Steel,Wood Floors,Deck or patio,Garage or car port parking with the urban feel. old and new mixed together. Any recommendations on apartments to look at would be great!

looking at Trenton Loft Apartments. But it looks like they don't over covered parking. i.e. Car Park or garage and not sure if they have decks/patio for grilling. Prefer in apartment washer/dryer. Updated style, classy, high end, luxiourous feel.

 

3. I have been looking at the Flats/Whare housedistrict/Little Itally/Shaker square/lakeland/4th ave. Are there other areas you would recommend?

a. Interested in knowing what the diffrences are in with thease areas to each other, cost of living, nightlife,ect..

 

4. I have a car, probably will have 2 cars. Do you have to pay an additional fee at apartment for car parking? I would like a Car port or garage style parking preferably. Gotta love it shoveling the snow off before work.

 

5. Would like to have a patio or deck for outside grilling. Not a must, more of a like category.

6. In clevland apartments can you store and use a out door grill on deck? In michigan we can not.

 

7. Any additional information is appreciated.

Any help is much appreciated.

 

Thanks for your Help!

Tim

Tremont Place Lofts sounds perfect for you except they don't offer covered parking that I'm aware of.  http://www.tremontplacelofts.com/index.htm

 

The Erie Building (condos) downtown seem to fit your bill as well.  One of the units was offered for rent a while ago, but I don't see it listed anymore.  http://www.eriebuilding.com/

 

Some of the Stonebridge apartments on the West Bank of the Flats would probably also work for you.  http://www.stonebridgecleveland.com/

 

You should also look at the Bingham and Bridgeview downtown.  http://www.thebingham.com/  http://1300bridgeview.com/

If you want to live downtown or in any urban environment, parking one car can be a challenge (and an expense), let alone two cars. Many downtown apartments charge extra for parking one car. Outside of downtown you should be able to park your second car on the street, but some communities have overnight parking restrictions or have permit parking.

 

Grilling at apartment complexes can be hit or miss. Some allow it, others don't. My city of Lakewood doesn't allow grilling on balconies, patios or parking decks. So I have a George Foreman Grill.... Oh well.

 

As for specific buildings or areas to cover, tell us what sort of communities and neighborhoods in Michigan you like and we'll try to match it with something here. And when you come to check out a specific building here, walk around the neighborhood to get a feel for it. Don't drive. And ask neighbors about the area, but realizing that their tastes may not be the same as yours. Yet it's still a good idea to hear from the people already living around there. Clevelanders are very friendly -- and opinionated!!

I was going to recommend looking in Detroit shoreway, but from the type of place you want to live and the neighborhood description, Tremont place lofts is where you want to be.

Sounds like Downtown or one of the surrounding neighborhoods (Tremont, Ohio City) will best fit your wants and desires.  To add to the list of places you have checked out, take a look at the Coventry neighborhood in Cleveland Hts.  It has most of what you are looking for except the units are old and generally do not have modern features.  Depending on the building, parking can also be an issue.

 

Too bad the Residences at 668 filled up so quickly as those units are probably right up your alley.

 

One last suggestion would be to look at Park Lane Villa in University Circle. 

 

I would stay away from the west side if you are going to be working in Bedford.  JMO.

 

Good luck!

Move to Shaker Square!  You'll have [glow=red,2,300]fabulous[/glow] neighbors and the drive wont be so bad as from downtown!

Dude, do you get commission on referrals???

 

Yes, Shaker Square is closer, but the reverse-commute drive from downtown should be a piece of cake. For me personally, I do like having a transit route as a back-up to my drive, and you do have that either way -- downtown or Shaker Square to Bedford. You take the Blue Line from either downtown or Shaker Square to Warrensville, then transfer to the #40 bus (runs 20 hours day, every 25 minutes during rush).

 

While most of the buildings in Shaker Square are older, there are some recently updated places that may be worth checking out. Just make sure you mention MyTwoSense if you rent one so he can get his lousy referral.

Dude, do you get commission on referrals???

 

Yes, Shaker Square is closer, but the reverse-commute drive from downtown should be a piece of cake. For me personally, I do like having a transit route as a back-up to my drive, and you do have that either way -- downtown or Shaker Square to Bedford. You take the Blue Line from either downtown or Shaker Square to Warrensville, then transfer to the #40 bus (runs 20 hours day, every 25 minutes during rush).

 

While most of the buildings in Shaker Square are older, there are some recently updated places that may be worth checking out. Just make sure you mention MyTwoSense if you rent one so he can get his lousy referral.

 

He he he.  If I did I'd own my own building in Moreland Courts. 

 

There are new units in the area and over hearing some conversations, seems as some older buildings are starting to redo their kitchens/baths as people want more modern appliances.

Hello,

I am single, 30 something, no kids, no pets. Seeking to live in the happening part of clevland. The job I may take is in Bedford Ohio. Looks like commute is 20 minutes to clevland. Not sure how this equates to traffic. Does this sound about right?

 

The Factors:

1. I want to be with in walking distance, or rail of happening restraunts,bars,clubs,night life. Ladies attractions.

 

2. I am intrested in Urban/Wharehouse style apartments. ( $700 - $1500/month rent). What are the ranges in monthly payment for middle scale to up scale apartments? Am I in the range? Would like a 1300 - 1500 sq/ft.

I am interested in modern feel/Stainless Steel,Wood Floors,Deck or patio,Garage or car port parking with the urban feel. old and new mixed together. Any recommendations on apartments to look at would be great!

looking at Trenton Loft Apartments. But it looks like they don't over covered parking. i.e. Car Park or garage and not sure if they have decks/patio for grilling. Prefer in apartment washer/dryer. Updated style, classy, high end, luxiourous feel.

 

3. I have been looking at the Flats/Whare housedistrict/Little Itally/Shaker square/lakeland/4th ave. Are there other areas you would recommend?

a. Interested in knowing what the diffrences are in with thease areas to each other, cost of living, nightlife,ect..

 

4. I have a car, probably will have 2 cars. Do you have to pay an additional fee at apartment for car parking? I would like a Car port or garage style parking preferably. Gotta love it shoveling the snow off before work.

 

5. Would like to have a patio or deck for outside grilling. Not a must, more of a like category.

6. In clevland apartments can you store and use a out door grill on deck? In michigan we can not.

 

7. Any additional information is appreciated.

Any help is much appreciated.

 

Thanks for your Help!

Tim

 

1)  Coventry (with nearby Little Italy)/ Shaker Square/ Downtown

 

2)  New appliances are a little bit of a challange since many of the places we've mentioned have older (but nice!) apartment buildings.  What comes to mind immediately are Park Lane Villa and Tremont Point Lofts.

 

3) -Flats have stonebridge which has great views of Downtown, young and older professionals, parking $750-$1400

- Warehouse district have Loft style apartments...near clubs and bars...covered parking tough...$800-$2500

- Little Italy, neighborhood feel with heavy italian influence (obviously), many college students live here too, nearby nightlife of Coventry and Little Italy has some on weekends, apartments are generally older houses, great restuarants, 99% chance on no covered parking unless you can get a monthly parking pass in bordering University Circle...$600-$1800

- Shaker Square, eastide neighborhood closest of Bedford, Coventry, Little Italy, University Circle, large older apartment buildings, rail transportation hub, restaurants and neighborhood feel, mix of college students and professionals....$600-$1500

- E.4th -- tiny street Downtown jammed with resturants and bars, known as a nightlife spot, some covered parking...two cars would be tough, street is packed during sporting events and concerts at House of Blues, availibility may be tough, $850-$2000

 

4) Downtown, parking will be at least $80 a month.  Every where else, either parking included (generally not covered) or street/near by parking

 

5) I'd say for patios or decks, you have to look in more of a neighborhood setting -- Tremont, Ohio City, Coventry, Little Italy, Shaker Square

 

6) If the above places, you should have no problem...depending on ownership

 

7) I would recommend highly considering Coventry.  There are some nice 3-4 story midrise apartments (Euclid Hts Blvd) with constant streetlife.  Plus, there are the nearby areas of Little Italy, University Circle, and Shaker Square.  Parking shouldn't be a problem at all (free back lots usually) and your drive to work wouldn't be bad at all.

So MichiganTim have you made any decisions? This thread has been quite helpful to me as I'm in the same boat. Also 30, no kids, and will be moving from Dallas to the Cleveland area with my girlfriend. I will be working in Mentor, does anyone have different suggestions for me? I see Mentor is right at 20miles from downtown, will that be too far in the winter? In Dallas we see snow/ice that sticks maybe 1-2days a year and I've pretty much lived here my whole life so this winter will be quite a shock for me and I'm a bit worried about the daily commute in the winter.

 

I lived in a hi rise in downtown Dallas for a couple years and really liked it and with the prices I am seeing in Cleveland i think i should be able to find something really nice there. Is this East 4th street area a nice place? Seems to have a nice little alley with a lot of restaurants/bars. Although i dont mind traveling to these places as i dont want to deal with the noise all night every night. I have been emailing with a guy i found on Craigslist that will be renting his place at Stonebridge which looks nice.

 

I see Euclid listed on craigslist a lot which is closer to Mentor, is there a lot to do in that town? I think i will be ok with the new city, i just think is going to be quite a shock for my girlfriend and i want to make sure there is plenty to do and that we can find a place that is relatively new inside (appliances, carpet etc..). Thanks for any suggestions guys!

555ctsv -

 

Reverse commuting to Mentor might not be too bad along the East Shoreway (I-90), but I don't have direct experience with that. It is on the snowy side of town, but Mentor won't have quite as much snow as areas inland about 5 or 10 miles (which is called the "Snow Belt")

 

Euclid is a suburb in transition from blue-collar ethnic Catholic to African-American. It isn't the most happening part of town. If you look around University Circle, you will probably be only adding five or ten minutes to your commute each way (you can still get up to the Shoreway quickly), but there's a lot more young people and things to do.

555ctsv -

 

Living downtown would be a good option.  The commute to Mentor isn't bad, although it can get a little congested around the 271/90 interchange.  But certainly better than any traffic you're used to in Dallas.  I've lived in the Stonebridge Plaza building for the last 3 years and have been very happy there, plus you would have quick access to Rt 2 which would take you to work.  E 4th is also a great area; I can't speak to the noise level, but it's certainly not a "late night rowdy" district.  But there's lots to do right outside your door compared to Stonebridge, which is a little more isolated from downtown.

 

I would not suggest moving to Euclid; there's nothing wrong with Euclid, but I think it would be like moving to Plano.  If you want to consider something closer proximity to work, you might want to check out Willoughby.  It has a small downtown area with a bunch of bars/restaurants and I believe there are apartments/townhomes for rent right in the downtown area.  That would be more comparable to something like Addison, but only a smaller scale.

 

These types of threads always kill me.  The original poster hasn't even commented in almost a month and here we all are, bickering away...  "Shaker Heights!  Tremont!  Euclid!  E. 4th!...."  For all we know he's probably still in Michigan but we continue debating all the pro's/cons of each location amongst ourselves...

If any readers have Stonebridge questions, let me know, I live in neighborhood. And shamelessly, I am putting out there our condo will be available for lease soon since we are relocating out of the area.

 

^where are you going?

 

These types of threads always kill me. The original poster hasn't even commented in almost a month and here we all are, bickering away... "Shaker Heights! Tremont! Euclid! E. 4th!...." For all we know he's probably still in Michigan but we continue debating all the pro's/cons of each location amongst ourselves...

read the post 3 above yours

^where are you going?

 

San Diego. Spouse got a job there. will miss the Cleve, but I have also missed a lifetime of living on the coast (in my case east and gulf coast prior to Cleveland).

555 -

My fiance and I live downtown, and he commutes to Mentor every day for work.  He rarely hits traffic - his commute ends up being 30 minutes on average, 45 if there's bad weather.  I think you'll find the Cleveland apartment stock is not great in terms of being completely updated......  Downtown is definitely your best option for high end updates.

Thanks for all of the updates everyone. I'm also surprised MichiganTim hasnt replied to all of the comments yet. Im finding them very helpful.

 

~shs96 did you used to live in DFW? I appreciate the city comparisons :)

 

~peabody99 can you email me some pictures? I'll pm you my email address. How soon would it be available? I plan to leave Dallas the evening of the 26th and would be in the area the morning of the 28th with all my stuff! lol I have arrangements for temporary housing but ideally i'd like a place to call home. New job, new city, i'd just want something constant asap and the extended stay hotels arent ideal. Plus i guess i'd have to put my stuff in storage until i found something, then have to load it all up again and move it to the new location.

 

Am i going to need snow tires in the winter??? I have an all wheel drive suv with mud tires on it but i hear they are really bad on ice and packed snow. My dad is form Dunkirk, NY which is 2 hours northeast and his descriptions of the winters are pretty shocking

Thanks for all of the updates everyone. I'm also surprised MichiganTim hasnt replied to all of the comments yet. Im finding them very helpful.

 

~shs96 did you used to live in DFW? I appreciate the city comparisons :)

 

~peabody99 can you email me some pictures? I'll pm you my email address. How soon would it be available? I plan to leave Dallas the evening of the 26th and would be in the area the morning of the 28th with all my stuff! lol I have arrangements for temporary housing but ideally i'd like a place to call home. New job, new city, i'd just want something constant asap and the extended stay hotels arent ideal. Plus i guess i'd have to put my stuff in storage until i found something, then have to load it all up again and move it to the new location.

 

Am i going to need snow tires in the winter??? I have an all wheel drive suv with mud tires on it but i hear they are really bad on ice and packed snow. My dad is form Dunkirk, NY which is 2 hours northeast and his descriptions of the winters are pretty shocking

 

Snow tires are not required, but some people use them.  Dunkirk, NY gets it way worse than we do because of where it is positioned with respect to the lake.

Quick response, i love it! lol

 

Hey peabody, your PM box is full!! :)

Quick response, i love it! lol

 

Hey peabody, your PM box is full!! :)

I will delete some things and see if that works, I will also send you my email. Can send some pictures, but it will be tonight-working late. It can be available by then, although lol, I will be posted on here for something myself short term.

If you have good, all weather tires, they work fine.  Snow tires handle better, but wear quicker, and since a lot of the winter driving is on cleared or mostly cleared roads, they're not always the best investment. It's not Buffalo here.  Our winters are cold and dark and there is a lot of precip, but if you're a careful driver, you can avoid most problems.  The biggest problem with winter driving here is the increased traffic because of idiots who drive like crap, cause accidents and then cause HUGE backups.  Commuting takes half again as long as it does in the warmer months.

All-weather tires (M+S) are perfectly fine because we have these things called salt trucks and snow plows up here ;).  Driving in bad weather here is not nearly as treacherous as it is down south.  However, I would highly recommend either AWD or front wheel drive for your car.  Rear wheel drive cars have a lot more problems in the snow, especially if they have high horsepower.  Since you are not used to winters/snow, I would also recommend finding a place with covered parking.  You don't want to find yourself in a rush to get to work with you car covered in snow/ice.

 

As mentioned above, you should give Willoughby a look.  It's downtown is becoming more and more popular and lively... even if it doesn't compare to Cleveland's downtown.  It is MUCH closer to Mentor.

Salt trucks?!! Oh man bring on the rust :( Yea when it gets icy out here it's pretty much straight ice. No snow or anything to get grip on so it's pretty scary. I'll check out Willoughby, i did a quick search for it on craigslist and seemed to find the same ad over and over. Anyone have a suggestion for a better place to search besides craigslist?

 

Here's my jeep, its full time AWD so hopefully it'll do fine even with the MT tires. I just hope the rust doesnt tear it up!

 

The thing to remember with AWD is that it will help you get moving in the snow, but it won't help you stop or turn quicker than anyone else.  That's common sense, but judging by the way SUV drivers often drive, they don't seem to realize it.

555ctsv, out of curiosity, what job brings you from Dallas to Ohio?

That's a good point. I see the 4wd trucks flying around the road in the winters in Dallas with that same mentality.

 

Is Beachwood a nice area?

 

Also at one point i was looking into Quay55, anyone have opinions on that property? I have seen many people talk about that one yet.

You have to get your car washed frequently or yes, rust can eventually be a problem, but given that most people aren't keeping cars for 10+ years anymore, it's likely not going to be an issue.

555ctsv, out of curiosity, what job brings you from Dallas to Ohio?

 

Its a project management job in the millwork industry. I've been working in high end millwork since i was a kid. In Dallas i was working for Studio Becker whose cabinets come from Germany, and Clive Christian whose cabinets come from England. Then moved to another company in Dallas wanting to copy the German cabinets in the US which was great for a couple years until they started trying to put me into sales. I have a masters degree in project management and really dont enjoy the volatility of sales positions.

That's a good point. I see the 4wd trucks flying around the road in the winters in Dallas with that same mentality.

 

Is Beachwood a nice area?

 

Also at one point i was looking into Quay55, anyone have opinions on that property? I have seen many people talk about that one yet.

 

Beachwood is a nice area, yes.  It's at the edge of what are considered the inner-ring suburbs.  You have plenty of shopping there. 

 

Also, I had several friends that lived at Quay55.  They all really liked it.  The downside to it is that is that it's not in a walkable neighborhood, but being as you're from Dallas (and excuse my gross generalization of all southern states here), you probably like driving places.  If you'd rather live in more of a walkable neighborhood, downtown would be the best choice.

 

With respect to rust, like it has been stated, just be sure to get your car washed at least once a month at a place that does an underbody wash (like if you move downtown, the best car wash I've found within a 10 minute drive radius is the Giant Eagle Get Go/Wet Go at W. 117th St. and Interstate 90).

Do people get undercoating sprays done still? Im pretty good about keeping it clean so i guess ill just be sure to wash it often.

 

I am used to driving just about everywhere, but if parking is going to be difficult to find i dont mind being able to walk to places. That would actually be a nice change. So from Stonebridge could i walk to any bars/restaurants? It seems to be on the "other side" of the river from the rest of the city

To elaborate on Beachwood, yes, it is perfectly nice, but note that it is very family oriented and post war suburban (i.e., malls, ranch houses, high rises in parking lots), in case that's not what you're looking for.

Do people get undercoating sprays done still? Im pretty good about keeping it clean so i guess ill just be sure to wash it often.

 

I am used to driving just about everywhere, but if parking is going to be difficult to find i dont mind being able to walk to places. That would actually be a nice change. So from Stonebridge could i walk to any bars/restaurants? It seems to be on the "other side" of the river from the rest of the city

 

You can definitely walk to downtown in 10-ish minutes at a brisk pace.  You probably won't have much motivation to do it in the winter, though, lol.

How about E 4th st? I think i may have asked this already? I found a place there that looks pretty good for $900

 

http://cleveland.craigslist.org/apa/1891672489.html

 

How about E 4th st? I think i may have asked this already? I found a place there that looks pretty good for $900

 

http://cleveland.craigslist.org/apa/1891672489.html

 

 

E. 4th St. is one of the hip areas of downtown right now.  It's a great area, lots of restaurants, but not as many bars as the Warehouse District.  If you want lots of options at your doorstep, that is a great choice.  Do you have one car to park or two?

E 4th is also one block from the (LeBron-less) Q, and two blocks from Progressive Field, if you happen to be a sports fan.

Here is my quick take on the few areas you've mentioned...

 

1.  Downtown (If you're at all worried about noise I would suggest living on East 4th and away from the Warehouse District)

    + as soon as you step outside you have top notch restaurants with award winning chefs

    + walking distance to Cavs and Indians

    + walking to Playhouse square, warehouse district, Browns stadium, Tower City amphitheatre, CSU in the non-winter months

    + lively street (not wild and crazy like West 6th street) nearly every night of the week (especially during happy hour/dinner time during the week)

    + public transportation hub nearby (get on the rapid to head to the airport, west side market, little italy, shaker square, etc)

    + drive to/from Mentor against rush hour traffic

    - would have to drive for groceries (not far at all), etc (could walk to CVS)

    - must pay for parking

    - occasionally deal with panhandlers (not aggressive by any means but can get annoying)

 

2.  Quay 55

    + from everything I've heard these are very nice apartments (I know of a few professional athletes who have lived here)

    + fantastic views of the lake with the sunset (if facing the west side) and all the ships/sailboats that are on the lake

    + very quick drive to get on 90/77/71 or a short cab/drive to downtown (~$4-8)

    + covered parking (won't feel the gusts of wind coming off of the lake in the winter)

    + drive to/from Mentor against rush hour traffic

    - have to drive everywhere or cab

   

3.  Beachwood

    + shopping malls nearby

    = much more family oriented area with every store you can think of retail wise

    - have to drive everywhere you go

    +/- quick jump onto I-271 (outer belt) but traffic gets pretty bad during rush hour for being a "suburb"

 

4.  Stonebridge

    + newer contemporary living (live in a condo building and not the apt building)

    + great views of downtown/lake depending on the unit

    + can walk to some dive bars, shooters (better during the day/dinner time), the Powerhouse (howl at the moon), Nautica pavilion (not as big name acts)

    + once the swing bridge opens back up next year you can get a free shuttle ride to sporting events from the Flat Iron Cafe which is right across the river

    + very easy access onto the Shoreway/I-90 which will take you right to Mentor (always drive against rush hour traffic so the commute is the same nearly everyday)

    - will definitely see homeless in the area due to the nearby church giving out food (I live in Stonebridge and none of them have ever caused a problem, just a little depressing to see)

    - have to drive in the winter months

    - walking distance to strip clubs (can be good or bad but there's never been an issue with any of the patrons leaving these establishments)

 

5.  Willoughby

    + VERY short drive to Mentor and back

    + nice little downtown area with a couple bars/restaurants

    = very much a family oriented suburb but not 100% families

 

6.  Tremont, Ohio City, Detroit Shoreway

    + I didn't see you mention these areas but I have to give a shout out to the near west side

    + great restaurants, shops, neighborhood feel

    + much more walkable neighborhoods with population mainly consisting of late 20's and above

 

That was the best I could do for the knowledge I have of the areas.  I know I didn't mention any of the East side neighborhoods (shaker square, little italy, etc) because I'm not as familiar with the areas.  The commutes from downtown/near west side will be in the ~35 minute range depending on where you are going in Mentor. 

 

Good luck and welcome!

How about E 4th st? I think i may have asked this already? I found a place there that looks pretty good for $900

 

http://cleveland.craigslist.org/apa/1891672489.html

 

 

My only concern about E4th would be noise issues.  As you probably know, it's a relatively narrow pedestrian entertainment street with lots of outdoor seating, so it is definitely going to be noisier than a lot of other places.  All depends on your individual tolerance for such things- the E4th residents on these boards seem to love living there.

 

~shs96 did you used to live in DFW? I appreciate the city comparisons :)

 

Yes - I lived in 6 in DFW for 6 years after college.  I'm from Cleveland though and moved back 4 years ago.  If you have any Dallas compared to Cleveland questions, feel free to PM me for my perspective.

 

 

Wow Tradition7, that was perfect! So is Stonebridge in the warehouse district? I havent looked at any of the west side areas as i was worried even downtown was going to be too far. At this point im really thinking about Stonebridge or E 4th st depending on the noise level. I'll keep an eye on Willoughby, its just that everything i have seen there so far looks really dated.

 

 

~shs96  Would E 4th street be similar to West Village in Dallas? There are apartments there and you have taco diner/mi cocina and a few other places with patio seating but the noise level seems to be fairly low to the apartments above

 

 

Here's my jeep, its full time AWD so hopefully it'll do fine even with the MT tires. I just hope the rust doesnt tear it up!

 

 

Vehicles today are much more rust-resistant than they used to be. I fondly remember the 1970s and what cars looked like back then (my memories are fond because I was too young to own a car back then!). It was common to see rusted fenders dangling from the rest of the carbody as it went by.

 

OK -- here's what I tell everyone who moves to Ohio from a southern state.... On the day we have the first snow that covers pavement, take your vehicle to an empty parking lot and practice stopping and starting to see what driving in snow will allow you to do, and not do. It will help you get a feel for driving in snow before getting into traffic.

 

Some tips: drive like your grandmother. Drive slow, start braking well before you think you need to, don't press and hold the brake -- instead tap the brakes, take turns VERY slowly and leave extra room between you and the car in front of you. Remember this rule: it's better to arrive late than not at all. If you are in a hurry before driving out into the snow, do the rest of Cleveland a favor and stay home. If you start sliding, skidding or otherwise losing control, there isn't much you can do except wait for it to stop. The best way to control a slide/skid is to not get into one.

 

And, yes, fear is a healthy first approach to driving in snow. Many people stay off the interstates and stick to local roads in bad storms because the speeds are less and, if you get stuck or into an accident, you can go for help or stay warm while waiting at someone's home or business. On an interstate, you may as well be in Siberia.

 

Remember, when it's gets really bad (like this blizzard in March 2008 -- this is the normally busy seven-lane Clifton Boulevard in Lakewood), just stay home, have a snowball fight with the neighbors, or walk to the store and get some "supplies" until the city gets back on its feet... :)

 

Man looks like fun! But im sure after a month or two of that it gets old. Just like the 104degree weather we've had in Dallas the last 2 weeks. That's a good idea on practicing before jumping on the highways. My dad mentioned that the main highways typically arent too bad as they are plowed regularly. He felt the side streets were more dangerous as they aren't as heavily traveled or plowed. Again his opinions are coming from south of Buffalo NY, so it may be different in Cleveland. I appreciate the input either way!

I love winter until just after New Year's Day, when people start taking down their holiday lighting and things are just gray. But an occasional bad snowstorm breaks the boredom, just as the occasional thaw does.

 

When we have a brief spell in winter without any snow, the sun comes out and temps rise into the 30s or 40s, you will see Cleveland come out from under their blankets en masse. A friend of mine moved from Orlando to Cleveland in the middle of January (now that was a shock as she didn't even have the transition of Fall!), she was amazed to see so many Clevelanders biking, jogging and walking when there was a sunny day in the 30s. She was freezing and thought we all were nuts for being outside. Then we got a wind-driven, four-inch snowfall two days later and she realized why we took that brief opportunity to get out and about.

Quay55 is very nice, right on the water, but it is isolated.  Nothing in walking distance

 

How about E 4th st? I think i may have asked this already? I found a place there that looks pretty good for $900

 

http://cleveland.craigslist.org/apa/1891672489.html

 

 

Paging X, X please pick up a courtesy computer and give the man your 2 cents on your neighborhood.

Wow Tradition7, that was perfect! So is Stonebridge in the warehouse district? I havent looked at any of the west side areas as i was worried even downtown was going to be too far. At this point im really thinking about Stonebridge or E 4th st depending on the noise level. I'll keep an eye on Willoughby, its just that everything i have seen there so far looks really dated.

 

 

~shs96 Would E 4th street be similar to West Village in Dallas? There are apartments there and you have taco diner/mi cocina and a few other places with patio seating but the noise level seems to be fairly low to the apartments above

 

 

No, Stonebridge is in the Flats and noise would never be an issue. Also, living in a near westside neighborhood wouldn't add more than 5 minutes to your commute.

 

On the car topic,  I rarely wash my car in the winter and I have no signs of rust.

 

 

 

I just called 668 Euclid. They have 1) 1-bedroom available at the moment. According to google this place is just down the street from E 4th st. Is this a good place? Its $1120 + $90/car for parking and we'd have 2 cars, so $1,300/mo

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Keep in mind that the picture KJP posted doesn't happen too often, especially at rush hour.  In the 3 years I made a cross commute (2002-2005), I think I only had to drive on snow covered roads maybe 5 times at rush hour.  When we do get snow during rush hour, often times it's cleared very quickly or just not heavy enough to accumulate on our salt drenched roadways.  It's actually fairly rare (like a handful of days per winter) to have to drive on a snow-covered road (unless it's a rarely plowed side street of course, but you're hopefully driving slowly on those anyway).

 

Also, as rust goes, I have had my current car for 6 1/2 years and it has never known the joys of covered parking.  There isn't a hint of rust on it yet.

Wow Tradition7, that was perfect! So is Stonebridge in the warehouse district? I havent looked at any of the west side areas as i was worried even downtown was going to be too far. At this point im really thinking about Stonebridge or E 4th st depending on the noise level. I'll keep an eye on Willoughby, its just that everything i have seen there so far looks really dated.

 

 

~shs96 Would E 4th street be similar to West Village in Dallas? There are apartments there and you have taco diner/mi cocina and a few other places with patio seating but the noise level seems to be fairly low to the apartments above

 

 

Yes, I would say they're relatively similar.  Similar type of crowd although the neighborhood is a little smaller scale (but everything is bigger in Texas I suppose!).  The bars and restaurants are comparable, although the retail aspect is not.

 

I just called 668 Euclid. They have 1) 1-bedroom available at the moment. According to google this place is just down the street from E 4th st. Is this a good place? Its $1120 + $90/car for parking and we'd have 2 cars, so $1,300/mo

 

If i could live anywhere downtown it would be in 668. For me its a great location with no noise issues.