I have been amazed at how many amusement park fans in Ohio (on other websites) were so excited about this buyout by CF. I am not saying CF won't add new things to CP or KI but they will not be pressured by competition to add new attractions as frequently. I really was hoping Busch was the buyer of KI but no luck, for now.

 

If the Columbus Zoo adds a B&M I will buy an annual pass and give up my KI pass. I do think the Columbus Zoo may be on heading down the path to become more like a Busch Gardens, which would be great.

uhhh....B&M (please clarify for us non-amusement park dorks)

Bowel Movement? ;)

B&M is Bollinger & Mabillard which is a rollercoaster company that designs the mercedes benz's of rollercoasters. http://www.bolliger-mabillard.com/index_en.aspx

If the Columbus Zoo goes the Busch Gardens route (which it seems like they are doing), I'll do entire photo threads to Ling Ling pandas and manatees.

I've been on X-Flight a couple of times and I really liked that coaster (the flying part is amazing).........too bad they're sending it down I-71..............nonetheless, I'd recommend it (on the off chance that the ride isn't broken down or something LOL)

 

Maybe CF envisions just having a water park for Geauga Lake..........I hope not!

I never made it to PKI in time to get the season pass discounts, not sure if I want to buy them this year but I am sure I will get pressure from my family.

I agree that competition always yields the best results but if I had to choose between a Cedar Fair owned Kings Island or no Kings Island, I choose the former.

 

Well, Kings Island would've likely have been bought by Busch or Universal or somebody.  So damn you Cedar Fair and your damn pathetic Sandusky headquarters!

^Yeah there is definately NO WAY that KI would cease to exist...being one of the top attended theme parks outside of Florida and all.  The park wasn't purchased because it was struggling and needed to be taken over, but was rather purchased to improve the value of CF and make it a better company.

Well, Kings Island would've likely have been bought by Busch or Universal or somebody. 

 

How cool would that be if Busch had bought Kings Island!  Free beer samples, anyone?  ;)

I will pass on sub-par Anheuser Busch beer piss.  I do find it ironic that Anheuser Busch never built an amusement park or Anheuser Busch themed attraction in St. Louis.  Six Flags St. Louis is one of the worst amusement parks I have been to so it wouldn't be hard to take business away from them.

^It is St. Louis...what do you expect  :laugh:

Be nice...

^It is St. Louis...what do you expect  :laugh:

 

Hey, thats my home.  :x You want to.....internet fight? :-(

 

 

"Six Flags St. Louis is one of the worst amusement parks I have been to so it wouldn't be hard to take business away from them."

 

How would you improve it and/or what didn't you like?

To be honest, everyone in the industry knows Six Flags St. Louis is a "joke" park (except for The Boss, which saves the park).  What I'd improve is A). atleast one other sig coaster and B). perhaps better themeing (it was much better when it was Six Flags Mid-America).

^It is St. Louis...what do you expect :laugh:

 

Hey, thats my home.  :x You want to.....internet fight? :-(

 

You clearly didn't see the laugh face at the end of my post.  But I can throw down in fisticuffs if you would like and introduce you to Jack Johnson and .........(damn I forget the other name).

FireHawk is the name of the new coaster.

Agreed.  That's why I've been against Cedar Fair and Kings Island since...well...time.  Competition breeds innovation and "new rides."

 

Alas.  GO COLUMBUS ZOO!!!  Bring us some B&M!!!

 

 

Wow! I don't believe what I'm reading! Magnum, Raptor, Mantis, Wicked Twister, Millenium Force or Top Thrill Dragster are not innovative coasters? Cedar Point has been, is and always will be known as the roller coaster meca of the amusement park world. Yea, it doesn't have the fancy-shmancy feel of Disney or Universal, but when it comes to coasters, no one beats Cedar Point. Plus, Raptor and Mantis are both B&M coasters. The others are mostly by Intamin AG, which are comparable to B&M. Additionally, CP is getting Maverick this year (http://www.rcdb.com/id3570.htm).

 

You would never see a true coaster enthusiast say these things! Blasphomy!  :-o

Agreed.  That's why I've been against Cedar Fair and Kings Island since...well...time.  Competition breeds innovation and "new rides."

 

Alas.  GO COLUMBUS ZOO!!!  Bring us some B&M!!!

 

 

Wow! I don't believe what I'm reading! Magnum, Raptor, Mantis, Wicked Twister, Millenium Force or Top Thrill Dragster are not innovative coasters? Cedar Point has been, is and always will be known as the roller coaster meca of the amusement park world. Yea, it doesn't have the fancy-shmancy feel of Disney or Universal, but when it comes to coasters, no one beats Cedar Point. Plus, Raptor and Mantis are both B&M coasters. The others are mostly by Intamin AG, which are comparable to B&M. Additionally, CP is getting Maverick this year (http://www.rcdb.com/id3570.htm).

 

You would never see a true coaster enthusiast say these things! Blasphomy!  :-o

 

On the contrary.  Many "true" coaster enthusiasts don't really look for Cedar Point as the "be all, end all" of coaster parks.  Many prefer the fantastic Holiday World, Knoebel's, Kennywood, and even the details of Busch Gardens Europe and Islands of Adventure.

 

As Cedar Point is the "baby" of Cedar Fair, it is likely that other parks will become neglected (much like Valleyfair!, Worlds of Fun, and Dorney Park, which all generally get carbon-copy rides that aren't really "innovative").  Kings Island, when run by Kings Corp, was VERY innovative (The Bat, King Cobra, Vortex, The Beast, etc) and since the takeovers of Paramount and now Cedar Fair, it has run down the tubes. 

 

Lastly, as far as Cedar Point "innovations," most of those aren't innovative.  Magnum pushed the envelope, certainly.  Raptor is awesome, yet wasn't innovative (look for SFGAm for that "history"); Mantis was a lighter version of Riddler's Revenge at SFMM; Wicked Twister was a larger version of Superman at Geauga Lake; Millennium Force was innovative, yes; Top Thrill Dragster was a modified, taller version of the XLC in Kings Dominion.  What Cedar Point does well is marketing, which (perhaps like Disney) make it greater than it actually is.

Cedar Point does coasters great those other parks have great themes, some good rides and admitedly nicer looking parks, but Cedar Point is THE Coaster capital. Those others don't compare in terms of ride quality. Though they need more space to continue this. The quality of Geaugua Lake and KI have faded especially since CF took over. It will be interesting if not down right sad to see what happens with these Periphery parks.

Cedar Point used to be "the" coaster capital until Great Adventure and Magic Mountain stepped their game up.  Great Adventure in particular (with El Toro, Kingda Ka, etc) is going to be interesting in the next couple of years (as Magic Mountain is actually decreasing their coaster capacity).

Where is Great Adventure?

Where is Great Adventure?

 

New Jersey

The quality of Geaugua Lake and KI have faded especially since CF took over. It will be interesting if not down right sad to see what happens with these Periphery parks.

 

Ummm..not real sure where KI has faded in recent years.  Not to mention, CF has had little to no impact thus far seeing as how this is their first off-season to make an impression.  The only hicup that KI has suffered in recent memory is the Son of Beast problems...other than that the park is still considered one of the best around and continually claiming the attendance record for non-year round parks.

 

CF would be out of their mind to try to run KI into the ground..because it would run their company into the ground.  With the purchase of KI...it is now their top dog (albeit CP is the flagship).  KI gets higher attendance, more travelers, and more $$$.

They won't run KI into the ground, Geauga Lake (maybe). But, I do believe we will see less investment in major attractions at both parks in the future. Also, KI I believe will continue to be CF family park and CP will be CF thrill park.

They won't run KI into the ground, Geauga Lake (maybe). But, I do believe we will see less investment in major attractions at both parks in the future. Also, KI I believe will continue to be CF family park and CP will be CF thrill park.

 

Bingo, which is rather pathetic (as KI used to be an innovative park regarding thrill rides).  Oh well, Dora the Explorer for all!

Cedar Point used to be "the" coaster capital until Great Adventure and Magic Mountain stepped their game up.  Great Adventure in particular (with El Toro, Kingda Ka, etc) is going to be interesting in the next couple of years (as Magic Mountain is actually decreasing their coaster capacity).

 

I went to Great Adventure with my kid last year. What in the hell are you talking about? He could give a crap about our turf wars and he even said CP was better. Great Adventure still has a ways to go. There's that park I drove by near the footprint of Mt. Fuji outside of Tokyo...I forget the name...that was on par with CP. :)

The quality of Geaugua Lake and KI have faded especially since CF took over. It will be interesting if not down right sad to see what happens with these Periphery parks.

 

Ummm..not real sure where KI has faded in recent years.  Not to mention, CF has had little to no impact thus far seeing as how this is their first off-season to make an impression.  The only hicup that KI has suffered in recent memory is the Son of Beast problems...other than that the park is still considered one of the best around and continually claiming the attendance record for non-year round parks.

 

CF would be out of their mind to try to run KI into the ground..because it would run their company into the ground.  With the purchase of KI...it is now their top dog (albeit CP is the flagship).  KI gets higher attendance, more travelers, and more $$$.

 

Ummm Rando...you're wrong.

 

Using 2005 figures...which were actually pretty poopy for CP.

 

Kings Island outdrew Cedar Point in attendance by nearly 200,000 visitors last year. But in generating income, Cedar Point had nearly twice the revenue as its counterpart in Cincinnati. The rare financial disclosure was made as Cedar Fair, L.P. made its pitch to borrow up to $1.76 billion to finance the Paramount acquisition and repay previous debt.

 

CP...flagship/top-dog. No debate.

 

 

 

Cedar Point used to be "the" coaster capital until Great Adventure and Magic Mountain stepped their game up.  Great Adventure in particular (with El Toro, Kingda Ka, etc) is going to be interesting in the next couple of years (as Magic Mountain is actually decreasing their coaster capacity).

 

I went to Great Adventure with my kid last year. What in the hell are you talking about? He could give a crap about our turf wars and he even said CP was better. Great Adventure still has a ways to go. There's that park I drove by near the footprint of Mt. Fuji outside of Tokyo...I forget the name...that was on par with CP. :)

 

There's been people that have went to Cedar Point who still say Magic Mountain is better.  Personal stories mean nothing. 

 

Great Adventure used to be "nothing" until it started becoming (what Six Flags in the early 2000's branded) a "ThrillPark" when Medusa, the Chiller thing, El Toro, Kingda Ka, etc were added.  Now that Six Flags management knows that two freakin' 6+ million metros can have their own "Cedar Point," Great Adventure will only get better with time (what's this about a hyper tall coming there next year?).

 

And no, Fujiyama Highlands is NOT on par with Cedar Point.  It may have Steel Force 2000 or whatever but besides that, it's utter crap.

The quality of Geaugua Lake and KI have faded especially since CF took over. It will be interesting if not down right sad to see what happens with these Periphery parks.

 

Ummm..not real sure where KI has faded in recent years.  Not to mention, CF has had little to no impact thus far seeing as how this is their first off-season to make an impression.  The only hicup that KI has suffered in recent memory is the Son of Beast problems...other than that the park is still considered one of the best around and continually claiming the attendance record for non-year round parks.

 

CF would be out of their mind to try to run KI into the ground..because it would run their company into the ground.  With the purchase of KI...it is now their top dog (albeit CP is the flagship).  KI gets higher attendance, more travelers, and more $$$.

 

Ummm Rando...you're wrong.

 

Using 2005 figures...which were actually pretty poopy for CP.

 

Kings Island outdrew Cedar Point in attendance by nearly 200,000 visitors last year. But in generating income, Cedar Point had nearly twice the revenue as its counterpart in Cincinnati. The rare financial disclosure was made as Cedar Fair, L.P. made its pitch to borrow up to $1.76 billion to finance the Paramount acquisition and repay previous debt.

 

CP...flagship/top-dog. No debate.

 

You do realize the reason Cedar Point had "twice the revenue" than Kings Island is the fact there there are two seperate admissions to Soak City USA and the actual park itself correct?  + the fact that the hotel revenue is actually included with the park's assets since, guess what, it's adjacent/arguably in the park.  Thus, of course Cedar Point is going to have more revenue than Kings Island.

 

That's like saying Cleveland 19 Action News is Cleveland's most watched news source (seeing how it has programs at 10 and 11pm).

 

That's like saying Cleveland 19 Action News is Cleveland's most watched news source (seeing how it has programs at 10 and 11pm).

 

How the hell do you know that? You don't even live in Cleveland and you know when the local crappy news is on.

Cedar Point used to be "the" coaster capital until Great Adventure and Magic Mountain stepped their game up.  Great Adventure in particular (with El Toro, Kingda Ka, etc) is going to be interesting in the next couple of years (as Magic Mountain is actually decreasing their coaster capacity).

 

I went to Great Adventure with my kid last year. What in the hell are you talking about? He could give a crap about our turf wars and he even said CP was better. Great Adventure still has a ways to go. There's that park I drove by near the footprint of Mt. Fuji outside of Tokyo...I forget the name...that was on par with CP. :)

 

There's been people that have went to Cedar Point who still say Magic Mountain is better.  Personal stories mean nothing. 

 

Great Adventure used to be "nothing" until it started becoming (what Six Flags in the early 2000's branded) a "ThrillPark" when Medusa, the Chiller thing, El Toro, Kingda Ka, etc were added.  Now that Six Flags management knows that two freakin' 6+ million metros can have their own "Cedar Point," Great Adventure will only get better with time (what's this about a hyper tall coming there next year?).

 

And no, Fujiyama Highlands is NOT on par with Cedar Point.  It may have Steel Force 2000 or whatever but besides that, it's utter crap.

 

Do you feel better now? You don't have to believe me. My kid said it, I never brought up CP and he lives in VA. In 5-10 years...Great Adventure could be up there with CP...we'll see. I can guarantee you, it's not there now.

 

As for Fujiyama....damn there was more stuff in that park in '06 than what I saw at GA in '05. But again, personal stories only matter when crapping on Six Flags St. Louis. :)

The quality of Geaugua Lake and KI have faded especially since CF took over. It will be interesting if not down right sad to see what happens with these Periphery parks.

 

Ummm..not real sure where KI has faded in recent years.  Not to mention, CF has had little to no impact thus far seeing as how this is their first off-season to make an impression.  The only hicup that KI has suffered in recent memory is the Son of Beast problems...other than that the park is still considered one of the best around and continually claiming the attendance record for non-year round parks.

 

CF would be out of their mind to try to run KI into the ground..because it would run their company into the ground.  With the purchase of KI...it is now their top dog (albeit CP is the flagship).  KI gets higher attendance, more travelers, and more $$$.

 

Ummm Rando...you're wrong.

 

Using 2005 figures...which were actually pretty poopy for CP.

 

Kings Island outdrew Cedar Point in attendance by nearly 200,000 visitors last year. But in generating income, Cedar Point had nearly twice the revenue as its counterpart in Cincinnati. The rare financial disclosure was made as Cedar Fair, L.P. made its pitch to borrow up to $1.76 billion to finance the Paramount acquisition and repay previous debt.

 

CP...flagship/top-dog. No debate.

 

You do realize the reason Cedar Point had "twice the revenue" than Kings Island is the fact there there are two seperate admissions to Soak City USA and the actual park itself correct?  + the fact that the hotel revenue is actually included with the park's assets since, guess what, it's adjacent/arguably in the park.  Thus, of course Cedar Point is going to have more revenue than Kings Island.

 

That's like saying Cleveland 19 Action News is Cleveland's most watched news source (seeing how it has programs at 10 and 11pm).

 

Damn ColDay...would you like cheese with that whine. How dare I say KI isn't better than CP.

 

Again, the debate is over. Move on. :)

 

That's like saying Cleveland 19 Action News is Cleveland's most watched news source (seeing how it has programs at 10 and 11pm).

 

How the hell do you know that? You don't even live in Cleveland and you know when the local crappy news is on.

 

A). I'm God.

 

B). We get CLEVELAND ACTION NEWS with Mizz Markita Brown (sp?) here in Columbus, thanks to the wonderful exodus of Clevelanders to Franklin and Delaware Counties.  They always advertise that they are Cleveland's most watched news source (which again, every station with both 10 and 11pm news can claim).

The quality of Geaugua Lake and KI have faded especially since CF took over. It will be interesting if not down right sad to see what happens with these Periphery parks.

 

Ummm..not real sure where KI has faded in recent years.  Not to mention, CF has had little to no impact thus far seeing as how this is their first off-season to make an impression.  The only hicup that KI has suffered in recent memory is the Son of Beast problems...other than that the park is still considered one of the best around and continually claiming the attendance record for non-year round parks.

 

CF would be out of their mind to try to run KI into the ground..because it would run their company into the ground.  With the purchase of KI...it is now their top dog (albeit CP is the flagship).  KI gets higher attendance, more travelers, and more $$$.

 

Ummm Rando...you're wrong.

 

Using 2005 figures...which were actually pretty poopy for CP.

 

Kings Island outdrew Cedar Point in attendance by nearly 200,000 visitors last year. But in generating income, Cedar Point had nearly twice the revenue as its counterpart in Cincinnati. The rare financial disclosure was made as Cedar Fair, L.P. made its pitch to borrow up to $1.76 billion to finance the Paramount acquisition and repay previous debt.

 

CP...flagship/top-dog. No debate.

 

You do realize the reason Cedar Point had "twice the revenue" than Kings Island is the fact there there are two seperate admissions to Soak City USA and the actual park itself correct?  + the fact that the hotel revenue is actually included with the park's assets since, guess what, it's adjacent/arguably in the park.  Thus, of course Cedar Point is going to have more revenue than Kings Island.

 

That's like saying Cleveland 19 Action News is Cleveland's most watched news source (seeing how it has programs at 10 and 11pm).

 

Damn ColDay...would you like cheese with that whine. How dare I say KI isn't better than CP.

 

Again, the debate is over. Move on. :)

 

Not once did I say KI was better than CP, nor vice-versa.  You assume since I'm from Southwest Ohio that I automatically believe that Kings Island > Cedar Point when, in fact, I think that BOTH could be a hell of a lot better than what they are now. 

 

I'm simply bitchslapping folks who are quite ignorant in the amusement park industry and rely other people saying "Gee, I didn't like Fiesta Texas in San Antonio, thus Six Flags St. Louis must be better!"

 

Oy vey.

Cedar Point used to be "the" coaster capital until Great Adventure and Magic Mountain stepped their game up.  Great Adventure in particular (with El Toro, Kingda Ka, etc) is going to be interesting in the next couple of years (as Magic Mountain is actually decreasing their coaster capacity).

 

I went to Great Adventure with my kid last year. What in the hell are you talking about? He could give a crap about our turf wars and he even said CP was better. Great Adventure still has a ways to go. There's that park I drove by near the footprint of Mt. Fuji outside of Tokyo...I forget the name...that was on par with CP. :)

 

There's been people that have went to Cedar Point who still say Magic Mountain is better.  Personal stories mean nothing. 

 

Great Adventure used to be "nothing" until it started becoming (what Six Flags in the early 2000's branded) a "ThrillPark" when Medusa, the Chiller thing, El Toro, Kingda Ka, etc were added.  Now that Six Flags management knows that two freakin' 6+ million metros can have their own "Cedar Point," Great Adventure will only get better with time (what's this about a hyper tall coming there next year?).

 

And no, Fujiyama Highlands is NOT on par with Cedar Point.  It may have Steel Force 2000 or whatever but besides that, it's utter crap.

 

Do you feel better now? You don't have to believe me. My kid said it, I never brought up CP and he lives in VA. In 5-10 years...Great Adventure could be up there with CP...we'll see. I can guarantee you, it's not there now.

 

As for Fujiyama....damn there was more stuff in that park in '06 than what I saw at GA in '05. But again, personal stories only matter when crapping on Six Flags St. Louis. :)

 

Do I feel better now?  That I hear silly personal claims that try to negate the fact that Six Flags Great Adventure is "on its way" of becoming a top coaster park?  Uh, yeah.  Yes, I do feel better now, thanks Sam.

 

Dismissed.

Silly personal claims? Yet you make the same claims when you say that Great Adventure is on par or better than CP. I take it you've been there?

 

Honestly ColDay, you are so paranoid of anything Cleveland/Northern Ohio positive it astounds me. It makes for some great mid afternoon entertainment though. ;)

Why did Geauga Lake lose the coaster anyway?

And since we are on the subject of Ohio's two overrated theme parks (Kings Island and Cedar Point), let's do a "What ColDay Thinks of This Coaster," shall we?  In the spirit of bringing URC over to UO.

 

Cedar Point

 

Blue Streak - A classic, by nature, but the seatbelts and lack of airtime ruin it.

 

Cedar Creek Mine Ride - For a mine ride, not bad (the lake swoosh is nice) but otherwise, boring by mine ride standards.

 

Corkscrew - Innovative for the time, aesthetically pleasing, sh!tty ride.

 

Disaster Transport - I preferred the Avalaunch or Avalanche or whatever they called it.  This one is two fries short of a Space Mountain Kids Meal.

 

Gemini - The best twin coaster on the planet.  Still.

 

Iron Dragon -Iron Draggin is complete and utter trash.  Slow, boring, and two lifts?!?  Dumb.

 

Magnum XL-200 - Oh, Magnum.  You used to be awesome, until those horrendous break runs.  Now you just hurt.

 

Mantis - Chang, down in Kentucky, is better.  But atleast it looks nice.

 

Maverick - Eh, we'll see.  Jury is still out (since it hasn't even been completed yet!)

 

Mean Streak - The single worst mega-wooden coaster out there.  Okay, so The Rattler in SFFT might have something on that...

 

Millennium Force - It's the quickest orgasm you'll ever experience.  Nice, wonderful, awe-inspiring drop...then that's it.  But atleast it has those nifty turns.

 

Raptor - Best inverted coaster in this country.  Still.

 

Top Thrill Dragster - Millennium Force, minus the cool.  But "yay," you get to go like 420 feet in the air.  Whoopdy do.

 

Wicked Twister - Superman (or whatever it was) at Geauga Lake was better.  Atleast that one had hang time.

 

Wildcat - Actually, not THAT bad for a carnival coaster.  But not that good either.  Wish it had more airtime on the bumps.

 

 

Kings Island

 

Adventure Express - Not bad for a mine coaster, though the ending is hilariously bad.  I mean, BAD.

 

The Beast - Oh, how the classics have fallen off.  Like Magnum, the Beast suffers from breakrunitis and I'd wish they'd let the damn trains go!  Oh well...

 

Face/Off - Next.  Utter trash.

 

FireHawk - So they stole X-Flight.  Congrats, Cedar Fair.  You're official moronic.

 

Flight of Fear - Awesome, if the lights were completely out.

 

Italian Job - So, it's theme is nice.  It's got a few nice little twists but this really should be in the Nick Kids section, not taking the former place of Le Cars or whatever.

 

Racer - Again, classic ruined by breakrunitis.  And no, it's not cooler going backward...

 

Son of a B!tch - Well, maybe getting rid of the loop will actually allow for more enjoyable train cars other than being sent to Mercy Hospital.  Maybe.  Just maybe...

 

Top Gun - Short, but sweet.  But again, short. 

 

Vortex - Oy.  First drop, great airtime in the back.  That's about it.  Slow going through the corkscrew and the little helix at the end is just pointless.

 

 

With that said, I'd argue that Geauga Lake has the best coasters in the state (Villain [can we say, airtime?], whatever Superman is called now [hang time, wahoo!], though I hear it's being removed [pity], the Dominator thing [best mutli-looper in the state], and the Big Dipper [a classic that *gasps* fees like a classic]). 

Silly personal claims? Yet you make the same claims when you say that Great Adventure is on par or better than CP. I take it you've been there?

 

Honestly ColDay, you are so paranoid of anything Cleveland/Northern Ohio positive it astounds me. It makes for some great mid afternoon entertainment though. ;)

 

I'M the one paranoid?  Pot, majorly meet the kettle on THAT one.

 

And regarding the SFGAd vs. CP thing, yes I've been to both, and I said that SFGAd is on it's way to taking the title away from Cedar Point.  No clue how Cleveland or Northern Ohio have anything to do with Kingda Ka or Top Thrill Dragster but you keep thinking that, and I'll keep watching Markita Brown.

Why did Geauga Lake lose the coaster anyway?

 

Geauga Lake is a "Family park."  In reality, X-Flight (and the Superman) was probably more expensive to maintain and Geauga Lake isn't pulling KI/CP numbers so it gets the boot.

Silly personal claims? Yet you make the same claims when you say that Great Adventure is on par or better than CP. I take it you've been there?

 

Honestly ColDay, you are so paranoid of anything Cleveland/Northern Ohio positive it astounds me. It makes for some great mid afternoon entertainment though. ;)

 

I'M the one paranoid?  Pot, majorly meet the kettle on THAT one.

 

And regarding the SFGAd vs. CP thing, yes I've been to both, and I said that SFGAd is on it's way to taking the title away from Cedar Point.  No clue how Cleveland or Northern Ohio have anything to do with Kingda Ka or Top Thrill Dragster but you keep thinking that, and I'll keep watching Markita Brown.

 

I don't take silly personal claims in this matter. :laugh:

Silly personal claims? Yet you make the same claims when you say that Great Adventure is on par or better than CP. I take it you've been there?

 

Honestly ColDay, you are so paranoid of anything Cleveland/Northern Ohio positive it astounds me. It makes for some great mid afternoon entertainment though. ;)

 

I'M the one paranoid?  Pot, majorly meet the kettle on THAT one.

 

And regarding the SFGAd vs. CP thing, yes I've been to both, and I said that SFGAd is on it's way to taking the title away from Cedar Point.  No clue how Cleveland or Northern Ohio have anything to do with Kingda Ka or Top Thrill Dragster but you keep thinking that, and I'll keep watching Markita Brown.

 

I don't silly personal claims in this matter. :laugh:

 

Must be the Japanese translator at Fujiyama.  I didn't "get" that one...

Silly personal claims? Yet you make the same claims when you say that Great Adventure is on par or better than CP. I take it you've been there?

 

Honestly ColDay, you are so paranoid of anything Cleveland/Northern Ohio positive it astounds me. It makes for some great mid afternoon entertainment though. ;)

 

I'M the one paranoid?  Pot, majorly meet the kettle on THAT one.

 

And regarding the SFGAd vs. CP thing, yes I've been to both, and I said that SFGAd is on it's way to taking the title away from Cedar Point.  No clue how Cleveland or Northern Ohio have anything to do with Kingda Ka or Top Thrill Dragster but you keep thinking that, and I'll keep watching Markita Brown.

 

I don't silly personal claims in this matter. :laugh:

 

Must be the Japanese translator at Fujiyama.  I didn't "get" that one...

 

Calm down. Jesus, you get all wound up way too fast. :)

You should know by now that I don't get "wound up."  I just sound authoritative because...well...I'm the HNIC.

Understand. Well I'm a whitey from Parma so I really can't "understand". :)

I really disagree on some of your coaster evaluations:

 

examples:

 

Mantis: that is one of the greatest coasters I've ever been on. Incredible

 

Raptor: I like it, but I'm not crazy about it.

 

One thing that really adds to Cedar Point's appeal is its location on the water. Its so cool to look out and see the islands when you're at the top of the coasters. Also, the transient marinas and beaches add to the cool factor.

Anyway...back to topic...

 

Hopefully, they do some themeing with the FireHawk.  It's going behind Flight of Fear, so maybe it'll have a space theme!??!

I really disagree on some of your coaster evaluations:

 

examples:

 

Mantis: that is one of the greatest coasters I've ever been on. Incredible

 

Raptor: I like it, but I'm not crazy about it.

 

One thing that really adds to Cedar Point's appeal is its location on the water. Its so cool to look out and see the islands when you're at the top of the coasters. Also, the transient marinas and beaches add to the cool factor.

 

Well, it's all opinion.  Hell, if everyone agreed that Boulder Dash at Lake Compounce in CT was the greatest wooden coaster ever, then Lake Compounce would be a top-selling park.  It's all about personal preference, much like cities and architecture.

 

I do agree that a major plus to Cedar Point (which perhaps enhances its popularity) is that Lake Erie and Sandusky Bay surround it.  I feel some coasters could've taken advantage of that but they didn't (re: Mean Streak) but, as you said, it's part of the cool factor. In the same sense, Kings Island's foliage and Little Miami River Valley is also adds a "cool" factor of sorts.  Same way with Magic Mountain and the surrounding Valencia Hills...or Wildwood with the coasters actually on the pier, jutting out over the Atlantic.

 

Though, in all honesty, no one touches Ocean Park in Hong Kong in downright jaw-dropping views and coolness.

So how many coasters have you been on ColDayMan and how many coasters have you been on Wimwar? While I believe it is about personal taste, the more coasters you have experienced the better you can compare what coasters are good and bad.