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This appears to be the ROW for the Lake Link Trail, mostly.  So they are splitting some of that off to develop along the trail?

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That's what I thought, but I also thought the Lake Link trail ROW was in public hands or at least owned by LAND Studio. The parcel, 00426025, is huge and crosses Carter Road. It extends from the river at the Columbus Road to just beyond the Lorain-Carnegie bridge where it's not even on the trail anymore. It measures 4.187 acres...

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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Anyone know what this is about?

 

ZONING MAP AMENDMENTS

 

Ordinance No. 77-18(Ward 3/Councilmember McCormack): Changing the Use, Area and Height Districts of parcels in the Flats along the West bank of the Cuyahoga River.

 

Ordinance No. 78-18(Ward 3/Councilmember McCormack; Ward 5/Councilmember Cleveland; Ward 7/Councilmember B. Jones): Changing the Height Districts for the Central Business District and lands along the East Bank of the Flats.

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2018/02022018/index.php

 

The city is slowly rezoning areas along the Towpath/Lake Link trails away from industry/semi-industry to encourage mixed use development. They already rezoned a bunch of industrial land along Walworth Run area -- the flats area intersected by Fairfield, Train, and Scranton avenues. And there were posts a week ago in the Tremont thread about potential rezoning along West 4th.

 

Rezoning the West Bank could coincide with the Lake Link Trail or Jacobs master plan for the Nautica complex (or both). Here is a map of the proposed zoning:

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/mc/pdf/MC2578-Public-Notification.pdf

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Apartment building, 11 floors or taller, proposed for west bank of Cleveland's Flats (photos)

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio – More residential construction could be coming to the west bank of the Flats, where an investor group wants to replace an old industrial building with apartments that could stretch 11 floors or higher.

 

Downtown Ventures LLC has a contract to buy 2208-2210 Superior Viaduct, a two-story building wedged between the old bridge and Washington Avenue. Documents submitted to the City of Cleveland show a 64-unit apartment building on the 0.3-acre site. Those plans won very early approval – a conceptual thumbs-up – from the Cleveland City Planning Commission last week.

 

"There already is some residential momentum in the area," said Daryl Kertesz, a member of Downtown Ventures and a principal at Activity Capital in Woodmere. "We feel that the greater west bank of the Flats is going to be the next frontier."

 

Kertesz wouldn't identify his partners in the project, which would be an ambitious addition to an eclectic neighborhood where the Stonebridge apartments and condos - built before the recent recession - sit near longtime industrial properties, preservation projects, entertainment venues and future outdoor recreation areas

 

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2016/02/apartment_building_11_floors_o.html#incart_river_home

Does anybody know what happened to this project?

Excellent. Thanks!

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I hope they're able to keep that hillside largely intact.  The neighborhood really wanted the hillside to remain as a green ring around the neighborhood, but other developers have started taking chunks out of it, too.

The nice thing about the Carter Road housing project is that the new concrete Carter Road is connected to Canal Road and also the new under construction concrete Scranton Road.  And will be near the future Scranton-Averell, Inc.  projects and the former Forest City land project (EWAT Holdings LLC) that might include a future GREAT LAKES BREWING Expansion project!

 

Forest City Realty Trust sells key Flats land

 

A Scranton peninsula property with views of downtown where Forest City Realty Trust Inc. (NYSE: FCE.A) once discussed launching a 1,500-unit residential complex is the latest property shed by the Cleveland-based real estate developer.

 

Cuyahoga County land records show Forest City on Tuesday, Aug. 1, deeded the 20-acre site to EWAT Holdings LLC, which purchased the property with $5 million in loans.

 

Jesse Grant, a Cleveland-based townhouse developer in Tremont, signed the mortgage on behalf of EWAT. Through various partnerships, Grant has produced several eye-catching townhouse projects, including Tremont Black at West 10th Street and Fairfield Avenue.

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20170804/NEWS/170809868/forest-city-realty-trust-sells-key-flats-land

 

 

 

Great Lakes Brewing Co. is looking at Scranton Peninsula for possible expansion project (photos)

Michelle Jarboe, The Plain Dealer

6-7 minutes

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio - Strapped for space at its longtime home in Ohio City, Great Lakes Brewing Co. is talking about building a second production facility a mile away, on long-barren Scranton Peninsula in the Flats.

 

The homegrown brewery hasn't made any decisions. During an interview, Bill Boor, the company's chief executive officer, said there's no guarantee Great Lakes will pull the trigger on an expansion - regardless of the site. But he confirmed that the company is "very interested" in Scranton Peninsula, where a recent land sale has opened up new development possibilities.

 

http://realestate.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2017/09/great_lakes_brewing_co_is_eyei.html#incart_river_home

 

What's their plan w28th[/member]?

 

10-12 new single family houses. Should be an interesting project.

 

http://www.hortonharper.com/work/carter-road/

 

Is this a Sam McNulty project? I've been told that he is in a partnership with NRP Group for a new development in Ohio City/Duck Island area.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Is this a Sam McNulty project? I've been told that he is in a partnership with NRP Group for a new development in Ohio City/Duck Island area.

 

Brickhaus is the current owners of the new 12 parcels. I assume it'll be a phase of Brickman's Lorain Ave project.

Is this a Sam McNulty project? I've been told that he is in a partnership with NRP Group for a new development in Ohio City/Duck Island area.

 

Brickhaus is the current owners of the new 12 parcels. I assume it'll be a phase of Brickman's Lorain Ave project.

 

Keith Brown is the current owner of the 12 newly split parcels on Carter.

Keith Brown is the current owner of the 12 newly split parcels on Carter.

 

I'm just going off the county GIS, which lists the parcel owners as "BRICKHAUS INTEGRITY OHIO CITY, LLC". Maybe it hasn't been updated yet?

Yeah, hasn’t been updated yet.

Is this a Sam McNulty project? I've been told that he is in a partnership with NRP Group for a new development in Ohio City/Duck Island area.

 

Brickhaus is the current owners of the new 12 parcels. I assume it'll be a phase of Brickman's Lorain Ave project.

 

Keith Brown is the current owner of the 12 newly split parcels on Carter.

 

IIRC, he is the owner of PURE (progressive urban real estate); I recall seeing the name on several parcels throughout ohio city, tremont, DS over the years.

Correct

For those who like their signs world-class....

 

Downtown/Flats Design Review Case Report

 

"BIG HOUSE" SIGN FOR THE FOUNDRY

 

Back Return to Case List | Start Over | Print Report (PDF format)

 

Project Information

 

Downtown/Flats Case #  DF 2018-023

 

Address: 1831 Columbus Road

Company: Brilliant Electric Sign

Architect: Brilliant Electric Sign

Description:

Installation of one (1) 2 ft. 6 in. X 13 ft. - 10 3/4 in. and one (1) 2 ft. 6 in. X 21 - 5 1/2 in. non-illuminated wall signs.

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/brd/detailDR.php?ID=2726&CASE=DF%202018-023

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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it seems like the city is getting active with zoning changes that is good to see

Cuyahoga River to celebrate new achievements for improved public access, aesthetics

Updated 1:00 PM; Posted 1:00 PM

By James F. McCarty, The Plain Dealer [email protected]

 

Jane Goodman, director of the non-profit Cuyahoga River Area of Concern, which raises funds and manages programs and projects on behalf of the river, thinks that's cause for a celebration. The organization will host the event on Saturday, May 5, at 3 p.m., at Merwin's Wharf on the river. It's free and open to the public.

 

"By cleaning up the river and no longer contributing bad stuff, it's allowing our lake to recover," Goodman said. "If you stop poisoning something the patient can recover."

 

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2018/04/cuyahoga_river_to_celebrate_ne.html

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So not really sure how much demolition is slated for this property as part of the Flats South District.  There is a demo request which lists the address as 1900 W 3rd. for 22k sq ft. Although the real estate listing shows it at 30k sq ft.  Wonder if this movement is similar to what's happening across the river at the Thunderbird. Joel Scheer may be preparing this land for market,  cleaning it up and putting up some world class signage.

There is a PDF a few posts back about the project if you need a refresh.

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Wonder why he's razing this building now? It's been on the market for a long time. Is something brewing?

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^While on the Lorain-Carnegie bridge you can see that part of the roof/second floor has collapsed.

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The pictures get more interesting the farther down you go -- and be sure to read the detail of the last image.

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2018/09072018/index.php

 

DOWNTOWN | FLATS DESIGN REVIEW

 

DF2018-068 - 1900-1960 W. 3rd St. Demolition: Seeking Final Approval

Project Address: 1900-1960 W. 3rd Street

Project Representative: Joel Sheer, Flats South Cleveland LLC

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Always a bit sad for me to see these old Flats buildings get knocked down, especially the pre-war ones, like the northernmost building in this group.  But as was observed upthread, there'a already a partial roof collapse, so was inevitable.

 

Hard to imagine those schematic plans are anything other than eyewash to meet the letter of the toothless demolition law, but I guess there's always a slim chance there's something real on the horizon.

Are they proposing to build a Red Line station there?  I would love that!  It could be an asset to their development, Gateway, and the rest of the Stone's Levee area.  If the Eagle Ave. Viaduct Lift Bridge ever gets repaired it could also support development on the west side of Scranton Peninsula.

A cleared property is more marketable than one cluttered with structurally unsound ones.

 

I am curious why Scheer has specified a first-phase building at this point? Does he have tenants/financing lined up? And he doesn't ID the site where he previously has proposed a 13-story residential building, marking it only as "Garage and Mixed Use." He doesn't even call it "Future Phase" as he has done elsewhere on the map. I'd love to know more about what, if anything, he intends to do next.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

There's so much potential down there. The old power plant (now disused?) and the brick buildings along Canal could be centerpieces of a really amazing riverfront area with trails and transit.

Are they proposing to build a Red Line station there?  I would love that!  It could be an asset to their development, Gateway, and the rest of the Stone's Levee area.  If the Eagle Ave. Viaduct Lift Bridge ever gets repaired it could also support development on the west side of Scranton Peninsula.

 

Funny that Scheer's graphic highlights RTA's electrical substation for the Tower City-area tracks as the transit hub. So I doubt he's talked to anyone at RTA. If he had, they would have told him that a station located east of the old Eagle Avenue bridge, and really, east of the Inner Belt Bridge would be better for a station site as the number of tracks narrows from four to two, with a number of crossover tracks in the area, including one under the Inner Belt. To move switches, change signal systems, move buried signal/communications cables, overhead electrical wires and realign track would be a large expense. It could add anywhere from $5 million to $15 million to any station constructed west of the Inner Belt bridge, putting the final price tag in the $15 million to $30 million range.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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Some interesting changes to Scheer's site plan (compare to the ones above)...

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

So according to the site plan the only residential is the mixed use bldgs.

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Demolition is underway at 1900 W3rd. You can see it from the Q renovation webcam.

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Any updates on the Aquillon/Lift space? I couldn't find any info on Target Industries... some national retailer dominates all the google results ?

 

 

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I hadn't seen this anywhere, but there is an ongoing push to add a Platform (aka Paddle) Tennis facility on Cleveland Rowing Foundation property in the Flats near Merwin's Wharf.  Would be a really cool addition to a growing Recreation hub in that area. 

 

Details: https://www.cleptf.org/

Hopefully the courts will be taken better care of then the cracking concrete skate park 

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When I'm bored, I like to go to the county's on-line parcel map and click on properties that I expect would make great development sites to see if anything has changed with them. This is one of those sites I click on.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Me too! Haha.

I had heard swirling a couple years ago about somebody considering putting up housing on that site, but heard they had passed.  Maybe with continued growth and opportunity zones somebody has decided to give it a whirl

On 7/16/2007 at 8:35 AM, 3231 said:

264 more condos slated for Flats

Willoughby Hills developer hopes to break ground on first of four high rises in spring 

 

Flats Oxbow Association

 

By JAY MILLER

 

4:30 am, July 16, 2007

 

A development group led by Russell Berzin of Franklyn Development Co. is planning to replace a parking lot with a $50 million, 264-unit riverfront condominium complex in the Flats along Columbus Road south of the Carter Road bridge.

 

Mr. Berzin said the four high-rise buildings in the as-yet-unnamed complex will offer one-, two- and three-bedroom units in prices tentatively set in a range comparable to those at the nearby Stonebridge development. Condominium units in Stonebridge Plaza, a just-completed condominium building, run from $153,000 to $529,000.

 

Cleveland City Council last week approved a rezoning of the property from general industry to downtown residential. Mr. Berzin said final engineering drawings will be completed shortly, and he hopes to break ground on the first building next spring.

 

The complex, designed by Paul Volpe of City Architecture Inc., would bring new housing construction to a section of the Flats that is predominantly parking lots and old railroad depots. Mr. Berzin said the plan is to start with a nine-story building with 55 units on seven floors over two levels of parking. The second building would be identical, while the third building would have a total of 13 floors and the fourth would have 12 floors.

 

He said all the suites will have views of the Cuyahoga River.

 

“The concept was that as we get up in the air, we’ll also have a view across to the lake in some instances,” Mr. Berzin said.

 

Like any new housing in Cleveland, these units will be eligible for 100% tax abatement for 15 years.

 

Mr. Berzin said he and his partners paid nearly $2 million for the three-acre site in 1999. It had been owned by Sherwin-Williams Co. Since 2001, after buildings were demolished and the land cleared, the property has been a parking lot.

 

Mr. Berzin’s partners include Joel Cole, president of Network Parking, and real estate investors Hal LaPine and Michael Miller. Mr. Berzin’s Franklyn Development, a family business in Willoughby Hills that he took over from his late father, has developed single-family home communities in eastern Cuyahoga County, Lake County and Florida.

 

Tom Newman, executive director of Flats Oxbow Association, the neighborhood development group, has not yet seen plans for the project so he was reluctant to evaluate it.

 

“I think it’s appropriate for the site,” Mr. Newman said after hearing the project discussed at the City Council hearing. “City Architecture has a pretty good track record, and I’m sure it will be wonderful.”

 

Mr. Berzin’s project joins the Wolstein Group’s Flats East Bank development and K&D Group’s expansion of the Stonebridge complex as major residential construction efforts planned for the Flats.

 

K&D last year announced it plans to add 1,200 units to Stonebridge in the next five years, including 130 townhouses in the near term. The developer is just completing the 108-condominium Stonebridge Plaza, bringing to 600 the number of units it has built in the Flats since 1999.

 

Wolstein Group’s Flats East Bank development is projected to include 300 housing units.

 

With developers planning so many new housing units in the neighborhood, the Flats is bucking the generally sluggish housing market.

 

“There’s probably a stronger market for new construction there than in most of the region,” said Keith Brown, president of Progressive Urban Real Estate, which is marketing the Stonebridge complex.

 

Mr. Brown said the Flats attracts residents from across a broad range of demographic groups. “It’s across the board, it’s extremely diverse,” he said. “Professional would be the commonality there.

 

 

 

 

Wasn't this condo project from 2006 planned for that site and cancelled due to the Recession? With the new development closer to the Columbus Rd bridge, hopefully this will be a developed site in the near future?

Not sure who is responsible for this, but I like it. Metroparks maybe?

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^ I like it. Every little step forward that shows a place is cared for, and worth something. The Flats are too cool and historic to exist for so long looking like a wasteland out of the movie “Warriors.” 

@freethink -  Wayfinding for The Flats has been spearheaded by Flats Forward, although I believe Metro Parks (and other community stakeholders) have been involved in the planning process. They hired Guide Studio (formerly Studio Graphique) for planning/design of the signage. 

FYI, including a link to program details....

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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