Posted November 5, 201014 yr Governor-Elect John Kasich has a penchant for colorful and bombastic quotes. This thread is an attempt to catalogue them for posterity. Please add any, but be sure to include where they appeared. Enjoy! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- “A 39-mph train that costs $400 million dollars and which will lose $17 million in perpetuity is one of the silliest ideas I have ever heard. I will kill it if elected governor and prioritize highway and freight rail projects…” - Columbus Dispatch candidates questionnaire 8-15-10 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I don't support a 39 mph train, OK? It's not going to happen if I'm governor, OK?" Kasich said. "If you want the train, I hope you can get over that and vote for me anyway. But you're not going to get that train. It's a white elephant, we can't afford it. We can't pay for it. And who's riding it?" - Cleveland.com (Plain Dealer),”John Kasich, Yvette McGee-Brown Differ on Rail Plan at candidate Forum” 8-4-10 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- “The 39 mph high-speed train is dead when I become governor”…“We don’t have the money to operate it, we don’t have the money longterm to fund it ... (and) I’m still trying to find somebody in Ohio that wants to get on that train. No, no, we have to shut it down before it gets too far.” - Recordpub. com 8-26-10 Kasich: High Speed Train Dead When I’m Governor” --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "We don't know what it's going to cost, we don't know who's going to operate it, and we don't know who's going to get on the train," Kasich said. "I'm going to tell you - I'm governor, the 39-mile-per-hour high-speed passenger train is dead." - Columbus Dispatch 9-15-10 “A Civil Fight” Kasich names staff members Business First - by Jeff Bell Date: Wednesday, November 3, 2010, 3:09pm EDT ...Kasich also reiterated his commitment to get more money into Ohio classrooms by reducing spending on administrative functions. He also said he will stick by his campaign promise to stop the 3C passenger rail project from Cleveland to Cincinnati. “That train is dead,” Kasich said. “We’re not going to have it.” READ MORE AT: http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2010/11/03/kasich-names-staff-members.html Kasich lays down the law to lobbyists Friday, November 5, 2010 02:52 AM By Mark Niquette and Jim Siegel THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH "I just want Ohio to be great; this is our chance," Kasich said during a luncheon at Brio Tuscan Grille at Polaris. "Please leave the cynicism and the political maneuvering at the door. Because we need you on the bus, and if you're not on the bus, we will run over you with the bus. And I'm not kidding." "And if you think you're going to stop us, you're crazy. You will not stop us. We will beat you. And that's not arrogance." READ MORE AT: http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2010/11/05/copy/kasich-lays-down-the-law.html
November 6, 201014 yr Since John Kasich is transitioning to be Ohio's next governor - Urban Ohio might as well do the same. So here is the new Governor John Kasich discussion thread. BuckeyeB got it started with a sampling of Kasich quotes and two news items, so I renamed that thread into this Governor Kasich thread. Please include news and discussion of the Kasich administration in this thread instead of the older 2010 Governor Race thread. If you want to discuss the actual 2010 election process (i.e. voting patterns etc.) in the 2010 Governor Race thread, that's fine. But discussion of what Kasich will or will not do as governor, criticism, praise and news items should go into this thread moving forward.
November 6, 201014 yr Personally, I think that governor elect Kasich should keep his mouth shut until he is sworn in. So far he suffers from a severe foot in mouth problem. One day after winning by the slightest of margins, he is spouting orders and dictates as though it were the landslide to end all. He should not forget that 51% of the state voted against him. Also, he should keep in mind that he was elected chief executive; he was not appointed dictator of the state, nor was he crowned emperor. His last sentence delivered at Brio shows his arrogance, no matter what he thinks. It is beyond the pale. I don't live in the state, so my opinion probably does not matter much. I still care what happens to Ohio. Taft was an embarrassment, but this man gives buffoon a whole new meaning.
November 6, 201014 yr I think Taft got a bad rap. He was a pragmatic moderate. So was Strickland. I haven't heard anything out of Kasich yet that doesn't make me cringe. I'm really not looking forward to the next 4 years of news out of Columbus.
November 6, 201014 yr He said what he was going to do before the election, now I just hope he follows through. That's the reason he won the election.
November 6, 201014 yr ^well glad to hear you're keeping an open mind If he comes up with a good idea, I'll keep an open mind. I haven't heard one from him yet.
November 6, 201014 yr ^well glad to hear you're keeping an open mind If he comes up with a good idea, I'll keep an open mind. I haven't heard one from him yet. Agreed.
November 6, 201014 yr As for his desire to take money from school adminstrators and put it 'in the classroom', I'm not sure how he plans to rectify the onerous state and federal 'accountability' measures with his desire to have fewer people around to actually monitor and implement those laws. Furthermore, his plan to cut taxes can only mean further cuts in school and public university budgets. BGSU is already planning for a 25% cut in state funding in the next budget, which means we're becoming a state university in name only.
November 6, 201014 yr If we're all supposed to "get on the bus" (or else)....what happens when gasoline prices skyrocket and the bus runs out of fuel? :wtf:
November 6, 201014 yr ^well glad to hear you're keeping an open mind Imagine if Obama had said this upon being elected to the Presidency: "Please leave the cynicism and the political maneuvering at the door. Because we need you on the bus, and if you're not on the bus, we will run over you with the bus. And I'm not kidding." "And if you think you're going to stop us, you're crazy. You will not stop us. We will beat you. And that's not arrogance." I'm sure you would have kept an "open mind"
November 6, 201014 yr If we're all supposed to "get on the bus" (or else)....what happens when gasoline prices skyrocket and the bus runs out of fuel? :wtf: I guess with the upcoming gutting of public transit in Ohio..thanks to Kasich.....we'll just have to walk. I'll be surprised if any major urban transit agency in Ohio has anything beyond skeletal service on Sundays when all is said and done.
November 6, 201014 yr I may be wrong, but I don't think he said anything about public transit other than the 3C slow train.
November 6, 201014 yr I may be wrong, but I don't think he said anything about public transit other than the 3C slow train. He didn't single out public transit directly, but the GOP has no reason to save it. It was cut severely even during the Strickland years....it's going to get a LOT worse with Kasich, given the anti-transit feelings of many GOP legislators.
November 6, 201014 yr If we're all supposed to "get on the bus" (or else)....what happens when gasoline prices skyrocket and the bus runs out of fuel? :wtf: If that comment is meant to compare the bus service to the 3C train service, don't you think it's much easier to budget for fuel costs as the only variable in the system compared to the train service, where nearly everything is a variable estimate, including construction costs, operating costs and ridership? Not only that, what do you think a train is powered by? Water? Sorry, I guess this post should really go in the 3C train post...
November 7, 201014 yr ^well glad to hear you're keeping an open mind Imagine if Obama had said this upon being elected to the Presidency: "Please leave the cynicism and the political maneuvering at the door. Because we need you on the bus, and if you're not on the bus, we will run over you with the bus. And I'm not kidding." "And if you think you're going to stop us, you're crazy. You will not stop us. We will beat you. And that's not arrogance." I'm sure you would have kept an "open mind" Those comments were directed toward "political insiders" & lobbyists, not voters or general public
November 7, 201014 yr I hope he gets Ohio on sound financial footing like he did when he balanced the federal budget in the 90's as Chairman of the Budget Committee.
November 7, 201014 yr I hope he gets Ohio on sound financial footing like he did when he balanced the federal budget in the 90's as Chairman of the Budget Committee. That will happen when we end both wars, inflate the economy again like happened with tech in the late 90s, and watch our baby-boomer family and friends die and stop collecting social security. So, no, it won't happen without major, major budget cuts or tax increases. Probably both.
November 7, 201014 yr I hope he gets Ohio on sound financial footing like he did when he balanced the federal budget in the 90's as Chairman of the Budget Committee. That will happen when we end both wars, inflate the economy again like happened with tech in the late 90s, and watch our baby-boomer family and friends die and stop collecting social security. So, no, it won't happen without major, major budget cuts or tax increases. Probably both. This is off-topic since Kasich has nothing to do with the wars but isn't it sad that no one talked about the two wars we're waging right now in the Mideast? I hope the antiwar vote comes out strong in 2 years.
November 8, 201014 yr wow i know 'ol strick wasnt all that, but kasich won? really?!! and here i thought only ny state went in for carpet-baggers! my only question is has this coddled suburban doofus pledged to pay the state of ohio back the $500M he personally lost it while he was working for those crooks at lehman bros? unfortunately i know the answer to that one, but i'll never know how some more than unsuccessful business douche like that could ever be voted into public office.
November 8, 201014 yr "Carpet-beggar" is a lame potshot. There's nothing wrong with voting in a nonnative with good ideas and a fresh perspective. The problem is Kasich has no good ideas, and his perspective is full of ignorance (see: 3C).
November 8, 201014 yr No matter what anyone thinks about Kasich, you've got to admit - he's so excited!
November 8, 201014 yr And I don't think I like it. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 8, 201014 yr No matter what anyone thinks about Kasich, you've got to admit - he's so excited! He was leading the group in song - "Ding Dong! The Train is dead. Which old Train? The 3C Train! Ding Dong! The 3C Train is dead."
November 8, 201014 yr No matter what anyone thinks about Kasich, you've got to admit - he's so excited! sure he's not yawning? Has he come up with anything specific on the 3C train? I certainly think it needs more thought than what has already gone in. But if he just thinks it's stupid. Well....
November 8, 201014 yr ^Ohioans can't afford a half-a-cup of Starbucks coffee per resident each year to operate it. That's the best he's got... at the moment.
November 8, 201014 yr *television ad narrator voice* John Kasich: Bad for Ohio, Bad for America, and Bad for Coffee. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 8, 201014 yr Best thing to happen to the state since Voinovich! Dan hasn't gotten the memo yet. Moderate, pragmatic, reasonable minded Republicans like Voinivich are sooooo 1994. I believe we call them "Establihsment Republicans" now...
November 8, 201014 yr Best thing to happen to the state since Voinovich! He's nothing like Voinovich. I like Voinovich.
November 8, 201014 yr Meh, this thread is premature. Should read 'governor elect'. What I'd love to see between now and Jan 1, now that he's elected and no longer has to waffle, is a detailed agenda outlining what he'd like to accomplish in his first term. I'll judge him based on that. And that picture upthread. I can't not judge him on that picture. He looks like a baby being tickled.
November 8, 201014 yr Maybe it's not so premature. "Kasich to Strickland: Cancel all passenger rail contracts" http://cincinnati.com/blogs/politics/2010/11/08/kasich-to-strickland-cancel-all-passenger-rail-contracts/
November 8, 201014 yr I can't blame him for the letter to Strickland if that is how he honestly feels. But the letter to Obama is politicking at its worst. He is simply positioning himself for what will surely be a 'day late, dollar short' onslaught by the Ohio media when the funds are repurposed to make some booming state that much better of a place to live.
November 8, 201014 yr Honestly, I hope that the President/Secretary of USDOT replies that Passenger Rail infrastructure is in the NATION'S top priorities, that they made it clear that the funds were for that purpose alone, that Kasich should reconsider, and if he won't, the money go to another state.
November 8, 201014 yr I'm sort of curious now about his proposed cuts. Morbid curiosity, I suppose. Let's see how good he is at balancing a budget without a chief executive raising taxes and growing sun belt economies to increase revenues. Though I suppose having everything in state GOP hands will make the politics of slashing easier.
November 8, 201014 yr Though I suppose having everything in state GOP hands will make the politics of slashing easier. When has the GOP ever significantly slashed spending? Sure, they talk a lot about it... but can anyone cite an example of when it was actually done in a significant manner?
November 8, 201014 yr That's irrelevant. When was the last time GOP had control of governor & both state houses & had a budget defecit like what we're facing now and an angry voter base demanding changes?
November 8, 201014 yr That's irrelevant. When was the last time GOP had control of governor & both state houses & had a budget defecit like what we're facing now and an angry voter base demanding changes? The last time we had a Republican Governor. A few years back.
November 8, 201014 yr A few years back would be 2006 when Strickland was elected or well before that when Taft was elected? You're comparing today's economic times to those of late 90's or early 2000's? What was the state's unemployement rate & defecit then? You're stoned.
November 9, 201014 yr Only my avatar. And you may have overlooked it, but Ohio never really recovered from the first Bush era recession. Our standing, comparitavely to other states, has actually improved since the onset of the latest recession.
November 9, 201014 yr When has the GOP ever significantly slashed spending? Sure, they talk a lot about it... but can anyone cite an example of when it was actually done in a significant manner? They haven't. In fact, North Dakota, one of the few, if not the only state that is doing well in this economy, has a Republican governor and a Republican legislature. But revenue is up, so what did they do- they passed a tax cut and increased spending. The problem isn't spending, it is that the government isn't getting enough revenue. That's almost entirely because of the massive amount of unemployment that resulted from the banking crisis. This idea that Republicans are concerned about spending is a joke. They aren't. The funny thing is that Kasich is actually proving this point. He is rejecting the 3C money because "he's against wasteful spending" and "he's against federal overreach" because he "understands the Constitution." But he wants to keep the money to spend on highways and roads and the like. So he's not against spending. And he wants to unilaterally change the use for which Congress appropriated the money. So he's for state overreach. And he doesn't want to submit that change either to any legislature, state or federal (at least he hasn't said so) so he doesn't care that money appropriated has to be appropriated by the legislature. So he doesn't understand the Constitution, or any constitution. This clown is going to be terrible for Ohio.
November 9, 201014 yr KJP nailed it. This has little to do with government spending and a lot to do with the 2012 Presidential race. Unfortunately, it appears that our Governor-elect (whom I believe has some aspirations of his own for 2012) has chosen to use our State as a sacrificial pawn in that game of backroom politics.
November 9, 201014 yr Best thing to happen to the state since Voinovich! Voinovich and Kasich do not even belong in the same sentence.
November 11, 201014 yr If we're all supposed to "get on the bus" (or else)....what happens when gasoline prices skyrocket and the bus runs out of fuel? :wtf: I guess with the upcoming gutting of public transit in Ohio..thanks to Kasich.....we'll just have to walk. I'll be surprised if any major urban transit agency in Ohio has anything beyond skeletal service on Sundays when all is said and done. There will be a LOT of bloodletting when Kasich and his Repub cronies are in charge. Look for massive slashing of the state government unlike anything seen before. As far as transportation goes, only highways will be safe because "everyone drives". Passenger rail, transit, bikepaths? Bye, bye. It's interesting to note that Kasich doesn't want to send the $400 million for 3C back...he just wants to spend it in roads...so much for being a true guardian of the national debt. Meantime, the Ohio Department of Development will be killed, the Ohio Rail Development Commission will probably disappear into ODOT, which itself will quickly transition into the Roadborg it was before Strickland. In short, the state government will be emasculated and that will have two effects: 1) Massive state agency job losses will knock the props out from under the economy of central Ohio, which has been shielded from the worst of the recession by the insurance industry, state government and Ohio State University. Watch the jobless rate go up and people start to leave as they search for work elsewhere. 2) The state will be unable to respond to the coming spike in gas prices precisely because it decided to put its eggs in the highway basket. Likewise, the state will not be able to cope with the exodus of people leaving, because it will be rightfully be percieved as being unwilling or unable to help itself. Federal help for Ohio? Forget it. The state already has a reputation of being long on talk and short on commitment. Turning away a $400 million gift-wrapped chance to better ourselves will do nothing to improve that. I sat on the fence concerning my future in Ohio, but I've come to the conclusion this is really a state that belongs to the naysayers...it's their state; I just live here. Soooo...as soon as I possibly can, I'm outta here. I fought for passenger trains in Ohio for 35+ years, only to have it come to this. As for Ohio...when the gas crunch comes---and it will---just remember, you as a state, voted for Kasich.
November 11, 201014 yr ^Kasich might be trying to run the smart people out of the state so that he and people like him can control it for decades with an iron fist... upon a throne of dirt.
November 11, 201014 yr ^The only silver lining is that 1) Ohio's geographic position makes it much more difficult / nearly impossible to become completely irrelevant (unlike Michigan or western New York); and 2) between 2006 & 2008 we know that there are Democrats in Ohio who will vote, so long as you get them out to do it. After the election I was reminded of Pitt the Younger's quote: "Roll up that map; it will not be wanted these [four] years."
November 11, 201014 yr Indeed. We have some of the best crop-producing land around, the Great Lakes, abundant water, excellent freight rail, varying terrain and Arnold says that we are one of the few states that could support itself without the help of other states. Well, I don't mind if Republicans like Voinovich, Eisenhower or Ford get in, though people like them seem to be rare these days. The way many speak of leaving the state makes me think of the song "Him". "Him him him, what's she gonna do about Him? She's gonna have to live without him, It's him or it's me, me me, No one gets to get it for free It's me or it's him." Apparently GCrites80s, the metalhead, has been listening to too much AM Gold lately.