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Jobs, jobs, jobs...people follow opportunity. Everything else will follow. The state's "coolness factor" will rise with a better ecomomy.

 

Agreed.  I used to live in Michigan and during that time Gov Jennifer Granholm hired Richard Florida's consulting firm to address the state's brain drain and they came up with the "cool cities" program.  Check it out.  http://www.coolcities.com/main.html

 

Trust me, it did nothing to retain young people, they still leave in droves for hotter job markets like Boston, DC, Chicago, Atlanta, etc.  Once the jobs are here, young people come for the opportunities, make a little money, you'll start to see more people reinvesting in pockets of the city which have been overlooked. 

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The problem with Kasich is that he seems focused on fixing the budget NOW, and not really looking at all toward building an economy for TOMORROW. He's trying to rebuild the 1960s. He seems to think teenagers and 20-somethings share his vision.

The young people who show up at Kasich events probably do share his vision.  Sampling error.

Jobs, jobs, jobs...people follow opportunity. Everything else will follow. The state's "coolness factor" will rise with a better ecomomy.

 

Agreed. I used to live in Michigan and during that time Gov Jennifer Granholm hired Richard Florida's consulting firm to address the state's brain drain and they came up with the "cool cities" program. Check it out. http://www.coolcities.com/main.html

 

Trust me, it did nothing to retain young people, they still leave in droves for hotter job markets like Boston, DC, Chicago, Atlanta, etc. Once the jobs are here, young people come for the opportunities, make a little money, you'll start to see more people reinvesting in pockets of the city which have been overlooked.

There are lots of things wrong with that plan. Not a big enough focus on transportation, for one. Too broad a scope, for another. (It's comical to look at the list of cities aimed to become cool.) Frankly, Ohio has better bones than Michigan. You have to have the potential, to make it work. Or you can be Portland.

Wow, I feel dumber for having clicked on that.

 

"The TIDE (Talent, Innovation, Diversity, Enviroment) is rising in Michigan."

^ You know it.

In fairness, some of the detail is decent... but when the front page confronts you with trite acronyms and faux-graffiti styling... it's like you're watchng The Electric Company.

Wow, I feel dumber for having clicked on that.

 

"The TIDE (Talent, Innovation, Diversity, Enviroment) is rising in Michigan."

 

Well, in defense of the concept, these are the arbiters of 'cool' for Michigan

 

coolcities_coordinatingteam.jpg

Jobs, jobs, jobs...people follow opportunity. Everything else will follow. The state's "coolness factor" will rise with a better ecomomy.

 

Agreed.  I used to live in Michigan and during that time Gov Jennifer Granholm hired Richard Florida's consulting firm to address the state's brain drain and they came up with the "cool cities" program.  Check it out.  http://www.coolcities.com/main.html

 

Trust me, it did nothing to retain young people, they still leave in droves for hotter job markets like Boston, DC, Chicago, Atlanta, etc.  Once the jobs are here, young people come for the opportunities, make a little money, you'll start to see more people reinvesting in pockets of the city which have been overlooked. 

There are lots of things wrong with that plan. Not a big enough focus on transportation, for one. Too broad a scope, for another. (It's comical to look at the list of cities aimed to become cool.) Frankly, Ohio has better bones than Michigan. You have to have the potential, to make it work. Or you can be Portland.

 

Cosign. Kasich needs to place more emphasis on public transit. Ohio's public transit can be a whole lot better than what it currently is. And although Michigan does have a lot of nice areas outside of SE Michigan, especially along the western shore, I agree that Ohio has a lot more potenital than Michigan.

Wow, I feel dumber for having clicked on that.

 

"The TIDE (Talent, Innovation, Diversity, Enviroment) is rising in Michigan."

 

Well, in defense of the concept, these are the arbiters of 'cool' for Michigan

 

coolcities_coordinatingteam.jpg

 

looks like a "jewelry factory" commercial!

Jobs, jobs, jobs...people follow opportunity. Everything else will follow. The state's "coolness factor" will rise with a better ecomomy.

 

Agreed.  I used to live in Michigan and during that time Gov Jennifer Granholm hired Richard Florida's consulting firm to address the state's brain drain and they came up with the "cool cities" program.  Check it out.  http://www.coolcities.com/main.html

 

Trust me, it did nothing to retain young people, they still leave in droves for hotter job markets like Boston, DC, Chicago, Atlanta, etc.  Once the jobs are here, young people come for the opportunities, make a little money, you'll start to see more people reinvesting in pockets of the city which have been overlooked. 

There are lots of things wrong with that plan. Not a big enough focus on transportation, for one. Too broad a scope, for another. (It's comical to look at the list of cities aimed to become cool.) Frankly, Ohio has better bones than Michigan. You have to have the potential, to make it work. Or you can be Portland.

 

Cosign. Kasich needs to place more emphasis on public transit. Ohio's public transit can be a whole lot better than what it currently is. And although Michigan does have a lot of nice areas outside of SE Michigan, especially along the western shore, I agree that Ohio has a lot more potenital than Michigan.

 

Ohio vs. Michigan!

 

We can't compete with their coastline, in that realm they are just way out of our league. The "Pure Michigan" campaign has been miraculous.

 

What we should find out is why they're so far ahead in sheer number of quality micro breweries.

 

Kasich, get to work with some kind of pro-beer plan! Or even better, help us get our beaches back from 100 years of horrible coastal misuse.

 

p.s. LOL at the Tide Posse. But at least they didn't hire that NEXT GEN? consultant chick that robs idiotic cities (Akron wtf?) with her elementary school solutions.

^ I fear that the Ohio Supreme Court is going to give our beaches to rich landowners.

Ohio vs. Michigan!

 

We can't compete with their coastline, in that realm they are just way out of our league. The "Pure Michigan" campaign has been miraculous.

 

What we should find out is why they're so far ahead in sheer number of quality micro breweries.

 

Kasich, get to work with some kind of pro-beer plan! Or even better, help us get our beaches back from 100 years of horrible coastal misuse.

 

p.s. LOL at the Tide Posse. But at least they didn't hire that NEXT GEN? consultant chick that robs idiotic cities (Akron wtf?) with her elementary school solutions.

 

I didn't mean to crap on Michigan, but in terms of "cool cities" potential, they just can't touch Ohio (pretty much no one can, IMO). They win on natural environment, though. I'll give them that.

 

Re: beer...Very true! Kasich should push for a brewery plan. Greg Hardman in Cincinnati is hard at work on resurrecting Cincy's beer heritage, so that's a start.

Our cities are fly. We are Ohio.

 

Kasich is a grateful "dead head" fan...so maybe even if he doesn't kick off the Brewery Plan he may be more into Hemp production. We could lead the nation.

 

Ohio vs. Michigan!

 

We can't compete with their coastline, in that realm they are just way out of our league. The "Pure Michigan" campaign has been miraculous.

 

What we should find out is why they're so far ahead in sheer number of quality micro breweries.

 

Kasich, get to work with some kind of pro-beer plan! Or even better, help us get our beaches back from 100 years of horrible coastal misuse.

 

p.s. LOL at the Tide Posse. But at least they didn't hire that NEXT GEN? consultant chick that robs idiotic cities (Akron wtf?) with her elementary school solutions.

 

I didn't mean to crap on Michigan, but in terms of "cool cities" potential, they just can't touch Ohio (pretty much no one can, IMO). They win on natural environment, though. I'll give them that.

 

Re: beer...Very true! Kasich should push for a brewery plan. Greg Hardman in Cincinnati is hard at work on resurrecting Cincy's beer heritage, so that's a start.

Why should Kasich care about making it a good state for young people? They don't vote as much as other age brackets and when they do it's often against people like him. Plus, they don't have very much money. We're useless to him. If he does irreparable damage to his and his party's reputation, he doesn't care. He'll be out of office by the time that happens.

Why should Kasich care about making it a good state for young people? They don't vote as much as other age brackets and when they do it's often against people like him. Plus, they don't have very much money. We're useless to him. If he does irreparable damage to his and his party's reputation, he doesn't care. He'll be out of office by the time that happens.

 

Because young people (20s-early 30s) tend to be the mobile ones who can have the greatest impact on a local economy. If a place isn't attractive for young people, then you have brain drain - a large outflow of young people with no one replacing them, while the median age increases. I agree with you that young people do not vote nearly as much as they should. The voting numbers for my specific demographic are disturbing. A lot of young people did not vote during the midterm elections, which is a large reason why the results turned out the way they did. The thing I can't stand is when people do not vote, then they complain about the way things are.

Wow, I feel dumber for having clicked on that.

 

"The TIDE (Talent, Innovation, Diversity, Enviroment) is rising in Michigan."

 

Well, in defense of the concept, these are the arbiters of 'cool' for Michigan

 

coolcities_coordinatingteam.jpg

 

Ha...thumbs up dudes....  "Rising tide" make me think of everyone drowning in debt...

 

I always thought of Ann Arbor as a "cool city", a winner for Michigan.  I admit the "pure Michigan" campaign made me want to visit the state for a short vacation.

The "Pure Michigan" campaign made me want to rent a cabin on the lake in Michigan, specifically the northern peninsula, not visit Detroit.  But it was very effective at that.

Man, that show has gone down hill since I stopped watching it last year...

Man, that show has gone down hill since I stopped watching it last year...

Ditto that. He never was that good. Stewart is good.

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George Will: With Ohio on the ropes, Kasich spoiling for a fight

By George Will

5:03 PM Friday, February 4, 2011

 

COLUMBUS —

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Having occupied that office for four weeks, he has plans as big as Ohio’s problems.

 

Its population is aging, and shrinking relative to the nation’s: From 2000 to 2010, only Rhode Island and Louisiana had slower population growth (Michigan had negative growth); and Ohio is losing two congressional seats. It will have 16 starting in 2013, down from 24 in 1960. Cincinnati has lost 40 percent of its population since 1950. Most net new job creation in the nation is done by companies no more than 5 years old, but Kasich says Ohio’s taxation and regulation environment discourages entrepreneurship. Which is one reason why a third of the state’s college students leave Ohio within three years of graduation. Per-pupil spending in Cleveland and Youngstown public schools is $14,573 and $13,823, respectively (the national average is about $10,800); their graduation rates are 54.3 percent and 58 percent, respectively. Nineteen percent of Ohioans are on Medicaid, which is about 30 percent of the state’s budget.

 

Asked what the headline will be when he submits his first budget, he replies, “Probably, ‘Oh my God!’”

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Kasich is in the process of privatizing the economic development agency and enticed a Silicon Valley venture capitalist to run it for a $1-a-year salary. Kasich’s traveling for Lehman Brothers was an experience that affected him the way the years with General Electric deepened Ronald Reagan’s enthusiasm for the private sector.

 

Kasich is considering privatizing some prisons and selling or leasing the Ohio Turnpike (Republican Gov. Mitch Daniels leased Indiana’s).

 

more: http://www.daytondailynews.com/opinion/columnists/george-will-with-ohio-on-the-ropes-kasich-spoiling-for-a-fight--1073054.html

I'm willing to let Kaisich do his thing, since with the situation here as dire as it is, it's time to experiment with some different policy initiatives.  Kaisich's are neoliberal/libertarian, fine, lets try that for a change...

 

 

Man, that show has gone down hill since I stopped watching it last year...

 

Don't confuse the Colbert Report with your sense of humor...

Man, that show has gone down hill since I stopped watching it last year...

 

Don't confuse the Colbert Report with your sense of humor...

 

Oh, I won't.  I'm well aware my sense of humor is very refined, and the Colbert Report is lame.

Kasich is considering ... selling or leasing the Ohio Turnpike (Republican Gov. Mitch Daniels leased Indiana’s).

Motorists in Northern Ohio have been paying to use the Ohio Turnpike for half a century and now Governor Lehman wants to use it as a financing gimmick to help other parts of the state.

Oh god...don't privatize the prisons.  Arizona has had a lot of problems with breakouts and things since they did that.

Didnt ohio have a privatized prison once? And it failed?

And Kasich just named the man who headed up the company that ran the failed prison to be the head of the DOC.

I'm willing to let Kaisich do his thing, since with the situation here as dire as it is, it's time to experiment with some different policy initiatives. Kaisich's are neoliberal/libertarian, fine, lets try that for a change...

 

 

 

I echo your sentiments.

 

I like my conservatives ARCH, and my liberals FLAMING lol.

 

Really though, if he doesn't get Ohio to where it should be fiscally in four years time then lets get someone else.

Really though, if he doesn't get Ohio to where it should be fiscally in four years time then lets get someone else.

 

This kind of thing makes me cringe, unfortunately, regardless of which position is being supported.

 

Ohio's fiscal problems *cannot* be solved in four years.  Maybe you meant that we should expect Kasich to have made four years' worth of real progress in four years.  To have gotten Ohio fiscally where it needs to be in four years is too tall an order for anyone.  I'd be happy with just getting things on the right track.

 

(In fact, with Kasich, I'd be happy if things simply hadn't gotten worse.)

It's an even bigger issue than just that.  To expect Kasich to fix things in 4 years is just as bad as blaming Strickland for losing however many jobs the Kasich campaign touted.  Ohio isn't a vacuum, the broader problem of the whole country's economy caused those jobs to disappear in every single state, and any recovery or financial fix is unlikely to happen in Ohio or any other individual state if the nation as a whole isn't on the upswing. 

Really though, if he doesn't get Ohio to where it should be fiscally in four years time then lets get someone else.

 

This kind of thing makes me cringe, unfortunately, regardless of which position is being supported.

 

Ohio's fiscal problems *cannot* be solved in four years. Maybe you meant that we should expect Kasich to have made four years' worth of real progress in four years. To have gotten Ohio fiscally where it needs to be in four years is too tall an order for anyone. I'd be happy with just getting things on the right track.

 

(In fact, with Kasich, I'd be happy if things simply hadn't gotten worse.)

 

Sorry. Let me rephrase....

 

If he doesn't get Ohio at least on the right track in four years time then lets get someone else.

I hope Kasich makes HUGE changes. We've had garbage statewide government since 1983. Kasich would be wise to take a few hints from Indiana since he has majorities in the state house and senate like Daniels did.

Kasich reassures black lawmakers

Tuesday, February 15, 2011  02:52 AM

By Jim Siegel, THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

 

Relations between black lawmakers and Gov. John Kasich thawed yesterday after the parties emerged from a sit-down meeting pleased with the discussions surrounding priorities and diversity.

 

After a discussion that at times was heated and passionate, "we definitely believe it was a step in a positive direction," said Rep. Sandra Williams, D-Cleveland, president of the Ohio Legislative Black Caucus.

 

MORE: http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2011/02/15/copy/kasich-reassures-black-lawmakers.html?adsec=politics&sid=101

Geez.  This is gonna be a LONG FOUR YEARS!!!

 

Kasich in hot water after calling cop 'idiot'

Wednesday, February 16, 2011  02:10 PM

Updated: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 02:59 PM

By Darrel Rowland and Doug Caruso

The Columbus Dispatch

 

With Gov. John Kasich already taking on public employee unions, the revelation today that last month he called a Columbus police officer an "idiot" for giving him a traffic ticket in 2008 touched off a firestorm of reaction.

 

"We're not idiots, we're out enforcing the law that he as governor has asked us to go out and enforce," said Jim Gilbert, president of Fraternal Order of Police Lodge No. 9, the union that represents Columbus police officers, Franklin County sheriff's deputies and officers in several suburban departments.

 

Herschel Sigall, lawyer for the union representing State Highway Patrol troopers, was even more caustic:  "This is only the most recent strange insensitive and callous remark of the governor. He is obviously authority averse except where he is the authority. As to the facts, what do you say about someone who passes an emergency vehicle and doesn't even realize it. Were I the officer the first thing I would reach for would be the portable Breathalyzer."

 

Court records show that Kasich was pulled over Jan. 8, 2008, on northbound Rt. 315 near the interchange with Henderson Road for not moving over for a stopped emergency vehicle with its lights flashing.  He pleaded guilty and paid an $85 fine three days later.

 

Kasich's comments came during a "staff meeting" the governor held with most of the Ohio Environmental Protection Agency's employees Jan. 21.

 

FULL ARTICLE AND VIDEO OF KASICH'S "IDIOT" REMARKS: http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2011/02/16/Kasich-in-hot-water-after-calling-cop-idiot.html?sid=101

The Blade printed this one recently:

 

Article published February 16, 2011

Kasich's anti-union mindset

 

...Governor Kasich maintains that cutbacks and hardship must be shared by Ohio's union workers. But sharing the pain does not extend to the friends and supporters to whom he has given jobs.

 

His newly appointed chief of staff will make $47,000 more per year than her predecessor. His communications director will make over $40,000 more than did Gov. Ted Strickland's. Mr. Kasich's press secretary will get $20,000 more per year than his predecessor.

 

If the governor is serious about cutting government spending, shouldn't he lead by example?

 

David L. Blyth, Jr.

Staff Representative American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, Ohio Council 8 Toledo

 

FULL LETTER AT BLADE SITE

http://www.toledoblade.com/article/20110216/OPINION03/110219738

 

^But he did cut overall expenses. I think they should have added that in.

Another one from the Blade. A Valentine letter to Kasich from Marilou Johanek.

 

Article published February 10, 2011

Will Kasich be our valentine?

 

Dear John:

 

Now that the wooing, the triumph, and the honeymoon are over, where is the plethora of jobs you promised? Kidding. Just as no one could expect your predecessor to singlehandedly lasso the recession in a year or produce full employment in the next, few expect the Kasich job bonanza to start for at least another month or two. No pressure. Ohioans are patient - to a point. Understanding too. You stumbled out of the starting gate in preparing for your gubernatorial duties by whining about the state's open records laws and initially barring media from covering your inauguration. That was bad form. But we gave you the benefit of the doubt, as a newbie chief executive still heady after your defeat of a much better known incumbent governor. You got carried away with yourself. It happens.

 

In your mind, you were swept into office by a mandate, even though fewer than half of Ohioans who voted chose you. It was discontent that made you governor, and intoxicating power that made your trademark cockiness and arrogance compete for attention. That striking hubris was evident in the initial all-white makeup of your cabinet, the dismissive shrug you gave to critics over its lack of diversity, and the insult and injury you inflicted with a resolution honoring Martin Luther King, Jr., on St. Patrick's Day.

 

Those were growing pains, right? A sharp learning curve in public relations was hastily mastered and now you get it. The governor is answerable to the electorate, not to a board of directors impervious to anything but profit margins. But rumor has it you're still acting like a showman, throwing around bumper-sticker slogans and concocting money-making schemes. You're not playing investment banker or Fox News pundit anymore...

 

CONTINUED ON BLADE SITE

http://www.toledoblade.com/article/20110210/COLUMNIST13/102090323/0/RSS02

Not defending Kasich but that letter from the AFSCME union rep does little to draw my support to him.  What's the relevance of Kasich's staff salaries when the discussion is about balancing the state budget?  Seems like Mr. Blythe would point at anyone who got a raise and say "what about them?  Why should we take a pay cut if they didn't?" 

The cop could have been an idiot...  I'd like to hear both sides of that story before.. actually, no I wouldn't, I really don't care enough to want to hear anything about it at all.

 

Kasich pays a smaller group of people a smaller amount of money to do the job a larger group of people making a larger amount of money did under the previous administration.  The small group makes more individually because they are, essentially, doing more work than their respective predecessors.

 

This is only going to be "a long four years" if the left keeps nitpicking non-issues and trying to make stories out of them.

Another one from the Blade. A Valentine letter to Kasich from Marilou Johanek.

 

Article published February 10, 2011

Will Kasich be our valentine?

 

Dear John:

 

Now that the wooing, the triumph, and the honeymoon are over, where is the plethora of jobs you promised? Kidding. Just as no one could expect your predecessor to singlehandedly lasso the recession in a year or produce full employment in the next, few expect the Kasich job bonanza to start for at least another month or two. No pressure. Ohioans are patient - to a point. Understanding too. You stumbled out of the starting gate in preparing for your gubernatorial duties by whining about the state's open records laws and initially barring media from covering your inauguration. That was bad form. But we gave you the benefit of the doubt, as a newbie chief executive still heady after your defeat of a much better known incumbent governor. You got carried away with yourself. It happens.

 

In your mind, you were swept into office by a mandate, even though fewer than half of Ohioans who voted chose you. It was discontent that made you governor, and intoxicating power that made your trademark cockiness and arrogance compete for attention. That striking hubris was evident in the initial all-white makeup of your cabinet, the dismissive shrug you gave to critics over its lack of diversity, and the insult and injury you inflicted with a resolution honoring Martin Luther King, Jr., on St. Patrick's Day.

 

Those were growing pains, right? A sharp learning curve in public relations was hastily mastered and now you get it. The governor is answerable to the electorate, not to a board of directors impervious to anything but profit margins. But rumor has it you're still acting like a showman, throwing around bumper-sticker slogans and concocting money-making schemes. You're not playing investment banker or Fox News pundit anymore...

 

CONTINUED ON BLADE SITE

http://www.toledoblade.com/article/20110210/COLUMNIST13/102090323/0/RSS02

 

I hate articles with that kind of tone. I think that they can actually turn a reader away, even ones who dont support him.

Not defending Kasich but that letter from the AFSCME union rep does little to draw my support to him.  What's the relevance of Kasich's staff salaries when the discussion is about balancing the state budget?  Seems like Mr. Blythe would point at anyone who got a raise and say "what about them?  Why should we take a pay cut if they didn't?" 

 

Imagine a school levy fails and the district starts firing teachers. After the firings, the administrators raise their salaries. That's exactly what John Kasich is doing with his cronies.

The small group makes more individually because they are, essentially, doing more work than their respective predecessors.

 

Where's the proof in this? Where are all those jobs he promised? It's February already! :wink:

Imagine a school levy fails and the district starts firing teachers. After the firings, the administrators raise their salaries. That's exactly what John Kasich is doing with his cronies.

 

No.  It's not exactly what Kasich is doing.  Nobody is getting fired.  Asking public union employees to pay a larger share of their retirement and benefits is exactly what is being done.

^The retirement pension for the public employees is part of their compensation package.  They are paid the salary that the "job market" supports.  How would you feel if a minority of the population started screaming that *you* were paid too much and needed a pay cut?

The cop could have been an idiot...  I'd like to hear both sides of that story before.. actually, no I wouldn't, I really don't care enough to want to hear anything about it at all.

 

Kasich pays a smaller group of people a smaller amount of money to do the job a larger group of people making a larger amount of money did under the previous administration.  The small group makes more individually because they are, essentially, doing more work than their respective predecessors.

 

This is only going to be "a long four years" if the left keeps nitpicking non-issues and trying to make stories out of them.

 

I agree. And of course, the conservative-right did this with Strickland. Same stories, different governors.

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