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and speaking of costs, you cant really push to cut costs, but then propose the latest cadillac elevated systems. a corolla ibx in an old row line will do.

 

however, of course i would demand this fancy rem type elevated/automated system on some future all new line, like say from queens to brooklyn along the east river. like where diblasio once proposed a trolley. wouldn’t that be cool and nice?

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1 hour ago, mrnyc said:

and speaking of costs, you cant really push to cut costs, but then propose the latest cadillac elevated systems. a corolla ibx in an old row line will do.

 

however, of course i would demand this fancy rem type elevated/automated system on some future all new line, like say from queens to brooklyn along the east river. like where diblasio once proposed a trolley. wouldn’t that be cool and nice?

G’ahhh I’m not saying it should be elevated. That was never my point. I’m saying it should be automated, because that improves frequency and reduces station size. So both operating costs and capital costs are lower. For a better system! And REM is less expensive per mile than anything NYC has done in generations. 

When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?

1 hour ago, Boomerang_Brian said:

G’ahhh I’m not saying it should be elevated. That was never my point. I’m saying it should be automated, because that improves frequency and reduces station size. So both operating costs and capital costs are lower. For a better system! And REM is less expensive per mile than anything NYC has done in generations. 

 

yes the ibx is in an old gulley with an existing row, that is quite different from the rem which is an all new build elevated rail line. there is a video of the ibx route on the ny transit thread.

 

as to being automated, it may be, or to some degree. its being discussed. its doesnt need to be though because it doesnt need to be so speedy, but whatever works best -- manned, manned with ptc, or full auto, or whatever it is when they get to that which is durable, cheap and fast to build out will be fine. 

On 7/30/2023 at 10:21 AM, Boomerang_Brian said:

Providing lousy bus service is very expensive

 

Comparisons between one of the largest cities in the world and one of the geographically largest countries in the world are false. Compare NYC, London, Paris and Singapore perhaps, or Russia, the US and Indonesia. This doesn't prove anything. 

1 hour ago, westerninterloper said:

Comparisons between one of the largest cities in the world and one of the geographically largest countries in the world are false. Compare NYC, London, Paris and Singapore perhaps, or Russia, the US and Indonesia. This doesn't prove anything. 

It proves that providing quality transit is much less expensive when your cities are designed for more density. 

When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?

4 hours ago, Boomerang_Brian said:

It proves that providing quality transit is much less expensive when your cities are designed for more density. 

 

Which in the USA, outside of a few specific geographical areas, is only desired by a limited number of people.  

 

A lot of American urbanists often seem to forget that.  Creating new dense areas all too often leads to blight in the old ones.

2 hours ago, E Rocc said:

A lot of American urbanists often seem to forget that.  Creating new dense areas all too often leads to blight in the old ones. 

 

I'm pretty certain that's a fairly recent, uniquely American occurrence and it's not guided by density. You are familiar  with Euclid and Maple heights, are you not?

 

11 minutes ago, viscomi said:

 

I'm pretty certain that's a fairly recent, uniquely American occurrence and it's not guided by density. You are familiar  with Euclid and Maple heights, are you not?

 

 I might be since I grew up in one and live near the other.

 

It's not guided so much by density as the limited affinity for same in the non-coastal USA.

4 hours ago, E Rocc said:

 

Which in the USA, outside of a few specific geographical areas, is only desired by a limited number of people.  

 

A lot of American urbanists often seem to forget that.  Creating new dense areas all too often leads to blight in the old ones.

You keep saying this and you continue to be wrong about it. Nearly all of the most expensive areas of this country are dense, walkable neighborhoods. Even in this area, generally the highest rents are in walkable neighborhoods. This is because lots of Americans want to live in these neighborhoods and there aren’t enough of them, so the prices go up. The issue is that improper zoning prevents more of these areas from being developed. 
 

We need to keep in mind that this doesn’t mean everyone has to live downtown. Even just having more of the suburbs look like downtown Willoughby or even downtown Hudson, rather than endless single family homes on big lots on cul-de-sacs, would be a big improvement. With more of those dense nodes, they could then be interconnected in a much more efficient fashion. Beyond zoning, building codes for SFH are very lax, while codes for multi-family are much more strict and often not reflective of global best practices, artificially increasing the costs of the latter compared to the former. For example, there is no good reason for requiring access to two staircases in a mid rise building built from non-combustible materials that also has sprinklers. Yet that’s a requirement in the US and Canada, meaning that we can’t build the point-access blocks that are the norm everywhere else. Instead we have those depressing double-loaded corridors. Point-access blocks enable much better layouts and lower construction costs. And those places also have much lower fire death rates, so don’t try to claim a safety as a reason. If anything, it’s safety theater and it results in a double whammy of increasing costs and making those multi-family homes worse. 
 

Any form of quality, efficient transportation HAS to be based on dense new or existing development around it. @KJP’s latest neo-trans article does a great job of describing a way we can do that here even without extending our rapid transit system. 

When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?

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On 8/5/2023 at 5:53 AM, E Rocc said:

 

Which in the USA, outside of a few specific geographical areas, is only desired by a limited number of people.  

 

A lot of American urbanists often seem to forget that.  Creating new dense areas all too often leads to blight in the old ones.

 

 

absolutely wrong.

 

there are 78 total cities all over the usa with rail transit and three u/c.

 

plus amtrak.

 

watch something besides fox news once in awhile.  😂

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i dk if we can't even bus stop anymore or people just like to whine --

 

 

 

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Holy schmoly!

 

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

3 hours ago, KJP said:

Holy schmoly!

 

 

I was one of them!   

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paris on the metro move!

 

 

Paris is getting a whole new Metro network. And it’s huge

 

By Xiaofei Xu, CNN

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Updated 9:39 AM EST, Tue December 5, 2023

 

 

ParisCNN — 

With gorgeous art nouveau entrances, maze-like tunnels and trains that rattle briskly under, and occasionally over, some of the world’s most famous streets, it’s a transport network that has inspired movies, novels and poetry.

 

It has stations named after a South American revolutionary, a US president and a Soviet victory. Fittingly, in a city that is home to some of the world’s most famous galleries, some of the stations are considered works of art in their own right.

 

But the Paris Métro railway system, built in the 1900s and now carrying nearly four million passengers every day, is struggling to cope with the demands of modern commuting, its ageing facilities and infrastructure creaking under the city’s growing population.

 

 

more:

https://www.cnn.com/travel/paris-new-metro-network/index.html

 

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The under-construction Grand Paris Express took a step nearer completion last month with the successful test run of a train along a section of line 15, one of several new routes.

 

 

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berlin ubahn 1980s —

 

 

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Washington Metro is upping speeds from 58 mph to 75 mph. They claim it will save a $2.3 million a year.  75 was the system's design speed in 1976 but it was reduced to 58 about 10 years later. Now almost 40 years after that, we're back where we started.

 

 

https://www.wusa9.com/article/traffic/mission-metro/metro-trains-maximum-allowable-speed/65-488c0322-b12b-49a9-a2b0-2210271ef996?fbclid=IwAR0IqF9yiimOK3c6wbBzww0_lJZnbRfg91CECPVMYwTD2ZhObhwSsaDCpIo

Remember: It's the Year of the Snake

 

a new b1m honolulu skyline video --

 

 

 

rare view of pyongyang subway --

 

 

 

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The Kansas City Streetcar makes a cameo in this week's NY Post:

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montreal —

 

 

Societe de transport de Montreal (STM) recently awarded a contract for the Blue Line extension's new train-control system to Ground Transportation Systems Canada Inc.

 

The contract includes installation, maintenance and certain options for a communications-based train control (CBTC) system. The project is funded primarily by the Quebec government, with some support from STM.

 

The CBTC system is designed to improve train reliability, frequency and passenger comfort when trains stop and start. It will be installed first on the existing Blue Line and then later on the extension.

 

The 3.7-mile Blue Line extension — which is under construction — will include five new stations east of Saint-Michel Station. The project office recently issued a final call for tenders for the construction of the tunnel and the excavation of some of the future stations and auxiliary structures.

seattle —

 

 

 

Meanwhile, Sound Transit has announced that the initial segment of the Link 2 Line will open to passenger service on April 27 in Seattle.

 

The 6.5-mile segment of the East Link light-rail extension includes eight new stations in Bellevue and Redmond. The initial segment will terminate at the South Bellevue Station at the west end and the Redmond Technology Station on the east.

 

"With the opening of the 2 Line on the Eastside this spring and our major expansion into Snohomish County this fall, we're bringing the convenience of light rail to hundreds of thousands more people across the region," said Sound Transit Chair Dow Constantine in a news release.

 

The full 2 Line is expected to open in 2025. The Downtown Redmond Link Extension is also scheduled to open in 2025, with the Marymoor Village and Downtown Redmond stations completing the 2 Line.

 

 

more:

https://www.progressiverailroading.com/passenger_rail/news/Montreal-Seattle-transit-systems-update-rail-expansion-plans--71272

^So Link 2 isn't going to cross the lake at first?  The tax for this thing passed in 1996.   It'll be 2025 and two additional ballot issues/taxes to get what was promised voters almost 30 years ago. 

 

 

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growth again is good news — 👍

 

 

 

Los Angeles Transit Ridership Grew in 2023

 

Metro attributes the growth to new destinations, added security, and a streamlined train system.

 

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A Metro light rail train at Pico Aliso station near downtown Los Angeles, California. | Markus Mainka / Adobe Stock

 

 

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Atlanta MARTA expansion:
One station will be at Murphy Crossing along the Beltline’s Westside Trail, meaning the popular mixed-use trail loop will soon be connected to heavy rail. The other three stations will be “in-fill” stations between existing stops, but the specific locations were not immediately available.

 

 

 

When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?

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They will all be infill stations. Need more lines and extensions of existing lines.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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post covid transit continues to recover — now to 79% pre covid levels —

 

 

 

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APTA: Transit-ridership levels continue post-pandemic recovery

4/11/2024

 

 

Public transit ridership has recovered to 79% of pre-pandemic levels after falling to 20% of pre-pandemic levels in April 2020, the American Public Transportation Association(APTA) announced this week.

 

Transit riders took 7.1 billion trips in 2023, a 16% increase over 2022's level, APTA officials said in a press release. Public transportation ridership levels increased throughout last year, even though office occupancy rates remained stagnant, according to an APTA policy brief.

 

"Success in ridership recovery has been dependent on transit-service delivery and reliability and external factors, such as the makeup of local economies," said APTA President and CEO Paul Skoutelas. "As clearly illustrated during the pandemic, public transportation provides mobility to essential workers, which has sustained transit ridership over the past four years. Public transit agencies continue to develop innovative solutions that are powering this ridership recover."

 

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Transit riders took 7.1 billion trips in 2023, a 16% increase over 2022's level, according to APTA. Photo – shutterstock.com

 

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Why would a buddy of mine have seen six BART cars on flatbed semis being towed up I-71 today?

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