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http://www.espn.com/college-football/rankings

 

Ohio State is up to #8 in both polls (probably top 10 in the CFP rankings tomorrow, likely #8 there as well).

 

Chaos needs to reign a la 2007, but there's an outside shot they can still make the playoffs.

 

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/page/RoadtoAtlanta111217/answer-just-got-lot-more-complicated

 

Miami and Clemson will face off in a defacto playoff quarterfinal in the ACC title game (assuming neither stumble too much the last couple weeks) - that's 1 spot.  Another spot is going to the SEC champ (Alabama, probably).  Oklahoma seems to have a lock on a top 4 spot, but they'll face a tough opponent in the Big 12 title game.  That could be real chaos if they lose to say, a two-loss TCU in a rematch.

 

So for now, that's safely 3 spots - 1) Bama/SEC, 2) Clemson/Miami winner, 3) Oklahoma.

 

The 4th spot is up for grabs.  Surely, an undefeated AND Big Ten champ Wisconsin would get in.  Who are they on track to play in the Big 10 title game?  Ohio State.  They play Michigan and Minnesota to wrap up their regular season.

 

Let's say Ohio State does win out and beats Wisconsin.  Who else is in play for that 4th spot?  Auburn, but they play Alabama in two weeks.  The winner will go on to play in the SEC title game.  Georgia is the other team in the mix, the SEC East representative.  By virtue of playing each other (Bama v. Auburn, winner v. Georgia) AT LEAST two losses will be had by two of the three SEC teams in the top 8.  That puts OSU in the driver's seat provided they take care of business.

 

Is there any chance to teams behind Ohio State jumping them?  Not likely.  Those teams are 2-loss Notre Dame without a conference championship.  Oklahoma State - 2 losses and without a conference championship (assuming it's TCU v. Oklahoma).  TCU - a 2 loss team who could jump up with a Big 12 title win.  I'm not sure how the committee would judge Big Ten champ OSU vs. Big 12 champ TCU with the same records.  USC with 2 losses could be in the mix with a Pac-12 title.

 

It's a very real possibility if OSU wins out they're in the College Football Playoff for a third time.

 

Have fun with scenarios here - https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2017-college-football-predictions/?ex_cid=rrpromo

Very Stable Genius

I can see the math for how we have an outside shot.  But for what it's worth, in this particular season, I almost hope we don't get it.  The likely result of that would be Wisconsin playing an overmatched opponent in a non-playoff bowl game that wouldn't add much credibility to the league and OSU likely up against a level of competition that, with Oklahoma (and with Iowa and even arguably with Penn State) we've already shown that Barrett and the Buckeyes cannot handle.  If we're the #4 team, as we almost certainly would be, and playing a #1 Alabama, I think we more likely end up with a Clemson-type drubbing than with a surprise win like we got with Ezekiel Elliott.  Barrett is too vulnerable, and the entire defense is not really living up to the Silver Bullets reputation this year.  Good, yes.  Top 20, definitely.  Top 10, likely.  Top 4?  (Top 1?)  I'm not sure that we're really the best representative of this conference in the CFP this year.  Granted, we'll likely have the conference title game to figure that out--or a loss before then, quite conceivably.  We do still play away at Michigan.

^ Forget that lame NatChamp trophy - we want the Illibuck!

 

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OSU ranked lower than I expected to see them last night but they still have a fairly clear path to the final four.

 

OSU currently at #8 (10-2)

 

- beat Wisconsin (doesn't have to be a blowout, but a clean game, decisive win would be good)

 

- Clemson beats Miami.  Clemson stays in top 4, Miami drops out of top 10 with 2 recent losses

 

- Auburn beats Georgia.  Georgia drops back with 2 losses, no conf title.  This game could go the other way & probably help by pushing Auburn out (3 losses) and Alabama farther down

 

- Oklahoma beats TCU. 

 

Of all these scenarios, I think the riskiest matchup is OSU winning their game.  Wisconsin is a good team, plays hard on both sides, well coached.  OSU needs to start fast & build a lead.  If they can get Wisconsin out of the run-first game plan, it could allow the defense to make some more plays.  Would also love to see Weber/Dobbins get 25+ carries.  Would take so much pressure off Barrett & the passing game

#8 is exactly where they should be after the turd they laid in Iowa City.  Who would you have them ahead of in the top 7?

 

SEC title game = winner in, loser out

ACC title game = winner in, loser out

 

Those two games are irrelevant to Ohio State.

 

You'd probably rather have Stanford win the Pac-12 to ensure all Pac-12 teams in contention have 3 losses (and are out of the playoffs for sure).

 

TCU/OU - I don't know.  I've read some places that TCU winning is more helpful (it throws the final two spots into chaos a bit).

 

OSU obviously has to win.  If they do, they'll be up against one-loss Alabama who didn't win their division and has zero top 15 wins.  OSU will have 2 top ten wins (Wisconsin, Penn State) and a blow out of #16 MSU, plus a conference championship.  That should be enough to forgive the clunker against Iowa and the loss to Oklahoma looks ok if OU steamrolls to a Big 12 title.

 

On 538, you can "simulate" these games and the best I can get to is 81-82% chance to get in.  For that to happen winners need to be Memphis (pretty irrelevant), Ohio State, Stanford, Clemson, Auburn, and TCU.

 

Top 4 in that case would go Clemson, Auburn, Ohio State, and...maybe Alabama?

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I don't think OSU deserves to be in the playoff this year, and if they do get there, I think it would be a quick and embarrassing exit again. I'd love to see them match up against USC in the Rose Bowl, though. Both seem to be pretty evenly matched teams that are having parallel seasons.

So, apparently J.T. Barrett has been nursing a right knee injury from before the first game of this season(!).  Then, before the start of the Michigan game, he gets bumped into by a cameraman, which reaggravates his knee injury and contributes to Barrett leaving "The Game" in the 3rd quarter.

 

Redshirt freshman backup QB Dwayne Haskins, Jr. comes in and rallies the Buckeyes from a 14-20 deficit to a 31-20 victory, going 6 of 7 for 94 yards passing and rushing for 24 yards.

 

Then Barrett has arthroscopic surgery on his right knee Sunday.  So, going into tonight's B1G championship game, it is being reported that Barrett has been medically cleared to play, but Urban Meyer will only say that Barrett is a game-time decision.

 

Will Barrett pull a Willis Reed and lead the Buckeyes to victory?  Or will Haskins be 2017's Cardale Jones?

I seriously have no idea what to expect from this title game.  If the team that showed up in the second half of the Penn State game shows up, we could absolutely annihilate Wisconsin, just as we did the year we won the title with Cardale Jones (a 59-0 rofflestomp that got us up to the #4 spot in the FBS playoff ranking).  If the team that showed up at Iowa shows up, we will absolutely embarrass ourselves on primetime TV.

Lots of crazy stuff going on this game and those turnovers absolutely kept us from having the kind of dominating win that would let us jump 4 spaces (we were #5 in 2014 when a 59-0 performance let us jump 1 space).

 

But among all the other crazy things that happened this game ...

 

... can we get a moment of appreciative sympathy for that poor groundskeeper or whoever that was trying to fix the turf in the end zone after the seam literally broke and the whole sheet of turf got torn up off the ground?  With the absolutely relentless sky cam hovering above him for however long it took?

Good Lord, JT sucks.  That game isn't close with a competent QB.

Very Stable Genius

Lots of crazy stuff going on this game and those turnovers absolutely kept us from having the kind of dominating win that would let us jump 4 spaces (we were #5 in 2014 when a 59-0 performance let us jump 1 space).

 

But among all the other crazy things that happened this game ...

 

... can we get a moment of appreciative sympathy for that poor groundskeeper or whoever that was trying to fix the turf in the end zone after the seam literally broke and the whole sheet of turf got torn up off the ground?  With the absolutely relentless sky cam hovering above him for however long it took?

 

LOL, the sky cam is a cruel mistress.

Lots of crazy stuff going on this game and those turnovers absolutely kept us from having the kind of dominating win that would let us jump 4 spaces (we were #5 in 2014 when a 59-0 performance let us jump 1 space).

 

But among all the other crazy things that happened this game ...

 

... can we get a moment of appreciative sympathy for that poor groundskeeper or whoever that was trying to fix the turf in the end zone after the seam literally broke and the whole sheet of turf got torn up off the ground?  With the absolutely relentless sky cam hovering above him for however long it took?

 

I felt terrible for that guy.  Maybe one day they'll make a movie about him, like Sully the pilot.

so was this win enough to do anything for the bucks as far as getting into the playoffs?

well there it is.

 

if osu got in and not alabama that wouldnt be right.

 

seems like they got the right four.

 

if osu lost wisconsin should have got in over alabama though.

 

 

 

Alabama already a betting favorite over top seed Clemson...  lots of talk about the "trust factor" that OSU cannot be trusted, as in, you have no idea what this team will do.  Between looking brilliant and looking hapless, it really is a coin toss

Committee is consistent, thus OSU getting in last year.

 

It's not the same, though.  OSU last year was 3-1 against the CFP top 8 teams (that's a helluva schedule to navigate...and they only lost once, on the road, on a fluky special teams play).  Alabama this year is 0-1 against the top 16 of the CFP.  Basically if OSU had scheduled Mercer instead of Oklahoma they're probably in.

 

If Alabama had better wins, then sure I'd say they would have the edge.  But they played a crap schedule outside of one game, which they lost.  OSU went 3-1 against top 16 opponents this season.  That should, imo, trump the 31-point loss at Iowa.

Very Stable Genius

I admit I didn't even realize Alabama's schedule was that weak.  That's a seriously down year for the SEC in that event, especially for them to get two teams in.

Committee is consistent, thus OSU getting in last year.

 

It's not the same, though.  OSU last year was 3-1 against the CFP top 8 teams (that's a helluva schedule to navigate...and they only lost once, on the road, on a fluky special teams play).  Alabama this year is 0-1 against the top 16 of the CFP.  Basically if OSU had scheduled Mercer instead of Oklahoma they're probably in.

 

If Alabama had better wins, then sure I'd say they would have the edge.  But they played a crap schedule outside of one game, which they lost.  OSU went 3-1 against top 16 opponents this season.  That should, imo, trump the 31-point loss at Iowa.

 

To be fair, Florida State was #3 at the beginning of the season, so they at least attempted to play a decent schedule.

I feel bad for Buckeye fans that Iowa inexplicably lost to Purdue.  They win that game and more than likely they are in the top 25 in the rankings and maybe that gets OSU into the National Title.

 

Also, Iowa had every chance to beat NW as well, lost to them in OT, dropped a touchdown pass on 4th to lose in OT 17-10

 

If OSU had lost to a 9-3 Iowa team it would be different.  Heck, you could even argue if Iowa's DB jumped 1 inch higher, they would have beat Penn State too.  Game of inches from 7-5 or 10-2 for Iowa this year.  My take, Iowa wasn't a bad 7-5 team, they were a good team which played lights out while OSU played crappy, which resulted in the blow out blitz of the Buckeyes.

Well, sure, but another inch here or there could also have prevented our comeback against Penn State and we wouldn't even be in the conversation.

I think we'll be better next year with Haskins in there.  JT is just so bad on throws over 15 yards down the field, especially since the departure of Devin Smith and Michael Thomas.

 

I predict we'll go 15-0 next year with Haskins since the offense won't be so JT-reliant running the ball.  Haskins isn't as good there - more of a Cardale-esque big arm who can scoot when needed but not as shifty as Barrett.

Very Stable Genius

Well, sure, but another inch here or there could also have prevented our comeback against Penn State and we wouldn't even be in the conversation.

 

Yeah no doubt, I just think if Iowa ended up in the top 25 and actualy showed up vs. Purdue, then people wouldn't be saying that Ohio State had a bad loss to a mediocre team, more like they got blitzed by a good team but their overall record is better.  Who knows, but it was a tough call for the committee I'm sure.  WE will see how the B1G does this bowl season, seems we have a lot of good match ups.  It was of my opinion the conference was really tough from 1-8

I predict we'll go 15-0 next year with Haskins since the offense won't be so JT-reliant running the ball.  Haskins isn't as good there - more of a Cardale-esque big arm who can scoot when needed but not as shifty as Barrett.

 

I don't think we've got that in the tank.  In addition to Barrett being gone (and when he's on, he's definitely on), I'm still something of a skeptic about Mike Weber (though maybe Dobbins will leapfrog him and make real strides in the offseason).  None of them are Ezekiel Elliott, though.  I don't even think they're Carlos Hyde.

I predict we'll go 15-0 next year with Haskins since the offense won't be so JT-reliant running the ball.  Haskins isn't as good there - more of a Cardale-esque big arm who can scoot when needed but not as shifty as Barrett.

 

I don't think we've got that in the tank.  In addition to Barrett being gone (and when he's on, he's definitely on), I'm still something of a skeptic about Mike Weber (though maybe Dobbins will leapfrog him and make real strides in the offseason).  None of them are Ezekiel Elliott, though.  I don't even think they're Carlos Hyde.

 

Dobbins just set the freshman rushing record at Ohio State.  I think we're fine.

 

Not sure how much Weber's hamstring injury hindered his season.  Would be nice to get those guys going as a 1/2 punch (think: USC with Lendale White and Reggie Bush).  Weber IS draft-eligible.

 

Guys on offense to replace (as of now - could be some early draft guys leave unexpectedly or transfer): JT, Price (center), Jones (left tackle), Baugh (tight end).  That's it.

 

On defense: Lewis, Holmes, Hubbard, Sprinkle, Worley, Ward (probably), Erick Smith (safety) - a possibility that another LB leaves (Baker?) and Dremont Jones at DT might leave as well.

 

Secondary might be a concern if Ward leaves early.

Very Stable Genius

^I think Ohio State is set up really well for next year.

 

Weber seemed to look really good as the season progressed, really good 1-2 punch with he and Dobbins, though as someone stated earlier no Zeke.  Zeke was basically a franchise once every 15 year type player, you can see how good he makes the Cowboys which is crazy.  He basically sucks the whole defensive back 7 in, which is huge.  No one else really does that, except maybe Barkley but they kind of screwed that up with their spread offense and they didn't have the o-line OSU had when they won the natty in 2014.

 

The only thing I'd be concerned about for Ohio State really is Michigan.  I know I may get blasted for this but if they find a competent QB in year 4 of Harbaugh they are going to be a tough out for everyone in the conference, with the depth he is building there similar and close to the scope of OSU but maybe a touch lower.  His Pro-Style offense when humming is a tough out for everyone.  Besides Michigan, I don't see PSU being as strong this year losing their QB most likely and definitely Barkley.

 

 

^Michigan lost a ton of players this past year.  This season was a true rebuilding year.  Next year they are stacked, they hardly lose anyone.  The QB position killed them this year.  O'Korn was terrible. 

^Yeah I agree, I think that Peters or maybe Peterson looks really good for a young guy and they also got the younger McCaffrey redshirting this year as a highly touted QB (Christian McCaffrey out of Stanford now for Carolina Panthers is his older brother)

  • 4 weeks later...

so Stanford & Wash State both lost their bowl games yesterday.  Not impressed at all with Washington State - they got dominated by a pretty average MSU team in what I'd call a sloppy game.  Makes me wonder how strong the Pac 12 actually is this year and what we'll see from USC tonight vs OSU.  I haven't watched them play at all.  All I know is they have a good QB.  I hope OSU can get up on them quickly and force them into passing mistakes when our pass rush can really get after them.

The Big Ten is off to a 3-0 start in bowls - The Wildcat Bowl is at 4:30 today, the Bucks take on USC at 8:30.

 

Two more teams play tomorrow (PSU vs. Washington and Wisconsin vs. (at?) Miami).

 

Michigan caps it off against South Carolina on the 1st.

 

 

Very Stable Genius

-- Before the CFB Playoff Era, Ohio State winning the Big Ten and facing the PAC-12 champ USC in the Rose Bowl would generate a near maximum level of excitement in Buckeye Nation.

 

-- During the CFB Playoff Era, Ohio State finishing #5 and facing #8 USC in the Cotton Bowl generated a "meh" in Buckeye Nation.

 

At least OSU played a pretty great game, beating USC 24-7:  http://www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore?gameId=400953404

 

OSU's defense made USC's offense (and possible #1 draft pick QB Sam Darnold) look very ordinary last night.  They sacked Darnold 8 times, forced a pick-6 INT, forced two fumble turnovers from Darnold, and got one more fumble turnover for 4 total turnovers in the game.  OSU's offense was just adequate, but JT Barrett got two more rushing TD's in his final game as a Buckeye.

  • 2 weeks later...

The Grinch is coming to Columbus!  No, its not absentee Crew owner Andrew Precourt nor MLS Commish Don Garber.  It's Alex Grinch, most recently the defensive coordinator for Washington State.

 

In the past three seasons, Grinch has taken the Washington State defense from one of worst in the PAC-12 to one of the best.  Grinch also has some local and Ohio ties - he was raised in Grove City and won three NCAA Division III National Championships as a member of the storied Mount Union football program.

 

In the first two stories previewing his official announcement, it was reported that he would be co-defensive coordinator with current DC Greg Schiano.  But after his official announcement, the Dispatch reported that he will be an assistant under Schiano.  However, this might be a difference without a distinction.  If Schiano gets another head coaching offer - as he almost did from Tennessee recently - Grinch could easily slid into the DC spot:

 

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2018/01/89982/alex-grinch-to-join-ohio-state-coaching-staff-per-report

 

https://www.landgrantholyland.com/2018/1/4/16851076/ohio-state-football-alex-grinch-co-defensive-coordinator-washington-state-football

 

http://www.dispatch.com/sports/20180108/ohio-state-football-grinch-officially-added-as-defensive-assistant-coach

Early draftees gone: Denzel Ward, Sam Hubbard, Jerome Baker

 

Baker is a head scratcher - he had a pretty bad 2017 compared to 2016.  Was a preseason 1st rounder and isn't projected much higher than the 2nd round now.  More likely a 3rd round pick.

Very Stable Genius

Early draftees gone: Denzel Ward, Sam Hubbard, Jerome Baker

 

Baker is a head scratcher - he had a pretty bad 2017 compared to 2016.  Was a preseason 1st rounder and isn't projected much higher than the 2nd round now.  More likely a 3rd round pick.

 

For linebackers that's really not an issue; it's a volatile position just like running back.  There are constantly linebackers retiring and getting hurt so teams carry a lot more of them.  He'll put up great numbers and get drafted in the late 1st-early 2nd based on that, his film and ability to be a 3 down player.   

  • 4 weeks later...

National Signing Day:  Ohio State went into today with the No. 2-ranked recruiting class in the country, behind Georgia and ahead of Texas, according to the 247sports composite rankings:

 

https://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/CompositeTeamRankings

 

Today, the Buckeyes received commitments from 5-Star OT Nicholas Petit-Frere and 4-Star DE Javontae Jean-Baptiste, in addition to all the commitments from their early-signing day in December for this class.  Petit-Frere is rated as nation's No. 1 offensive tackle prospect and the No. 7 overall prospect by 247sports:

 

http://www.dispatch.com/sports/20180207/ohio-state-football--buckeyes-add-nations-no1-tackle-to-2018-class

 

https://www.landgrantholyland.com/2017/12/17/16763530/ohio-state-football-2018-national-signing-day

 

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football-recruiting/2018/02/90910/ohio-state-secures-highest-rated-recruiting-class-in-program-history

  • 1 month later...

An interesting bit of news that actually relates more to an Ohio city (other than Columbus!) than most OSU football topics:

 

Former OSU Quarterback Cardale Jones is Now an Ohio Deputy Sheriff

 

https://www.ohio.com/akron/news/ohiocentric/former-ohio-state-quarterback-cardale-jones-now-an-ohio-deputy-sheriff

 

(He's also still on the roster for the LA Chargers, so apparently no one in the Port Clinton area is likely to actually get pulled over for going 59-0ver the speed limit anytime soon.)

  • 3 weeks later...

The Spring Game is coming up this Saturday.  Which ends team practices until they are allowed to resume later in the summer.  There's always new players to hear about and spots to be filled by players waiting on the deep chart.  However, this spring a spot has opened up that has been mostly closed for the past three years - QB:

 

http://www.dispatch.com/sports/20180411/ohio-state-football--urban-meyer-says-quarterback-battle-continues

 

The QB spot has been J.T. Barrett's for the past three seasons (although memorably shared with Cardale Jones briefly).  But now the QB spot is up for grabs between these three candidates:

 

- Joe Burrow (redshirt junior)

- Dwayne Haskins Jr. (redshirt sophomore)

- Tate Martell (redshirt freshman)

 

Burrow was Barrett's backup in 2016.  He was set to be the 2017 backup until he broke a bone in his throwing hand during training camp.  Haskins ended up being the backup in 2017 instead.  Martell is a highly sought after dual-threat QB from Las Vegas who ran the scout-team last year.

 

A complicating factor is that Burrow is expected to earn his degree in June and would be eligible to transfer and play immediately at a new school as a graduate transfer.  It is speculated that Burrow might transfer if he is not named this season's starter.

 

So far, Coach Meyer has not named a starting QB for 2018 - and he not indicated that any one of the three QB candidates have separated themselves from the group.

An interesting bit of news that actually relates more to an Ohio city (other than Columbus!) than most OSU football topics:

 

Former OSU Quarterback Cardale Jones is Now an Ohio Deputy Sheriff

 

https://www.ohio.com/akron/news/ohiocentric/former-ohio-state-quarterback-cardale-jones-now-an-ohio-deputy-sheriff

 

(He's also still on the roster for the LA Chargers, so apparently no one in the Port Clinton area is likely to actually get pulled over for going 59-0ver the speed limit anytime soon.)

 

He didn't join the Sheriffs to play cop

It's still on: Ohio State Spring Game moved to new time:  https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2018/04/13/its-stillon-ohio-state-spring-game-moved-to-new.html

 

Looming ominous weather has caused many Big Ten teams in the Upper Midwest to cancel their Spring Games scheduled for today.  But Ohio State is going ahead with their Spring Game.  Although they did move up the start time from 1:45PM to 11:45AM to avoid any thunderstorms.

 

Buckeye fans bought up all 79,000 tickets offered up for this Spring Game (this 79,000 figure doesn't include OSU students and children under the age of 6, who get into the game free).  Approx. 18,000 seats are unavailable due to construction work on the B and C decks.

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http://www.dispatch.com/news/20180420/former-ohio-state-coach-earle-bruce-has-died-at-87

 

Former OSU football coach Earle Bruce passed away yesterday.  Earle Bruce was OSU's head coach for nine seasons from 1979 to 1987.  He had the misfortune of being the first head coach to follow the legendary Woody Hayes and to not win a national championship during his tenure at Ohio State.  Although he came very close in his first season (1979) when a 1-point loss to USC in the Rose Bowl prevented it.

 

After that initial 11-1 season, Bruce had six straight 9-3 seasons (and was called "ole 9-3") before a rebound 10-3 season in 1986 that saw OSU tie for 1st in the Big Ten and then a disappointing 6-4-1 season in 1987 that led to his firing.  OSU won or tied the Big Ten title four times in his nine seasons.

 

He also had a 5-4 record against Michigan.  The most memorable win over Michigan being his final game as the Buckeye's head coach in 1987 (it was announced that he would be fired after the game).  Bruce led an underdog team into Ann Arbor wearing a suit and fedora hat (the same he wore the previous season in their Cotton Bowl win) and was carried off the field by his team after the victory.

 

Earle Bruce was inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame in 2002.  Bruce also had many assistants who would go on to become prominent head coaches: Urban Meyer, Jim Tressel, Nick Saban and Pete Carroll.  After Bruce's coaching career ended in 2004, he was a regular presence at Ohio State practices and games, until a stroke in 2015 and an Alzheimer’s disease diagnosis last year.

  • 2 weeks later...

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http://www.dispatch.com/sports/20180428/nfl-draft--seven-ohio-state-players-taken-over-three-days-of-draft

 

The above graphic from the Dispatch article shows the seven OSU players chosen in the 2018 NFL draft and the six OSU players who signed free-agent contracts with NFL teams.

 

Perhaps the biggest surprise was the number of OSU players drafted by the two NFL teams located in Ohio (it doesn't happen often).  But this time three OSU players were drafted by the Browns and Bengals:

 

- Cleveland used their #4 overall pick in the first round to select CB Denzel Ward.

- Cincinnati used their #21 overall pick in the first round to select C Billy Price and their #77 overall pick in the third round to select DE Sam Hubbard.

  • 2 weeks later...

The QB spot has been J.T. Barrett's for the past three seasons (although memorably shared with Cardale Jones briefly).  But now the QB spot is up for grabs between these three candidates:

 

- Joe Burrow (redshirt junior)

- Dwayne Haskins Jr. (redshirt sophomore)

- Tate Martell (redshirt freshman)

 

Burrow was Barrett's backup in 2016.  He was set to be the 2017 backup until he broke a bone in his throwing hand during training camp.  Haskins ended up being the backup in 2017 instead.  Martell is a highly sought after dual-threat QB from Las Vegas who ran the scout-team last year.

 

A complicating factor is that Burrow is expected to earn his degree in June and would be eligible to transfer and play immediately at a new school as a graduate transfer.  It is speculated that Burrow might transfer if he is not named this season's starter.

 

So far, Coach Meyer has not named a starting QB for 2018 - and he not indicated that any one of the three QB candidates have separated themselves from the group.

 

Redshirt junior QB Joe Burrow graduated with a bachelor's degree on Sunday - and now he's made it official that he will be leaving OSU as a graduate transfer:

 

http://www.dispatch.com/sports/20180508/ohio-state-football-qb-joe-burrow-announces-plans-to-transfer

 

https://www.landgrantholyland.com/2018/5/8/17325876/ohio-state-quarterback-joe-burrow-to-transfer

 

As I posted earlier, this isn't a big surprise.  Burrow and Haskins looked to be nearly neck-and-neck for the 2018 starting QB spot - with Haskins probably having the advantage due to being the primary backup in 2017.  If Burrow was going to be an undisputed starter next season, it wasn't going to be at Ohio State.

 

As to where Joe Burrow might transfer, there are many candidates (examined in the below article).  Florida and LSU top the list, Nebraska and Ohio U. are also near the top because of family ties (Burrow's father and two older brothers played at Nebraska; Burrow is from Athens and his father currently coaches at OU).

 

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2018/05/93046/a-look-at-12-potential-destinations-for-transferring-ohio-state-quarterback-joe-burrow

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