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Ohio State senior cornerback Amir Riep and redshirt senior linebacker/safety Jahsen Wint were charged with rape and kidnapping by Columbus Police on Tuesday.

 

Both men were arrested and booked into the Franklin County Jail early Wednesday morning. The charges are first-degree felonies, and their arraignments are scheduled for Thursday morning.

 

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  • 2 weeks later...

Spring practice began on Monday.  I'm sure that Head Coach Ryan Day hoped for a smooth series of practices leading up to the Spring Football Game.  But that didn't happen. 

 

Reportedly on the first day of practice, presumptive starting running back for 2020 - Master Teague III - went down with an injury.  The team has only said that Teague is now classified as unavailable for the remainder of spring practice.  The team has not confirmed the nature of the injury or whether he will be ready for the start of the season in September, but a source told Eleven Warriors that Teague suffered an Achilles injury during Monday's practice.

 

More about that at https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2020/03/112542/running-back-master-teague-iii-will-miss-spring-practice-with-injury

 

Although the severity of the injury is unknown, Teague's questionable availability for 2020 will be an issue.  The running back corps was already a bit thin before Teague's injury.  Eleven Warriors looked the Buckeyes RB options for 2020 without Teague:  https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2020/03/112543/five-initial-impressions-how-master-teagues-injury-affects-ohio-states-running-back-situation

 

  • 2 weeks later...

With Master Teague going down with an Achilles injury, the Buckeyes needed some veteran running back help for next season's roster.  They got that yesterday when Trey Sermon - who rushed for more than 2,000 yards in three seasons at Oklahoma - announced he is transferring to Ohio State.

 

The 6-foot, 221-pound running back will be a graduate transfer with one year of remaining eligibility:

 

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2020/03/112792/former-oklahoma-running-back-trey-sermon-transferring-to-ohio-state

Reminds me a little of a kid names carlos hyde! Here's to  Trey, to having an amazing career vs TTUN! Maybe we can get a record setting performance out of him in The Game!

  • 3 weeks later...
  • 2 weeks later...

Three former Buckeyes -- Joe Burrow, Chase Young and Jeff Okudah -- were selected with the first three picks in the 2020 NFL Draft(!)

 

Yes I know, Burrow played the last two seasons for LSU.  But I said "former Buckeyes", and Burrow - like Young and Okudah - are former Buckeyes.  Later in the first round cornerback Damon Arnette was selected with the #19 overall pick.

 

Chase Young's selection gave the Buckeyes 82 first-round picks all-time - moving them one pick ahead of USC's total of 81 first-round selections.  The additional picks of Okudah and Arnette gave the OSU program 84 first-round picks all-time, while USC added one more first-rounder to have 82 at night's end:

 

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2020/04/113647/ohio-state-passes-usc-for-most-first-round-nfl-draft-picks-all-time

2020 DRAFT RECAP:  https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2020/04/113717/ohio-state-ties-for-second-among-all-schools-with-10-players-drafted-including-seven-top-100-picks

 

-- With 10 total picks in the 2020 draft, Ohio State was second only to LSU with 14; third in first-round picks behind LSU (5) and Alabama (4); and third with seven top-100 picks behind LSU (14) and Alabama (9)

 

-- Ohio State has had at least seven players selected in five consecutive NFL drafts, the second-longest streak among all schools behind only Alabama.

 

-- Ohio State has had 45 NFL draft picks in the past five years, also the second-most among all schools in the past five years behind only Alabama with 48.

 

-- And Ohio State now has 84 first-round picks all-time since the beginning of the NFL's modern draft in 1970; two more than second-place USC.

 

Here are the OSU players selected in the 2020 draft:

  • DE Chase Young to Washington with the #2 overall pick in the first round
  • CB Jeff Okudah to Detroit with the #3 overall pick in the first round
  • CB Damon Arnette to the Raiders with the #19 overall pick in the first round
  • RB J.K. Dobbins to Baltimore with the #55 overall pick in the second round
  • DT DaVon Hamilton to Jacksonville with the #73 overall pick in the third round
  • OL Jonah Jackson to Detroit with the #75 overall pick in the third round
  • LB Malik Harrison to Baltimore with the #98 overall pick in the third round
  • FS Jordan Fuller to the Rams with the #199 overall pick in the sixth round
  • WR K.J. Hill to the Chargers with the #220 overall pick in the seventh round
  • DT Jashon Cornell to Detroit with the #235 overall pick in the seventh round

Five additional Buckeyes were signed as undrafted free agents by NFL teams: TE Rashod Berry (New England), OL Branden Bowen (Carolina), WR Austin Mack (NY Giants), WR Binjimen Victor (NY Giants) and long snapper Liam McCullough (Raiders).

  • 4 weeks later...

Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith gives his thoughts on what college football games might look like this fall:

 

https://www.thisweeknews.com/sports/20200520/full-stands-at-horseshoe-unlikely-this-fall-says-ohio-state-ad-gene-smith

 

Some highlights from the article:

 

-- If the current social-distancing requirements forced by COVID-19 are still used this fall, it likely would limit attendance to a fraction of the over 100,000 who usually fill Ohio Stadium.  Though not set in stone, attendance would likely be limited to around 20,000-22,000.  If social-distancing guidelines were relaxed, attendance could be as much as 50,000.

 

-- How OSU determines which fans would be allowed to attend is still being decided.  Although Smith said it would likely be based in part on a point system used to assign seats.  He said players’ parents and guests of players/coaches would have highest priority.

 

-- Last month, Smith said he would be opposed to the 2020 season being played without fans - with the rationale that if football wasn’t deemed safe enough for spectators, it wouldn’t be for players.  But after conversations with counterparts in the Big Ten and around the country, he is becoming more comfortable with the idea of playing in front of empty stadiums, if necessary.

 

-- Whether there will be a 2020 season at all still remains in question.  Smith said he believes a decision needs to be made on that by early July.

 

-- Ohio State is scheduled to open the 2020 season on Sept. 5 at home against Bowling Green.  There has been speculation that COVID-19 could cause teams to cancel non-conference games.  Asked how many games could be cut and still have a viable season, Smith said he hopes to play all 12 regular-season games but would probably be comfortable with as few as eight.

i just dont get playing mac teams. that's old school oklahoma style padding the schedule. i thought osu was above that? i mean it can only hurt in the rankings. it seems to have become a tradition now though.

47 minutes ago, mrnyc said:

i just dont get playing mac teams. that's old school oklahoma style padding the schedule. i thought osu was above that? i mean it can only hurt in the rankings. it seems to have become a tradition now though.

 

Several years ago the state legislature mandated at least one in-state game -- to keep the preseason game $$ in Ohio. 

 

Edit:  After further research, I think I was mistaken -- it appears to have been an Ohio State/Jim Tressel policy, not a mandate from the state as I had thought.

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Correcting an error.

10 minutes ago, mrnyc said:

i just dont get playing mac teams. that's old school oklahoma style padding the schedule. i thought osu was above that? i mean it can only hurt in the rankings. it seems to have become a tradition now though.

 

Does it hurt in the rankings?  When has "oops, they played a MAC (or similar) school...gotta dock them" ever happened?

 

-2019: Florida Atlantic, Cincinnati, Miami OH (still made playoffs as 2 seed)

-2018: Oregon State, Tulane, neutral site with TCU (missed playoffs because they gave up 49 to Purdue)

-2017: Oklahoma, Army, UNLV (missed playoffs because they gave up 55 to Iowa)

-2016: Bowling Green, Tulsa, at Oklahoma (made playoffs)

-2015: at Virginia Tech, Hawaii, NIU, Western Michigan (missed playoffs because they forgot Zeke Elliott was on the team against Sparty)

-2014: Navy, Virginia Tech, Kent State, Cincinnati (made playoffs)

-2013: Buffalo, San Diego State, at California, Florida A&M (1AA - if I recall, this was scheduled to be an SEC team? Georgia or Tennessee?) (missed BCS because they forgot Carlos Hyde was their running back against Sparty)

-2012: Miami OH, Cal, UCF, UAB (missed BCS because Gene Smith was a moron and also the team wasn't good anyway)

-2011: Akron, Toldeo, at Miami FL, Colorado (Fickell year...team was bad)

-2010: Marhsall, Miami FL, Ohio U, Eastern Michigan (missed BCS because they lost at Wisconsin, and not sure they'd get it because that was the Cam Newton year and Oregon with Chip Kelly)

-2009: Navy, USC, Toledo, New Mexico State (team wasn't making the BCS)

-2008: Youngstown State (1AA), Ohio U, at USC, Troy (Pryor's first year...not a great team)

 

Only 2018 and 2017 didn't feature a MAC opponent.  Teams are mostly penalized for losing, so why add another risk to the mix?  They lost to their toughest OOC opponent in 2014 (Va Tech) and still won the title.

 

If you want to talk about schedule padding, let's discuss Alabama and the SEC scheduling 1AA opponents the week before rivalry week/the final week of the regular season.

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I don't know about the state legislature mandating at least one in-state game with OSU (I haven't heard of this, but if you've got a link I'll stand corrected).  But when Tressel took over from Cooper, he pretty much mandated an in-state game.  Which makes alot sense, because if OSU needs to pay non-conference teams to appear on the schedule, you might as well keep the money in the state.

 

As far as scheduling MAC schools hurting OSU's rankings, I don't think it does.  Since the Big Ten started requiring 9 B1G games instead of 8, it only leaves 3 non-conference games on the schedule.  And since losses in college football aren't like losses in college basketball, you don't really want to (or need to) load up on super difficult teams in those 3 games.  One difficult opponent plus two respectable-but-beatable opponents is pretty standard.  Which is what OSU has for 2020 - BG, Oregon, and then Buffalo before the nine Big Ten games.

 

(EDIT:  D&S posted about this with more detail before I hit submit) ?

4 minutes ago, DarkandStormy said:

 

Does it hurt in the rankings?  When has "oops, they played a MAC (or similar) school...gotta dock them" ever happened?

 

-2019: Florida Atlantic, Cincinnati, Miami OH (still made playoffs as 2 seed)

-2018: Oregon State, Tulane, neutral site with TCU (missed playoffs because they gave up 49 to Purdue)

-2017: Oklahoma, Army, UNLV (missed playoffs because they gave up 55 to Iowa)

-2016: Bowling Green, Tulsa, at Oklahoma (made playoffs)

-2015: at Virginia Tech, Hawaii, NIU, Western Michigan (missed playoffs because they forgot Zeke Elliott was on the team against Sparty)

-2014: Navy, Virginia Tech, Kent State, Cincinnati (made playoffs)

-2013: Buffalo, San Diego State, at California, Florida A&M (1AA - if I recall, this was scheduled to be an SEC team? Georgia or Tennessee?) (missed BCS because they forgot Carlos Hyde was their running back against Sparty)

-2012: Miami OH, Cal, UCF, UAB (missed BCS because Gene Smith was a moron and also the team wasn't good anyway)

-2011: Akron, Toldeo, at Miami FL, Colorado (Fickell year...team was bad)

-2010: Marhsall, Miami FL, Ohio U, Eastern Michigan (missed BCS because they lost at Wisconsin, and not sure they'd get it because that was the Cam Newton year and Oregon with Chip Kelly)

-2009: Navy, USC, Toledo, New Mexico State (team wasn't making the BCS)

-2008: Youngstown State (1AA), Ohio U, at USC, Troy (Pryor's first year...not a great team)

 

Only 2018 and 2017 didn't feature a MAC opponent.  Teams are mostly penalized for losing, so why add another risk to the mix?  They lost to their toughest OOC opponent in 2014 (Va Tech) and still won the title.

 

If you want to talk about schedule padding, let's discuss Alabama and the SEC scheduling 1AA opponents the week before rivalry week/the final week of the regular season.

 

so it is padding, but doesnt hurt because of the win? i thought the value of the win is weighted on how the losing team's season ends up? no? but you are saying a win is a win.

 

i mean i see what you mean, but playing for cheap early wins just to get in the playoff is kind of a bummer. and it seems thats even a gamble if its tight for playoff choices. why not just erase doubt and prove yourself playing quality early?

4 minutes ago, mrnyc said:

so it is padding, but doesnt hurt because of the win? i thought the value of the win is weighted on how the losing team's season ends up? no? but you are saying a win is a win.

 

i mean i see what you mean, but playing for cheap early wins just to get in the playoff is kind of a bummer. and it seems thats even a gamble if its tight for playoff choices. why not just erase doubt and prove yourself playing quality early?

 

I mean, if teams only schedule other teams that go 1-11, sure, that's bad.  See: UCF, TCUs of the world.

 

But Ohio State will always have "good enough" opponents on their schedule.  Clemson doesn't exactly play a world beaters schedule and they seem to do fine when it comes to making the playoff.

 

Plus, for better or for worse, there's always recency bias.  Even the committee cares more about the last 3-4 games played than beating ACC, SEC, and Big 12 teams in September.

Very Stable Genius

15 minutes ago, Columbo said:

I don't know about the state legislature mandating at least one in-state game with OSU (I haven't heard of this, but if you've got a link I'll stand corrected).  But when Tressel took over from Cooper, he pretty much mandated an in-state game.  Which makes alot sense, because if OSU needs to pay non-conference teams to appear on the schedule, you might as well keep the money in the state.

 

 

After further research, I think I was mistaken -- it appears to have been an Ohio State/Jim Tressel policy, not a mandate from the state as I had thought.

^ that makes sense. i’m just not a fan of it at all. there is osu and a huge gulf in ohio. also i like my mac and the rest in their own worlds.

 

osu would do better to go back to carefully chosing the three early non conference games around the country to show off what they got. also to keep the team well seasoned with travel and away games, which often has been problematic their bowl losses. i guess a couple bunny games are ok, with at least one marquee early game, but ditch the mac matchups.

Just gotta make sure the schedule doesn't fill up with Washington States and BYUs like it did in '80s. I'd still rather see BG and Kent rather than them.

  • 3 weeks later...

OK, how about this for a non-conference opponent?

 

https://www.buckeyextra.com/sports/20200618/ohio-state-alabama-schedule-home-and-home-football-games

 

Non-conference football games don’t get bigger than this.  Ohio State will play Alabama in a home-and-home series in 2027 and 2028,   The Crimson Tide will come to Ohio Stadium on Sept. 18, 2027.  Ohio State will go to Tuscaloosa, Alabama, to play Sept. 9, 2028, in Bryant-Denny Stadium.

 

Ohio State and Alabama have played four times, all at neutral sites.  Alabama won the 1986 Kickoff Classic at the Meadowlands in New Jersey, as well as the 1978 Sugar Bowl and 1995 Florida Citrus Bowl.  But the Buckeyes won the most important of these games - the semifinal of the inaugural College Football Playoff - in which the underdog Buckeyes defeated top-ranked Alabama 42-35 at the New Orleans Superdome en route to their 2014 National Title.

 

  • 3 weeks later...

Folks need to come to terms with sports not happening this fall.  Clemson also shut down workouts after 37 tested positive there, plus some staff.

Very Stable Genius

12 hours ago, DarkandStormy said:

Folks need to come to terms with sports not happening this fall.

 

It might happen - but CFB will try hard to get something on the field this fall.  Along those lines, the Big Ten is the first Power Five conference to acknowledge this with an announcement today that they'll play conference-only games this fall:

 

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29435295/source-big-ten-moving-conference-only-model-all-sports-fall

 

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2020/07/115042/ohio-state-s-gene-smith-flexibility-to-shift-games-was-biggest-thing-in-big-ten-implementing-conference-only

Less than a month ago, in this interview, OSU AD Gene Smith was "cautiously optimistic" about holding a 2020 fall college football season.  But as the COVID situation has become progressively worse in the U.S. - and as the Big Ten has now gone to its first fall back position of holding conference-only games - Smith is now saying he's "very concerned":

 

  • 3 weeks later...

More about what a Fall 2020 season might look like (assuming there is one).  Limit seating to 20 percent of capacity; limited concessions; no tailgating allowed; and no skull sessions at St. John Arena.  So, take everything that is better than just watching the game at home, and delete it(!)

 

Ohio State 'likely' to limit football stadium capacity to 20% this season:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2020/07/28/ohio-state-football-capacity-likely.html

 

12 hours ago, Columbo said:

More about what a Fall 2020 season might look like (assuming there is one).  Limit seating to 20 percent of capacity; limited concessions; no tailgating allowed; and no skull sessions at St. John Arena.  So, take everything that is better than just watching the game at home, and delete it(!)

 

Ohio State 'likely' to limit football stadium capacity to 20% this season:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2020/07/28/ohio-state-football-capacity-likely.html

 

 

I don't think any of this will happen.  They'll be lucky to have the games at all, with just teams in the stadium.  

https://www.buckeyextra.com/sports/20200731/ohio-state-michigan-football-game-probably-will-be-moved-from-end-of-season

 

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For the first time since 1942, Ohio State is likely to conclude its regular season by playing a team other than Michigan.

 

A Big Ten source told The Dispatch that the game against Michigan will probably be played earlier in the season as a hedge against the COVID-19 pandemic causing a cancellation in late November.

 

If the game is scheduled in September or October and the coronavirus situation forces a postponement, it could then played at a later date.

 

If there's a season at all, expect the Michigan game to be moved up.

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^ Will having 'The Game' being Game #7 lessen the rivalry?  Not if you believe Justin Fields:

 

Big Ten canceling 2020 football season, according to reports

 

Leaders of the Big Ten Conference have voted to cancel the fall football season because of continued concerns regarding the coronavirus, according to two Monday morning news reports.

 

The apparent decision to cancel the fall football season comes just days after the Big Ten released a fall schedule and medical protocol for its players, coaches and staff. It will have major financial consequences for Ohio State's athletic department.

 

The Detroit Free Press reported the news on Monday morning, citing "multiple people with knowledge of the decision." Those sources requested anonymity to the Free Press, which said a formal announcement is expected on Tuesday.

 

In addition, longtime sportscaster Dan Patrick has reported that a source confirmed to him that 12 of the 14 presidents of schools in the conference voted against having a fall football season (Iowa and Nebraska were the two that have been pushing to play).

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2020/08/10/big-ten-canceling-football-season-according-to-re.html 

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yeah the pac ten is next, as are most others. and the sec is well, the south. i guess they will play each other during the fake flu until their teams drop over. so far anyway.

The SEC will cancel too because this isn't about player safety of virus concerns. I heard someone on the radio say something like, "if we lose one season to coronavirus that's one year, if we lose the players to collective bargaining the revue stream will never be the same again." It sucks but I think fear of unionization and fear of liability are the real reason things are being cancelled. 

3 hours ago, ColDayMan said:

Big Ten canceling 2020 football season, according to reports

 

Leaders of the Big Ten Conference have voted to cancel the fall football season because of continued concerns regarding the coronavirus, according to two Monday morning news reports.

 

The apparent decision to cancel the fall football season comes just days after the Big Ten released a fall schedule and medical protocol for its players, coaches and staff. It will have major financial consequences for Ohio State's athletic department.

 

The Detroit Free Press reported the news on Monday morning, citing "multiple people with knowledge of the decision." Those sources requested anonymity to the Free Press, which said a formal announcement is expected on Tuesday.

 

In addition, longtime sportscaster Dan Patrick has reported that a source confirmed to him that 12 of the 14 presidents of schools in the conference voted against having a fall football season (Iowa and Nebraska were the two that have been pushing to play).

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2020/08/10/big-ten-canceling-football-season-according-to-re.html 

Sad decision. The university presidents have never been good leaders in general. 

15 hours ago, Brutus_buckeye said:

Sad decision. The university presidents have never been good leaders in general. 

 

Nor have trust-fund reality TV stars with a history of bankrupting casinos.   Tis sad times for America.   

18 hours ago, Brutus_buckeye said:

Sad decision. The university presidents have never been good leaders in general. 

 

Don't blame them.  Blame the special snowflakes that don't want to wear a mask, further delaying/cancelling, ya know, everything.  Idiots like this.

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1 hour ago, ColDayMan said:

 

Don't blame them.  Blame the special snowflakes that don't want to wear a mask, further delaying/cancelling, ya know, everything.  Idiots like this.

It is a mistake to blame masks for this. Everything is not all due to masks. Masks are important, but lets look at the scenario.

1) Kids are playing in front of no fans

2) They spend 90% of their time in the bubble of their team facility

3) They theoretically go out, go to class and wear a mask if the players follow the rules. Also, all students on campus should be wearing masks to minimize risk. 

4) Given the current climate, the majority of them are taking their classes online anyway, so you will end up in a de-facto bubble. 

 

Blaming this on not wearing a mask may be a convenient excuse but it is misplaced. 

Incorrect.  Believing college kids and football players would "follow the rules" is disingenuous.  We're too far gone for this.

 

It's quite simple really (and shown in EVERY OTHER COUNTRY BUT HERE): Wear a mask, 6 feet apart, and wash your hands will/would return us to a more normal society where football can be played safely.

 

But because of Covidiots, no.  There is no excuse for this anti-patriot behavior.

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12 minutes ago, ColDayMan said:

Incorrect.  Believing college kids and football players would "follow the rules" is disingenuous.  We're too far gone for this.

 

It's quite simple really (and shown in EVERY OTHER COUNTRY BUT HERE): Wear a mask, 6 feet apart, and wash your hands will/would return us to a more normal society where football can be played safely.

 

But because of Covidiots, no.  There is no excuse for this anti-patriot behavior.

They are adults lets try treating them as such. Let them know the risks and the need to follow the rules vigilantly. Why not try it out before saying "no".    

 

Football can be played safely. They are playing MLB, NBA, NHL. 

The college players spend almost all their waking time in their bubble anyway, there is now even more reason for them to follow the rules in their bubble now. You better think that most will, especially high level football players. 

Soccer, Cross Country and the lesser sports, probably not. They dont have the resources, but in football you can certainly create the safe environment.

 

How many college football players to date have died of Covid nationwide. The answer is 0. Until that changes, let's assume it is safe to play. 

Utter Failure of Leadership on BIG President's part. Pathetic

11 minutes ago, Brutus_buckeye said:

How many college football players to date have died of Covid nationwide. The answer is 0. Until that changes, let's assume it is safe to play. 

 

Is it also safe for their coaches, trainers, team doctors, equipment team members and ALL of their families?

 

 

58 minutes ago, Brutus_buckeye said:

How many college football players to date have died of Covid nationwide. The answer is 0. Until that changes, let's assume it is safe to play. 

 

Well, it's kinda hard to know when they haven't even started the season yet.

 

Anywho...

 

It's official: Big Ten cancels fall football, will seek spring play

 

The Big Ten Conference on Tuesday confirmed the ongoing speculation that its teams, including the Ohio State Buckeyes, will not play football this fall amid ongoing concerns about the coronavirus.

 

The Big Ten said it would postpone the football season, along with all other fall sports, and "will continue to evaluate a number of options regarding these sports, including the possibility of competition in the spring."

 

The announcement follows days of speculation about whether the Buckeyes would play, as well as a last-ditch effort by coaches including Ryan Day to try to save the season.

 

In the end, the Big Ten said it "relied on the medical advice and counsel of the Big Ten Task Force for Emerging Infectious Diseases and the Big Ten Sports Medicine Committee."

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2020/08/11/big-ten-cancels.html

 

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45 minutes ago, Clefan98 said:

 

So safe:

 

On Monday, Arizona receiver Jaden Mitchell wrote that his three-week fight with the virus resulted in a 14-pound weight loss. “This virus is no joke,” he wrote

 

https://www.si.com/college/2020/08/05/college-football-coronavirus-covid-cases-opt-outs

Some people will get sick, some more than others, that happens with every disease and even injuries. However, without football, more people will probably get sick, more people will die from other things. There will be collateral damage from this decision and unintended consequences.  You cant solely focus on COVID to the detriment of everything else. 

 

 

Playing football would be a good way to show our resolve and it could have been controlled and safe. 

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7 hours ago, Brutus_buckeye said:

Some people will get sick, some more than others, that happens with every disease and even injuries. However, without football, more people will probably get sick, more people will die from other things. There will be collateral damage from this decision and unintended consequences.  You cant solely focus on COVID to the detriment of everything else. 

 

 

Playing football would be a good way to show our resolve and it could have been controlled and safe. 

 

Early on staying home and wearing masks would have also been a great way to show our resolve.  It would have been very controlled and safe.   

 

But alas....football is being shut down along with many other businesses.   Epic failure of leadership by the anti-science party.   By trying to act tough like football players, they killed football.  The Gridirony is strong.  

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