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^I might agree. I think I do.

 

But, wasn't it part of the fun, before the BCS, and a little bit now, arguing over which team is better.  Heck, we used to argue over who was the national champion.  That has a certain appeal.  Also, it kinda sucks that in the NCAA tourney 64 out of 65 teams end their season with a loss. 

 

that being said, I still agree with you.  I would love a little tourney action.

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He's Cleveland's man, OSU's man, Heisman

Sunday, December 10, 2006

Doug Lesmerises

Plain Dealer Reporter

 

New York -- Troy Smith, a child of Cleveland who wasn't even recruited to Ohio State as a quarterback, accepted the 72nd Heisman Trophy on Saturday, winning the most prestigious honor in college football in one of the largest landslides in the history of the award.  What had been a foregone conclusion since Smith led the 12-0 Buckeyes past Michigan on Nov. 18 at last became a reality.

 

"I haven't spent that much time dreaming about it, but now that it's here, I'll dream about it tonight," Smith said.  When his name was called, Smith lowered his head as his mother, Tracy, and sister, Brittany, leapt to their feet behind him.  He hugged fellow finalist Brady Quinn before embracing his family, then Ohio State coach Jim Tressel and his high school coach at Glenville, Ted Ginn Sr.

 

More at http://www.cleveland.com/osufootball/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/1165744151319330.xml&coll=2&thispage=2

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Glenville glad, loud and proud about Tarblooder grad's trophy grab

Sunday, December 10, 2006

Tim Warsinskey

Plain Dealer Reporter

 

Whack, thud, tar, Heisman.  It was a great day to be a Tarblooder on Saturday.  Troy Smith won the Heisman Trophy, and the Cleveland phenomenon that is Glenville Tarblooders football was etched in college lore.  Pride in one of Cleveland's most storied neighborhoods and football teams had another reason to swell.

 

"It's beautiful. I can't believe he came from the same high school I went to," said Terry Miles, a 1983 graduate, as he left Chillie's Restaurant a couple blocks from the high school.  "To see a kid from this neighborhood win the Heisman?  That shows a kid like that can accomplish anything. His family has to be so proud of him. I look at him and say, 'I wish that was my son.' "

 

More at http://www.cleveland.com/osufootball/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/1165743877319330.xml&coll=2

Smith wins in a walk, but no red carpet

Sunday, December 10, 2006

Doug Lesmerises

Plain Dealer Reporter

 

New York- There was no red carpet for Troy Smith to walk when he arrived at the Heisman Trophy ceremony at 6:19 p.m. Saturday night.  Just a scarlet welcome.  Sam Wolf, wearing a "Troy for Heisman" T-shirt he bought the first week of the season, and fellow OSU students Katie Salva, Julie Bertke and Mic Ball greeted a stone-faced Smith with shrieks and cheers Saturday evening.

 

More at http://www.cleveland.com/osufootball/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/1165746042319330.xml&coll=2

Smith stumbled, but never lost his focus

Sunday, December 10, 2006

Bill Livingston

Plain Dealer Columnist

 

The idea was absurd that a quarterback at Ohio State, a school whose teams geysered dust every 3 yards, could win the Heisman Trophy.  Until Saturday night, no Big Ten quarterback at all had ever won the award as college football's best player.  But when current Ohio State coach Jim Tressel snagged Justin Zwick in the recruiting class of 2002, it was big news.  It meant the most heralded quarterback at Ohio State since Art Schlichter was about to unlimber his arm.

 

Smith, like Zwick, was a member of OSU's 2002 recruiting class.  But Smith had the designation "athlete" next to his name on the list of recruits.  It was both blessing and curse.  Smith might, coaches thought, become one of those "slash" types, like Antwaan Randle El or Kordell Stewart.  Like the various implements on a Swiss Army knife, he could be useful in gutting defenses.  But he was a novelty act when he was under center.

 

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Tarblooders?  :? 

Tarblooders?  :?  

 

what don't you understand?

Yeah...Tarblooders?!?!  It sounds almost like Tar Babies and we all know where that came from...

"You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers

Tarblooders?  :?  

 

"A tarblooder was a railroad worker whose job was to smear hot tar on railroad ties after they were laid to seal them and hold them in place. It was difficult work to say the least. The mixture of tar, dirt (and most certainly the occasional real blood) and sweat pouring off of these men gave the impression of blood."

i still think nuge was robbed.

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Ohio State quick to cut jersey seller after dissent

Sunday, December 31, 2006

MIKE HARDEN

The Columbus Dispatch

 

Ohio Chief Justice Thomas J. Moyer, writing in the Ohio State University alumni magazine this year, wondered what patriot Thomas Paine might say if he visited campus today.  An OSU alum, Moyer ventured that Paine would "remind us that the books, the test tubes and the blackboards have meaning only if their lessons are extended beyond the classroom."  In short, you cannot preach the gospel of open, vigorous public debate in the classroom if the university protects a bureaucracy that wheels and deals in secret and takes ham-fisted retribution on those who question its shrouded negotiations.

 

When West Side retailer Mike DiSabato, a vendor of OSU jerseys and other merchandise, dared to raise questions in The Dispatch about Nike’s attempts to get an essentially exclusive sweetheart deal with the university, punishment was swift.  Within 72 hours of talking publicly about the university, DiSabato was handed a certified letter informing him that he was being terminated as an OSU licensee.

 

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So when is UM going to fire their football coach?  :-D

BTW, is Ohio State your #1 rival now, or is going "John Cooper" now acceptable to Ann Arbor?  :laugh:

so if the rose bowl is now the loser bowl -- what does this make the loser of the loser bowl?

 

or something like that?

 

umich should have held out to play the mac winner instead. that would have been cool. and a more fair game for motor city bowl champ central mich than that patsy they played.

 

this is pretty cool:

 

 

Kasper Toyota plans to hoist largest OSU flag Monday

MEGAN KING, Morning Journal Writer

01/07/2007

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SANDUSKY -- Kasper Toyota Scion, which owns of the second largest flagpole in the state, is about to replace Old Glory with a grand new flag.

 

 

At 11 a.m. tomorrow, Kasper Toyota Scion will raise a 30-foot by 60-foot Ohio State flag to show off their Buckeye pride in advance of Monday night's Bowl Championship Series game between Ohio State and the Florida Gators.

 

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The 168-foot tall flagpole, which the owners believe to the be the second tallest in the state, is usually home to an American flag of the same size. The flag is believed to be the largest Ohio State flag in the country.

 

''You can see it for miles,'' said Bryan Kasper of Kasper Auto Group. ''It's kind of become a little landmark around this area.''

 

The flag, which will wave in observance of the Buckeyes' appearance in the BCS game in Glendale, Ariz., will come down either Tuesday morning or sometime Wednesday -- depending on the game's outcome.

 

Kasper and General Manager Greg Donahue had the idea of raising a large Ohio State flag when Ohio State played Michigan in November. Kasper said they approached Ohio State to get permission, and the university did not have a problem with it.

 

''We've been big Ohio State supporters for years,'' Kasper said, noting that the company allows the school's diving coach to drive one of their vans.

 

The dealership paid a small licensing fee, and The Flag Lady, a flag company in Columbus, rushed the order through in a few weeks so Kasper could have it in time for the game.

 

Kasper said the dealership plans to make a tradition out of the flag.

 

''Our intention would be to fly it at every Ohio State game going forward,'' he said.

 

He said the flag has become a symbol in the community of their dealership, and he expects positive reaction from the Buckeye flag as well.

 

''It's kind of become our little tag line for advertising -- just come to the flagpole,'' Kasper said.

 

Kasper's father, Kasper Auto Group President Jerry Kasper, was already in Glendale getting ready for the game last week. The Kaspers have been OSU football season ticket holders since the 1980s.

 

Yet Bryan Kasper plans to stay behind.

 

''Somebody's got to hoist the flag,'' he said.

 

Let's GO BUCKS!

O H

Man, downtown was so dead today ... I guess everybody started partying early  :drunk:

I O ... beotch!!!

I know OSU has had a habit of starting off slow, but this first quarter sucked (except for the first 14 seconds).

OS 7 - FS 14, end of 1st

whats the mercy rule?

 

bgsu should have held on to their damn coach.

Lets look on the bright side. Even though we lost,

 

Michigan still Sucks

what the fuck is going on?  I haven't been watching the game since I knew the bucks would spank some ass.  Looks like the gators whip us in BBall now FBall. This wasn't a good time to have your worse game of the year.

what the hell/>?

Wow, we sucked... maybe 50+ days off between games had more of an impact than I expected. 

That really fucked up my plans.  I was going to use the Dick's Sporting Goods gift card I got at Christmas to pick up some Bucks national championship gear.

 

What the hell do I do now?  :(

 

That really fucked up my plans.  I was going to use the Dick's Sporting Goods gift card I got at Christmas to pick up some Bucks national championship gear.

 

What the hell do I do now?  :(

 

ebay!

i feel depressed

tressel should have voted Michigan #2 in the coaches poll

exurbkid..i feel you pain.  I talked all this shit yesterday...now ive got kiss ass with the CNN, SI and HBO sports staffs.  ugh

A few predictions:

 

OSU Florida 41  Florida OSU 14

 

 

 

Fixed that for ya. 

What a display. Speaking as a Michigan fan, I can't even imagine what it would be like to have a coach like Meyer or Carroll.

That really fucked up my plans.  I was going to use the Dick's Sporting Goods gift card I got at Christmas to pick up some Bucks national championship gear.

 

What the hell do I do now?  :(

 

Well now you can get some International Bowl Championship stuff for the Bearcats!

Ouch. I'm still in disbelief.

in the words of doctor smith: woe the pain!

 

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I mean, is it really a surprise though?  Remember 2002 Championship, when Miami was expecting to "crush" OSU and BAM!, right in the kisser!  I suppose turnabout is fair play.  Congrats to Florida and congrats to OSU for still having a hell of a year and a Heisman Award winner.  Losing the National Championship (even if badly) still doesn't negate that it was a great year.

 

So still, as the HNIC and an OSU Alum, GO BUCKS!!!

 

And also, atleast another Ohioan won.

"You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers

And also, atleast another Ohioan won.

 

Might I add, that he is a Cincinnatian!

He's from Ashtabula, not Cincinnati.

"You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers

Born in Cincy, raised in Ashtabula...his father returned to and still lives in Cincy

And also, atleast another Ohioan won.

 

Might I add, that he is a Cincinnatian!

 

no, but wiki says he played at uc as a db in college and even coached at st. xavier high school there. maybe you are thinking of that?

 

he even coached for osu too in the 1980's. his first college head coaching job was later at bgsu. so prob an extra satisfying win all around for coach meyer.

 

oh well at least yet again it's true that ohio is the "cradle of coaches" for football.

 

 

 

Born in Cincy, raised in Ashtabula...his father returned to and still lives in Cincy

 

i dk but it says ashtabula on every link i could find. what ya got?

I think this outcome, and the entire bowl season, might help pave the way for a playoff. Any way you look at it, playoffs are better. Can you imagine how fun a playoff would've been?

 

It also exposed the underlying fault in rankings: they can't overcome the bias and inherent weakness of preseason rankings. OSU was an excellent team, but it's clear they were not tested (except by U-M) in a relatively weak Big 10. I think USC stood a good chance to beat OSU as well, considering what FLA brought to the table. Then there's the matter of Boise State.

 

Plus, it takes away the reasonable complaint about the delay between games. No team would have to wait 50+ days to play.

My bad.Urban Meyer was born bred in Ashtabula.....I had msiread this bit in

 

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/content/sports/epaper/2007/01/07/a1b_meyer_0107.html

 

"The family owned a sprawling farm in Sardinia, Ohio, west of the city, raising about 1,000 pigs a year.

 

When Bud Meyer was relocated to Ashtabula for about six years, he wanted to leave his son behind to live with his aunt so he could attend the elite St. Xavier High School in Cincinnati. "

 

wanted to leave his son behind to attend St. X implies they lived in Cincy at the time...bad writing

 

this piece from the Cincy Enq. sets me straight

 

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070108/SPT01/701080320/-1/back01

 

"Somehow, Meyer, who was born and raised in Ashtabula, which is about an hour east of Cleveland, grew up a Bengals and Reds fan. A room in his home in northeast Ohio was full of Bengals and Red memorabilia."

 

His father had the strong Cincy ties...

 

 

I think this outcome, and the entire bowl season, might help pave the way for a playoff. Any way you look at it, playoffs are better. Can you imagine how fun a playoff would've been?

 

It also exposed the underlying fault in rankings: they can't overcome the bias and inherent weakness of preseason rankings. OSU was an excellent team, but it's clear they were not tested (except by U-M) in a relatively weak Big 10. I think USC stood a good chance to beat OSU as well, considering what FLA brought to the table. Then there's the matter of Boise State.

 

Plus, it takes away the reasonable complaint about the delay between games. No team would have to wait 50+ days to play.

 

Corral all the "loser" bowls into a 16 team playoff. Only gamblers care about the "other" bowls outside of the team's fans themselves

F*CK!!!

 

my sentiments exactly.  I am depressed now.  I mean, if we played well, and the score was close, I would be disapointed yes, but this is rediculous.  It was embarrassing.  I want to forget about the whole game.

My bad.Urban Meyer was born bred in Ashtabula.....I had msiread this bit in

 

I wasn't talking about Urban Meyer...I was talking about the Florida running back who played HS fball with Reading HS.  BTW, he turned down Tressel and the Bucks for Florida!

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