Sad news - Dwayne Haskins a victim of traffic violence:

 

FORMER OHIO STATE QUARTERBACK DWAYNE HASKINS DIES AT 24 YEARS OLD

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2022/04/130301/former-ohio-state-quarterback-dwayne-haskins-dies-at-24-years-old

 

Former Ohio State quarterback Dwayne Haskins has died at the age of 24. 

Haskins was killed on Saturday morning when he was hit by a car. Haskins, who was a member of the Pittsburgh Steelers, was reportedly training with other Steelers players when the accident occurred in South Florida.

Haskins, who played for Ohio State from 2016-18, was set to turn 25 on May 3.

 

 

walking on a highway and crossing the traffic? who knows, but that seems very strange to do. regardless, very tragic news.

 

 

https://nypost.com/2022/04/09/steelers-dwayne-haskins-dies-after-being-hit-by-car-in-south-florida/

On 4/9/2022 at 11:36 AM, mrnyc said:

walking on a highway and crossing the traffic? who knows, but that seems very strange to do. regardless, very tragic news.

 

 

https://nypost.com/2022/04/09/steelers-dwayne-haskins-dies-after-being-hit-by-car-in-south-florida/

 

 

Last summer my alternator died while driving on the highway in Orlando. I ended up pinned on a much-too-narrow shoulder next to a jersey barrier with literally nowhere else to go. It was too dangerous to stay in the car with cars speeding passed (and blaring their horn, like I chose to break down there). It was a harrowing walk to find a safer place to wait for AAA. So I could definitely see something similar happening in this case. 

^ i would hope it was something like that and not something odder.

unfortunately its sounding like something much sadder per witnesees:

 

 

https://nypost.com/2022/04/12/dwayne-haskins-highway-accident-very-disturbing-details-emerge/

^ nope!

 

while its still very sad, its of some relief his mysterious death wasn’t for some nutty mh or drugs reason:

 

 

911 call indicates Dwayne Haskins was walking on highway to get gas before fatal crash

 

By Eric Levenson, CNN

Updated 6:10 PM ET, Wed April 20, 2022

(CNN) A newly released 911 call indicates that NFL quarterback Dwayne Haskins had told his wife he was walking on a Florida highway to get gas before he was fatally struck by a dump truck last week.

 

"I'm calling because my husband is stuck on the side of the highway. He had to go walk and get gas, and then he said he was returning to the car on the highway," a woman who said she was Haskins' wife, Kalabrya Haskins, told an emergency operator. "We were on the phone, he said he was going to call me back after he finished putting the gas in.

"I kept calling and calling and he wasn't answering, and eventually -- I continued to call him, the phone eventually cut off, and it's not working now. I have his location, and I just want someone to go in the area and see if his car is there and if he's okay and if anything happened to him," she said. "That's just not right for him not to call me back and his phone to go dead, and he's just stranded by himself."

 

She said she was in Pittsburgh, but had been on the phone with Haskins.

oh no, now it swings the other way ... haskins was catting around and drunk ... very sad:

 

 

Dwayne Haskins was legally drunk at time of death, according to toxicology report

 

 

Dwayne Haskins was legally drunk when he was struck by a dump truck on I-595 in Florida and killed on April 9, according to a toxicology report released by the office of the Broward County Medical Examiner on Monday.

 

According to the toxicology report, two separate samples taken from Haskins' body had alcohol levels of .20 and .24, both of which are above the legal limit in Florida of .08. According to the report, Haskins also tested positive for ketamine and norketamine, drugs that are used by medical professionals as anesthetics but that also have been known to be used recreationally.

 

The medical examiner ruled Haskins' cause of death as multiple blunt force injuries and the manner of his death as an accident.

 

The medical examiner's investigation report stated that when Haskins' car was found on the side of the highway, a "female companion" was in the vehicle and told the Florida Highway Patrol that Haskins had left the vehicle to try to find gas. The woman's relationship to Haskins was not known, according to the report.

 

According to 911 audio released in April, Haskins' wife, who was not with him at the time of the accident, told a 911 dispatcher that the quarterback was walking to get gas on the morning he was struck and killed.

 

 

more:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33971836/dwayne-haskins-was-legally-drunk-death-according-toxicology-report

 

 

edit -- looks like drugs in his system too -- 

 

According to the report, Haskins, 24, also tested positive for ketamine and norketamine, drugs that are used by medical professionals as anesthetics, but can also be used recreationally.

 

more:

https://nypost.com/2022/05/24/dwayne-haskins-wifes-statement-after-toxicology-report/

Edited May 24, 20223 yr by mrnyc

yes it is — he has to overcome this somewhat justified slam — this season or at some point:

 

 

 

Now is the time for Ohio State's Ryan Day to prove he wasn't born on third base

 

Dan Wetzel

Wed, August 31, 2022, 10:06 AM

 

 

“Sometimes the people standing on third base think they hit a triple,” Harbaugh said. “But they didn’t.”

 

 

more:

https://sports.yahoo.com/now-is-the-time-for-ohio-states-ryan-day-to-prove-he-wasnt-born-on-third-base-140625487.html

Somehow the start of the season completely snuck up on me this year! I blame my kids. Especially because we are starting off with what is likely to be one of the biggest games of the season, not just for us but in all of college football. OSU at #2 versus Notre Dame at #5, tonight at 7:30 in the ‘Shoe (and on ESPN)!

9 hours ago, Gramarye said:

Somehow the start of the season completely snuck up on me this year! I blame my kids. Especially because we are starting off with what is likely to be one of the biggest games of the season, not just for us but in all of college football. OSU at #2 versus Notre Dame at #5, tonight at 7:30 in the ‘Shoe (and on ESPN)!

Great win to start the season!   The start was dodgy but they pulled it together and controlled the 2nd half.   I guess that isn't unlike last year's Bucks. 

On 9/4/2022 at 3:47 AM, Cleburger said:

Great win to start the season!   The start was dodgy but they pulled it together and controlled the 2nd half.   I guess that isn't unlike last year's Bucks. 

 

Ryan Day finally realized he had bigger/stronger guys on the line and decided to just bully their way.  Funny, a team that (rightly) got called soft last year won the game by bullying the Irish in the trenches.

 

It might not be the identity Day wants, but that's how they're going to win tough games, imo.

TBDBITL gets a shout out from Sir Elton John

 

It’s called “The Game” for a reason.  Ryan Day has led an embarrassing effort two years in a row.  Recruiting has been great but give me a coach that will inspire his players for this game or GTFO of the way for a coach who will.

5 minutes ago, Sapper Daddy said:

It’s called “The Game” for a reason.  Ryan Day has led an embarrassing effort two years in a row.  Recruiting has been great but give me a coach that will inspire his players for this game or GTFO of the way for a coach who will.

Every other game played before "The Game" is basically an exhibition or pre-season game.  "The Game" is the start of the real OSU season.  The season consists of the OSU-Michigan game, Big 10 championship game and college football playoffs.  Day is 1-2 against Michigan.  It is the first losing record against that team since John Cooper.  It appears that the 2019 victory had more to do with the influence that Urban Meyer had on that roster.   Several performances in the two seasons may have foreshadowed that the OSU-Michigan wasn't going to go well for OSU.  Too many 3rd/4th quarter come-from-behind wins and late scores to increase the margin of victory tended to mask deeper issues.  

1 hour ago, LifeLongClevelander said:

Every other game played before "The Game" is basically an exhibition or pre-season game.  "The Game" is the start of the real OSU season.  The season consists of the OSU-Michigan game, Big 10 championship game and college football playoffs.  Day is 1-2 against Michigan.  It is the first losing record against that team since John Cooper.  It appears that the 2019 victory had more to do with the influence that Urban Meyer had on that roster.   Several performances in the two seasons may have foreshadowed that the OSU-Michigan wasn't going to go well for OSU.  Too many 3rd/4th quarter come-from-behind wins and late scores to increase the margin of victory tended to mask deeper issues.  

Day is in over his head against Michigan, I would let him go and hire the Illinois coach. His teams play tough football, the way Ohio State once played.

Ryan Day is John Cooper 2.0.  Or a bit like Chip Kelly at Oregon.

 

If you want to go 11-1 every year and not win the Big Ten or beat Michigan, keep him.

 

Otherwise, I'd be calling down to Cincinnati to hire one Luke Fickell.  Some nuts will call for bringing back Urban.

 

Gene Smith notoriously gives a lot of leeway so I'd bet Day has another year. If he loses in embarrassing fashion again, I'd bet he'd get one more year as long as he isn't calling plays (his play calling is stale and he's wasted an immense amount of offensive talent the last two years).

Good lord these takes are embarrassing. People are calling for Bert freaking Bielama? Come on, take a deep breath before posting. Expecting to win every single game every single year is a recipe for misery. Day would be 2-2 against UM if Harbaugh hadn’t chickensh*tted out 2020. I do love Luke Fickell and will forever appreciate his commitment to OSU, but pretending that he would be a sure-fire hire requires ignoring an awful lot of recent history. I want to be clear - if the wheels were ACTUALLY falling off I’d be in favor of hiring Fickell. But Day is 45-5, 2-2 in bowls, 2 big ten outright championships (much more difficult now that you can’t share a title), 2 playoff appearances, one national championship appearance, and a rose bowl win. Calling for his firing at this point is completely foolish - just stop with this nonsense. 
 

Please take look at Nebraska and Scott Frost - nearly everyone, myself included, thought that was a slam dunk hire. And it just never worked. OSU has set the standard for consistency of excellence ever since Woody’s hiring, but you’re completely wrong if you think that is inevitable going forward and requires the firing of anyone who achieves slightly less than perfection as head coach. Much more likely that firing someone like Day results in years in the wilderness as experienced by Colorado, Nebraska, Norte Dame, Michigan (prior to the last two seasons), Texas, and other formerly great programs that have suffered mediocrity for years. 
 

Another way of thinking about it - I’d estimate at least a 90% likelihood of a replacement for Ryan Day turning out to be worse than him. 
 

I’ll never stop laughing at the suggestion of hiring Bert Bielama - holy cow that one is hilarious. 

It's not like Michigan was ranked 12th or something.

5 hours ago, DarkandStormy said:

Ryan Day is John Cooper 2.0.  Or a bit like Chip Kelly at Oregon.

 

If you want to go 11-1 every year and not win the Big Ten or beat Michigan, keep him.

 

Otherwise, I'd be calling down to Cincinnati to hire one Luke Fickell.  Some nuts will call for bringing back Urban.

 

Gene Smith notoriously gives a lot of leeway so I'd bet Day has another year. If he loses in embarrassing fashion again, I'd bet he'd get one more year as long as he isn't calling plays (his play calling is stale and he's wasted an immense amount of offensive talent the last two years).

We here in Cincinnati will take Ryan Day. Since Fickell just skipped town for Wisconsin. No one can understand how you turn down ND last year and are basically next in line for OSU job and you go to Wisconsin. We love being dumped every four years or so for something flashier, we have just learned to deal with it. 

44 minutes ago, savadams13 said:

We here in Cincinnati will take Ryan Day. Since Fickell just skipped town for Wisconsin. No one can understand how you turn down ND last year and are basically next in line for OSU job and you go to Wisconsin. We love being dumped every four years or so for something flashier, we have just learned to deal with it. 

 

FWIW - one bad season would tank Fickell's value. This was a good move for him. 

9 hours ago, Boomerang_Brian said:

Good lord these takes are embarrassing. People are calling for Bert freaking Bielama? Come on, take a deep breath before posting. Expecting to win every single game every single year is a recipe for misery. Day would be 2-2 against UM if Harbaugh hadn’t chickensh*tted out 2020. I do love Luke Fickell and will forever appreciate his commitment to OSU, but pretending that he would be a sure-fire hire requires ignoring an awful lot of recent history. I want to be clear - if the wheels were ACTUALLY falling off I’d be in favor of hiring Fickell. But Day is 45-5, 2-2 in bowls, 2 big ten outright championships (much more difficult now that you can’t share a title), 2 playoff appearances, one national championship appearance, and a rose bowl win. Calling for his firing at this point is completely foolish - just stop with this nonsense. 
 

Please take look at Nebraska and Scott Frost - nearly everyone, myself included, thought that was a slam dunk hire. And it just never worked. OSU has set the standard for consistency of excellence ever since Woody’s hiring, but you’re completely wrong if you think that is inevitable going forward and requires the firing of anyone who achieves slightly less than perfection as head coach. Much more likely that firing someone like Day results in years in the wilderness as experienced by Colorado, Nebraska, Norte Dame, Michigan (prior to the last two seasons), Texas, and other formerly great programs that have suffered mediocrity for years. 
 

Another way of thinking about it - I’d estimate at least a 90% likelihood of a replacement for Ryan Day turning out to be worse than him. 
 

I’ll never stop laughing at the suggestion of hiring Bert Bielama - holy cow that one is hilarious. Laugh all you want, his team with inferior talent came a lot closer to defeating Michigan than Day and OHIO STATE did. PLUS he defeated Northwestern 41 to 3,,what was the Buckeyes score against Northwestern. You suggest hiring Luke Fickell..ha..ha hilarious..been there done that, how did that work out. Ohio State needs to get back to tough hard-nosed football..No more of these finesse coaches you are suggesting.

 

21 hours ago, Boomerang_Brian said:

Good lord these takes are embarrassing. People are calling for Bert freaking Bielama? Come on, take a deep breath before posting. Expecting to win every single game every single year is a recipe for misery. Day would be 2-2 against UM if Harbaugh hadn’t chickensh*tted out 2020. I do love Luke Fickell and will forever appreciate his commitment to OSU, but pretending that he would be a sure-fire hire requires ignoring an awful lot of recent history. I want to be clear - if the wheels were ACTUALLY falling off I’d be in favor of hiring Fickell. But Day is 45-5, 2-2 in bowls, 2 big ten outright championships (much more difficult now that you can’t share a title), 2 playoff appearances, one national championship appearance, and a rose bowl win. Calling for his firing at this point is completely foolish - just stop with this nonsense. 
 

Please take look at Nebraska and Scott Frost - nearly everyone, myself included, thought that was a slam dunk hire. And it just never worked. OSU has set the standard for consistency of excellence ever since Woody’s hiring, but you’re completely wrong if you think that is inevitable going forward and requires the firing of anyone who achieves slightly less than perfection as head coach. Much more likely that firing someone like Day results in years in the wilderness as experienced by Colorado, Nebraska, Norte Dame, Michigan (prior to the last two seasons), Texas, and other formerly great programs that have suffered mediocrity for years. 
 

Another way of thinking about it - I’d estimate at least a 90% likelihood of a replacement for Ryan Day turning out to be worse than him. 
 

I’ll never stop laughing at the suggestion of hiring Bert Bielama - holy cow that one is hilarious. 

Your take is embarrassing when you compare Ohio State to other schools, especially Nebraska. OSU has had very few losing seasons in the last 60 years! That’s because Ohio is a football-rich state in terms of high school talent, along with the fact that in the last 20 yrs or so Ohio St is ONLY northern school that is capable of winning a national title. Anyone who coaches OSU is going to get around nine wins. I’m not saying Day should be fired, but the jury is still out on him. He inherited Urban Meyer’s program; not only the players/recruits but also the coaching staff as well. Like Harbaugh said, Day started off on 3rd base. Most coaches would have done well in that situation, so maybe you should hold off on putting him in the hall of fame!! The bottom line is that the hiring of Day is going to turn out to be a mistake. He had no ties to OSU or the state of Ohio, other than the few years he was an assistant under Meyer. This may not be fair, but his overall record doesn’t matter when you get your a$$ kicked by Michigan 2 yrs in a row, especially when his 3 predecessors lost 2 times in 20 years!! Hopefully Ohio St finds another coach in a few years, because Day was a bad hire!

On 11/27/2022 at 12:36 PM, DarkandStormy said:

Ryan Day is John Cooper 2.0.  Or a bit like Chip Kelly at Oregon.

 

If you want to go 11-1 every year and not win the Big Ten or beat Michigan, keep him.

This seems like a huge overreaction to a horrible loss.

 

All these comparisons to John Cooper are premature, by far. 

Cooper only had three one-loss seasons and in each of those seasons the Buckeyes won their bowl games.  Zero national championships.  Cooper also had quite a few 3-and-4-loss seasons (and one 6-loss season!)

 

Ryan Day has already had three one-loss seasons.  2-1 in bowl games, made it to the national championship once.  His "worst" year was 11-2 and a Rose Bowl win.

 

Yes, we cannot abide a losing record to Michigan.  But it is still very early in Day's career and too soon to be calling for a replacement.  Day's 1-2 record against Michigan pales against Cooper's 2-10-1 (remember Cooper started 0-5-1 against Michigan before getting his first win).

59 minutes ago, Foraker said:

This seems like a huge overreaction to a horrible loss.

 

All these comparisons to John Cooper are premature, by far. 

Cooper only had three one-loss seasons and in each of those seasons the Buckeyes won their bowl games.  Zero national championships.  Cooper also had quite a few 3-and-4-loss seasons (and one 6-loss season!)

 

Ryan Day has already had three one-loss seasons.  2-1 in bowl games, made it to the national championship once.  His "worst" year was 11-2 and a Rose Bowl win.

 

Yes, we cannot abide a losing record to Michigan.  But it is still very early in Day's career and too soon to be calling for a replacement.  Day's 1-2 record against Michigan pales against Cooper's 2-10-1 (remember Cooper started 0-5-1 against Michigan before getting his first win).

 

He's a choker in the big games.  1-4 against top 5 teams.

 

His "best" team happens to be the one he inherited from his predecessor and landed the top QB in the transfer portal.  Year 4 now...this is entirely his program.  Hard to say it hasn't regressed.

 

He'll get his shot - I imagine Gene may, under the table, force him to give up play calling duties if he loses again next season.  Because let's be honest, his play calling has been bad this season.  Four straight losses would be curtains for him after that.

A note about this "horrible loss": It was close heading into the 4th, but OSU was still down 20-24.  Many of the home runs Michigan hit in the 4th quarter were the result of defensive risks that were necessary for OSU to have a chance at winning.  Those risks backfired, of course, but I still give Day credit for taking them.  Donovan Edwards' long breakaway TD in the 4th, for example, was in part because we jammed the line of scrimmage because we desperately needed to get a stop.  The clock was not our friend, so even if he hadn't taken it the distance, even a first-down conversion would have been a major blow.

 

The earlier long passing touchdowns (broken coverage/missed tackles in the 2nd and 3rd quarters) hurt more because they set the environment for those later plays in addition to putting points on the board.

 

And about the John Cooper comparisons: Cooper routinely lost to mediocre Michigan teams.  Day has now lost to one currently-undefeated Michigan team and one one-loss Michigan team (they finished last season 12-2 after losing to Georgia in the CFP).

Somehow, the Emperor retu ... I mean, somehow, the Buckeyes got into the CFP.

 

https://www.dispatch.com/story/sports/college/football/2022/12/04/ohio-state-to-face-no-1-georgia-in-college-football-playoff/69698912007/

 

A week after its national championship hopes looked doomed, Ohio State is in the College Football Playoff.

 

The Buckeyes (11-1) are the No. 4 seed and will play top-seeded and defending champion Georgia (13-0) in the CFP semifinals at the Peach Bowl in Atlanta at 8 p.m. Dec. 31.

 

No. 2 Michigan (13-0) and No. 3 TCU (12-1) will play in the other semifinal in the Fiesta Bowl. The Big Ten has two teams in the playoff for the first time.

 

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While it's great to have two Big Ten teams in the playoff, and OSU has already won the CFP as a #4 seed once (in 2014), this doesn't feel like 2014 to me.  In 2014, our only regular season loss was early (to Virginia Tech, of all places).  We had a lot of talented young players that just needed experience, and they got better and better as the season went on, and throttled Wisconsin 59-0 in the Big Ten title game.  This year, not only did we not even make the Big Ten title game, but we stumbled down the later part of the season (our wins against Northwestern and Maryland in November were unimpressive).

 

Now we're going up against a Georgia team that euthanized Michigan last year (the 34-11 final score doesn't even do it justice because it was 34-3 before a garbage time touchdown and 2-pt conversion by the Wolverines).

 

I'm glad we're playing in the big game, but this is gonna be uglier than the eight-month-old leftovers forgotten in the back of some undergrad's fridge.

4 hours ago, Gramarye said:

Somehow, the Emperor retu ... I mean, somehow, the Buckeyes got into the CFP.

 

https://www.dispatch.com/story/sports/college/football/2022/12/04/ohio-state-to-face-no-1-georgia-in-college-football-playoff/69698912007/

 

A week after its national championship hopes looked doomed, Ohio State is in the College Football Playoff.

 

The Buckeyes (11-1) are the No. 4 seed and will play top-seeded and defending champion Georgia (13-0) in the CFP semifinals at the Peach Bowl in Atlanta at 8 p.m. Dec. 31.

 

No. 2 Michigan (13-0) and No. 3 TCU (12-1) will play in the other semifinal in the Fiesta Bowl. The Big Ten has two teams in the playoff for the first time.

 

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While it's great to have two Big Ten teams in the playoff, and OSU has already won the CFP as a #4 seed once (in 2014), this doesn't feel like 2014 to me.  In 2014, our only regular season loss was early (to Virginia Tech, of all places).  We had a lot of talented young players that just needed experience, and they got better and better as the season went on, and throttled Wisconsin 59-0 in the Big Ten title game.  This year, not only did we not even make the Big Ten title game, but we stumbled down the later part of the season (our wins against Northwestern and Maryland in November were unimpressive).

 

Now we're going up against a Georgia team that euthanized Michigan last year (the 34-11 final score doesn't even do it justice because it was 34-3 before a garbage time touchdown and 2-pt conversion by the Wolverines).

 

I'm glad we're playing in the big game, but this is gonna be uglier than the eight-month-old leftovers forgotten in the back of some undergrad's fridge.

But football is a game of matchups. OSU unfortunately does not matchup as well with scUM as it does other teams. I think the Buckeyes would give Georgia a run for their money and would not be surprised if they win. This is not the same UGA as last year and their D is not as dominant (still very good). They also do not run as well as UGA teams have in the past which has proven to be OSU's Achilles heel the last few years. 

10 hours ago, Brutus_buckeye said:

But football is a game of matchups. OSU unfortunately does not matchup as well with scUM as it does other teams. I think the Buckeyes would give Georgia a run for their money and would not be surprised if they win. This is not the same UGA as last year and their D is not as dominant (still very good). They also do not run as well as UGA teams have in the past which has proven to be OSU's Achilles heel the last few years. 

Playing a month later is going to give us time to heal. We started our 4th string running back against that team up north. 

17 hours ago, Gramarye said:

Somehow, the Emperor retu ... I mean, somehow, the Buckeyes got into the CFP.

 

https://www.dispatch.com/story/sports/college/football/2022/12/04/ohio-state-to-face-no-1-georgia-in-college-football-playoff/69698912007/

 

A week after its national championship hopes looked doomed, Ohio State is in the College Football Playoff.

 

The Buckeyes (11-1) are the No. 4 seed and will play top-seeded and defending champion Georgia (13-0) in the CFP semifinals at the Peach Bowl in Atlanta at 8 p.m. Dec. 31.

 

No. 2 Michigan (13-0) and No. 3 TCU (12-1) will play in the other semifinal in the Fiesta Bowl. The Big Ten has two teams in the playoff for the first time.

 

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While it's great to have two Big Ten teams in the playoff, and OSU has already won the CFP as a #4 seed once (in 2014), this doesn't feel like 2014 to me.  In 2014, our only regular season loss was early (to Virginia Tech, of all places).  We had a lot of talented young players that just needed experience, and they got better and better as the season went on, and throttled Wisconsin 59-0 in the Big Ten title game.  This year, not only did we not even make the Big Ten title game, but we stumbled down the later part of the season (our wins against Northwestern and Maryland in November were unimpressive).

 

Now we're going up against a Georgia team that euthanized Michigan last year (the 34-11 final score doesn't even do it justice because it was 34-3 before a garbage time touchdown and 2-pt conversion by the Wolverines).

 

I'm glad we're playing in the big game, but this is gonna be uglier than the eight-month-old leftovers forgotten in the back of some undergrad's fridge.

 

This is loser talk.

 

In 2017, Alabama went into the Iron Bowl undefeated and lost to Auburn.  They didn't make the SEC Championship Game.  They throttled #1 Clemson in the semis and beat Georgia for the title in an OT classic.  Likewise, Georgia lost to Auburn in mid-November 40-17.  They came back and beat them in a rematch in the SEC Championship Game and then very nearly won it all (Bama probably loses if they don't go to Tua in that game).

 

In 2021, Georgia got crushed by Alabama in the SEC title game 41-24.  They came back and beat #2 Michigan in the semis and then Bama in the rematch for the national championship.

Goes to show that like in all the other major sports where the same teams play each other multiple times that one win against a team is no guarantee of the next.

On 11/28/2022 at 2:10 PM, DarkandStormy said:

 

He's a choker in the big games.  1-4 against top 5 teams.

 

His "best" team happens to be the one he inherited from his predecessor and landed the top QB in the transfer portal.  Year 4 now...this is entirely his program.  Hard to say it hasn't regressed.

 

He'll get his shot - I imagine Gene may, under the table, force him to give up play calling duties if he loses again next season.  Because let's be honest, his play calling has been bad this season.  Four straight losses would be curtains for him after that.

 

4 hours ago, DarkandStormy said:

 

This is loser talk.

 

In 2017, Alabama went into the Iron Bowl undefeated and lost to Auburn.  They didn't make the SEC Championship Game.  They throttled #1 Clemson in the semis and beat Georgia for the title in an OT classic.  Likewise, Georgia lost to Auburn in mid-November 40-17.  They came back and beat them in a rematch in the SEC Championship Game and then very nearly won it all (Bama probably loses if they don't go to Tua in that game).

 

In 2021, Georgia got crushed by Alabama in the SEC title game 41-24.  They came back and beat #2 Michigan in the semis and then Bama in the rematch for the national championship.

I’m trying to figure out if one of these consecutive posts was intended to be sarcastic, because they certainly seem to be contradictory. 
 

I’m glad OSU is in. No chance to win a playoff game if you aren’t in. I do agree with Gram’s point that it has a different feel than 2014, but OSU still has a bunch of talent and a month to prepare. Plus Georgia will be hearing from everyone who wants to crown them before the game even happens, like OSU heard in 2006 prior to the championship game. Let’s enjoy the opportunity. 

40 minutes ago, Boomerang_Brian said:

I’m trying to figure out if one of these consecutive posts was intended to be sarcastic, because they certainly seem to be contradictory. 
 

I’m glad OSU is in. No chance to win a playoff game if you aren’t in. I do agree with Gram’s point that it has a different feel than 2014, but OSU still has a bunch of talent and a month to prepare. Plus Georgia will be hearing from everyone who wants to crown them before the game even happens, like OSU heard in 2006 prior to the championship game. Let’s enjoy the opportunity. 

 

By all rights, in a "normal" season, OSU isn't in.  They're in because....

-Alabama lost on a last second FG to Tennessee and lost by a point in OT to LSU - if either one of those games goes the other way, Bama is probably #4

-USC couldn't beat Utah...twice

-Tennessee gave up 63 to South Carolina (in reality, they probably didn't have a chance once they lost Hooker)

-Clemson lost by a point to South Carolina

 

It really was an incredible amount of things that had to happen to open the door.

 

Now Ryan Day has a chance to rewrite history on this season.  Maybe they rise from the dead a bit a la Bama in 2017.  The chance is there.

 

Doesn't change the fact that he got outcoached in back-to-back Michigan games.  But that'll be forgiven if his team can win two more games this season.

47 minutes ago, DarkandStormy said:

 

By all rights, in a "normal" season, OSU isn't in.  They're in because....

-Alabama lost on a last second FG to Tennessee and lost by a point in OT to LSU - if either one of those games goes the other way, Bama is probably #4

-USC couldn't beat Utah...twice

-Tennessee gave up 63 to South Carolina (in reality, they probably didn't have a chance once they lost Hooker)

-Clemson lost by a point to South Carolina

 

It really was an incredible amount of things that had to happen to open the door.

 

Now Ryan Day has a chance to rewrite history on this season.  Maybe they rise from the dead a bit a la Bama in 2017.  The chance is there.

 

Doesn't change the fact that he got outcoached in back-to-back Michigan games.  But that'll be forgiven if his team can win two more games this season.

While many things had to happen to open the door for OSU, to me that does make it a normal season. How many times have their been four teams with ideal résumés to send to the playoffs?

 

And I’m still trying to understand your reaction to Gram. Was “loser talk” directed at the article or Gram’s comments? Of all the negative comments in this thread, Gram’s seemed not particularly high on the “loser talk” scale. 
 

After all, there were comments here advocating for hiring Bielama. 🤣🤣🤣

Well, I thought we were going to get blown out of the water tonight after our loss to TTUN.  

 

But damn, this one still hurt. 
 

UGA 42, OSU 41 with Ruggles (usually very solid) missing a 50yd FG with 3 seconds to go.  We got outscored 18-6 in the 4th, I think.

Dang. Buckeyes were up by 11 when I went to bed. I had it chalked up as an upset. 

Let’s bring back some happier memories. We were sitting at this end of the stadium. My brother had delayed graduation by a semester to get one more season marching in the band - and what a season it was!

 

I got pepper sprayed that season during the Michigan game when, well, everyone was on the field celebrating. 

21 minutes ago, ColDayMan said:

I got pepper sprayed that season during the Michigan game when, well, everyone was on the field celebrating. 

I was also on the field and I did not get pepper sprayed.

Shame on you!

17 hours ago, Boomerang_Brian said:

I was also on the field and I did not get pepper sprayed.

 

15 hours ago, ColDayMan said:

Shame on you!

 

Shame on me, too, then.  I was also on the field (and came away with a piece of the 50-yard-line for good measure) and didn't get pepper sprayed.

 

Though I also wasn't in the end zone trying to tear down the goalposts.

44 minutes ago, Gramarye said:

Though I also wasn't in the end zone trying to tear down the goalposts.

 

what the heck was osu doing playing wku? who scheduled that? playing small schools can't tell you anything and can only hurt the rankings.

3 minutes ago, mrnyc said:

what the heck was osu doing playing wku? who scheduled that? playing small schools can't tell you anything and can only hurt the rankings.

This is college football. EVERY big conference school plays several smaller schools outside the conference schedule. OSU is playing at Notre Dame next weekend, so it's not like OSU is dodging opponents. Are you familiar with "chickensh*t" Saturday, the SEC tradition of a late season game against a much smaller school the week before their rivalry games?

Just now, Boomerang_Brian said:

This is college football. EVERY big conference school plays several smaller schools outside the conference schedule. OSU is playing at Notre Dame next weekend, so it's not like OSU is dodging opponents. Are you familiar with "chickensh*t" Saturday, the SEC tradition of a late season game against a much smaller school the week before their rivalry games?

 

that doesn't make it right that big ten teams should jump in on that. 

 

it's weak sauce.

 

i went to wku for two semesters in grad school.

 

its a stretch to say they should even be playing mac teams.

1 minute ago, mrnyc said:

 

that doesn't make it right that big ten teams should jump in on that. 

 

it's weak sauce.

 

i went to wku for two semesters in grad school.

 

its a stretch to say they should even be playing mac teams.

OSU is committed to playing at least one major school outside of conference every year. This is much more of a commitment than most major conference schools. If they never played any smaller conference schools, they would be the only school doing that.

4 minutes ago, Boomerang_Brian said:

OSU is committed to playing at least one major school outside of conference every year. This is much more of a commitment than most major conference schools. If they never played any smaller conference schools, they would be the only school doing that.

 

no this matchup is much worse than michigan playing bgsu. wku is a lower level division with even less talent than mac schools.

 

 

Edited September 17, 20231 yr by mrnyc

3 minutes ago, mrnyc said:

 

no this matchup is much worse than michigan playing bgsu. wku is a lower level division with even less talent than mac schools.

 

 

There was absolutely nothing different about OSU playing WKU than any other college football teams’ scheduling. 

1 minute ago, Boomerang_Brian said:

There was absolutely nothing different about OSU playing WKU than any other college football teams’ scheduling. 

 

the talent difference remains obvious as seen in the outcomes of the closer bgsu-mich game results and total blowout osu-wku results. you don't go up the rankings with this kind of weak sauce scheduling -- it only hurts in the end.

 

and need i remind nd is always overrated early on? everyone knows that. regardless i do agree nd-osu should be a permanent annual game.

21 hours ago, mrnyc said:

 

no this matchup is much worse than michigan playing bgsu. wku is a lower level division with even less talent than mac schools.

 

 

WKU is C-USA, which is division one football, I'd love to hear your argument as to why the MAC is so much better than C-Usa? C-usa owns a 53-34 lead in the series. 

 

Also, what's the point of scheduling Notre Dame if they are overrated? I disagree on this as well,. Even though I despise the program as well as the catholic religion, Notre Dame has one of the hardest schedules every year. Yet they still usually get 9-11 wins 

8 hours ago, FrankRizzo said:

WKU is C-USA, which is division one football, I'd love to hear your argument as to why the MAC is so much better than C-Usa? C-usa owns a 53-34 lead in the series. 

 

Also, what's the point of scheduling Notre Dame if they are overrated? I disagree on this as well,. Even though I despise the program as well as the catholic religion, Notre Dame has one of the hardest schedules every year. Yet they still usually get 9-11 wins 

 

yes now i see wku jumped up to that hodgepodge conference in 2009. they most certainly were not div one prior. i also see via an aerial they upgraded their stadium around that time too, it only had half a stadium of seating when i was there.

 

as for scheduling nd every year, it seems pretty obvious why that major brand would be a good idea and a nice rivalry to foster. im sure osu would love it, but thats more up to nd to decide.

 

https://www.si.com/college/notredame/football/notre-dame-football-being-overrated-is-tired-and-lazy-but-wont-go-away