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  • NorthShore64
    NorthShore64

    (7-23-22)                         From above  

  • This proposal sounds beautiful—30 story tower!—and it adds a lot more housing units. Fingers crossed this doesn’t get watered down before final approval.    The Peninsula's $211M second phase:

  • The Peninsula continues to rise ... crazy how the entire area used to be parking lots.            

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This was always a concept with soft targets but nothing ever solid. The TMUD was going to help push it further up on the timeline I think, but we never saw the full details that I recall.  I believe the forces that be will support a decent tower on the peninsula with or without TMUD. It might not be multiple like some prior concepts but the city, CDCC, and the developers have all been pretty consistent in their desire for something big at some point. 

Millennial Tower, Harmony Tower, the high rise proposal for Brewery District, and now possibly this. I have no idea how Austin, Nashville, Charlotte, and Raleigh manage to build high rises and for us, it's like pulling teeth.

Land Value and Outside money.

 

It's coming. We are seeing it. For a long time, Columbus was a local developers market. As outside developers come into the market it *should* push demand. 

 

There's no incentive for Arshot to build Millenial Tower. They paid pennies for that land decades ago. 

 

When a developer starts buying small properties for millions we will see towers rise faster. 

If we get a new zoning code that's not stuck in 1957 that'll help.

  • 3 weeks later...

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Long time reader, first time to post.

 

I lived in Columbus until 1991 at which time I moved to Tampa.  Thought y’all might be interested in this new development downtown because it is very similar to the Scioto Peninsula development.

 

it’s called Water Street. It’s located on the southern edge of downtown (separated from downtown by the Crosstown Expressway) and it sits on the Garrison Channel, which leads out to the Bay then the Gulf.

 

Phase 1 just wrapped up. Includes 7 high rises (20-24 floors) of office/residential/hotel/retail/restaurant/university space. Hotel rates start at $500/night, studio apts at $2K/month, condos at $1 mil.

 

Phase 2, which will include as many buildings, will be on the northern edge of the Crosstown with construction to start next year.

 

Like I said Water Street is so similar to the Scioto Peninsula as far as density, urban location, water location, mixed-use development. Only difference is the building heights.  Too bad the Scioto Peninsula buildings could not have been built higher.

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13 minutes ago, flprepster said:

Too bad the Scioto Peninsula buildings could not have been built higher.

I think most of us have asked this about every new build in the downtown area and Short North for the past 15 years.

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59 minutes ago, John7165 said:

I think most of us have asked this about every new build in the downtown area and Short North for the past 15 years.

 

Legit. Though we have slowly (very slowly) seen projects get taller as infill has continued. Hoping that continues. 

15 minutes ago, DevolsDance said:

 

Legit. Though we have slowly (very slowly) seen projects get taller as infill has continued. Hoping that continues. 

It will, developers have no incentive to build tall, when they own 5+ lots currently. 

14 hours ago, VintageLife said:

It will, developers have no incentive to build tall, when they own 5+ lots currently. 

Agreed. There are WAY too many surface lots in the downtown corridor to ever need to build tall. Also, the downtown workforce has been cut by least 30% with new work-from-home arrangements, so there isn't going to be  the demand for commercial office space. We are only seeing the tip of that ice berg now, once companies'  lease agreements start to expire, many will either not be renewing or drastically downsizing. Huge supply of empty lots + decreasing demand for space = no tall buildings. Trust me, I want tall buildings just as much as all of you, but I just don't ever see it being a reality. 

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10 minutes ago, Mogilny89 said:

Agreed. There are WAY too many surface lots in the downtown corridor to ever need to build tall. Also, the downtown workforce has been cut by least 30% with new work-from-home arrangements, so there isn't going to be  the demand for commercial office space. We are only seeing the tip of that ice berg now, once companies'  lease agreements start to expire, many will either not be renewing or drastically downsizing. Huge supply of empty lots + decreasing demand for space = no tall buildings. Trust me, I want tall buildings just as much as all of you, but I just don't ever see it being a reality. 

I honestly don’t care much about getting super tall buildings. I would rather just get a good proportion of 12-20 story buildings with a really good walkability and street presence. Taller buildings look good, but having the development at ground level is even better. 

58 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

I honestly don’t care much about getting super tall buildings. I would rather just get a good proportion of 12-20 story buildings with a really good walkability and street presence. Taller buildings look good, but having the development at ground level is even better. 

Best we can do is 3-6 stories in car-centric neighborhoods that are anti-pedestrian. Take it or leave it!

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Snatched these from The Peninsula a little earlier

 

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15 hours ago, CbusOrBust said:

Snatched these from The Peninsula a little earlier

 

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I can't get over how relatively decent looking the parking garages are. This should be a minimum standard for them, with other colors maybe to give them some variety. LOL I can't seem to focus on anything but the garages, but it all looks good.

 

*they are a bit dark, but hopefully with some landscaping(I hope they put some decent street trees along them)and with some variety in the surrounding buildings they should be ok color wise. Compared to most of our naked concrete monstrosity garages, these look almost dare I say, classy?

 

Are they going to paint the ugly rail bridges?

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27 minutes ago, Toddguy said:

I can't get over how relatively decent looking the parking garages are. This should be a minimum standard for them, with other colors maybe to give them some variety. LOL I can't seem to focus on anything but the garages, but it all looks good.

 

*they are a bit dark, but hopefully with some landscaping(I hope they put some decent street trees along them)and with some variety in the surrounding buildings they should be ok color wise. Compared to most of our naked concrete monstrosity garages, these look almost dare I say, classy?

 

Are they going to paint the ugly rail bridges?

We were just discussing how sharp those buildings actually look for parking garages!

46 minutes ago, Toddguy said:

I can't get over how relatively decent looking the parking garages are. This should be a minimum standard for them, with other colors maybe to give them some variety. LOL I can't seem to focus on anything but the garages, but it all looks good.

 

*they are a bit dark, but hopefully with some landscaping(I hope they put some decent street trees along them)and with some variety in the surrounding buildings they should be ok color wise. Compared to most of our naked concrete monstrosity garages, these look almost dare I say, classy?

 

Are they going to paint the ugly rail bridges?

I think they’re also supposed to decorated with some pretty colorful artwork, so the dark background of the garage should really make the artwork pop too. 
 

With Phase One getting closer to completion, I wonder if we’ll hear any more news about Phase Two anytime soon? I’m hoping they’re not planning on waiting for the next round of TMUD announcements to start. 

3 hours ago, amped91 said:

I think they’re also supposed to decorated with some pretty colorful artwork, so the dark background of the garage should really make the artwork pop too. 
 

With Phase One getting closer to completion, I wonder if we’ll hear any more news about Phase Two anytime soon? I’m hoping they’re not planning on waiting for the next round of TMUD announcements to start. 

We should really speak out and praise the handling of these garages and let the city know(they were built by the city, right?)that THIS should be the minimum standard for parking garages. They did a decent job here, and we should acknowledge that to them and push for this kind of standard for any future garages, city owned/built or not.  NO. MORE. NAKED. UGLY. CONCRETE. PARKING. GARAGES!

 

*and yes I forgot about the artwork! That and some landscaping/flowers/street trees should help even more. I also would love for the city to take the lead when it builds any more garages to make them like this but also leave the roof to be activated for use and landscaping. Or even solar panels would be nice.  And to encourage the same from private developers. 

 

Parking garages (and often convention centers) are the ugly cancers of downtown development and it does not have to be this way.

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2 minutes ago, Toddguy said:

We should really speak out and praise the handling of these garages and let the city know(they were built by the city, right?)that THIS should be the minimum standard for parking garages. They did a decent job here, and we should acknowledge that to them and push for this kind of standard for any future garages, city owned/built or not.  NO. MORE. NAKED. UGLY. CONCRETE. PARKING. GARAGES!

I would like to see more green type of garages. Trees and plants on the top, vines and growth along the sides. If we are going to be using it to park cars, make it green to help the environment a little bit at least. 

Just now, VintageLife said:

I would like to see more green type of garages. Trees and plants on the top, vines and growth along the sides. If we are going to be using it to park cars, make it green to help the environment a little bit at least. 

Before I saw this I added that to my post. Great minds and all.. :)

3 hours ago, amped91 said:

I think they’re also supposed to decorated with some pretty colorful artwork, so the dark background of the garage should really make the artwork pop too. 
 

With Phase One getting closer to completion, I wonder if we’ll hear any more news about Phase Two anytime soon? I’m hoping they’re not planning on waiting for the next round of TMUD announcements to start. 

 

Looks like a lot is riding on the TMUD based on the peninsula website, crossing my fingers. 

 

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50 minutes ago, DevolsDance said:

 

Looks like a lot is riding on the TMUD based on the peninsula website, crossing my fingers. 

 

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I saw that the applications for the second round of TMUDS went out. Hopefully they get it this time around. 

49 minutes ago, DevolsDance said:

 

Looks like a lot is riding on the TMUD based on the peninsula website, crossing my fingers. 

 

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It's kind of difficult to decipher whether it's truly dependent on receiving the TMUD or if this is essentially them saying they "need" it in order to have a better chancing of being granted it and saving themselves some money.

52 minutes ago, DevolsDance said:

 

Looks like a lot is riding on the TMUD based on the peninsula website, crossing my fingers. 

 

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Just now, VintageLife said:

I saw that the applications for the second round of TMUDS went out. Hopefully they get it this time around. 

I really really want at least some version of a 30 story tower. I want it bad!

11 minutes ago, cbussoccer said:

 

It's kind of difficult to decipher whether it's truly dependent on receiving the TMUD or if this is essentially them saying they "need" it in order to have a better chancing of being granted it and saving themselves some money.

That is how I read it, anyway—that they “need” it. Either way, I’m keeping my fingers crossed that they break ground on something by year’s end, just to keep the momentum rolling, even if they hit “pause” on the 34-story tower until they hear back on the TMUD round two credits. 

Project Update: The Peninsula

 

CU article about the office portion getting its first business next month. This part of phase 2 was a good read. That would be a great location for a grocer.
 

“A second phase of the development – anchored by a 34-story tower and featuring more office, retail and residential space – was announced last fall, although the project was not one of the three Columbus developments chosen in March to receive the state’s new Transformational Mixed-Use Development tax credits.

The proposal has not yet been brought before the Downtown Commission for a design review.

Daimler CEO Robert White, Jr., called the phase two plans “still conceptual,” but added that the development team intends to “go after [the tax credits] in the coming rounds.” The state recently announced the opening of a second round of the program, with an application deadline in July.

He also said that they are “pursuing a first floor grocer,” for the second phase, and that finding the right match for the space could mean a lot for Downtown and the surrounding area.”

13 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

Project Update: The Peninsula

 

CU article about the office portion getting its first business next month. This part of phase 2 was a good read. That would be a great location for a grocer.
 

“A second phase of the development – anchored by a 34-story tower and featuring more office, retail and residential space – was announced last fall, although the project was not one of the three Columbus developments chosen in March to receive the state’s new Transformational Mixed-Use Development tax credits.

The proposal has not yet been brought before the Downtown Commission for a design review.

Daimler CEO Robert White, Jr., called the phase two plans “still conceptual,” but added that the development team intends to “go after [the tax credits] in the coming rounds.” The state recently announced the opening of a second round of the program, with an application deadline in July.

He also said that they are “pursuing a first floor grocer,” for the second phase, and that finding the right match for the space could mean a lot for Downtown and the surrounding area.”

Great. I did not think I could possibly have wanted this development more. I was wrong. Can't the city or some entity just drop some funds to help it along? It will be worth it in the long run. Come on, Les! We can call it the Wexner Cityview Tower or some such thing. Make one more lasting landmark for your ego! Nothing wrong with that.

 

edit-the video they have at CU is so good. 

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With all of the new development between Gravity and the Peninsula (plus everyone else in East Frank), a grocer would be excellent right there. I would’ve loved having a grocery store to walk to when I lived at Gravity.

 

I wouldn’t be surprised if Phase Two ends up shrinking some, but I’m really hoping they still keep it 15+ feet. 

57 minutes ago, amped91 said:

I wouldn’t be surprised if Phase Two ends up shrinking some, but I’m really hoping they still keep it 15+ feet. 

15+ feet? Mirroring the Victorian Village CVS/Grocer outparcel plan? 😉

Daimler's Peninsula office building ready to welcome tenants this summer

 

The development on the Scioto Peninsula is taking shape, with the office building leading the way and ready to welcome tenants at the end of June.

 

Daimler Group is developing the eight-story, 231,000-square-foot office building, which is part of the $250 million first phase of Columbus Downtown Development Corp.'s The Peninsula project.

 

The initial phase also includes an eight-story, 132,000-square-foot, 197-key independent hotel developed by Columbus-based Rockbridge, dubbed The Junto, two mixed-use buildings with 330 residential units between them, and retail space developed by Indianapolis-based Flaherty & Collins.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/05/27/peninsula-tour-daimler-office.html

 

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"You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers

Trader Joe's would be an excellent fit for the area... And the scale of grocer that could fit (without being 2 level)...

Rockbridge's Scioto Peninsula hotel will have a rooftop bar and more
 

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“Columbus hospitality developer Rockbridge plans to include a restaurant, coffee shop, rooftop bar and more at its forthcoming hotel in the Scioto Peninsula development. 

 

The Junto Hotel, now under construction at 77 Belle St., will open next spring with the Little West Tavern, Maudine's independent coffee shop, the Brass Eye rooftop bar and a poutine walkup window.

 

The hotel is named after Benjamin Franklin's club for mutual improvement, the Junto Club. Since Franklinton and Franklin County are named after Franklin and the hotel is planned to be a place to gather, Rockbridge CEO Jim Merkel told Columbus Business First the name seemed fitting.
 

There will also be a gear garage, similar to one Rockbridge built at a hotel in Denver, where hotel guests can check out bikes or scooters to explore the neighborhood.“


https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/06/02/junto-hotel-scioto-peninsula-franklinton-details.html

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... and a poutine walkup window

Wth?

 

🤮

 

^^ this emoji is perfect for this as I hate poutine and I woke up at 7 this morning and promptly vomited for no apparent reason lol.

 

The rest sounds amazing though!!!! I LOVE activated rooftops!

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1 hour ago, Toddguy said:

Wth?

 

🤮

 

^^ this emoji is perfect for this as I hate poutine and I woke up at 7 this morning and promptly vomited for no apparent reason lol.

 

The rest sounds amazing though!!!! I LOVE activated rooftops!

You are crazy, I am super excited for the poutine, hopefully it is authentic style. I will take it all. 

2 hours ago, Toddguy said:

Wth?

 

🤮

 

^^ this emoji is perfect for this as I hate poutine and I woke up at 7 this morning and promptly vomited for no apparent reason lol.

 

The rest sounds amazing though!!!! I LOVE activated rooftops!

I don't know if I can trust someone who doesn't like poutine! Who doesn't love fries, gravy and cheese curds all in one?! Apparently Toddguy! They're crazy!

 

Just kidding (but also not really).

18 hours ago, TIm said:

I don't know if I can trust someone who doesn't like poutine! Who doesn't love fries, gravy and cheese curds all in one?! Apparently Toddguy! They're crazy!

 

Just kidding (but also not really).

Well good for you I guess and I hope you are able in the near future to enjoy your gastronomic atrocity. 😝

19 hours ago, VintageLife said:

You are crazy, I am super excited for the poutine, hopefully it is authentic style. I will take it all. 

What is wrong with y'all!!! 🤢🤮☠️   

 

😜

Here's a pretty cool view of the construction progress on the Scioto Peninsula and in Franklinton that was posted on reddit.

 

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6 hours ago, cbussoccer said:

Here's a pretty cool view of the construction progress on the Scioto Peninsula and in Franklinton that was posted on reddit.

 

 

Whoa. That's our city? I can't believe my eyes, that looks amazing. I like how seamlessly Gravity 2.0 stands with the development. I also like to play I-Spy with other new and existing landmarks with aerial shots like this: (CoverMyMeds HQ, Crew Stadium, I-70, Grandview Summit) etc.

23 minutes ago, PrestoKinetic said:

Whoa. That's our city? I can't believe my eyes, that looks amazing. I like how seamlessly Gravity 2.0 stands with the development. I also like to play I-Spy with other new and existing landmarks with aerial shots like this: (CoverMyMeds HQ, Crew Stadium, I-70, Grandview Summit) etc.

I thought the exact same thing. I had to stare at the picture for a few seconds to get my bearings. But wow, what a great depiction of how far Franklinton and the rest of the central city have come. The same view from 15 years ago would be completely unrecognizable.

Lookin good!

 

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  • 2 weeks later...

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And a shot of the street wall on Belle. 
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Deloitte, Insight Global and Burgess & Niple set to move employees into Peninsula offices
 

“Daimler's office building is 31% pre-leased, with consulting firm Deloitte, staffing company Insight Global and engineering firm Burgess & Niple as its first three tenants. Deloitte and Insight Global will be on the eighth floor. Burgess & Niple have the entire seventh floor and half of the sixth floor.

 

Heather Hiller, vice president of legal and development for Daimler, said the developer is planning on leasing 5,000 to 12,000 square feet to a retail, restaurant or coffee shop on the ground floor. 

 

Hiller said Daimler is moving toward getting another office tenant to take up a full floor before the end of the year.

 

Daimler and Flaherty & Collins also are working on the $211 million second phase of the mixed-use development, which likely will go before area commissions or start the planning process this year. The Peninsula's second phase will feature about 400 new residential units and 245,000 square feet of Class A office space.

 

Daimler is interested in pursuing a grocery store in the second phase at the corner of Broad and Belle streets, but the idea is still in the exploratory phases.”

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/07/15/scioto-peninsula-office-building.html

Here’s the Peninsula from a path at Scioto Audubon. Not the best shot, but it shows how visible this area’s going to be from the south. A 30 story tower would really fit in nicely….

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(7-23-22)

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From above

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Streetscape features are coming in nicely 

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View from Scioto Greenway 

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  • 1 month later...

Streewall!
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I think this Deloitte sign is relatively new. 

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They’ve also added a sign for the Junto hotel. 

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The city really needs to expedite any plans of a pedestrian bridge from north bank/arena district to the peninsula. 

26 minutes ago, NightNectar said:

The city really needs to expedite any plans of a pedestrian bridge from north bank/arena district to the peninsula. 

They do but I just don’t see it happening. The city is always behind on good ideas like this smh. Was talked about before but never executed.

The pedestrian bridge is over 20 years in the making and multiple downtown strategic plans.. surely it will happen THIS round /s

  • 1 month later...

 

9 minutes ago, cbussoccer said:

 

Should've made the whole thing towers. What a wasted opportunity.

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