February 5, 20241 yr On 2/3/2024 at 5:14 PM, DTCL11 said: Is this the image? All we need is the Kangaroo crossing sign outside of the building.
February 6, 20241 yr 7 hours ago, KyleofColumbus said: All we need is the Kangaroo crossing sign outside of the building. No I'm thinking glass with like white or marble or concrete vertical members. Its shaped kind of like a boomerang but it curves up and around.
February 7, 20241 yr Columbus Symphony Orchestra planning 'iconic' performance venue on the Scioto Peninsula costing $275 million "As currently envisioned, the 200,000-square-foot hall would feature a 1,600-seat main orchestra hall, at least nine multi-purpose spaces, rehearsal halls, education space, a community theater, a 500-seat event space and more."
February 7, 20241 yr Tbh I love it. And the optimism the south end of the Peninsula will get a big tower lol
February 7, 20241 yr I can’t get past the article’s paywall - does it mention where they are potentially getting that massive sum of cash?
February 7, 20241 yr So far, the symphony has "identified and committed" $27 million in private funding, leaders said. They hope to fund the project with roughly $133 million from private sources and $140 million from public sources and revenue bonds. per the article
February 7, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, Mogilny89 said: I can’t get past the article’s paywall - does it mention where they are potentially getting that massive sum of cash? Private and public money. They hope to have a bond issue and to get money from the state and city.
February 7, 20241 yr 15 minutes ago, Gnoraa said: Columbus Symphony Orchestra planning 'iconic' performance venue on the Scioto Peninsula costing $275 million "As currently envisioned, the 200,000-square-foot hall would feature a 1,600-seat main orchestra hall, at least nine multi-purpose spaces, rehearsal halls, education space, a community theater, a 500-seat event space and more." It is beautiful and I would love to see it happen. It kind of has similar lines as the Vets museum which makes it kind of cool for the opposite side of the peninsula.
February 7, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Gnoraa said: Columbus Symphony Orchestra planning 'iconic' performance venue on the Scioto Peninsula costing $275 million "As currently envisioned, the 200,000-square-foot hall would feature a 1,600-seat main orchestra hall, at least nine multi-purpose spaces, rehearsal halls, education space, a community theater, a 500-seat event space and more." This is very similar to what I envisioned inside - exterior is a bit different with the wood and sloped roof though. I’m pleasantly surprised and can’t wait for this to get built!
February 7, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, columbus17 said: This is very similar to what I envisioned inside - exterior is a bit different with the wood and sloped roof though. I’m pleasantly surprised and can’t wait for this to get built! Yeah it’s a shame billionaires don’t donate money to stuff like this like they used to. Columbus doesn’t have a ton of ultra wealthy but there are enough here that they shouldn’t even have to get public money for this.
February 7, 20241 yr I really do love it. As mentioned, the design complements the National Vets Memorial across the peninsula. I like how the bend (boomerang) in the building's design pays homage to the bend in the river, forming the peninsula. The transparent halls and glass as well as the ripples in the ceiling also give it a "watery" vibe. I'm going to catch major flack for making the comparison, but it reminds me of the Sydney Opera House in its unconventional design, it's position on a waterfront (not nearly as gorgeous of one of course), and the interior halls. The article makes mention to specific milestones the symphony has to hit, so it sounds like all partied invested in this are dedicated to making sure it doesn't become another pipe dream. Here's hoping.
February 7, 20241 yr Some other interesting tidbits from the article: In 2021, the symphony floated the idea of creating a 3-building venue anchored by the former Ohio National Bank building on High and Town St. that would've included a new parking garage. That plan was scuttled and that plot is supposed to be developed into this by Harsax Management, which we haven't heard anything about in a while: Funding has to be secured by June 2025, and will be evaluated by a third party every six months. If all goes according to plan, groundbreaking for the concert hall would occur three months after the funding deadline for an opening by June 2028.
February 8, 20241 yr My only critique 'as currently envisioned' is that I would like to see the sharp corners softened. Cosi, the Vets, the river, milestone, Main Street Bridge, heck, event the old parking deck avoid acute angles so to me, it almost stands out in a bad contrast with so much of the rest of the building and riverfront in general. That's all. It also makes me hope that it encourages the city to close the street to the East of Cosi and turn it into more of a multi-use plaza than an asphalt cut through that happens to host events.
February 8, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, VintageLife said: Yeah it’s a shame billionaires don’t donate money to stuff like this like they used to. Columbus doesn’t have a ton of ultra wealthy but there are enough here that they shouldn’t even have to get public money for this. Cincinnati still has billionaires funding their symphony and ballet. Though in Cincinnati the symphony also has the additional revenue stream of owning rock venues and being a music promoter for all types.
February 8, 20241 yr 4 hours ago, CMHOhio said: I really do love it. As mentioned, the design complements the National Vets Memorial across the peninsula. I like how the bend (boomerang) in the building's design pays homage to the bend in the river, forming the peninsula. The transparent halls and glass as well as the ripples in the ceiling also give it a "watery" vibe. I'm going to catch major flack for making the comparison, but it reminds me of the Sydney Opera House in its unconventional design, it's position on a waterfront (not nearly as gorgeous of one of course), and the interior halls. The article makes mention to specific milestones the symphony has to hit, so it sounds like all partied invested in this are dedicated to making sure it doesn't become another pipe dream. Here's hoping. Tbh, I was thinking the same thing regarding the Opera House.
February 8, 20241 yr On 2/3/2024 at 3:40 PM, ColDayMan said: I kinda want mass timber + glass, an ode to the Scioto and Skyline. YAY ME!!! 🥰🤩🥳🎉👯♂️ "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 8, 20241 yr 12 hours ago, VintageLife said: Yeah it’s a shame billionaires don’t donate money to stuff like this like they used to. Columbus doesn’t have a ton of ultra wealthy but there are enough here that they shouldn’t even have to get public money for this. The National Veterans Memorial and Museum raised $82 million in donations. The Timashev family donated $17 million for OSU's new art school, and $110 million for OSU's software innovation center. His company, Veeam, donated $5 million for OSU arts scholarships and teaching/research. The Billy Ireland Cartoon Library and Museum got $7 million from the Ireland family, and another $3.5 million from Jean Shulz. All the right people are connected to this to meet that funding goal. Columbus is capable of getting this done. Let's hope they pull through!
February 8, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, aderwent said: The National Veterans Memorial and Museum raised $82 million in donations. The Timashev family donated $17 million for OSU's new art school, and $110 million for OSU's software innovation center. His company, Veeam, donated $5 million for OSU arts scholarships and teaching/research. The Billy Ireland Cartoon Library and Museum got $7 million from the Ireland family, and another $3.5 million from Jean Shulz. All the right people are connected to this to meet that funding goal. Columbus is capable of getting this done. Let's hope they pull through! That’s good to know, thank you for that info. I wonder if some of the big companies will also donate.
February 8, 20241 yr 15 hours ago, Gnoraa said: Columbus Symphony Orchestra planning 'iconic' performance venue on the Scioto Peninsula costing $275 million "As currently envisioned, the 200,000-square-foot hall would feature a 1,600-seat main orchestra hall, at least nine multi-purpose spaces, rehearsal halls, education space, a community theater, a 500-seat event space and more." Looks like a fine and worthy cultural institution for the Peninsula. 200,000 square feet, almost 300 million dollars...it should make a big splash. I also like the optimism of having a tower next to it!
February 8, 20241 yr 10 minutes ago, VintageLife said: That’s good to know, thank you for that info. I wonder if some of the big companies will also donate. Most assuredly.
February 8, 20241 yr 27 minutes ago, Toddguy said: Looks like a fine and worthy cultural institution for the Peninsula. 200,000 square feet, almost 300 million dollars...it should make a big splash. I also like the optimism of having a tower next to it! Right? I love that they have the shadowed depictions of those two high rises, one facing the new concert hall, and the other along what appears to be Broad St. With the momentum in Franklinton, hopefully this is a good harbinger of things to come!
February 8, 20241 yr That's going to be Columbus's ongoing struggle. Legacy cities, on navigable waterways, have 100 years of industry, works progress projects, barons, etc head start. Endowments with 100 years of interest accrual etc. It's at no fault to legacy cities or newer cities. Just how industry and wealth developed over time. That doesn't mean the money isn't there. Just that we find ourselves going to the same fewer benefactors time and time again, doing things like building a symphony hall, that the barons of old built in the early half of the 1900s. I think this achievable. The money is there. No doubt about it. And this is potentially more attractive to donors than the Vets. And most of the same people above are underwriters already. Just a matter of wining and dining for the big checks this time. I think the scope and architecture will be a big draw too. People want their name associated with something like this. Symphony Donors https://columbussymphony.com/support/corporate-giving/corporate-and-foundation-partners-2022-2023/ Edited February 8, 20241 yr by DTCL11
February 8, 20241 yr I like the preliminary design. The broad overhang is reminiscent of the Copenhagen Opera House. Both Copenhagen and Oslo have large public spaces facing water - could happen here too (albeit a smaller body of water!). Both are significant public buildings.
February 8, 20241 yr Someone on Reddit said they should have just renovated the old Vets Memorial building and the symphony wouldn’t need to be building someone.
February 8, 20241 yr The Copenhagen Opera House is so beautiful and has such an amazing presence on the water. Great building from which to draw inspiration!
February 8, 20241 yr 9 minutes ago, VintageLife said: Someone on Reddit said they should have just renovated the old Vets Memorial building and the symphony wouldn’t need to be building someone. Someone on reddit is dumb
February 8, 20241 yr 44 minutes ago, Pablo said: I like the preliminary design. The broad overhang is reminiscent of the Copenhagen Opera House. Both Copenhagen and Oslo have large public spaces facing water - could happen here too (albeit a smaller body of water!). Both are significant public buildings. The interior is reminiscent of the Copenhagen Opera House as well...
February 8, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Pablo said: I like the preliminary design. The broad overhang is reminiscent of the Copenhagen Opera House. Both Copenhagen and Oslo have large public spaces facing water - could happen here too (albeit a smaller body of water!). Both are significant public buildings. Good call. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 8, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, ColDayMan said: Good call. I'm a sucker for Scandinavian architecture.
February 8, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, VintageLife said: Someone on Reddit said they should have just renovated the old Vets Memorial building and the symphony wouldn’t need to be building someone. Oooo, they should have especially saved the one hall with 8-foot ceilings
February 9, 20241 yr Symphony Outlines Plans for $275 Million Concert Hall The Columbus Symphony Orchestra today unveiled more details about its plan to build a new $275 million performing arts venue on the Scioto Peninsula. CSO Executive Director Denise Rehg spoke to Columbus Underground about the project, providing a broad outline of where the proposal currently stands. She also shared plenty of other details, including her perspective on the design (and the importance of utilizing local talent), how other partners are being brought in early in the process (including Columbus City Schools), and why it’s important that the facility be busy and occupied every day, not just on nights the symphony is playing. Here are the main elements of the proposal: The current design of the 205,000-square-foot building – which is still considered conceptual – calls for a 1,600-seat main orchestra hall that would occupy about half of the building. The other half of the building would hold a community theater, an event space, rehearsal halls, educational spaces, and a recording studio. The proposed building would occupy a triangle-shaped, city-owned parcel located at 181 Washington Blvd., just south of COSI. The Columbus Downtown Development Corporation (CDDC), which has led the way in developing the Scioto Peninsula, entered into a Memorandum of Understanding with the symphony that lays out a series of stipulations and milestones for the project. If those conditions are met, the city agrees to lease the land to the symphony for one dollar a year for 99 years. The symphony has secured about $27 million in funding commitments so far – largely from private sources – and is in line to receive a $10 million state capital grant. The timeline in the MOU requires the symphony to have lined up all of the funding commitments needed to build the project by June of 2025. Construction would then need to start within three months and last no longer than three years total, putting a potential opening date for the facility in the summer or early fall of 2028. More below: https://columbusunderground.com/symphony-outlines-plans-for-275-million-concert-hall-bw1/ "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 9, 20241 yr I will say this, the city and county should step up. With giving $70+ million in support to North Market Tower, a couple million, or 'the city's donation will be the land lease value over the next 100 years that it isnt making' isn't going to cut it. Edited February 9, 20241 yr by DTCL11
February 9, 20241 yr 23 minutes ago, DTCL11 said: I will say this, the city and county should step up. With giving $70+ million in support to North Market Tower, a couple million, or 'the city's donation will be the land lease value over the next 100 years that it isnt making' isn't going to cut it. Does anyone know why the city is apparently so unwilling to contribute in this case? It seems like an obvious project for it to be more involved in.
February 9, 20241 yr 4 minutes ago, amped91 said: Does anyone know why the city is apparently so unwilling to contribute in this case? It seems like an obvious project for it to be more involved in. I dont know that they are unwilling. It's still very early so I'm not criticizing them yet... just that they should be as details get worked out when compared to another major project they bent over backwards to make sure happens. A nudge as things get moving as it were.
February 9, 20241 yr 34 minutes ago, amped91 said: Does anyone know why the city is apparently so unwilling to contribute in this case? It seems like an obvious project for it to be more involved in. Ginther spotted a cracked sidewalk off of Harrisburg Pike
February 9, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, DTCL11 said: I dont know that they are unwilling. It's still very early so I'm not criticizing them yet... just that they should be as details get worked out when compared to another major project they bent over backwards to make sure happens. A nudge as things get moving as it were. I’m thinking of this quote from the Dispatch: ‘"That’s a very valuable site for the city," Davies added. "The city has made it clear it won't pay any money for the project, but it will donate the land if the symphony can raise the money."’ it strikes me as odd that the city would “make it clear” they won’t pay any money for it. Of course, it wouldn’t be surprising to me either if good ol’ Bill Bush just butchered the quote too.
February 9, 20241 yr I didn't catch the Dispatch article. That's kind of ridiculous if that's the case. I'll reserve going off on a tangent until we have more details in 2025 😅
February 9, 20241 yr The city needs the money to make its streets less safe for pedestrians and bicyclists.
February 9, 20241 yr 32 minutes ago, DTCL11 said: I didn't catch the Dispatch article. That's kind of ridiculous if that's the case. I'll reserve going off on a tangent until we have more details in 2025 😅 They probably know that people will lose their minds if the city puts any money towards it. Half the comments I’ve seen on social media already are asking how much the city is paying and getting all pissy about it.
February 9, 20241 yr 9 hours ago, amped91 said: Does anyone know why the city is apparently so unwilling to contribute in this case? It seems like an obvious project for it to be more involved in. The Columbus Symphony must not be donating enough to Ginther.
February 9, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, 17thState said: The Columbus Symphony must not be donating enough to Ginther. I have an idea. They could start band practice at 2:30am right outside his house everyday. Or get the guys who maintains the tubas to go test them in his neighborhood or something.
February 9, 20241 yr I think the city is staying out for now both for optics and to see if private money can get it done. If donors are able to cover the full amount, then great. At the end of the day if the Symphony gets very close but needs a final push to get over the finish line, I think the city in some form would step in and help out. Until then, why stick their neck out (beyond providing the land) for a project that may not happen. They're hedging their bets
February 9, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, NW24HX said: I think the city is staying out for now both for optics and to see if private money can get it done. If donors are able to cover the full amount, then great. At the end of the day if the Symphony gets very close but needs a final push to get over the finish line, I think the city in some form would step in and help out. Until then, why stick their neck out (beyond providing the land) for a project that may not happen. They're hedging their bets Agreed. Which is why I'm reserving my frustration for 2025 🫠
February 9, 20241 yr Hi all! Symphony employee here. So glad to read that you all are liking what we've shared. Just know that the community ground swell behind a project like this is almost as important the money itself. If you want to see this happen as much as I do, tell people about it! Tell your officials about it! Spread the word! Oh, and come to a Symphony concert! (We have tickets starting at $10 for our Masterworks series and kids 6-16 are free!) Just know, we are working hard everyday because we truly believe this is something the city needs.
February 9, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, SaccharineSymph said: Hi all! Symphony employee here. So glad to read that you all are liking what we've shared. Just know that the community ground swell behind a project like this is almost as important the money itself. If you want to see this happen as much as I do, tell people about it! Tell your officials about it! Spread the word! Oh, and come to a Symphony concert! (We have tickets starting at $10 for our Masterworks series and kids 6-16 are free!) Just know, we are working hard everyday because we truly believe this is something the city needs. What is your confidence that this will A: happen and B: look like this rendering? I hope funding goes well and hope to see some shows here in a few years!
February 9, 20241 yr 13 minutes ago, SaccharineSymph said: Hi all! Symphony employee here. So glad to read that you all are liking what we've shared. Just know that the community ground swell behind a project like this is almost as important the money itself. If you want to see this happen as much as I do, tell people about it! Tell your officials about it! Spread the word! Oh, and come to a Symphony concert! (We have tickets starting at $10 for our Masterworks series and kids 6-16 are free!) Just know, we are working hard everyday because we truly believe this is something the city needs. Welcome and will do! "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 9, 20241 yr CAPA says proposed $275 million Columbus Symphony Orchestra venue would grow the arts in Columbus The Columbus Symphony Orchestra's potential move across the Scioto River into a new $275 million performance venue would mean a loss of a significant tenant for the historic Ohio Theatre. But CAPA CEO Chad Whittington, whose organization owns and operates the Ohio Theatre, is still excited about the project. "We will miss the symphony if this were to come to fruition; the symphony's been a big part of the Ohio Theatre for decades. It's a big part of the program that happens there," Whittington told Columbus Business First. "But at the same time, I'm confident that there are other opportunities in the future that will be able to fill the gap that would be left by the symphony in terms of programming." More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/02/09/capa-on-proposed-275-million-symphony-project.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
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