17 minutes ago, DTCL11 said:

 

Because Columbus isn't pulling in the corporate money that those places are. It's not just developers. Columbus needs to attract the business dollars and staff to see that kind of vertical growth.  Companies that leave other markets favor those 3 at the moment. Things will shift eventually. But until they do, don't expect a tower boom anytime soon.  

 

With such a large portion of business going private equity the Columbus office gets the axe. We're don't have a lot of private equity firms based here.

14 minutes ago, sono4315 said:

I was reading an article that Austin is having a very hard time filling their office space downtown. 

100% this, I’m fine with Columbus building smarter for the time. Huge office spaces are probably mostly a thing of the past. 

45 minutes ago, sono4315 said:

I was reading an article that Austin is having a very hard time filling their office space downtown. 

Everyone is. Investing in office is like buying Intel stock

On 11/27/2024 at 10:34 PM, cbussoccer said:

It’s important to note that those renderings were only brought to the commission for a design review for the parking deck levels. The residential portion is being designed separately and will be brought to the commission separately. So I’m not sure how “final” these renderings are. Regardless, the massive reduction in overall size is a massive disappointment. 

 

Correct, the parking deck levels are being designed by the Columbus Architectural Studio and the upper levels are by NBBJ.

On 11/30/2024 at 2:07 PM, VintageLife said:

100% this, I’m fine with Columbus building smarter for the time. Huge office spaces are probably mostly a thing of the past. 

I'd 100% prefer good mixed used development between 10-15 stories if the buildings look great and the street activation / amenities are top notch. I loathe the 12 story buildings with ground floor commercial followed by 5 floors of parking before 6 floors of residential. 

52 minutes ago, KyleofColumbus said:

I'd 100% prefer good mixed used development between 10-15 stories if the buildings look great and the street activation / amenities are top notch. I loathe the 12 story buildings with ground floor commercial followed by 5 floors of parking before 6 floors of residential. 

Yeah, I’m hoping those go away soon. I don’t see it happening until BRT picks up, but hopefully developers start getting rid of the parking garages. 

1 hour ago, VintageLife said:

Yeah, I’m hoping those go away soon. I don’t see it happening until BRT picks up, but hopefully developers start getting rid of the parking garages. 

So far this is all dedicated parking garages. Seems to be just a little under half the space of the entire development.  

3 hours ago, sono4315 said:

So far this is all dedicated parking garages. Seems to be just a little under half the space of the entire development.  

There's also an entire parking garage under the commons before going into Cosi and several garages on the other side of the tracks in Franklinton. There's no need for any more parking garages. 

20 minutes ago, KyleofColumbus said:

There's also an entire parking garage under the commons before going into Cosi and several garages on the other side of the tracks in Franklinton. There's no need for any more parking garages. 

100%, I would guess those aren’t even full outside of some of the events along the Scioto 

On 11/27/2024 at 9:34 PM, cbussoccer said:

It’s important to note that those renderings were only brought to the commission for a design review for the parking deck levels. The residential portion is being designed separately and will be brought to the commission separately. So I’m not sure how “final” these renderings are. Regardless, the massive reduction in overall size is a massive disappointment. 

 

 

31 minutes ago, jonoh81 said:

 

 

Columbus has some of the worst architecture I've ever seen. And it just keeps getting more boring and horrible. 

16 minutes ago, columbus17 said:

Columbus has some of the worst architecture I've ever seen. And it just keeps getting more boring and horrible. 

It’s mainly because Columbus has had their building booms during times when cost are super high. 

20 minutes ago, columbus17 said:

Columbus has some of the worst architecture I've ever seen. And it just keeps getting more boring and horrible. 

Do you travel much? Architecture all over the country is boring right now. I’d say what you see being built here is pretty normal around the country, unfortunately. 

23 minutes ago, cbussoccer said:

Do you travel much? Architecture all over the country is boring right now. I’d say what you see being built here is pretty normal around the country, unfortunately. 

You're not wrong. We just tore down all our good stuff. There are affordable housing developments on the east coast that look like luxury developments here just because they're designed better (costs are similar if not cheaper).

On 12/5/2024 at 6:51 PM, cbussoccer said:

Do you travel much? Architecture all over the country is boring right now. I’d say what you see being built here is pretty normal around the country, unfortunately. 

South Park got it spot on with the whole SoDoSoPa thing. Those trendy spots and neighborhoods are in every decent sized city now and they all look quite similar, mainly the architecture.

Sorry, no actual news but I saw this project from Milwaukee and something like this is what should be going in. It’s such a joke that the most recent rendering is likely what we will be getting. I know the final design hasn’t been put out, but I have zero faith in it being anything exciting. 
 

To make this more sad, this isn’t even that close to the actual downtown of Milwaukee 
 

 

 

another angle: 

 

Edited December 20, 2024Dec 20 by VintageLife

On 11/30/2024 at 2:01 PM, GCrites said:

 

With such a large portion of business going private equity the Columbus office gets the axe. We're don't have a lot of private equity firms based here.

It doesn’t mean that at all… PE normally doesn’t move offices because they don’t actually operate the day to day

1 hour ago, wpcc88 said:

It doesn’t mean that at all… PE normally doesn’t move offices because they don’t actually operate the day to day

They do outsource a ton of jobs though. I know of a couple corporations locally who were acquired by PE and hundreds of jobs ended up getting outsourced to India. It sucks, but it makes the cost of operation much cheaper. 

20 minutes ago, cbussoccer said:

They do outsource a ton of jobs though. I know of a couple corporations locally who were acquired by PE and hundreds of jobs ended up getting outsourced to India. It sucks, but it makes the cost of operation much cheaper. 

Maybe for IT or collections and the like, just depends on what the company does. I’ve unfortunately worked for 3 companies owned by PE and they do run thin but again not always in the business of moving HQ’s, etc. Remember they’re interested in returns and moving costs, etc increase the cost.

 

Can't remember if this was already here?  Is this a new construction trailer on the Peninsula?

 

 

42 minutes ago, CbusOrBust said:

 

Can't remember if this was already here?  Is this a new construction trailer on the Peninsula?

 

 

Yes, it's for the new 7 story apartment building going up nearby in phase 2. It will match the other white building completed in the foreground.  

Edited March 17Mar 17 by sono4315

Spaghetti Warehouse site is now called the Macklin:

 

Spaghetti Warehouse replacement apartment complex to include bar, homage to site's past

 

"Two apartment buildings, one of them with a bar, would replace the Spaghetti Warehouse building on West Broad Street under new plans that pay homage to the property's history.

 

The plans provide more detail to concepts presented in October by the property's owners, who demolished the Spaghetti Warehouse building in February to make way for the development.

 

The plans call for two seven-story buildings housing a total of 250 apartments in a complex called The Macklin, in honor of a hotel that once stood on the property."

 

https://www.dispatch.com/story/business/real-estate/2025/04/15/an-inside-look-at-the-complex-planned-on-spaghetti-warehouse-site/83098498007/

25 minutes ago, aderwent said:

Spaghetti Warehouse replacement apartment complex to include bar, homage to site's past

 

"Two apartment buildings, one of them with a bar, would replace the Spaghetti Warehouse building on West Broad Street under new plans that pay homage to the property's history.

 

The plans provide more detail to concepts presented in October by the property's owners, who demolished the Spaghetti Warehouse building in February to make way for the development.

 

The plans call for two seven-story buildings housing a total of 250 apartments in a complex called The Macklin, in honor of a hotel that once stood on the property."

 

https://www.dispatch.com/story/business/real-estate/2025/04/15/an-inside-look-at-the-complex-planned-on-spaghetti-warehouse-site/83098498007/

 

I can't read the article. Do they have any updated renderings?

5 minutes ago, cbussoccer said:

 

I can't read the article. Do they have any updated renderings?

I posted them in the previous comment.

12 minutes ago, aderwent said:

I posted them in the previous comment.

 

I'm an idiot. I didn't realize there were multiple comments above that one haha.

 

Today isn't my first day on the internet, I promise!

51 minutes ago, aderwent said:

Spaghetti Warehouse site is now called the Macklin:

 

I don’t 100% hate this. I still think the south section should be 10 stories and it would be perfect. The brick looks good, but would love to see larger windows like older warehouse buildings have. 
 

Can’t tell if that street is meant to be pedestrian only, but it should be and retail should line the entire east facing side of the building. Happy to see that it does look like the south side will have retail? 

21 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

I don’t 100% hate this. I still think the south section should be 10 stories and it would be perfect. The brick looks good, but would love to see larger windows like older warehouse buildings have. 
 

Can’t tell if that street is meant to be pedestrian only, but it should be and retail should line the entire east facing side of the building. Happy to see that it does look like the south side will have retail? 

 

I agree either the north or south section should be around 10-12 stories. 

 

Not sure the entire east side of the building being commercial space is realistic though. It would be very difficult to fill that much retail space in such a closed off area. 

This looks great and mirror the original building very well. I'm honestly surprised.

1 hour ago, cbussoccer said:

Not sure the entire east side of the building being commercial space is realistic though. It would be very difficult to fill that much retail space in such a closed off area. 

You’re probably right, but I just dream of having an area that is European feeling, with shops and cafes and no cars haha 

1 hour ago, VintageLife said:

 

Can’t tell if that street is meant to be pedestrian only, but it should be and retail should line the entire east facing side of the building.
 

Unsure if this is where you’re referencing, but these two views appear to show barriers (just above the yellow lines). So, maybe…

22 minutes ago, Bryan2Cbus said:

Unsure if this is where you’re referencing, but these two views appear to show barriers (just above the yellow lines). So, maybe…

Yes, that’s the section I was talking about. I couldn’t zoom in enough, and this section below confused me. It’s very clearly a road. They must be removable bollards?? 
 

 

The full proposal is on the city permit portal, under planning record COA2500283. It shows a pedestrian plaza that doubles as an emergency access road.

 

 

5 minutes ago, .justin said:

The full proposal is on the city permit portal, under planning record COA2500283. It shows a pedestrian plaza that doubles as an emergency access road.

 

 

So they aren’t connected? That seems really weird and unnecessary 

I'm glad the tunnels under the east tracks are being maintained. I find them to be kinda cool

8 minutes ago, Pablo said:

I'm glad the tunnels under the east tracks are being maintained. I find them to be kinda cool

Don’t they just go straight into the back wall of the parking garage? 

12 hours ago, VintageLife said:

Don’t they just go straight into the back wall of the parking garage? 

The northern one on Capital St. still connects to Starling

How is this 7 stories when it very clearly shows 6? Am I seeing it wrong or something? 

49 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

How is this 7 stories when it very clearly shows 6? Am I seeing it wrong or something? 

 

The retail/lobby/fitness spaces fronting Broad and State are double height. The parking takes up 2 floors.

Edited April 16Apr 16 by .justin

3 minutes ago, .justin said:

 

The retail/lobby/fitness spaces fronting Broad and State are double height. The parking takes up 2 floors.

Just saw that in the CU article. I guess I have never noticed any development saying that. Aren’t they usually just labeled a 6 story with a high ceiling on the first floor? 

Any new residential building being built in this prominent new area needs to at least have space for several retail/restaurant spaces. I mostly see the first floor being used for residents (lobby, workspace room/lounge, leading office) basically the entire north side faving Broad does nothing for pedestrians on the street level. The only corner I see with retail is on the south side corner for a coffee shop. 

10 minutes ago, sono4315 said:

Any new residential building being built in this prominent new area needs to at least have space for several retail/restaurant spaces. I mostly see the first floor being used for residents (lobby, workspace room/lounge, leading office) basically the entire north side faving Broad does nothing for pedestrians on the street level. The only corner I see with retail is on the south side corner for a coffee shop. 

 

According to the Business First article, the Broad St. side would include 2,200 sq. ft. of retail space and a third floor "winter garden" (I guess that's the vegetation in the building cutout mimicking Gravity across the street). The State St. side would be the one that contain more resident-focused services, including a fitness center, bike repair area, and co-working space.

1 hour ago, CMHOhio said:

 

According to the Business First article, the Broad St. side would include 2,200 sq. ft. of retail space and a third floor "winter garden" (I guess that's the vegetation in the building cutout mimicking Gravity across the street). The State St. side would be the one that contain more resident-focused services, including a fitness center, bike repair area, and co-working space.

Looks like I got them turned around. The one corner looks to be a bar on Broad Street from the plans. 

Development Plan Submitted for Spaghetti Warehouse Site

 

The Downtown Commission will soon get a chance to weigh in on the design of a proposed development on the former Spaghetti Warehouse site. The board approved the demolition of the large brick building that held the restaurant for over 40 years in October, and the structure was taken down in February.

 

The latest plan for the site, which was submitted to the city in advance of the commission meeting on April 22, calls for two seven-story buildings that would hold a total of 250 apartments. Each building would have its own amenity deck and parking garage, with a total parking count of 277. A road along the eastern edge of the site would for allow cars to enter from either West Broad Street or West State Street and provide access for emergency vehicles, but renderings show that much of the roadway could be blocked off so that it would function more as a pedestrian plaza.

 

More below:

https://columbusunderground.com/development-plan-submitted-for-spaghetti-warehouse-site-bw1/

 

Plans unveiled for mixed-use development at old Spaghetti Warehouse site

 

Plans were unveiled for a new mixed-used development at the site of the former Spaghetti Warehouse building in Franklinton.

 

The new concept, called The Macklin, is located at 397 W. Broad St., where the former restaurant operated from 1978 to 2022.

 

Plans submitted to the Downtown Commission show two, seven-story brick buildings with a total of 250 units.

 

The top five stories of each building will be residential and the bottom two levels will be reserved for parking with a total of 277 spots.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2025/04/16/plans-apartments-old-spaghetti-warehouse.html

 

Plan to redevelop former Spaghetti Warehouse site receives feedback from Downtown Commission

 

Plans for a new mixed-used development at the site of the former Spaghetti Warehouse building in Franklinton were presented Tuesday before the Downtown Commission.

 

Commissioners provided positive feedback on the concept, with one commissioner calling it "an amazing step forward."

 

"You demolished a building that was important and to replace it with something this nice, I think is great," Commissioner Jeffrey Pongonis said.

 

The development, called The Macklin, is located at 397 W. Broad St., where the former restaurant operated from 1978 to 2022.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2025/04/22/macklin-spaghetti-warehouse-development.html

 

18 hours ago, ColDayMan said:

Plan to redevelop former Spaghetti Warehouse site receives feedback from Downtown Commission

 

Plans for a new mixed-used development at the site of the former Spaghetti Warehouse building in Franklinton were presented Tuesday before the Downtown Commission.

 

Commissioners provided positive feedback on the concept, with one commissioner calling it "an amazing step forward."

 

"You demolished a building that was important and to replace it with something this nice, I think is great," Commissioner Jeffrey Pongonis said.

 

The development, called The Macklin, is located at 397 W. Broad St., where the former restaurant operated from 1978 to 2022.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2025/04/22/macklin-spaghetti-warehouse-development.html

 

Yeah honestly this one's pretty awesome. I'm shocked how well they've done with it

4 minutes ago, columbus17 said:

Yeah honestly this one's pretty awesome. I'm shocked how well they've done with it

I’m just hoping it actually gets built. They haven’t done a feasibility study yet, but it sounded like they are doing that just to see how many affordable units they can provide. Kelley made it a point to say that they wanted to have as many affordable units as possible. 

3 minutes ago, columbus17 said:

Yeah honestly this one's pretty awesome. I'm shocked how well they've done with it

 

The design's not bad- provided it is actually built as indicated- but I wish there was more height variation in the two parts and that they were taller. 

1 minute ago, jonoh81 said:

 

The design's not bad- provided it is actually built as indicated- but I wish there was more height variation in the two parts and that they were taller. 

100% agree with this, I think the state st side would have been great at 10 stories. I almost wish they would only build the broad st side and wait for the other half.