I believe this is legit.  I hope I'm not wrong.

 

http://www.curtisgotslappedbyawhiteteacher.com/

 

It starts out a little serious, but once the demands start coming out, oh boy....

Meh.  This one's shorter and sweeter:

 

http://abovethelaw.com/2010/12/atl-lawyer-of-the-year-1974/

If a teacher ever hit my kid, I hope all I do is write some crazy 40 page letter.

Meh.  This one's shorter and sweeter:

 

http://abovethelaw.com/2010/12/atl-lawyer-of-the-year-1974/

 

Now that was funny as hell!

I believe this is legit.  I hope I'm not wrong.

 

http://www.curtisgotslappedbyawhiteteacher.com/

 

It starts out a little serious, but once the demands start coming out, oh boy....

 

Funny?  40 pages is not funny!

If a teacher ever hit my kid, I hope all I do is write some crazy 40 page letter.

I have a friend and relatives who are teachers/administrators.  Some of those children need to be hit!

If a teacher ever hit my kid, I hope all I do is write some crazy 40 page letter.

I have a friend and relatives who are teachers/administrators. Some of those children need to be hit!

 

I have a friend who's a kid.  Some of those teachers/administrators need to be hit! :-P

Through the 8th grade I attended a township school with two grades per classroom and alternating recitation and study times. The rowdy roughneck kids could expect frequent beatings with a wooden one-by-four paddle about two feet long or strappings with a leather belt until they were red-faced and bawling, and then were expected to go back and take their seats as if nothing had happened. It was a time and place when corporal punishment was routine, and if you got into trouble at school, you could expect worse when you got home.

 

My teacher in the fifth and sixth grades, a big bruiser of a macho guy, took an early dislike to me that I only figured out years later probably was related to some sort of negative dynamic between his wife and my lesbian aunt and some of her friends. That, and the fact that I was the farthest thing from a jock that you could imagine. I was singled out fairly often for gratuitous physical persecution.

 

He wore rubber-soled shoes, had his desk at the back of the classroom, and often came and went via the coat room alongside the classroom, so that during study times we never knew if he was in the room or not (we were forbidden from turning around and looking to see). Once in the sixth grade during a study time, he came up silently behind me and, with a geography book, one of those old wide, thin ones, hit me across the back of the head hard enough to knock me out of my seat. I may have been visibly daydreaming - I did that a lot - when it happened, but I wasn't making any noise or doing anything to annoy or distract anyone else.

 

Another time, in the music room in the basement, a room with straight-backed wooden chairs arranged in semi-circular rows around a piano, he slipped up behind me and picked me out of my chair by the collar and belt and tossed me across two rows of chairs. Everyone else in the room, including the music teacher, pretended not to notice anything unusual. I never did figure out what might have triggered that one.

 

Some things are hard to get past, and every now and then when something reminds my of my experiences in his classroom I experience a flash of anger and regret that that b*****d is dead, and I can't go to the nursing home and sneak up behind his wheelchair and knock his decrepit, feeble a** out onto the floor with a geography book.

If a teacher ever hit my kid, I hope all I do is write some crazy 40 page letter.

I have a friend and relatives who are teachers/administrators

 

That would just give me extra incentive.  But seriously, if I have never put a hand on my kid, I'll be da#&ed if someone else does.

 

 

If a teacher ever hit my kid, I hope all I do is write some crazy 40 page letter.

I have a friend and relatives who are teachers/administrators

 

That would just give me extra incentive.  But seriously, if I have never put a hand on my kid, I'll be da#&ed if someone else does.

 

 

 

Obviously we disagree.  If a child pops a 'tude with me, I might just spank that ass!    I wasn't raised that way and knew that if I spoke back to an adult or did something wrong, I was gonna get in  trouble with that person and when I got  home.

IMO that's taking the easy way out as a parent.  But parents do maintain some discretion which they may exercise with respect to their own kids. 

 

Teachers as well, to a much more limited extent.  It's perfectly possible and reasonable that a teacher have physical contact with a student to varying degrees when self defense or defending another student or defending the student may justify it.  Incidental contact during the course of the day is, of course, also perfectly fine, even if that is grabbing the kid by the arm to take him down to the principal's office.  But society has clearly evolved past the point of teachers striking students as a form of discipline.

^I am a left of center all the way and I have to disagree.  I would bring back the corporal punishment we had when I was in school (in fact, while I hated it back then myself, I would not have a problem with the least administratively formal corporal punishment administered by teachers regularly...it did keep kids in line and kids needed it...then and now...probably more now).

^I am a left of center all the way and I have to disagree. I would bring back the corporal punishment we had when I was in school (in fact, while I hated it back then myself, I would not have a problem with the least administratively formal corporal punishment administered by teachers regularly...it did keep kids in line and kids needed it...then and now...probably more now).

and how do you determine which kid gets it and which kid doesn't?  and what happens when someone takes it too far like Rob's a-hole teacher obviously did?

 

I don't have kids and so i can't say that i will never spank my child...but, i will endeavor to do everything else to not do so.  That isn't to say that my child will not be disciplined...but there are other ways to effectively do so.  I'll support a teacher disciplining my kid as they see fit, but the second it crosses to corporal punishment, i'll have that teacher's job.

You do have to kind of think about it though.

 

Look at schools back then

 

....then look at schools today....

 

Discipline was far stronger back then.  Private schools are fortunate to have an easy situation.  They don't have to punish, they can just kick the kid out of school.

I do believe that research conducted suggests that spanking and other forms of corporal punishment by parents will show positive results as far as immediate compliance is concerned.  But long term effects are negative.  Kids who get beat are more likely to engage in violent behavoir themselves, and are much more likely to engage in bullying of younger, smaller, weaker kids.  This is why I consider the "easy way out" for a parent and won't do it myself. 

 

 

Research? Studies?!? Pfft!?! What kind of nancy-ass gives a flying sh!t about what a study "suggests"? Do those people have to pay your kids' bail?

 

If you're a dad and you want your kids to behave, play rugby - and let the kids watch, especially if they're around kindergarten age and *especially* during a game where you collide head-on with an opponent. Don't worry if the other guy gets carried off on a stretcher, he'll be okay - and it's okay that you need help off the field, and *really* don't worry about that three-inch gash on your head that's streaming blood all down your face - just let Mom (in nursing school at the time) stitch it up fieldside. Mind you, she thought she'd either be a widower or taking care of a paraplegic and raising the two kids that just witnessed the whole horrific event, but nah - a little needle, rubbing alcohol and stitchwork and you're good to go! Take about ten minutes to rest up and recover, then go back out into the game. You'll never need to spank your kids except for a swat on the rear as they're being sent to their room.

 

I'm just saying - if anything will put the "fear of god" into your kids, it's letting them watch you play rugby (and them realizing that not only are you a crazy barbarian, but Mom is the one who can keep you from killing us). I'm almost 40 and one *scowl* from my dad shuts me up! So when I see some nincompoop trying to "negotiate" with their tantrum-throwing five year old - give me a break, be a parent, discipline your kid (within reason) and quit worrying about "oh golly gosh, what ever might they think about me?!?".

I am in position where I can observe on a daily basis parents who are afraid to or just won't discipline their kids.  Sometimes it just amazes given how I was raised (and by the way we still adore our parents).  This is probably the reason that corporal punishment is needed in schools...(of course these laid back parents will be the first to howl about it)

^^This "nancy-ass" I suppose. 

 

^You would agree, though, that there are other forms of "discipline" and quite effective forms that don't involve physical abuse?  Me.... I don't negotiate.  My kid listens to me and I have never laid a hand on him.  Sure... it is harder to deal with him that way than giving him a quick backhand and dealing with whatever consequences that brings on later.  But what kind of "nancy-ass" beats a 4 yr old anyway?  And like I said, if any nancy-ass teacher ever does that to my kid, I will show him what kind of nancy ass he really is. 

 

My "nancy-ass" comment was rhetorical for the most part - and clearly - if you don't negotiate, and your kid listens, you're not who I'm venting about. And yeah, no teacher ever had to even consider that with me because they knew my parents had that covered and had dibs on beating me senseless and aside from the "go to your room" swat, that's all the corporal discipline I got. My parents wouldn't have it any other way, and I think you're from the same school. Hear me out.

 

I'm talking about the many parents I've encountered who have bought into the 'permissive' school of thought, and read every study that suggests that any slight hint of discipline will stunt the kid's expressiveness/growth.  I repeat, not advocating anything beyond a light swat on the rear to get their attention - but apparently that constitutes abuse nowadays. AKA if the kid decides to throw a screaming tantrum in the grocery store (it's always the grocery store, and ALWAYS when I'm in earshot), well just let them scream it out for 20 minutes! Oh goodness, someone might call Childrens Services if they dare attempt to discipline their kid. I will never forget the time at the grocery store when I heard some gal say "now now, that kind of behavior isn't appropriate and you're making Mommy upset. Isn't there a better way to resolve this?" - with. a. toddler.. That's where I start saying "are you kidding me? quit being a nancy@ss and start being a parent!". 

Agreed.  100% on the "nancy" comment then.

 

I don't spank, but I don't judge others for doing it for the most part.  I don't think it is best parenting practices and, yes, I do believe studies/research/whatever can back that up.  Regardless, it is the parents right and I certainly respect that (just don't do it to my kid).

 

But I'm definitely not a "no touch" parent either.  He can be made to sit down if he even dreams of having a tantrum.  He can be forcibly taken where he needs to go (see above comment I posted about the teacher's prerogative to do this as well).  But when I see some mom give her toddler an open hand smack at the mall, I can't agree with that.  Mind you, the spark for this thread was a letter some crazy parent had written after a teacher had open hand smacked her kid (even if it is a farce), which would be even worse.

My wife and I have standing orders with our childrens' teachers to be informed as soon as any class-room disciplinary problems pop-up.  We want to nip them in the bud before they become chronic.  I am not a parent who takes a "not MY kid" type of attitude.

 

The story that Robert tells does raise some good points as to why teachers probably shouldn't be given carte-blanche to use corporal punishment in the classroom: What if the teacher is on a power trip and enjoys punishing certain kids and can do it by hiding behind what is legal?  After all, it's the kid's word against his.

Parents who don't want to be informed as soon as any class-room disciplinary problems pop-up are a plague on society.  I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they are the same parents who beat the crap out of their kid for spilling the milk on the linoleum kitchen floor at home.  They just don't want to be bothered with being parents.

 

BTW, cue a rant from MTS in 3, 2, 1....

 

 

 

 

I do believe that research conducted suggests that spanking and other forms of corporal punishment by parents will show positive results as far as immediate compliance is concerned.  But long term effects are negative.  Kids who get beat are more likely to engage in violent behavoir themselves, and are much more likely to engage in bullying of younger, smaller, weaker kids.  This is why I consider the "easy way out" for a parent and won't do it myself. 

 

 

 

I was spanked/got an ass whippin' and I turned out just fine!  I never picked on anyone younger, smaller or weaker!  NEVA

 

Parents who don't want to be informed as soon as any class-room disciplinary problems pop-up are a plague on society.  I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they are the same parents who beat the crap out of their kid for spilling the milk on the linoleum kitchen floor at home.  They just don't want to be bothered with being parents.

 

BTW, cue a rant from MTS in 3, 2, 1....

 

Linoleum?  GASP.  I that instance, the parents should be beat and caned for having hideous flooring!

 

I say beat the kids ass!  A beat child is a responsive child!  An ass whippin' will give them something to think about and (hopefully) they wont do it again!

 

This is how I punish Thing 1 and 2 when they get out of hand!

 

Spare the rod, Spoil the Child

 

 

"Spare the rod, spoil the child" was lost in translation my man (at least according to the only preacher who ever caught my ear... a guy from your burb no less).  More like "spare the STAFF, spoil the child".... as in a "shepherd's staff".... as in a tool for guidance, not a weapon.  Meaning, if you spare your guidance as a parent, you spoil the child.

 

As an "abomination" descended from a race of mankind who could be beat (albeit slowly) by their masters.... you, of all people, should know not to take everything you read in the King James version so literally  :angel:

1) Not funny. 40 pages, then "White", that person loses immediately. That kid will grow up thinking he is incapable of doing wrong, which is why he got slapped. Google Curtis Bowen in 10 years, lets see how he turns out. That Mom is nuts.

 

2) Very funny

My "nancy-ass" comment was rhetorical for the most part - and clearly - if you don't negotiate, and your kid listens, you're not who I'm venting about. And yeah, no teacher ever had to even consider that with me because they knew my parents had that covered and had dibs on beating me senseless and aside from the "go to your room" swat, that's all the corporal discipline I got. My parents wouldn't have it any other way, and I think you're from the same school. Hear me out.

 

I'm talking about the many parents I've encountered who have bought into the 'permissive' school of thought, and read every study that suggests that any slight hint of discipline will stunt the kid's expressiveness/growth. I repeat, not advocating anything beyond a light swat on the rear to get their attention - but apparently that constitutes abuse nowadays. AKA if the kid decides to throw a screaming tantrum in the grocery store (it's always the grocery store, and ALWAYS when I'm in earshot), well just let them scream it out for 20 minutes! Oh goodness, someone might call Childrens Services if they dare attempt to discipline their kid. I will never forget the time at the grocery store when I heard some gal say "now now, that kind of behavior isn't appropriate and you're making Mommy upset. Isn't there a better way to resolve this?" - with. a. toddler.. That's where I start saying "are you kidding me? quit being a nancy@ss and start being a parent!".

 

yeah that "first-time mommy" overindulgent and lack of disciplining crap is irritating. they really need to watch ceasar the dog whisperer. seriously. i mean talking to your own children like they are adults or worse like they are your best friend is just so wrong. at least they get over that behavior quick...once they have more kids - ha!

 

there is an equally annoying corollary, the "do ya wanna...? mommy." do you wanna have a drink of juice?, do you wanna go here? yadda while the poor kid just stands there or fusses.

 

of course all of this dopey parenting behavior includes the clueless daddys too, if they're even around.

 

rant!!!/

 

 

Agreed. 100% on the "nancy" comment then.

 

I don't spank, but I don't judge others for doing it for the most part. I don't think it is best parenting practices and, yes, I do believe studies/research/whatever can back that up. Regardless, it is the parents right and I certainly respect that (just don't do it to my kid).

 

But I'm definitely not a "no touch" parent either. He can be made to sit down if he even dreams of having a tantrum. He can be forcibly taken where he needs to go (see above comment I posted about the teacher's prerogative to do this as well). But when I see some mom give her toddler an open hand smack at the mall, I can't agree with that. Mind you, the spark for this thread was a letter some crazy parent had written after a teacher had open hand smacked her kid (even if it is a farce), which would be even worse.

 

well i agree with you with one exception. the best practice on spanking is it should only be done immediately when a child does anything life-endangering (ie., reach on the stove, run toward the street, etc.). then experts agree an immediate ceremonial spanking is warranted (meaning making a show of it, a noise-making smak or three on the rear, disapproving remarks, etc). hopefully you never have that occasion!