Grandview Yard expansion demolition (Sun. 11-15-20)

 

 

 

 

 

The Homes on Pullman Way

 

 

 

 

 

M/I Homes at Grandview Yard

 

 

 

From the parking garage on Bobcat Avenue

 

 

 

 

Kipton North Apartments

 

 

 

Does anyone know or have a link for what will actually be built on the 9 acre GV Yard expansion?

1 hour ago, 614love said:

Does anyone know or have a link for what will actually be built on the 9 acre GV Yard expansion?

From what I can tell there aren't any specific plans for south of Goodale announced yet. The closest I can remember to plans for the expansion are from this article:

 

"While no plan formally has been presented to the city for the area’s development, the likely scenario would be mixed-use, including retail, office and residential components and a hotel, DeGraw said." 

Sep. 2018 - https://www.thisweeknews.com/news/20180924/grandview-yard-split-council-backs-southward-growth

 

Just for reference, the demolition, site prep and new roadway infrastructure for much of Grandview Yards was finished in 2016. From this there are still ~6 parcels which haven't been developed yet, so it could be a bit before we see something built south of Goodale. Who knows though, they only started this whole project 10 years ago.

1 hour ago, NorthShore647 said:

From what I can tell there aren't any specific plans for south of Goodale announced yet. The closest I can remember to plans for the expansion are from this article:

 

"While no plan formally has been presented to the city for the area’s development, the likely scenario would be mixed-use, including retail, office and residential components and a hotel, DeGraw said." 

Sep. 2018 - https://www.thisweeknews.com/news/20180924/grandview-yard-split-council-backs-southward-growth

 

Just for reference, the demolition, site prep and new roadway infrastructure for much of Grandview Yards was finished in 2016. From this there are still ~6 parcels which haven't been developed yet, so it could be a bit before we see something built south of Goodale. Who knows though, they only started this whole project 10 years ago.

I feel like it won’t be much different from the buildings that are in the current development. I can’t see them going much different with design or height. 

52 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

I feel like it won’t be much different from the buildings that are in the current development. I can’t see them going much different with design or height. 

 

Totally. One of NRI's most recent developments is the Chipotle building in the Arena District. If they are still building 4 story office buildings south of 670 in downtown, they won't build anything taller in Grandview Heights. 

1 hour ago, NorthShore647 said:

 

Totally. One of NRI's most recent developments is the Chipotle building in the Arena District. If they are still building 4 story office buildings south of 670 in downtown, they won't build anything taller in Grandview Heights. 

It’s such a shame also. Their buildings all look really good and seem to be great quality, but are so damn short, for no reason. 

57 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

It’s such a shame also. Their buildings all look really good and seem to be great quality, but are so damn short, for no reason. 

 

Nationwide is not a risk-taker in terms of development, which I guess makes sense given their overall business.

3 hours ago, VintageLife said:

It’s such a shame also. Their buildings all look really good and seem to be great quality, but are so damn short, for no reason. 

Their condo buildings along Long look good and are 12 -20 floors...I wish they would integrate height like that elsewhere. They did a good job with those buildings-they make a nice row(which they could extend westward of course) They really could go taller in the south area since it is smaller and separate and close to railroad tracks-by tracks might be a place where stacking floors of units on top of floors of parking might be ok and allow taller and denser buildings.

 

*I wish Cbus could do the same thing(add garages to reduce surface parking and allow for new builds) in the Gowdy Field strip across the tracks from Grandview Yard-3 buildings adrift in a sea of parking spaces like it was in Dublin or Easton or something.

Edited November 17, 20204 yr by Toddguy

20 minutes ago, Toddguy said:

Their condo buildings along Long look good and are 12 -20 floors...I wish they would integrate height like that elsewhere. They did a good job with those buildings-they make a nice row(which they could extend westward of course) They really could go taller in the south area since it is smaller and separate and close to railroad tracks-by tracks might be a place where stacking floors of units on top of floors of parking might be ok and allow taller and denser buildings.

 

*I wish Cbus could do the same thing(add garages to reduce surface parking and allow for new builds) in the Gowdy Field strip across the tracks from Grandview Yard-3 buildings adrift in a sea of parking spaces like it was in Dublin or Easton or something.

Agree, I hate parking lots, but I guess the benefit is they can always be converted. If there is demand for more rental space, I would think the companies would want to build more. 
 
I can’t remember, but is the land they are working with now next to railroad tracks? If so, I guess you could say they would want to go higher so the noise is less?? But who knows, maybe we will all be surprised. 

9 hours ago, Toddguy said:

Their condo buildings along Long look good and are 12 -20 floors...I wish they would integrate height like that elsewhere. They did a good job with those buildings-they make a nice row(which they could extend westward of course) They really could go taller in the south area since it is smaller and separate and close to railroad tracks-by tracks might be a place where stacking floors of units on top of floors of parking might be ok and allow taller and denser buildings.

 

*I wish Cbus could do the same thing(add garages to reduce surface parking and allow for new builds) in the Gowdy Field strip across the tracks from Grandview Yard-3 buildings adrift in a sea of parking spaces like it was in Dublin or Easton or something.

The Gowdy Field buildings are built on a landfill making construction very expensive. I recall reading the buildings are on piers 80' deep so they won't sink. That's why Olentangy River Road has dips in it - the road keeps sinking.

1 hour ago, Pablo said:

The Gowdy Field buildings are built on a landfill making construction very expensive. I recall reading the buildings are on piers 80' deep so they won't sink. That's why Olentangy River Road has dips in it - the road keeps sinking.

Ok well I guess that does rule out heavy parking garages. oh well.

Completed demolition of the building at 869 Goodale for the Grandview Yard expansion (Sat. 1-9-21)

 

Edited January 11, 20214 yr by NorthShore647

So, they're working on the extension of Yard St past Goodale.  I'm not really sure what the vertical building is.

 

25 minutes ago, TH3BUDDHA said:

So, they're working on the extension of Yard St past Goodale.  I'm not really sure what the vertical building is.

 

I wonder if there was a deal with one of the property owners that they would re-build in place? Seems like the only reason we wouldn't have seen a development proposal?

It will be a full redevelopment.  I have SCOURED Grandview Heights and can find renderings for a ton of projects but not this one. I can only find their tax abatement and zoning documents which outline the specifics of what is to be built. There are lots of meeting notes where they discuss it but no renderings. 

 

Tri-W doesn't have any other information out there either as far as I can find and neither does elford. 

 

Two old articles talk about these plots as well.

 

 

"Although the W.W. Williams Co. soon will depart Grandview Heights, the successor company formed by the remaining portion of the family-run business plans to redevelop its West Goodale Boulevard site and adjacent properties.

Tri-W Group -- formerly known as the W.W. Williams Co. -- is partnering with Elford Development to develop the nearly 10-acre site at 799-913 W. Goodale Blvd. The site includes 835 W. Goodale, which for more than 90 years has served as the corporate headquarters of W.W. Williams.

The company, founded in 1912 and in Grandview since 1927, provides mechanical service and repair along with logistics services.

The new development is expected to include retail, restaurant, office and multifamily components."

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thisweeknews.com/news/20171030/ww-williams-co-grandview-mainstay-makes-way%3ftemplate=ampart

 

https://www.columbusunderground.com/development-planned-for-ten-acres-site-south-of-grandview-yard-bw1

 

I've done all the internet sleuthing I can without calling the city or Tri-W directly. But whatever it is has been approved. Who doesn't love a surprise building?! 

 

But in reality, we can probably put money on what it will look like. 

Edited April 24, 20214 yr by DTCL11

On 4/23/2021 at 10:29 PM, DTCL11 said:

But in reality, we can probably put money on what it will look like. 

Laughed out loud at that one. I don't know, maybe they'll surprise us and throw in some pseudo-warehouse aesthetic to differentiate? Or choose a slightly different shade of brick? The possibilities are ENDLESS!

Edited May 17, 20214 yr by jebleprls22

On 4/5/2020 at 5:31 PM, Columbo said:

From https://www.thisweeknews.com/news/20200328/opwc-awards-nearly-30-million-for-20-central-ohio-roadway-projects:

 

Grandview Heights was awarded $6.18 million in funding from the Ohio Public Works Commission for an $11.46 million project to extend Yard Street, Bobcat Avenue and Swan Street and related utilities into an addition of the Grandview Yard development south of Goodale Boulevard:

I believe the Swan St. and Yard St. extension project is underway. I couldn't snap a photo when I drove by on 315. The area between the tracks at Twin Rivers Dr. has been cleared. Twin Rivers is closed for what I assume is storm sewer work. There's a bunch of storm pipe visible and a stockpile of pre-cast concrete storm sewer structures along Goodale.

How isn't there any articles or documents out there for this Grandview Yard "South" expansion? I've scoured Grandview's website and haven't found anything, nor anything from local sources (Dispatch, Tri-Village, Business First, CU). I drove by this afternoon, and I counted ~ 6 stairwells/elevator shafts. Whatever is going in there, it looks like a lot of it is getting built out at once. One of them looks to be at maybe 5 stories tall, so they aren't minor buildings (by Grandview Yard standards!) either.

 

From what I hear, another goal of the south expansion is link up NW Blvd to the new Swan street that is under construction. Looking at google maps, that makes a lot of sense ... however they'd need to take out a couple buildings. One of them, Photographic Techniques, recently put a Sells circus mural on the side of their building. I'd be kinda bummed to see that go! 

Found something! These are in regards to utility improvements, but have the outlines of the new Tri-W buildings. Looks like Tri-W is taking up most of the south expansion and is using surface lots for parking :(

Edited June 21, 20213 yr by futureman

Grandview Yard expansion (6-19-21)

 

 

Work is finishing up on The Homes on Pullman Way

 

 

And the rest of the M/I Homes at Grandview Yard

 

Nice but way too many earth tones. It makes one long for good old Columbus orange/red brick. Does it all have to be so drab?  It will look permanently cloudy-even sunlight will not liven it up.

On 6/20/2021 at 10:08 PM, futureman said:

Found something! These are in regards to utility improvements, but have the outlines of the new Tri-W buildings. Looks like Tri-W is taking up most of the south expansion and is using surface lots for parking :(

So now we have a better idea of what parcels they were able to get and the kind of agreements that were made in land swap to build roads, etc. Happy for undergrounding power lines, relocating traffic lights, etc. Surface parking lots can always be redeveloped. And additional street connections will help this area feel less isolated. 

Longtime lurker, first time poster here. I don't have photo posting privileges yet, but here is some helpful info on the Tri-W development/Grandview Yard south expansion including site plans and conceptual renderings: https://www.grandviewheights.gov/DocumentCenter/View/5954/Certificate-of-Appropriateness-Dwgs-TRI-W

 

Nice find! At long last some detailed renderings. This looks to be ~6 stories at Goodale, then goes back to 5 at swan. All in all looks like solid addition to the Grandview Yard! (minus the surface lots)

Yeah looks good along Goodale, but definitely lots of surface lots, also I was surprised to see tandem parking spaces? I'm curious how they intend those to be used? Maybe both assigned to a single multi-bedroom apartment? 

8 hours ago, 17thState said:

Yeah looks good along Goodale, but definitely lots of surface lots, also I was surprised to see tandem parking spaces? I'm curious how they intend those to be used? Maybe both assigned to a single multi-bedroom apartment? 

That’s how they’re used at the Yardley along Parsons. Honestly one of the reasons we chose not to rent there. It would’ve been a huge house with our opposite schedules at the time. 

Looks like a new phase of Grandview Yard might be kicking off. There is large hole in the ground just south the new restaurant that opened (Habaneros) on Yard St. Looks like it could be the start of foundation. I haven't seen any announcement yet, certainly seems like it's more than just moving dirt around for the new homes being built to the West on Bobcat. We'll see!

 

 

On 8/31/2021 at 9:29 PM, futureman said:

Looks like a new phase of Grandview Yard might be kicking off. There is large hole in the ground just south the new restaurant that opened (Habaneros) on Yard St. Looks like it could be the start of foundation. I haven't seen any announcement yet, certainly seems like it's more than just moving dirt around for the new homes being built to the West on Bobcat. We'll see!

 

 

There’s a fenced off portion with equipment on site between the two OSUWMC office buildings on Olentangy River Rd. At first I thought it might be a staging area for the above, but now after looking at this map and that site again, idk if that would make sense from a logistics standpoint. Anyone hear anything?

Edited September 12, 20213 yr by amped91

On 9/12/2021 at 4:34 PM, amped91 said:

There’s a fenced off portion with equipment on site between the two OSUWMC office buildings on Olentangy River Rd. At first I thought it might be a staging area for the above, but now after looking at this map and that site again, idk if that would make sense from a logistics standpoint. Anyone hear anything?

Maybe this? https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2020/02/27/ohio-states-wexner-medical-center-to-buy-more-land.html - sounds like it could just be more parking ...

4 minutes ago, futureman said:

Maybe this? https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2020/02/27/ohio-states-wexner-medical-center-to-buy-more-land.html - sounds like it could just be more parking ...

Gross. Thank you for the information, though!

On 9/12/2021 at 4:34 PM, amped91 said:

There’s a fenced off portion with equipment on site between the two OSUWMC office buildings on Olentangy River Rd. At first I thought it might be a staging area for the above, but now after looking at this map and that site again, idk if that would make sense from a logistics standpoint. Anyone hear anything?

 

That site is very difficult and expensive to build on because of the landfill. When the Time Warner / Spectrum building was constructed they had to drill piers 80' deep to get through the dump to firm ground. 

That's why the road keeps sinking too.

OSU said in its proposal that the medical center “desires to acquire the site to support the future growth of the cancer programs located within the (Breast Center) and to alleviate the parking shortfall that has developed with the growth of programs offered.”

 

I don't know seems like they have bigger plans than just a parking lot. 

 

Plus I don't think OSU is that concerned about the cost to develop the site. They've got pretty deep pockets to develop whatever they want. 

Edited September 19, 20213 yr by 17thState
Added additional thoughts

On 9/13/2021 at 7:51 PM, amped91 said:

Gross. Thank you for the information, though!

I don’t think it’s more parking.. I’ll be going past again tomorrow but it looks like they’re using it as staging at the moment for aggregates or something

On 8/31/2021 at 9:29 PM, futureman said:

Looks like a new phase of Grandview Yard might be kicking off. There is large hole in the ground just south the new restaurant that opened (Habaneros) on Yard St. Looks like it could be the start of foundation. I haven't seen any announcement yet, certainly seems like it's more than just moving dirt around for the new homes being built to the West on Bobcat. We'll see!

 

 

 

Hmmm, never mind - looks like the filled in the giant hole that was dug out a couple weeks back. Regarding the construction in Gowdy Fields, it looks like the are drilling for something and they have gravel bays/storage towards the railroad tracks. Not really sure what's going on there ...

Tri-w / Grandview Yard southern expansion (10-13-21)

 

 

Bobcat Avenue Extension

 

 

Future development site

 

View from the Goodale Street bridge

Holy wow, they didn't waste any time on slapping up that building

On 10/18/2021 at 11:59 AM, jebleprls22 said:

Holy wow, they didn't waste any time on slapping up that building

They have been working weekends (at least the framing crew) for the past couple of months. 

Not sure if this has been posted or not but this complex is being built by Elford which is the same company as The Reach. Surprised they started on another project because I’ve heard The Reach is struggling a little to get leased up.

This lot should be the next grandview yard apartment complex. It should be starting in January.

6 hours ago, 614love said:

Not sure if this has been posted or not but this complex is being built by Elford which is the same company as The Reach. Surprised they started on another project because I’ve heard The Reach is struggling a little to get leased up.

 

 

^That’s the Grandview Yard extension, isn’t it?

3 hours ago, amped91 said:

^That’s the Grandview Yard extension, isn’t it?

It’s not owned by NRI who owns GVY it’s owned by Elford who also owns The Reach

2 hours ago, 614love said:

It’s not owned by NRI who owns GVY it’s owned by Elford who also owns The Reach

 

Your point is well taken about this development south of Goodale not being owned by NRI (as the rest of Grandview Yard north of Goodale is).  This development south of Goodale is actually owned by the Tri-W Group, who operated the W. W. Williams business at this location until they moved in 2016, and Elford is acting as their developer.

 

Since this south of Goodale project was announced in 2018, the media (see links below) has been referring to it as an expansion of Grandview Yard:

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2018/09/12/grandview-yard-could-expand-its-footprint.html

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2019/02/11/13-acregrandview-yard-expansion-approved.html

 

Also, many posters have been updating this south of Goodale project in this Grandview Yard thread.  So I moved your post from The Reach on Goodale/White Castle HQ thread into this thread.  Thank you for the update.

Looks like ground prep is beginning for the next phase of the Grandview Yard extension?

 

New apartment building coming to The Yard. Should be 128ish units finished Spring 2023.

Heard Brian Ellis COO of NRI said “let’s ramp up construction in GVY and Arena District”. What that means exactly I’m not sure but any recent NRI proposals might have new life.

1 hour ago, 614love said:

Heard Brian Ellis COO of NRI said “let’s ramp up construction in GVY and Arena District”. What that means exactly I’m not sure but any recent NRI proposals might have new life.

 

Ramp up? As in build taller? Sounds good to me Brian!

1 hour ago, 614love said:

Heard Brian Ellis COO of NRI said “let’s ramp up construction in GVY and Arena District”. What that means exactly I’m not sure but any recent NRI proposals might have new life.

Where did you see this?

2 hours ago, cbussoccer said:

 

Ramp up? As in build taller? Sounds good to me Brian!

 

He probably literally means a ramp.  Aka a parking garage.