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...anyone want to see a floor plan?  Critiques welcome...

 

FYI, X wasn't referring to you. So please post floor plans whenever you like.

 

EDIT: BTW.... for those of who suggested the revival of Slavic Village needed a "star attraction" like the West Side Market or Lincoln Park or Asia Plaza or the Mafia, the Morgana Run bike path may be one. There is another.

 

See the thread at....

 

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,22105.msg588958.html#msg588958

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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But wait, there's more! Seems the word is getting out on the attraction of Slavic Village? Is Third Federal driving this one too??

 

 

 

Ord. No. 1599-11

By Council Member Brancatelli

 

Authorizing the sale of real property as part of the Land Reutilization Program and located at Marble Ave., between E. 77th Street and E. 78th Street to D & B Realty Holdings Co., Ltd. or designee.

 

Remarks by Director of Community Development Department:  See Legislation.

 

PASSAGE RECOMMENDED BY COMMITTEE ON COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

 

____________

 

I did a Google search on D&B Realty Holdings, and came across this property which is just north of the proposed land sale noted above....

 

http://www.city-data.com/cuyahoga-county/I/Issler-Court-1.html

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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Still more........

 

 

City Planning Committee

WEDNESDAY, November 30, 2011

1:30 p.m.

MERCEDES COTNER COMMITTEE ROOM

217 CITY HALL

 

Ord. No. 1383-11

By Council Members Brancatelli, Miller, Cleveland, and Sweeney (by departmental request)

 

To vacate a portion of East 78th Street.

 

Remarks by Director of Mayor’s Office of Capital Projects:  See Legislation.

 

RELIEVED BY COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC SERVICE.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Cycling enthusiasts plan bicycle track on former Cleveland hospital site

By Thomas Ott, The Plain Dealer

Tuesday, November 29, 2011

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- A group of cycling enthusiasts plans to open a banked oval bicycle track next year on the former site of St. Michael Hospital in Cleveland.

 

The nonprofit Fast Track Cycling Inc. hopes the track eventually will grow into an $7.5 million complex that will provide exercise for adults and children and bring cyclists to the Slavic Village neighborhood from across the country.

 

Cleveland City Council voted Monday to give Fast Track Cycling a two-year lease with an option to buy. The company will rent the property for $1 a year ...

 

... More at http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2011/11/cycling_enthusiasts_plan_bicyc.html

I heard from Joe Shafran that Paran Management is looking into acquiring Broadway Shoppes across from Third Federal, could help out the neighborhood a bit.

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That would be great. Joe is a smart guy and knows a good investment.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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This was originally on the April 16 BZA docket........

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2012/crr05-29-2012.pdf

 

10:30

Ward 12

Calendar No. 12-24

3662 East 65th Street

Anthony Brancatelli

15 Notices

 

Sarah Smith, owner, appeals to change the use of a building located on an 80’x140’ parcel in a Lo-cal Retail Business District from a bank to a restaurant; contrary to the regulations of Zoning Code Section 349.04(f), which requires one off-street space for each four seats and one space for each employee, equaling 35 off-street parking spaces, whereas 17 parking spaces are provided. (Filed 2-3-12; no testimony taken.)

 

Second postponement requested by the appellant for additional time to work with the Councilman and Slavic Village Development Corporation about the parking arrangement.

 

This is across the street from St. Stan's....

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^ Okay, this ass backward zoning b.s. should be pissing all of us off.

 

p.s. that building is quite beautiful

That's what variances are for.

They new business needs to clearly articulate why the code as stated detrimental. Should be easy enough. Wonder why they keep postponing

 

That's what variances are for.

 

 

That doesn't solve the issue where adhering to zoning results in teardowns and more surface lots.

I agree.

And I'm not saying it shouldn't be fixed. But it is easier to get a variance from the Planning Commission than it is to get a zoning change, which would require (in CLE) positive referral from the BZA, then Planning Comminssion, and then go through three readings at council (don't forget - summer recess is coming up) before being approved.

 

The question stands - why do they keep postponing it. Is the Councilman against it, or not willing to work with them? I cannot imagine Brancatelli being like that, but who knows.

It's also a helluva a lot easier and CHEAPER to get a variance than it is to buy land and tear down a building for additional parking.

It's also a helluva a lot easier and CHEAPER to get a variance than it is to buy land and tear down a building for additional parking.

 

I'm not sure I get your point. I'm not questioning the value in pursuing a variance. I'm questioning why urban-killing requirements for setbacks, parking spaces, etc. are still favored by zoning in 2012.

Its just one of those things that need to change. Same thing goes for minimum parking requirements. We should be mandating maximum parking requirements; that is, no more than x amount of spaces per sq ft of blah blah blah, instead of no less than.

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The road and infrastructure work is nearly complete for Morgana Run's 100 home phase one...it will be nice to see this area start to come back as it is one of my favorite neighborhoods that is not in the limelight:

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Was everyone aware of the Hyacinth lofts?  When I was looking for apartments they had one advertised at 1100 per month:

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Was everyone aware of the Hyacinth lofts?  When I was looking for apartments they had one advertised at 1100 per month:

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Yes. Very cool place. Cleveland's IndieFilm club used to meet there.

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Yes, St. Hyacinth Lofts is famous as a place to live if you're into the arts. At least that's the "brand" I've known it for.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

The road and infrastructure work is nearly complete for Morgana Run's 100 home phase one...it will be nice to see this area start to come back as it is one of my favorite neighborhoods that is not in the limelight:

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Was everyone aware of the Hyacinth lofts?  When I was looking for apartments they had one advertised at 1100 per month:

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IMG_2471 by lilblondiecan2003, on Flickr

 

This is one of Dave Perkowski's buildings, like the Bloch Building (http://www.tremontlofts.com/blochbuilding/) and Tower Press (http://www.towerpress.com/). He's a really well-reputed developer that does a good job polishing up old industrial buildings. He's leveraged HUD funding effectively to provide low-income rental for artists in some of his buildings, who then tend to be a magnet for higher-income market-rate renters. Each of the buildings have a bit of a theme ... Bloch is "creative commercial" space, Tower Press is visual arts live/work and Hyacinth is media/film live-work.

I have a friend who lives in Hyacinth.  Great building, nice people (neighbors), terrible location.  FYI, there is a building caddy-cornered from Hyacinth which the same owner owns, I believe, and is possibly in the pipeline for a renovation

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Anyone know if this is in response to a potential new user, or is it to have the zoning conform to existing uses (there are already homes and retailers including Walgreen's and a McDonald's). This is near where the Morgana Trail crosses Broadway....

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2012/06152012/index.php

 

City Planning Commission

Agenda for June 15, 2012

 

Ordinance No. 616-12(Ward 12/Councilmember Brancatelli): Changing the Use Districts of lands bounded by Kenyon Avenue, Broadway Avenue and Ackley Road from Semi-Industry and General Retail to Local Retail Business, Two Family or Open Space Recreation.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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FYI: I posted a question on facebook regarding an update on the Trailside at Morgana Run development and this was the response I received:

"Hi Josh, we are in for building permit in the next week and are hopeful to break ground the first of September. We are working very hard on developing a website and other material that we should be making public soon. Are you interested in being one of our first buyers?"

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jjames0408, FYI one of the salepersons for Zaremba frequents this site.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I wonder if that's who responded to me...hmm.

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Far south end of the neighborhood, west of the Mill Creek development.......

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2012/10192012/index.php

City Planning Commission

Agenda for October 19, 2012

 

Ordinance No. 842-12(Ward 2/Councilmember Reed): Changing the Use and Area Districts of land on the southwest side of Turney Road between Warner Road and Macomb Avenue to a Two Family Residential District and a ‘B’ Area District.

 

Ordinance No. 843-12(Ward 2/Councilmember Reed): Changing the Use Districts of land on the south side of the intersection of Warner Road and Turney Road to Open Space and Recreation.

 

Ordinance No. 844-12(Ward 2/Councilmember Reed): Changing the Use District of lands located on the east side of Warner Road south of Turney Road to Grand Division Avenue from General Retail to Local Retail.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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City Planning Commission

Agenda for November 16, 2012

 

EAST DESIGN REVIEW

 

EAST2012-036 – Dollar General New Construction

Project Address: 6045-6115 Broadway Avenue

Project Representatives: Mark Jablonski, CenterMark Development

Mark Smith, Design Management Architects

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2012/11162012/index.php

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

The agenda says it will be built to the street in the "New Urbanist style". That's an actual quote. Too bad they have to demo the empty boarded up building there already that looks like apartments over retail. And the design has no entrance on the street. It'll be just a blank wall with a couple tiny windows along broadway. Is urbanist the new buzzword? Even when they try to appease the urban crowd they manage to screw it up.

I don't think they know what urbanist means, but it's a start.  Lip service is better than "urban what?"

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I love all the blank murals they've provided for neighborhood kids to demonstrate their artistic skills.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I don't think they know what urbanist means, but it's a start.  Lip service is better than "urban what?"

 

Changed my mind.  They're trying to co-opt that term in order to neuter it.  If you can call this New Urbanist, then you can call anything anything.  Not a positive development in any way.

I drove by the Trailside at Morgana Run development the other day and it looks as though they are finalizing the streets and utilities.  Hopefully, we will start to see some construction soon!

think the planning commission accidentally listed this as "dollar general" when the plan is for "dollar tree". Two totally different stores. Dollar tree is also generally in nicer areas too. I call it a win - except I agree with the blank wall problem KJP

Apartments over retail should be replaced by apartments over retail.  Simple as pie.  Vacant lot?  How about apartments over retail.  That sounds nice.

 

If they were building a Dollar Tree in Pataskala or Ada or Muckymuck Township it would look just like this one.  How is that not a problem?  We're talking about Broadway in Cleveland.  The road that goes to Pittsburgh.  That should mean something.  If we don't think so, how can we expect anyone else to ever think so?

I love all the blank murals they've provided for neighborhood kids to demonstrate their artistic skills.

 

I truly wish there was some kind of workable, wall-to-window ratio required in building codes.  Having a blank (or mostly blank) wall along a street shouldn't be allowed in 2012.

Many places do have that.  We should as well.

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Great ideas! E-mail the planning commission staff and urge that they draft some suggested building code language for adoption...

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/directory.html

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Many places do have that.  We should as well.

 

Good to hear. Welp, unfortunately I'm guessing we still don't have this on the books in Lakewood.

 

Here's the beautiful, new and much heralded Discount Drug Mart on Detroit Ave in the heart of downtown. Those narrow horizontal slots are the windows.

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Here's the beautiful, new and much heralded Discount Drug Mart:

 

Where is that?

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

 

Here's the beautiful, new and much heralded Discount Drug Mart:

 

Where is that?

 

Lakewood Plaza. Which consequently, features a barbwire fence connected to the adjacent building, I believe it's the Masonic bldg. How's that for a beautiful main street?!?!

I know this isn't pertinent to this thread, so mods feel free to move it, but I am just wondering what your project in Slavic Village currently is Zimzolla? I cringe every time I see Slavic Village in the demo thread or on the planning commission's website because I fear losing more beautiful buildings. Please someone help this neighborhood! If Slavic Village dies permanently, It will be a huge loss for Cleveland.

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Thusly moved. :)

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Oh, well City Beautiful is currently working with the Slavic Village development corporation, Councilman Brancatelli, and planners from the City of Cleveland to develop an urban plan focusing on housing, historic preservation, economic development, and green space for the neighborhood. We are trying to figure out a way to strengthen the neighborhood brand as a polish enclave, attract new residents who are interested in active lifestyles (really being pushed by the CDC, think morgana run and the velodrome), bring investment to fleet avenue and attempt to concentrate the dispersed polish community groups there, figure out tough preservation problems like AB Hart school and the myriad of dilapidated housing in the neighborhood (saving the historic ones and demoing the least historic and most dilapidated), and getting investment into the historic Broadway avenue area. That's a pretty broad overview of our goals.

 

And believe me, if it were up to me, there would be no demolitions, but in the reality that we face, the city has demo money burning a hole in its pocket, so the best we can do is divert the demolitions away from the best housing and the most intact neighborhoods.

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A must-read article. This article got me to want to move to Slavic Village! And the story of Mike Malak, the retired city water department worker, will surely put a tear in your eye....

 

How a Community Demolished Its Way Out of a Crisis

By George E. Condon Jr. | Monday, December 10, 2012 | 5:12 p.m.

 

CLEVELAND - To outsiders, the Polish Constitution Day parade wending its way down Cleveland’s East 65th Street did not seem anything special. Though it was spirited and the participants undeniably put a lot of work into the 130 units, it couldn’t match the city’s much larger St. Patrick’s Day parade, whose 245 units drew half a million people downtown just a month earlier. Nor could it rival the nation’s most famous Constitution Day event, the Chicago parade that would attract 250,000 to Grant Park six days later.

 

But to Anthony Brancatelli and the other residents of Slavic Village and its Warszawa Historic District, folks who have had to fight so hard in recent years to save their neighborhood, this parade was about as special as it gets. Almost no neighborhood in the country has been hit harder over the last decade than Slavic Village. In 2007, it drew international attention when it suffered more home foreclosures than any other place in the country. Abandoned houses suddenly blighted every street. Crime soared as gangs got emboldened. Churches were shuttered. And, yes, even the Constitution Day parade that had been so much a part of the community for so many decades was taken away from them, moved in 2010 by a skittish Ohio Polish American Congress intent on fleeing to a suburb they viewed as safer.

 

READ MORE AT:

http://mobile.nationaljournal.com/features/restoration-calls/how-a-community-demolished-its-way-out-of-a-crisis-20121210?page=1

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Awesome!  Ironically I was coming on here to post it.  Great to hear about the people planting roots to rebuild a new foundation and future for a cultural gem like Slavic Village.

Good read.

 

I went to the Red Chimney last week for the first time for lunch.  I did not drive down any side streets, I guess I'll have to do that sometime.

 

I hope that we are reaching a tipping point in this city, but many more demolitions have to occur before that happens.  I was talking to a lady at work who lives on E 115 about how I rarely cross E55 and she told me her street was getting better.  I know someone else who moved over to E 65 about 4 years ago and likes it.

 

I'm really not in touch with how many reverse migrations there are in town.  There are opportunities to live cheap if you can put up with other issues, it just takes courage and fortitude.

A must-read article. This article got me to want to move to Slavic Village! And the story of Mike Malak, the retired city water department worker, will surely put a tear in your eye....

 

http://mobile.nationaljournal.com/features/restoration-calls/how-a-community-demolished-its-way-out-of-a-crisis-20121210?page=1

 

He knew that destroying his mom’s house was “the good Christian thing to do.” But it was still hard. The first strike by the large backhoe smashed through the back window where his mother used to sit in her living room. “When he pulled that wall down, I just wanted to yell out, ‘No. Stop. Stop. I’ll fix the house’,” he said. “It was very emotional.” So emotional that the next day he drove to Holy Cross Cemetery where his parents are buried to explain what he had done. But to his surprise, he was calm. He joked that his trips to the cemetery normally feature him “apologizing” to his parents for various things. But this time, he said, “It was different. It’s the first time I went out there and I wasn’t apologizing to Mom. I knew this was the right thing to do.”

 

Amazingly sad.

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City Planning Commission

Agenda for November 16, 2012

 

EAST DESIGN REVIEW

 

EAST2012-036 – Dollar General New Construction

Project Address: 6045-6115 Broadway Avenue

Project Representatives: Mark Jablonski, CenterMark Development

Mark Smith, Design Management Architects

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2012/11162012/index.php

 

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The following appears to be the same development as in the above......

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2012/crr12-31-2012.pdf

 

Board of Zoning Appeals

 

December 31, 2012

 

9:30 Ward 12

Calendar No. 12-217: 6107 Broadway Avenue Anthony Brancatelli

23 Notices

 

Slavic Village Development, owner, and Centermark Development appeal to construct a

new discount store proposed to be on consolidated parcels located in zoning for C2 General

Retail and B1 Two Family Districts, a retail store and accessory uses not permitted

in a Two-Family District under the limitations of Section 337.03; and a parking requirement

for 67 spaces in accordance with Section 349.04(f) and by the provisions in Section

325.03 such spaces shall equal 180 square feet; and screening of off-street parking spaces,

located on a lot adjacent to a residence district or that adjoins a building containing

dwelling units, shall be screened by an opaque wall, or a uniformly painted fence of fireresistant

material, or a strip of land at least 4 feet wide and densely planted with shrubs

that form a dense screen year-round, pursuant to Section 349.08. By the stipulations

under Sections 352.08 through 352.11, a dumpster enclosure and parking of motor vehicles

in the required 10 feet wide transition strip are not permitted; a minimum 6 feet

wide landscaping strip providing 50 percent year-round opacity is required along the

street frontages and a minimum 10 feet wide transition/landscaping strip providing 75

percent year-round opacity is required along the rear property line according to the

Cleveland Codified Ordinances. (Filed 12-7-12)

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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FCE partnership!

 

slavic village recovery aims to remake section of city with no public subsidy

Thursday, July 25, 2013

 

Slavic Village Recovery, an ambitious effort to provide an extreme neighborhood makeover to a 530-acre chunk of the east side, has begun the process of purchasing 40 homes that will be rehabbed.

 

Two of these properties already have been put on the market with new mechanicals and other finishes for a mere $60,000, says Marie Kittredge, Executive Director of Slavic Village Development, a partner in the project along with Forest City Enterprises and Safeguard Properties.

 

"The model is: If my kids are 20-somethings buying their first house, what would that first house look like and what would be attractive to them?" explains Kittredge. "We have to build demand by telling the story. We believe our demographic is people who are already familiar with the neighborhood and ready to buy."

 

Slavic Village Recovery's innovative model focuses on renovating a majority of the vacant homes on a multi-block area around Mound Avenue and E. 54th Street, where 20- to 30-percent vacancy rates prevail. The homes are acquired from lenders and rehabbed using a model that includes all major items but does not include reconfiguring floor plans, adding bedrooms or other expensive options.

 

http://www.freshwatercleveland.com/devnews/slavicvillagerecovery072513.aspx

^Guess FCE can now say they're doing something for their hometown.

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Drove through Broadway for first time in a year or 2: The dollar tree store is fully built, neon sign is up, parking lot is paved but the landscaping needs to be done. Looks like it should open relatively soon.

 

 

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Slavic Village, devastated by the national housing crisis, is battling back

By Robert L. Smith, The Plain Dealer

on September 25, 2013 at 6:00 AM, updated September 25, 2013 at 2:18 PM

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- On a warm fall afternoon just before dinner, Cecelia Smith mounted a riding mower, steered it into the empty lot beside her tidy yellow house in the city's Slavic Village neighborhood, and roared into her weekly chore.

 

She carved long, shaggy rows from a field she does not own but cannot ignore. If the grass soars too high, field mice and garter snakes find their way into her basement.

 

Beating back the wilderness is part of life now on her small block in the thick of the city, where vacant lots outnumber occupied homes.

 

READ MORE AT:

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2013/09/slavic_village_devastated_by_t.html

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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