Posted February 25, 201114 yr MSA GDP numbers for 2009 were released today: The decline in durable-goods manufacturing hit the metropolitan areas of the Great Lakes region particularly hard. Kokomo, IN; Elkhart-Goshen, IN; Columbus, IN; and Holland-Grand Haven, MI had double-digit declines in real GDP growth primarily due to declines in durable-goods manufacturing. In the three Indiana metropolitan areas, durable-goods manufacturing subtracted more than ten percentage points from real GDP growth. The continued decline in construction over the past few years adversely affected metropolitan areas in the Rocky Mountain, Southwest, Southeast, and Far West regions the most. Declines in construction continued in 2009 in places like Lake Havasu-Kingman, AZ; St. George, UT; Prescott, AZ; Naples-Marco Island, FL; and Cape Coral-Fort Myers, FL. In Las Vegas-Paradise, NV construction turned sharply downward in 2009. In all of these metropolitan areas, construction subtracted more than two percentage points from real GDP growth in 2009. The effects of the decline in professional and business services was more widespread. In St. Louis, MO-IL; Detroit-Warren-Livonia, MI; and Boulder, CO professional and business services subtracted more than two percentage points from real GDP growth in 2009. All of these metropolitan areas declined by more than the national average. In contrast to most industries, natural resources and mining was a strong positive contributor to growth in 2009. Significant growth in mining resulted from sharp declines in prices for petroleum, natural gas, and other mining products. Growth accelerated in 70 metropolitan areas, most notably in areas where natural resources and mining industries are concentrated such as Casper, WY and Oklahoma City, OK. Casper, WY had the fastest real GDP growth (22.4 percent) of any metropolitan area in 2009 due largely to growth in the mining sector. The natural resources and mining industry contributed more than ten percentage points to growth in several areas such as Casper, WY; Oklahoma City, OK; and Shreveport-Bossier City, LA. In addition to natural resources and mining, several metropolitan areas with large concentrations in nondurable-goods manufacturing—Pascagoula, MS; Vallejo-Fairfield, CA; and Lake Charles, LA—grew significantly in 2009. http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/regional/gdp_metro/gdp_metro_newsrelease.htm The list: New York-Northern New Jersey-Long Island 1,210,387 Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA 730,941 Chicago-Joliet-Naperville, IL-IN-WI 508,712 Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV 407,463 Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown, TX 363,201 Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX 356,615 San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA 335,563 Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD 335,112 Boston-Cambridge-Quincy, MA-NH 298,256 Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta, GA 264,700 Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL 252,647 Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA 228,797 Phoenix-Mesa-Glendale, AZ 190,725 Minneapolis-St. Paul-Bloomington, MN-WI 189,801 Detroit-Warren-Livonia, MI 185,800 San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, CA 171,471 Denver-Aurora-Broomfield, CO 152,868 San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA 147,370 Baltimore-Towson, MD 138,420 St. Louis, MO-IL 124,558 Portland-Vancouver-Hillsboro, OR-WA 117,006 Pittsburgh, PA 111,597 Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, FL 111,377 Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA 110,565 Charlotte-Gastonia-Rock Hill, NC-SC 110,427 Kansas City, MO-KS 103,137 Cleveland-Elyria-Mentor, OH 103,020 Orlando-Kissimmee-Sanford, FL 100,711 Indianapolis-Carmel, IN 98,799 Cincinnati-Middletown, OH-KY-IN 98,260 Sacramento-Arden-Arcade-Roseville, CA 94,391 Las Vegas-Paradise, NV 91,742 Columbus, OH 91,308 Milwaukee-Waukesha-West Allis, WI 82,692 Virginia Beach-Norfolk-Newport News, VA-NC 79,600 Hartford-West Hartford-East Hartford, CT 79,424 Bridgeport-Stamford-Norwalk, CT 78,805 Austin-Round Rock-San Marcos, TX 78,426 San Antonio-New Braunfels, TX 77,712 Nashville-Davidson-Murfreesboro-Franklin, TN 75,764 New Orleans-Metairie-Kenner, LA 68,008 Salt Lake City, UT 65,221 Providence-New Bedford-Fall River, RI-MA 64,341 Memphis, TN-MS-AR 62,735 Richmond, VA 61,447 Oklahoma City, OK 61,099 Jacksonville, FL 58,303 Louisville-Jefferson County, KY-IN 55,850 Birmingham-Hoover, AL 53,276 Raleigh-Cary, NC 52,556 Honolulu, HI 50,071 Tulsa, OK 47,066 Omaha-Council Bluffs, NE-IA 45,733 Rochester, NY 43,517 Buffalo-Niagara Falls, NY 43,157 Baton Rouge, LA 39,686 Albany-Schenectady-Troy, NY 39,597 New Haven-Milford, CT 38,834 Des Moines-West Des Moines, IA 37,719 Albuquerque, NM 35,498 Oxnard-Thousand Oaks-Ventura, CA 34,962 Madison, WI 34,786 Durham-Chapel Hill, NC 34,285 Dayton, OH 32,897 Little Rock-North Little Rock-Conway, AR 32,884 Tucson, AZ 32,697 Greensboro-High Point, NC 31,829 Grand Rapids-Wyoming, MI 31,657 Columbia, SC 31,101 Bakersfield-Delano, CA 29,053 Fresno, CA 29,017 Allentown-Bethlehem-Easton, PA-NJ 28,597 Knoxville, TN 28,424 Harrisburg-Carlisle, PA 28,064 Worcester, MA 28,043 Wichita, KS 26,967 Akron, OH 26,944 Charleston-North Charleston-Summerville, SC 26,691 Syracuse, NY 26,352 El Paso, TX 26,333 Trenton-Ewing, NJ 25,409 Toledo, OH 25,397 Anchorage, AK 25,368 Colorado Springs, CO 25,270 Portland-South Portland-Biddeford, ME 25,201 Boise City-Nampa, ID 24,771 Greenville-Mauldin-Easley, SC 24,762 Jackson, MS 23,689 North Port-Bradenton-Sarasota, FL 23,067 Springfield, MA 22,514 Lexington-Fayette, KY 22,114 Poughkeepsie-Newburgh-Middletown, NY 21,499 Manchester-Nashua, NH 20,865 Winston-Salem, NC 20,785 Chattanooga, TN-GA 20,285 Cape Coral-Fort Myers, FL 19,910 Huntsville, AL 19,882 Stockton, CA 19,698 Santa Rosa-Petaluma, CA 19,603 Reno-Sparks, NV 19,546 "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 26, 201114 yr It's funny to me that they count Tampa-St. Pete as one metropolitan area, but do not combine Cleveland and Akron. Tampa and St. Pete are separated by a large body of water (Tampa Bay) and the commute time is probably comparable between the two sets of cities.
February 26, 201114 yr Adding SF-Oakland and San Jose puts the Bay Area at about the same size as Chicago. I'm surprised how low Detroit is, and that Indy is higher than Cincinnati.
February 26, 201114 yr Why doesn't Summit and Portage counties count in Cleveland's MSA? Here is a map from the 2000 census showing Ohios different MSA's http://ohiolmi.com/maps/MapofMSAs2000.htm
February 27, 201114 yr The Cleveland MSA is wacky to say the least. For example, I live in Wadsworth, which is 35 miles south of Cleveland and 10 miles west (actually slightly southwest) of Akron. It's clearly an Akron suburb, if you look at where people work and where they are from. I'm from Cleveland and I feel like an outsider. But since it's in Medina County, technically, I live in the Cleveland MSA. Then you have Twinsburg, while it's about 20 miles from both Cleveland and Akron, I'd estimate that 75-plus percent of the population considers themselves Clevelanders. It's where they work, where they were raised. But Twinsburg is considered in the Akron MSA since it's Summit County. And then what about Stark County? It's not counted in either, even though the northern part of Stark is more Akron-oriented than it is Canton. There are people (I know a couple) who live by the Akron-Canton Airport on the Stark side who never go into Canton, but are in Akron every day. Realistically, there should be one MSA for Cleveland which encompasses Cuyahoga, Lorain, Medina, Wayne (which is not in any MSA), Summit, Stark, Portage, Geauga and Lake counties. That would have it around 3.3 million people. That's not even counting the gray areas in the Youngstown-Warren MSA.
February 27, 201114 yr Interesting that Cincinnati-Dayton is almost identical to Cleveland-Akron. Remember, though, that Canton isn't a part of either Cleveland or Akron. That would add another 400,000 or so to Cleveland-Akron. That would push "Cleveland" into Minneapolis/Seattle neighborhood.
February 27, 201114 yr Man, Toledo has plummeted on this list over the years (very similar to Detroit's plummet). In 1980, it ranked much higher. To put it in perspective, Des Moines MSA with 100,000 fewer people than Toledo MSA managed to produce nearly 50% more GMP. That's gut-wrenching. Toledo used to rank much higher than Des Moines (I believe as recently as the 1990's, so Toledo went down like the Edmund Fitzgerald).
February 27, 201114 yr It's funny to me that they count Tampa-St. Pete as one metropolitan area, but do not combine Cleveland and Akron. Tampa and St. Pete are separated by a large body of water (Tampa Bay) and the commute time is probably comparable between the two sets of cities. MSAs, I believe, are comprised of areas that have significant interaction and commutes. There are specific standards to be counted as one MSA, and Cleveland/Akron have not met those standards, so they remain separate.
February 27, 201114 yr Brookings has been tracking this stuff quarter by quarter since the jobs depression/Wall Street power grab happened: http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/Files/Programs/Metro/metro_monitor/2010_09_metro_monitor/0915_metro_monitor.pdf After looking at these numbers, I don't know if I can buy the Youngstown economic hotbed arguments (though it is showing early signs of it). Most of Ohio outside Victoria's Secret land is still in the weeds. Percent change in real GMP, metro peak to 2010Q2 Top 15 GMP Growers 1 Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV 6.9% 2 Austin-Round Rock, TX 6.7% 3 Virginia Beach-Norfolk-Newport News, VA-NC 6.0% 4 Ogden-Clearfield, UT 5.7% 5 Baltimore-Towson, MD 5.6% 6 San Antonio, TX 4.9% 7 Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA 4.8% 8 Honolulu, HI 4.8% 9 McAllen-Edinburg-Mission, TX 3.9% 10 Raleigh-Cary, NC 3.7% 11 El Paso, TX 3.5% 12 Albuquerque, NM 3.3% 13 Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX 2.9% 14 Kansas City, MO-KS 2.6% 15 Little Rock-North Little Rock-Conway, AR 2.6% Bottom 15 GMP Growers 86 Riverside-San Bernardino-Ontario, CA -3.2% 87 Cleveland-Elyria-Mentor, OH -3.2% 88 Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, FL -3.3% 89 Greensboro-High Point, NC -3.4% 90 North Port-Bradenton-Sarasota, FL -3.4% 91 Dayton, OH -3.5% 92 Jacksonville, FL -3.8% 93 Scranton--Wilkes-Barre, PA -3.8% 94 Youngstown-Warren-Boardman, OH-PA -3.9% 95 Las Vegas-Paradise, NV -4.2% 96 Portland-Vancouver-Beaverton, OR-WA -4.5% 97 Palm Bay-Melbourne-Titusville, FL -5.0% 98 Toledo, OH -5.0% 99 Detroit-Warren-Livonia, MI -12.3% 100 Cape Coral-Fort Myers, FL -14.8% While it's obvious the recession did serious damage to the already weak core of the Rust Belt, it's also obvious Florida got hit pretty hard. Ditto with Vegas, LA, and Portland. In terms of jobs, Cleveland is really taking off based on 2010 labor force numbers, so it won't be on this list much longer.
February 28, 201114 yr It's funny to me that they count Tampa-St. Pete as one metropolitan area, but do not combine Cleveland and Akron. Tampa and St. Pete are separated by a large body of water (Tampa Bay) and the commute time is probably comparable between the two sets of cities. MSAs, I believe, are comprised of areas that have significant interaction and commutes. There are specific standards to be counted as one MSA, and Cleveland/Akron have not met those standards, so they remain separate. I don't know how those standards are not met, especially in the last 10 years. Some of "Cleveland's" strongest growth has been in the Akron MSA (Twinsburg, Macedonia, Richfield, Aurora, Streetsboro, Hudson, etc.), while some of "Akron's" strongest growth has been in the Cleveland MSA (Wadsworth, Medina). And Akron/Canton not being a combined MSA is even more mind boggling. The cities are 20 miles apart and a large percent of the growth of both have been in "UCLA" (Upper Canton, Lower Akron ... Green, Jackson Township, Uniontown, Canal Fulton, North Canton). I never realized how connected Canton and Cleveland were until driving back from down south on I-77 at night. Once you get about five miles south of Canton it is urban for about 15 miles (up to the Akron-Canton Airport). Then there is a one-mile stretch between the Airport and Massillon Road that is dark and looks rural (but you can see the lights ahead where it becomes urban again). Once you hit Massillon Road, it is again urban for another 15 or so miles to Ghent Road in Bath. From there, it is semi-urban for the next 10 or so miles until you hit Independence and get into Cleveland. That's about a 70-mile stretch of highway where 60 of it is noticeably urban. The stretch between south Canton and northwest Akron is even more noticable, about 29 of that 30 mile stretch is urban. It's also not too surprising that the stretch on 1-77 between Ghent and Independence is is less urban considering Cleveland's southern growth has been more down the 71, 271 and Route 8 corridors (some of which is still the Akron MSA anyway).
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