So which grocer is going in next to Target? Why would Giant Eagle do it if they're at W. 110 and Lorain. That one will have to close down. Will it be a Marc's? The family rest. will probably be Ihop.

My bet is on Rego's, which is recently opened at the former Tops at Kamm's Plaza and reportedly is expanding to the ex-Tops on Columbia Road in Westlake.

From cleveland.com - ugh :roll:

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2007/07/giant_eagle_plans_store_at_i90.html

 

Giant Eagle plans store at I-90 and W. 117th

Posted by Zachary Lewis July 31, 2007 15:28PM

Categories: Breaking News

Giant Eagle wants to open a new supermarket and GetGo fuel station on Cleveland's west side.

 

The property under consideration is near Interstate 90 and West 117th Street, adjacent to a new Target store.

 

"We continuously evaluate opportunities for growth," Giant Eagle spokesman Dan Donovan said in a written statement today. "There are tentative plans to build .¤.¤. at this site, and we continue to work with all relevant parties toward approval of such plans."

 

Robert Brown, director of the Cleveland City Planning Commission, said the store would be about 87,000 square feet. It was unclear Tuesday how the store could affect the two nearby Giant Eagle supermarkets, on Detroit Road in Lakewood and Clifton Boulevard in Cleveland.

 

Plans for the new store will be presented to the Planning Commission at a meeting Friday morning.

 

Giant Eagle is based in Pittsburgh.

 

 

This goes before Design Review today and Planning Commission tomorrow.

After over two years, there's finally significant cleanup activity going on at the old Midland Steel site (Berea between W. 110th and W. 106th).  I saw about 11 18-wheel dump trucks on the site Tuesday.

Those old factories around Berea Road on the west side could make for a very cool neighborhood!  There's a nice density already and cleaning up the neighborhood could potentially make this the new "hot" neighborhood-esp. with its proximity to the rapid.  The neighborhood reminds me of parts of southside Chicago/stockyards.  It would be nice to see this area take off!

The city wants to keep the area industrial, except for the area immediately surrounding (by that I mean within about 750 feet) the Rapid station. Cudell proposed a mix of residential and offices (a few offices are already there) for the area around the Rapid station.

The city wants to keep the area industrial, except for the area immediately surrounding (by that I mean within about 750 feet) the Rapid station. Cudell proposed a mix of residential and offices (a few offices are already there) for the area around the Rapid station.

 

As I've mentioned, it's taken over two years (after demolition) to see any action on the Midland site.  The city needs to move quicker than that, which it probably can't do without revising CERCLA.

 

The best approach, of course, is to work closely with the existing businesses.

"How did you people conquer half the known world when your citizens can't even cross a bloody street without a car?" - written by a London resident to Americans

 

As a World War II history buff, I have to comment on this.  During World War II, the "mechanization" of the US Army gave them a huge advantage over the Germans.  The familiarity of the common GI with motor vehicles probably led to this advantage, but it also made it much more exploitable.  Even the infantry rarely had to walk much.  Our "best" field general, Patton, was aggressive by nature and able to exploit this mobility.  Montgomery was cautious by nature and gets a bum rap for this....but his forces were far less mobile than the Americans.

 

There's little doubt that this led to the post-war American love affair with the automobile.  There's less doubt that  it shortened the war and saved a lot of Allied lives.  Including British lives.

West Side Sun:

 

West 117th Giant Eagle gets green light

by Joe Noga

Wednesday August 29, 2007, 3:01 PM

 

 

CLEVELAND -- City officials approved plans last week for an 87,000-square foot Giant Eagle supermarket to be built on an outlot at West 117th and Interstate 90 adjacent to the Target store that opened there last month.

 

The $20 million project will include a GetGo fuel station and a WetGo car wash and will bring more than 240 new jobs to the area.

 

Cleveland Ward 19 Councilwoman Dona Brady said Giant Eagle officials hope to break ground on the project in November, with construction scheduled for completion by June 2008.

 

"We're very excited to have Giant Eagle at this location," Brady said.

West Side Sun:

 

West 117th Giant Eagle gets green light

by Joe Noga

Wednesday August 29, 2007, 3:01 PM

 

 

CLEVELAND -- City officials approved plans last week for an 87,000-square foot Giant Eagle supermarket to be built on an outlot at West 117th and Interstate 90 adjacent to the Target store that opened there last month.

 

The $20 million project will include a GetGo fuel station and a WetGo car wash and will bring more than 240 new jobs to the area.

 

Cleveland Ward 19 Councilwoman Dona Brady said Giant Eagle officials hope to break ground on the project in November, with construction scheduled for completion by June 2008.

 

"We're very excited to have Giant Eagle at this location," Brady said.

So, just wondering, any word on the fate of the Giant Eagle store on Clifton?

"How did you people conquer half the known world when your citizens can't even cross a bloody street without a car?" - written by a London resident to Americans

 

As a World War II history buff, I have to comment on this.  During World War II, the "mechanization" of the US Army gave them a huge advantage over the Germans.  The familiarity of the common GI with motor vehicles probably led to this advantage, but it also made it much more exploitable.  Even the infantry rarely had to walk much.  Our "best" field general, Patton, was aggressive by nature and able to exploit this mobility.  Montgomery was cautious by nature and gets a bum rap for this....but his forces were far less mobile than the Americans.

 

There's little doubt that this led to the post-war American love affair with the automobile.  There's less doubt that  it shortened the war and saved a lot of Allied lives.  Including British lives.

 

I think the following had more to do with the Allied victory in Europe (in no particular order):

 

> Hitler's choice to start a major war before it had fulfilled its plans for expanding its navy and Luftwaffe;

> Hitler's choice to fight a two-front war against powerful adversaries;

> Germany's failure to invade Britain, thereby preserving the world's largest aircraft carrier within bomber range of Germany;

> America's development of four-engine bombers (B-17 and B-24) as a key ingredient of a strategic air bombardment campaign which Germany failed to match;

> America's and Russia's industries and natural resources (principally their oil resources) couldn't be reached by German bombers and its limited naval power (see first bulleted item);

> America's and Russia's ability to overwhelm German forces and equipment in numbers, even though many German armaments were superior (American forces often marveled at the firing range and durability of the Panzer tank, for which our Sherman tanks were no match in a one-on-one fight).

 

If you want to debate this further, let's do this off-forum or in another thread.

I'm not going to deny that your reasons were important....likely moreso than mine.  But the aforementioned comment by the Briton is rather ironic in view of the fact that the American affinity for motorized transportation both helped the British co-win a war and may have made our troops more effective than theirs.

I'm not going to deny that your reasons were important....likely moreso than mine.  But the aforementioned comment by the Briton is rather ironic in view of the fact that the American affinity for motorized transportation both helped the British co-win a war and may have made our troops more effective than theirs.

So,,,,,, about that Giant Eagle????

Not only are there (at least) two Giant Eagles in the area, they've both moved into old Tops' stores during the last year.

Not only are there (at least) two Giant Eagles in the area, they've both moved into old Tops' stores during the last year.

  -- Got that.  Just asking about any update to the fate of the one on Clifton, which does not occupy a former Tops.

 

Thanks!

I read in a PD article a few weeks back that the Clifton Giant Eagle's fate was unknown. I guess they'll probably wait to see if their new store tanks the Clifton local. Personally, I think the Clifton location is a neighborhood grocer not a place you'd drive from the other side of town to get to, so I would think it'd be just fine. Of course, this is real life, so I'm sure they'll make a decision that ruins a neighborhood.

On a side note, there's also the Sapell's Bi Rite on 117th street. Does anyone on here shop there?

Only for its liquor selection

^Same here. :drunk:

I will sometimes shop there if Giant Eagle ticks me off, or I can't find what I'm looking for there.

How is Sapell's, really?

Pretty nasty.

 

edit: except for the liquor, as previously noted.

Just got my Cleveland City Council committee agenda today. Guess what? Marous is seeking to buy two properties -- one at West 117th Street and Lake (11623 Lake Ave. -- the abandoned church) and another at 1227 West 116th Street. Council is considering legislation that will allow the Directors of Community Development and Parks, Recreation and Properties to enter into a purchase agreement with Marous Development LLC for purposes of redevelopment.

 

This is great news and, to me, the second parcel tells me Marous has something big in mind. The West 116th parcel is on the EAST side of West 116th, on the north side of a hair and nails salon. It's across West 116th from where the church, Giant Eagle and City Place Cafe are located. All three of those uses are on three separate properties owned by a single company -- Samco Properties Ltd. Something tells me these properties are also in play -- just a hunch.

 

I find it interesting that this legislation has come before council now that Giant Eagle has announced it will build a grocery store at West 117th and I-90.

Brilliant job, KJP.

Gotta love good detective work.

I don't know about brilliance/detective work... But when speculation proves correct, then it's brilliant. So hold off on any accolades until then. :)

So the West 116th parcel *doesn't* include the salon itself, just the empty lot north/adjacent? Oh god, please leave the salon* alone... for the love of all that's holy!!!  :cry:

 

(*I'd love to see those parcels developed, but we're talking about my hair here).

MayDay, you're such a Not In My HairDo.

 

 

In all seriousness, the salon owner bought that house when it was condemned in the 80s (70s?). Let's just say that the city (back then) was about as unhelpful as possible to them but they still rehabbed it into a working business. I applaud the fact they turned an eyesore into something good for the area, hopefully they can be incorporated into any new plans.

 

And honey, when you find a stylist who can properly clip your cowlicked-to-death (I have four of the pesky b@stards) hair into submission for $20 a pop, you'll do just about anything to make sure they stay put! :-D

So the West 116th parcel *doesn't* include the salon itself, just the empty lot north/adjacent? Oh god, please leave the salon* alone... for the love of all that's holy!!!  :cry:

 

Correct. At least not yet!

Councilman Westbrook says not to read too much into the legislation that's up for consideration -- yet. It's actually a renewal of a one-year-old right to purchase the church property by Marous. But, he said the construction of Giant Eagle at I-90 is an opportunity for redeveloping the block bounded by Clifton, West 116th, West 117th and Lake.

Lakewood Sun Post:

 

Church saved? Store move could help landmark

Thursday, September 13, 2007

By Ken Prendergast

Lakewood Sun Post

 

Preservation and redevelopment of the vacant Fifth Church of Christ Scientist building at West 117th Street and Lake Avenue may get a boost from two ongoing activities.

 

One is the pending renewal of a purchase agreement. The other is the pending relocation of a Giant Eagle grocery store.

 

Cleveland City Council members said they expect to renew a one-year-old purchase agreement with Marous Development Limited Liability Corp. For the agreement to go into effect, Marous would have to receive city approval for a development plan for the land. The city would then sell two properties to Marous. No development plan has been submitted by Marous to the city.

 

The two properties include the church property and a small parcel north of a hair and nails salon on the east side of West 116th Street. Both parcels were bought by the Rego Family a decade ago for expanding parking for the grocery store fronting Clifton Boulevard. Giant Eagle later took over the grocery store.

 

Neighbors banded together stop the church's demolition and, in 2001, Giant Eagle gave the two properties as a package to the city. Soon thereafter, City Council declared the church a city landmark. Marous has secured the church's roof and maintained the property.

 

"People shouldn't read too much into the sale," said Ward 18 Councilman Jay Westbrook. "It's only a renewal of an agreement."

 

However, he said the recent announcement that Giant Eagle will build a new supermarket next to the Target store at West 117th and Interstate 90 is an opportunity for redeveloping the church. It is likely the Giant Eagle on Clifton will be closed when the new one at Interstate 90 opens, Westbrook said.

 

"The church is too confined to be developed by itself," he explained. "The move (of Giant Eagle) is welcome news. It gives us the flexibility to redevelop the entire block."

 

In 2005, six developers responded the city's request for proposals for redeveloping the church. Marous' plan for putting a bookstore and cafe in the church was the winning proposal. The plan didn't advance because more land was needed.

 

The land on which Giant Eagle, City Place Restaurant & Deli and the parking lots north of them is owned by Samco Properties Ltd. In turn, Samco is owned by Carnegie Companies, a real estate holding and management firm.

 

"We've urged Marous to work with Carnegie on a joint development," Westbrook said. "Our primary goal is the preservation and redevelopment of the church."

I jogged past the "Brothers Lounge" club at 116 and Detroit today and saw some guys working inside. I stopped to take a peek and saw the bar area was really coming together. I t looks like this place might be seeing some business this year. :clap:

Hope so. They've been working on/off for an awful long time!

In all seriousness, the salon owner bought that house when it was condemned in the 80s (70s?). Let's just say that the city (back then) was about as unhelpful as possible to them but they still rehabbed it into a working business. I applaud the fact they turned an eyesore into something good for the area, hopefully they can be incorporated into any new plans.

 

And honey, when you find a stylist who can properly clip your cowlicked-to-death (I have four of the pesky b@stards) hair into submission for $20 a pop, you'll do just about anything to make sure they stay put! :-D

 

MayDay -- exact address if you will please?!  I go to a place in Mentor but as you may know from my other frequent posts I will soon be a West Sider and like you I have hair that is straight (unlike me) EXCEPT for the ridiculous TWO cow licks (you are an over achiever with 4).  So, this fellow "hair don't" would like the name and address of the magical sheers.  Thank you!

^^ I would like that info too...I have the same hair problem!

Lakewood Sun Post:

 

(slightly off-topic - but related)

 

West 117th to close at tracks Nov. 5-11

Posted by ravozar November 01, 2007 11:24AM

Categories: Breaking News

 

Norfolk Southern Corp. will make repairs to the railroad crossing at West 117th Street Nov. 5-11. During that time, West 117th will be closed to through traffic between Detroit Avenue and Clifton Boulevard, according to a written statement from Lakewood's office of community relations.

 

Detours may be made via parallel streets. Access to businesses in the affected stretch of West 117th will be maintained, but only by approaching them from an opposite direction. Sapell's Bi-Rite, Air Rite Service & Supply and Diana's Restaurant & Deli have access via Hird Avenue.

Ward 19 News:

 

Councilwoman Dona Brady has been working closely for more than a year with Giant Eagle officials planning for their arrival and finally..…Giant Eagle is ready to go! The 87,000-square foot mega-supermarket will be built next to TARGET on W. 117th Street north of I-90. The $20 million project will also include a GetGo gas station and a state-of-the-art WetGo no-touch car wash. The project is expected to create more than 200 new jobs.

 

Councilwoman Brady and Giant Eagle officials hope to break ground by the end of the year and open by next summer. “We are looking forward to opening a new store in west Cleveland to bring more high quality food offerings, convenience-oriented departments and everyday values to our customers,” said Rob Borella, Giant Eagle senior director of marketing and corporate communications.

 

“This is a great addition to our neighborhood and significantly increases the availability of products and services for the residents in our community,” said Brady. She also noted that there would be one more surprise—the addition of a family restaurant that has not yet been announced. Councilwoman Brady believes that this type of investment in our neighborhood will help reinvigorate the Lorain Avenue commercial district.

 

The Lorain Avenue Master Plan is ready to be presented to the community and the process has begun for the Lorain Avenue Historic District designation. The plan calls for the expansion of the neighborhood’s diverse ethnic restaurant district, increased community-oriented businesses, and the restoration of the Historic Variety Theatre.

Vomit in my mouth.

In your mouth? That's my neighborhood grocery store, which will no longer be walking distance from me, and no longer accessible by one-seat-ride transit for Lakewood elderly residents. Now they and I will be within walking/transit distance of only an Aldi's and Bi-Rite. Yech.

So I take it this will be replacing an existing Giant Eagle at Westtown?  I am confused how this is "good news" for Ward 19?  It is taking one store and moving it to a new location within the same ward.  Sure, it might be larger, but the jobs "created" numbers are highly exagerated.

Is the W.117th project involved in this?

The GE at Westown used to be a Topps. So it does not have all of the usual things in it one finds at a typical GE. (Dry Cleaning, Ready-to-eat foods, etc.) So if it is larger then the current location and adds a gas station and car wash, this might add an additional 50 people.

 

Maybe the 200 includes the new restaurant.

 

 

Is the W.117th project involved in this?

 

No.

 

Earlier in the year I asked the mods to merge all of the West 117th Street threads. They did, but kept this title.

Whatever.

If GE closes on Clifton, seems like a good location for Dave's no?

In your mouth? That's my neighborhood grocery store, which will no longer be walking distance from me, and no longer accessible by one-seat-ride transit for Lakewood elderly residents. Now they and I will be within walking/transit distance of only an Aldi's and Bi-Rite. Yech.

 

And Sapelli's. Double Yech.

*Ahem* - Sapell's, and they're the Bi-Rite in question.

I thought I read last year that whomever restored the old church would require more parking in that location.

 

Does that mean possible domolition of the Giant Eagle building?

*Ahem* - Sapell's, and they're the Bi-Rite in question.

 

WELL... I stand corrected! Whatever its name is, that place sucks.

I thought I read last year that whomever restored the old church would require more parking in that location.

 

Does that mean possible domolition of the Giant Eagle building?

 

Yes, and possible replacement with structured parking and new storefronts, or even residential above new storefronts.

 

BTW, has anyone noticed that City Place Cafe (the old Gold Coast Cafe) has apparently closed. For the past several days in a row, the place has been dark.

Hello everyone,

 

I just moved up here from Columbus, living right near the corner of W 117th and Lake ave. My wife and I are renting an apartment here, and like the area a lot so far. I got the impression it was an up-and-coming area when I checked it out before moving up here.

Its a shame about that church on the corner of Lake and W 117th, it is truly a beautiful building. Any news other than what has been mentioned in these threads about it?

Also, just to weigh in, City Place has been dark for the past three or four days, I have noticed. Too bad, they had good food.

bewwolv15, welcome to my neighborhood and welcome to Cleveland!

 

City Place hasn't been very busy ever since it opened, and I suspect it took a hit when El Jalapeno opened down the street.

 

Nothing will probably happen with the church until the Giant Eagle relocates to West 117th and I-90, which should occur sometime next year (summer?). The strip facing Clifton is slated to be demolished, with the entire block developed around the church. Structured parking has been discussed but I'm aware of no site plans.

 

If you'd like to get together sometime, join the UrbanOhio meet between Christmas and New Years, or we can just together for coffee at Starbucks sometime.

 

Actually, we have a bunch of UrbanOhioans in this neighborhood. We should have a neighborhood get-together sometime!