August 27, 20159 yr That's the retail strip on the SOUTH side of Clifton -- across the street from the proposed Lucky's grocery store. Thank goodness! That strip, which has Clifton Diner, Twist and had Charter One bank until recently, is looking pretty ratty. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 31, 20159 yr Snapped a pic of the tired strip on the south side of Clifton during one of my neighborhood walks... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 12, 20159 yr Update on demolitions for A Place For Us housing at West 117th-Madison... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 14, 20159 yr With the housing niche being targeted by A Place for Us, there is no way that they can accomplish that overall build-out. They should have demo'd a middle piece of the storefronts to insert a gateway or walkway, and built the housing behind the commercial strip. One of the most logical reasons I can envision for the way they've done things is if soils testing revealed un-fixable levels of soil contamination. In that case, they probably don't ever plan to build in the back, and just floated that rendering to overcome calls for historic preservation.
September 14, 20159 yr If you're referring to the birdseye view rendering, that's actually from a city-led master planning process that NRP Group put on their website. The residential development is open to all seniors, so they'll have no trouble filling it. NRP's original plan was to raze the mixed use strip they own on Madison. But in community meetings about this development, the community urged NRP to leave that strip alone. What's interesting is that they don't seem to be demolishing the machine shop-type building behind the strip and instead it looks like they are partially deconstructing it. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 19, 20159 yr Three of many photos taken by Lakewood Councilwoman Nickie Antonio at today's groundbreaking ceremony for A Place For Us 55+ year old LGBT housing at the West 117th Rapid station. The first phase will be a four-story building at West 116th & Madison with a common/activities room on the ground floor... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 24, 20159 yr More info on the new Brickhaus partners development. They sponsored the cleveland Dinner Lab (https://dinnerlab.com) event last night at St Thomas Evangelical Lutheran on Lake rd, and on their social media have been mentioning something called '95 Lake', and provided a link with renderings and more: warning, adobe flash! http://issuu.com/brickhauspartners/docs/9509_lake
September 24, 20159 yr More info on the new Brickhaus partners development. They sponsored the cleveland Dinner Lab (https://dinnerlab.com) event last night at St Thomas Evangelical Lutheran on Lake rd, and on their social media have been mentioning something called '95 Lake', and provided a link with renderings and more: warning, adobe flash! http://issuu.com/brickhauspartners/docs/9509_lake At first I thought that's the project they're seeking at West 117th and Lake. But it's for the development where the other church is in the 9500 block of Lake Road -- hence the name. Correct? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 24, 20159 yr More info on the new Brickhaus partners development. They sponsored the cleveland Dinner Lab (https://dinnerlab.com) event last night at St Thomas Evangelical Lutheran on Lake rd, and on their social media have been mentioning something called '95 Lake', and provided a link with renderings and more: warning, adobe flash! http://issuu.com/brickhauspartners/docs/9509_lake At first I thought that's the project they're seeking at West 117th and Lake. But it's for the development where the other church is in the 9500 block of Lake Road -- hence the name. Correct? It is this project previously mentioned in this thread: http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,925.msg752458.html#msg752458
September 24, 20159 yr More info on the new Brickhaus partners development. They sponsored the cleveland Dinner Lab (https://dinnerlab.com) event last night at St Thomas Evangelical Lutheran on Lake rd, and on their social media have been mentioning something called '95 Lake', and provided a link with renderings and more: warning, adobe flash! http://issuu.com/brickhauspartners/docs/9509_lake At first I thought that's the project they're seeking at West 117th and Lake. But it's for the development where the other church is in the 9500 block of Lake Road -- hence the name. Correct? It is this project previously mentioned in this thread: http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,925.msg752458.html#msg752458 Got it. Thanks. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 24, 20159 yr warning, adobe flash! I made it through page 10 of the 25 page animation before it locked up the browser tab and crashed. Can't believe any self-respecting web developer (or content publishing site) still uses Flash. The number of units went down slightly. It's now 10 townhomes, ranging from $499k for units in the back to $699k for two units in the front with best lake views.
October 23, 20159 yr From the e-mailed "Cudell Snippets" written and sent by the Cudell Improvement Corp. CDC..... SHOPPES ON CLIFTON UPDATE On October 15th the Board of Trustees of Cleveland Citywide Development Corporation (Department of Economic Development) recommended approval of City of Cleveland financial assistance to Lucky's Market for the Shoppes on Clifton project. The Lucky's Market total project cost is $7,770,000 with 50 FTE jobs and a annual payroll of $1,700,000. It is anticipated that legislative authority by Cleveland City Council will be forthcoming. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 1, 20159 yr Renovations underway of commercial strip on Clifton Blvd. at West 117th: Does this equipment at Fifth Church of Christ Scientist at W. 117th & Lake suggest demolition of the church is imminent? Or is it from the commercial strip renovation across Clifton? If so, why not store it in their own parking lot along with the dumpster where renovation debris is being dumped? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 6, 20159 yr This explains the equipment I saw and photographed, appearing in my prior post.... From Cudell Snippets: DECONSTRUCTION ANALYSIS OF FORMER FIFTH CHURCH OF CHRIST, SCIENTIST NEARING CONCLUSION For those of you that have noted the lift on site at West 117th and Clifton Boulevard, the deconstruction contractor, WR Restoration, is removing balusters and roof tiles. This is to enable the conclusion of the engineering analysis. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 6, 20159 yr Engineering analysis? I suppose that's for the re-use of some materials in the future development. But sheesh. It's taking this project so long that the Federal Building may actually be done and on to it's next re-cladding by the time it starts! :-P
November 6, 20159 yr Heard a few rumors regarding this area: 1) The owner of the Diner on Clifton has bought the former PNC bank building and will be relocating there but lots of work to do for build out. The appeal is to be an owner of the building and not a tenant in a strip. 2) A barber shop is going in next to TWIST on the other side 3) TWIST will more than likely expnad into the old Diner space 4) Starbucks is moving into the end of the plaza into the old Charter One spot All rumors... but quite interesting ones. Anyone know anything else?
November 6, 20159 yr That would explain why the east end of the commercial strip (east of Twist) is being renovated first rather than the whole thing at the same time. Oh, and Starbucks relocating into the former Charter One bank makes a ton of sense. It's on the correct side of Clifton to catch the inbound morning commuter rush as drive-through customers without them having to make left turns. And that drive-through can accommodate a long line of cars. It used to be my bank a long time ago and there was always a line of a half-dozen cars or more on a Friday afternoon to use the auto-teller. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 6, 20159 yr ^^ Very interesting. That's quite a shake-up for this area - but it seems to all be good news. The Diner on Clifton, Twist, and Starbucks could all use an expansion, and that would be a very elegant solution for those problems. That would only leave the to-be-former Starbucks vacant (and if you ask me it would be no loss to tear that building down). I hope that Diner on Clifton can do something good with the former PNC Bank building. Right now, it looks pretty bad. On a side note, Twist is killing it. It's pretty much become *the* gay bar of Cleveland. Sorry, Bounce.
November 6, 20159 yr ^^ Very interesting. That's quite a shake-up for this area - but it seems to all be good news. The Diner on Clifton, Twist, and Starbucks could all use an expansion, and that would be a very elegant solution for those problems. That would only leave the to-be-former Starbucks vacant (and if you ask me it would be no loss to tear that building down). I hope that Diner on Clifton can do something good with the former PNC Bank building. Right now, it looks pretty bad. On a side note, Twist is killing it. It's pretty much become *the* gay bar of Cleveland. Sorry, Bounce. The gay bar that doesnt identify as a gay bar anymore.....
November 6, 20159 yr ^ Idk what that means, but it's definitely a gay bar. The owner John who was gay died last year, but the family took it over as a not necessarily gay, but inclusive bar. Here is the article where they are stating "It's not a gay bar, it's a social club that is gay-friendly". Sorry to confuse you so. http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2014/08/twist_on_clevelands_west_side.html
November 6, 20159 yr ^ Idk what that means, but it's definitely a gay bar. The owner John who was gay died last year, but the family took it over as a not necessarily gay, but inclusive bar. Here is the article where they are stating "It's not a gay bar, it's a social club that is gay-friendly". Sorry to confuse you so. http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2014/08/twist_on_clevelands_west_side.html Honey, it's a gay bar.
November 6, 20159 yr You dont need to tell me that... Im only making fun of the supposed "rebranding" that was done.
November 18, 20159 yr Ex-Payless Shoes, then a Virginia Marti College store, sold to become urgent care center at Detroit & West 117th, Lakewood. Landscaping and interior work is underway... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 20, 20159 yr Looks like the old brick facade on Clifton at West 117th is going to be covered up, including the various decorative medallions above the storefronts... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 20, 20159 yr That's a shame. 40 years from now our Urban Ohio offspring will be celebrating the removal....
December 8, 20159 yr Lakewood-Cleveland development -part 1: Getting ready to build the new Lucky's grocery store at Clifton-West 117th? It's a little late in the season to be doing landscaping and on a lot slated for development... Lakewood-Cleveland development -part 2: Demolishing "Annette" mixed-use building on Detroit at Fry to clear the last structure on the lot. Dozens of townhouses coming to both sides of Detroit... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 9, 20159 yr Ouch. Thats a nice looking building to be tearing down. Yes, it's the kind of period mix-use commercial district building you hate to lose. I welcome the townhomes but lament the likely loss of 1st floor commercial space which provides pedestrian vitality to urban areas like this.
December 9, 20159 yr BTW, since I took this picture, posted earlier too, they've since done some work which shows they are not covering up the brick facade. Instead, they are preserving it. They eitherhacked off the ends of the overhanging beams several inches into the facade, or they slid the beams into the building. Either way, they've since installed new brick over where those beams stick out, with new brick flush with the old brick facing above. I'll have to take a new picture to visually describe it... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 9, 20159 yr Ouch. Thats a nice looking building to be tearing down. Yes, it's the kind of period mix-use commercial district building you hate to lose. I welcome the townhomes but lament the likely loss of 1st floor commercial space which provides pedestrian vitality to urban areas like this. Because there aren't a ton of other walkable first floor retail spaces right around this area? I'll take the townhomes which add more vitality than this storefront.
December 9, 20159 yr ^ It's not like the townhome project was being completely blocked by this single commercial building. They could have still built the entire project, except for one or two townhomes, and renovated the existing building for apartments above and retail below. Instead they took the lazy way out.
December 9, 20159 yr It's both, and they dovetail. Historic preservation is rarely the cheapest or most profitable path for individual developers. But there are other interests in play here. Maintaining this area's walkability and unique sense of place affects the value of every property nearby and the quality of life for every resident-- not just the developers' own tenants. I mean, Lakewood recently made Walgreens include a false second story! And it looks 9x better than a typical Walgreens.
December 9, 20159 yr Yet the city is inconsistent. It didn't make Third Federal or Aldi's build on the sidewalk within 500 feet of a rail station and bus transfer center. The decrease in density and pedestrian friendliness as you get CLOSER in Lakewood to the rail station is mind-blowing. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 10, 20159 yr Facade renovations continue at commercial strip on SE corner of Clifton/West 117th in Cleveland. Medallions damaged, unfortunately. Mixed-use building "Annette" at Detroit/Fry in Lakewood razed for Rockport townhouses. And the before-and-after of the Clifton Shoppes site. They cleared the site for the first time since the buildings here were demolished several years ago. BEFORE... AFTER... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 10, 20159 yr This area is one of the better walkable neighborhoods on the West Side and in Cleveland, generally. The fact that high-density housing is going in with the prospect for population growth is all good. Looking forward to the final product.
December 16, 20159 yr City Planning Commission Agenda for December 18, 2015 ZONING MAP AMENDMENTS Ordinance No. 1511-15(Ward 15/Councilmember Zone): Changing the Use District of parcels north of Clifton Boulevard, south of Lake Avenue between West 117th Street and West 115th Street to Townhouse and Local Retail districts, a '2' Height District and a 'K' Area District. http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2015/12182015/index.php "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 16, 20159 yr And the other townhouse development in the area.... http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2015/12182015/index.php City Planning Commission Agenda for December 18, 2015 FAR WEST DESIGN REVIEW FW2015-012 – Lake 95 – Saint Thomas New Construction: Seeking Final Approval Project Address: 9509 Lake Avenue Project Representative: Andrew Brickman, Brickhaus Partners "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 7, 20169 yr Councilman Zone sent out a newsletter confirming the starbucks is moving into the former Charter One spot
January 8, 20169 yr ^^ I really like the design of the townhouse group. Their sizes, materials, color and layout, mesh well with the neighborhood (let's hope reality will be as good as the rendering).
January 15, 20169 yr Councilman Zone sent out a newsletter confirming the starbucks is moving into the former Charter One spot Cleveland's Clifton Blvd. Starbucks relocating; could get drive-thru, more parking By Sara Dorn, cleveland.com on January 08, 2016 at 5:15 PM, updated January 09, 2016 at 5:05 AM CLEVELAND, Ohio — Starbucks is moving its Clifton Boulevard store to the former Charter One Bank site, a block west of its current location. Starbucks corporate offices confirmed the relocation Friday and said the new store is slated to open later this year. According to Cudell Improvement Inc., it will be larger and have a drive-thru. The upgrade is long overdue. The current store is situated in Cleveland on the Lakewood border, the most densely populated city in the state of Ohio. Lakewood -- which does not have a Starbucks -- has roughly 9,900 residents per square mile, a population density comparable to that of Washington. MORE: http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2016/01/clifton_boulevard_starbucks_re.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 15, 20169 yr ^^I like everything but the drive-thru. Feel bad for the people on W116th for the havoc that will cause.
January 15, 20169 yr Interesting note in the article... "The current store is situated in Cleveland on the Lakewood border, the most densely populated city in the state of Ohio. Lakewood -- which does not have a Starbucks -- has roughly 9,900 residents per square mile, a population density comparable to that of Washington." I did not know that!
January 15, 20169 yr ^^I like everything but the drive-thru. Feel bad for the people on W116th for the havoc that will cause. True, but the good thing is that a dozen cars can back up in a drive-through lane for Starbucks. That's sometimes how many were backed up on a payday/Friday afternoon when Charter One's drive-through was there. And it did so without backing up on to the street. But I can see some traffic issues, especially with the bus-only lane and the busiest bus stop anywhere on Clifton right there at West 117th. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 15, 20169 yr ^^I like everything but the drive-thru. Feel bad for the people on W116th for the havoc that will cause. True, but the good thing is that a dozen cars can back up in a drive-through lane for Starbucks. That's sometimes how many were backed up on a payday/Friday afternoon when Charter One's drive-through was there. And it did so without backing up on to the street. But I can see some traffic issues, especially with the bus-only lane and the busiest bus stop anywhere on Clifton right there at West 117th. How long do you think before a soccer mom races from the drive thru window, nonfatsoydecafthaimochalatte in hand, talking on the phone and hits a bus passenger?
January 15, 20169 yr How long do you think before a soccer mom races from the drive thru window, nonfatsoydecafthaimochalatte in hand, talking on the phone and hits a bus passenger? First day. And it will be the pedestrian's fault, as it always is, because bullies in cars rule... :roll: "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
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