January 26, 20169 yr Realestateagentman reports that construction will begin on Brickhaus townhouses at West 117th and Lake in the spring. Presumably that means imminent deconstruction of the church. No word on the grocery store. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 29, 20169 yr Councilman Zone sent out a newsletter confirming the starbucks is moving into the former Charter One spot What newsletter is that? Do you have a link? I'm following him on Facebook but he didn't post about that.
January 29, 20169 yr Welcome cjrobe! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 29, 20169 yr Councilman Zone sent out a newsletter confirming the starbucks is moving into the former Charter One spot What newsletter is that? Do you have a link? I'm following him on Facebook but he didn't post about that. Here you go: http://www.clevelandcitycouncil.org/media/documents/publication/Ward15/ward-15-zone-winter15-16-web.pdf
January 29, 20169 yr I've heard that a high-quality barber shop will be taking the space between Twist and Starbucks.
January 29, 20169 yr Councilman Zone sent out a newsletter confirming the starbucks is moving into the former Charter One spot What newsletter is that? Do you have a link? I'm following him on Facebook but he didn't post about that. Here you go: http://www.clevelandcitycouncil.org/media/documents/publication/Ward15/ward-15-zone-winter15-16-web.pdf And it's buried on the the last page. Here is the blurb from the letter: Starbucks to Open in Former Charter One Location on Clifton Boulevard Already one of their busiest locations in the city of Cleveland proper, the existing Clifton Boulevard Starbucks will be opening in a larger, totally renovated space just one block west of its current location. The spacious new Starbucks will feature a drive up window, convenient parking and bright new interior. Grand opening is planned for early June
January 30, 20169 yr Councilman Zone sent out a newsletter confirming the starbucks is moving into the former Charter One spot What newsletter is that? Do you have a link? I'm following him on Facebook but he didn't post about that. Here you go: [external link removed] Thanks for the link! How did you get the link? I don't live in his ward but live on the east side of Lakewood so I like to keep up with it. I guess people who actually live in the ward get it via snail mail.
January 30, 20169 yr I've heard that a high-quality barber shop will be taking the space between Twist and Starbucks. Eddy's Barbershop, they have a location on Coventry. http://www.eddysbarbershop.com/
January 30, 20169 yr Eddy's Barbershop, they have a location on Coventry. http://www.eddysbarbershop.com/ Hopefully they'll last longer than the last Coventry import to this stretch of Clifton (aka Big Fun). I miss that place. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 31, 20169 yr Welcome cjrobe! Missed your post. Thanks! You guys seem like a nice bunch. Hate the negativity that's too easy to find on the Internet.
January 31, 20169 yr Councilman Zone sent out a newsletter confirming the starbucks is moving into the former Charter One spot What newsletter is that? Do you have a link? I'm following him on Facebook but he didn't post about that. Here you go: [external link removed] Thanks for the link! How did you get the link? I don't live in his ward but live on the east side of Lakewood so I like to keep up with it. I guess people who actually live in the ward get it via snail mail. I found it on the Cle City Council website: http://www.clevelandcitycouncil.org/ward-15.aspx#
February 2, 20169 yr Councilman Zone sent out a newsletter confirming the starbucks is moving into the former Charter One spot What newsletter is that? Do you have a link? I'm following him on Facebook but he didn't post about that. Here you go: [external link removed] Thanks for the link! How did you get the link? I don't live in his ward but live on the east side of Lakewood so I like to keep up with it. I guess people who actually live in the ward get it via snail mail. Yep, got my first issue in the mail a couple weeks ago.
February 2, 20169 yr http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2016/02052016/index.php City Planning Commission Agenda for February 5, 2016 Ordinance No. 1511-15(Ward 15/Councilmember Zone): Changing the Use District of parcels north of Clifton Blvd. south of Lake Avenue between West 117th Street and West 115th Street to Townhouse and Local Retail Districts; changing the Height District to a '2' Height District; and changing the Area District to a 'K' Area District. Note: this legislation was Tabled by the Planning Commission on December 18, 2015. Also.... Ordinance No. 113-16(Ward 15/Councilmember Zone): Authorizing the Director of Economic Development to enter into a Vacant Property Initiative loan with Lucky's Market, or its designee, and an EDA Equipment loan with Lucky's Market, or its designee, to provide economic development assistance to partially finance the development of the building located at the corner of Clifton Boulevard and West 116th Street to construct a new grocery store. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 5, 20169 yr I'm not allowed to post external links yet, but search "Lakewood designates Curtis Block, adjacent to Lakewood Hospital, as historic" and click the Cleveland.com article. "We are going to take every reasonable effort to either renovate this building ourselves or cause it to be renovated and brought back to life and put back into use in the heart of our downtown," Siley said. It was always a shame to see this building sitting unused, hopefully the they renovate it sooner rather than later!
February 5, 20169 yr I'm not allowed to post external links yet, but search "Lakewood designates Curtis Block, adjacent to Lakewood Hospital, as historic" and click the Cleveland.com article. "We are going to take every reasonable effort to either renovate this building ourselves or cause it to be renovated and brought back to life and put back into use in the heart of our downtown," Siley said. It was always a shame to see this building sitting unused, hopefully the they renovate it sooner rather than later! Good news!
February 5, 20169 yr Very good news--but probably more appropriate in the Lakewood Developement thread? This one (while not very clear) is related to the neighborhoods around 117th between Detroit and Edgewater.
February 20, 20169 yr Ken- do you what they are building on Madison on the Cleveland side of west 117? North side of the street adjacent to that strip with the highland square tavern?
February 20, 20169 yr Ken- do you what they are building on Madison on the Cleveland side of west 117? North side of the street adjacent to that strip with the highland square tavern? A Place For Us LGBT senior housing http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,925.msg772538.html#msg772538 (also scroll up from that posting to see some site photos) "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 20, 20169 yr BTW, in the last few mornings I've noticed bluish-white lights on inside the Fifth Church of Christ Scientist on Lake at West 117th. I can see it from my condo but I haven't walked by the site in a while to see if there's any workers' trucks parked at or near the church. Also, work is progressing on the commercial strip on the south side of Clifton at West 117th. This is where the Starbucks will move to..... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 22, 20169 yr And the other townhouse development in the area.... http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2015/12182015/index.php City Planning Commission Agenda for December 18, 2015 FAR WEST DESIGN REVIEW FW2015-012 – Lake 95 – Saint Thomas New Construction: Seeking Final Approval Project Address: 9509 Lake Avenue Project Representative: Andrew Brickman, Brickhaus Partners Democracy is messy.... http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2016/crr02-29-2016.pdf Board of Zoning Appeals FEBRUARY 29, 2016 9:30 Calendar No. 16-07: Appeal of Anthony Pucek and Sherrie Desmond from the decision of the City Planning Commission Ward 15 Anthony Pucek and Sherrie Desmond, appeal under the authority of Section 76-6(b) of the Charter of the City of Cleveland and Section 329.02(d) of the Cleveland Codified Ordinances from the decision of the City of Cleveland Planning Commission rendered on December 18, 2015 to grant final design review approval of the project known as Lake 95 at 9509 Lake Avenue by 95 Lake LLC (Filed January 19, 2016). "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 22, 20169 yr Democracy is messy.... http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2016/crr02-29-2016.pdf Board of Zoning Appeals FEBRUARY 29, 2016 9:30 Calendar No. 16-07: Appeal of Anthony Pucek and Sherrie Desmond from the decision of the City Planning Commission Ward 15 Anthony Pucek and Sherrie Desmond, appeal under the authority of Section 76-6(b) of the Charter of the City of Cleveland and Section 329.02(d) of the Cleveland Codified Ordinances from the decision of the City of Cleveland Planning Commission rendered on December 18, 2015 to grant final design review approval of the project known as Lake 95 at 9509 Lake Avenue by 95 Lake LLC (Filed January 19, 2016). I assume this is neighbors with setback issues?
February 22, 20169 yr Diner on Clifton is closing on FEB 29th. http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2016/02/22/diner-on-clifton-to-close-on-february-29-after-nearly-two-decades
February 22, 20169 yr ^Sounds like the owner of the diner was being stubborn/unwilling to come to terms with the building's owner. The article mentions that there are plans for a new restaurant in that space and that the owner of the diner will be moving their operation elsewhere.
February 22, 20169 yr ^Sounds like the owner of the diner was being stubborn/unwilling to come to terms with the building's owner. The article mentions that there are plans for a new restaurant in that space and that the owner of the diner will be moving their operation elsewhere. No comment. :|
February 22, 20169 yr Diner on Clifton is closing on FEB 29th. http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2016/02/22/diner-on-clifton-to-close-on-february-29-after-nearly-two-decades This dispute seems wholly unnecessary. But if the end result is two restaurants instead of one it's a net positive I guess. Hmm, anyone know who "aglazen" could be? JK Perry's Diner on Clifton has been the rock of the otherwise pitiful mess that serves as the gateway to Cleveland. That intersection has been shamefully neglected and disrespected. Horrible operators, landlords with no grasp of the importance. Shame on them all. Shame on every landlord and most of the pitiful merchants trashing this vital neighborhood and gateway to Cleveland. The corner is a study on how to fail in every way at urban design and development.
February 22, 20169 yr Democracy is messy.... http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2016/crr02-29-2016.pdf Board of Zoning Appeals FEBRUARY 29, 2016 9:30 Calendar No. 16-07: Appeal of Anthony Pucek and Sherrie Desmond from the decision of the City Planning Commission Ward 15 Anthony Pucek and Sherrie Desmond, appeal under the authority of Section 76-6(b) of the Charter of the City of Cleveland and Section 329.02(d) of the Cleveland Codified Ordinances from the decision of the City of Cleveland Planning Commission rendered on December 18, 2015 to grant final design review approval of the project known as Lake 95 at 9509 Lake Avenue by 95 Lake LLC (Filed January 19, 2016). I assume this is neighbors with setback issues? They've already demolished the site. I suppose the neighbors would prefer a grassy open lot in their quest for suburban tranquility. I don't get it.
February 22, 20169 yr ^Sounds like the owner of the diner was being stubborn/unwilling to come to terms with the building's owner. The article mentions that there are plans for a new restaurant in that space and that the owner of the diner will be moving their operation elsewhere. Speculation has been they are moving into the old PNC. I wonder what that old Starbucks will turn into?
February 22, 20169 yr ^Sounds like the owner of the diner was being stubborn/unwilling to come to terms with the building's owner. The article mentions that there are plans for a new restaurant in that space and that the owner of the diner will be moving their operation elsewhere. Speculation has been they are moving into the old PNC. I wonder what that old Starbucks will turn into? I hope someone demolishes it and builds some apartments there. I'm not a fan of that building, or the way it fails to interact with the street/sidewalk.
February 28, 20169 yr Rockport Square townhomes progress.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 29, 20169 yr Visual progress report on A Place For Us housing by NRP Group at the West 117th Rapid station. Now if they could just develop the low-density, single-use, anti-pedestrian/transit lots on the NW corner of West 117th and Madison with mixed-use housing over retail/offices... And it was a pretty busy station this mid-afternoon: How the development looks from the entrance to the station building: View from West 117th -- actually got a break in traffic to get this shot: "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 8, 20169 yr Plans for grocery store, townhouses ready to move forward according to Cleveland Council member A new grocery store is planned for the intersection of West 117th Street and Clifton Boulevard on the Lakewood border. A city block of old buildings were demolished by crews for the project, which also called for new townhouses. But two years later, a fence sits around a vacant lot. Debate over the future of a city-owned 90-year-old church building held up the project, until developers agreed to save parts of the landmark and use them in the facade of the new buildings. Now, Cleveland City Council member Matt Zone said the project will get back on track soon. http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/plans-for-grocery-store-townhouses-ready-to-move-forward-according-to-cleveland-council-member
April 5, 20169 yr Ran into the owner of Clifton Diner at his restaurant. He says the purchase of the PNC bank at Clifton/West 115th isn't finalized but is progressing. He said he hopes it will be done soon and that renovations can start by July, depending on the city approvals process. He showed me an artist's rendering of what the bank will look like post-renovation. It has an outdoor dining area fronting on Clifton and, if/when he can afford it, a patio where the bank drive-through is now that can be opened/enclosed depending on the weather. The proposed patio would expand up to the existing two-story, mixed-use building that has Flower Child on the east end and Papa Nicks on the west end. It would make for a nice continuous frontage along the sidewalk. I hope he can scrape together enough coins to make it happen soon. I urged him to post the picture here on UrbanOhio. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 6, 20169 yr Ran into the owner of Clifton Diner at his restaurant. He says the purchase of the PNC bank at Clifton/West 115th isn't finalized but is progressing. He said he hopes it will be done soon and that renovations can start by July, depending on the city approvals process. He showed me an artist's rendering of what the bank will look like post-renovation. It has an outdoor dining area fronting on Clifton and, if/when he can afford it, a patio where the bank drive-through is now that can be opened/enclosed depending on the weather. The proposed patio would expand up to the existing two-story, mixed-use building that has Flower Child on the east end and Papa Nicks on the west end. It would make for a nice continuous frontage along the sidewalk. I hope he can scrape together enough coins to make it happen soon. I urged him to post the picture here on UrbanOhio. He's got enough fans in the area that a Kickstarter may help his cause. You should talk with him. Even if he raised $25,000, that would help defer the costs or provide collateral.
April 11, 20169 yr The Diner on Clifton will officially close the doors of its current location on April 18. But it’s not for long! http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/oh-cuyahoga/the-diner-on-clifton-announces-last-day-of-business-at-current-location "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 18, 20169 yr Plans for grocery store, townhouses ready to move forward according to Cleveland Council member A new grocery store is planned for the intersection of West 117th Street and Clifton Boulevard on the Lakewood border. A city block of old buildings were demolished by crews for the project, which also called for new townhouses. But two years later, a fence sits around a vacant lot. Debate over the future of a city-owned 90-year-old church building held up the project, until developers agreed to save parts of the landmark and use them in the facade of the new buildings. Now, Cleveland City Council member Matt Zone said the project will get back on track soon. http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/plans-for-grocery-store-townhouses-ready-to-move-forward-according-to-cleveland-council-member I can't believe it's been over 2 yrs since that corner was demo'd and still nothing has been built. It's either a sign of how weak this market is or how ineffective the local government & developers are, that they can't even develop a low-end grocery store on the parcel...
April 18, 20169 yr I wouldn't consider Lucky's to be low-end. But it has been a long time coming. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 18, 20169 yr I wouldn't consider Lucky's to be low-end. But it has been a long time coming. Given that the project includes a historic property owned by the city, rezoning and a developer reusing part of the former structure, I'm surprised it isn't taking 2-3 more! Personally I'm glad they are taking their time and using the corner for a mixed use, hopefully non-strip-mallish use.
April 18, 20169 yr I wouldn't consider Lucky's to be low-end. But it has been a long time coming. Given that the project includes a historic property owned by the city, rezoning and a developer reusing part of the former structure, I'm surprised it isn't taking 2-3 more! Personally I'm glad they are taking their time and using the corner for a mixed use, hopefully non-strip-mallish use. is it mixed use? that's news to me. I thought it was just the grocery store & parking. Is there a residential component?
April 18, 20169 yr I wouldn't consider Lucky's to be low-end. But it has been a long time coming. Given that the project includes a historic property owned by the city, rezoning and a developer reusing part of the former structure, I'm surprised it isn't taking 2-3 more! Personally I'm glad they are taking their time and using the corner for a mixed use, hopefully non-strip-mallish use. is it mixed use? that's news to me. I thought it was just the grocery store & parking. Is there a residential component? It is--the townhouse developement on Lake Ave might be separate, but it is tied to the Lucky's market in the resuse of the church facade and rezoning of the entire block.
April 18, 20169 yr True. Except I'm pretty sure the residential component is by a separate developer which has been picking apart the church in recent months and testing its materials to see what's re-usable. As much material as possible from the old church will be deconstructed and re-used in the housing development. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 18, 20169 yr None of this is mixed use. The Clifton frontage is commercial, the Lake frontage is residential, and I thought the projects were unrelated. So I don't get why the grocery lot is still just sitting there. Maybe there's some agreement for the church demo crew to use part of that lot.
April 19, 20169 yr None of this is mixed use. The Clifton frontage is commercial, the Lake frontage is residential, and I thought the projects were unrelated. So I don't get why the grocery lot is still just sitting there. Maybe there's some agreement for the church demo crew to use part of that lot. Pretty much my take exactly
April 19, 20169 yr Kroger just invested in Lucky's. Could that possibly be part of the delay? Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk
April 19, 20169 yr I think part of the delay was a result of land swap deals between the city, Carnegie Companies (Clifton Retail/Lucky's developer), and Brickman/Brickhaus Partners (townhouse developer), all of which was waiting on the church demo.
April 19, 20169 yr Welcome, JVin! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 19, 20169 yr None of this is mixed use. The Clifton frontage is commercial, the Lake frontage is residential, and I thought the projects were unrelated. So I don't get why the grocery lot is still just sitting there. Maybe there's some agreement for the church demo crew to use part of that lot. Pretty much my take exactly Except it's not exactly true. Let's call the developers kissing cousins. The two developments had to happen at once because of a landswap deal with the city and the shopping developer (allowing the church to be torn down and free up parking in the rear). At the same time, neighbors fighting the church deconstruction worked out a solution with the townhomes involving part reusing the church. So when you factor in the City of Cleveland owned the church, the townhome developer needs the church materials, and the shopping developer needs to complete the landswap to get their financing done, I'm surprised it's not taking longer. I do credit Matt Zone with helping to push this process along. http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2015/05/luckys_market_grocer_new_to_cl.html
April 19, 20169 yr Fair enough, but that article is almost a year old now. Still seems a little slow. Personally I love the look of that dome so the delay doesn't bother me.
April 19, 20169 yr Fair enough, but that article is almost a year old now. Still seems a little slow. Personally I love the look of that dome so the delay doesn't bother me. Yeah no arguments from me with you on that. As witnessed in the Cleveland Zoning thread, none of these processes in the city are conducive to getting things done quickly. Here is a "more recent" article from 9 months ago. http://legacy.wkyc.com/story/news/local/cleveland/2015/07/29/new-grocer-planned-for-edgewater-neighborhood/30856167/
April 19, 20169 yr Welcome, JVin! Thanks! I've been a fan of the forum for a really long time. Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk
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