7 hours ago, cbussoccer said:

 

I'm not sure why. Last I checked (before the pandemic) it was cheaper to get to Paris by flying out of CMH and taking a layover than it was to fly to Paris direct from CVG. There were also many more options with much more favorable departure/arrival times and total travel times were about equal to driving to CVG from Columbus and then flying. 

A nonstop flight to Paris via CVG will usually run you $1200+

 

A flight from CVG to Paris with a layover is usually hundreds of dollars cheaper. Often in the $500-600's, and sometimes even lower if you're lucky. The nonstop flight is convenient, but it isn't worth the extra $600 in my mind. If it was on my company's dime, I would certainly be booking the direct flight.

2 hours ago, cbussoccer said:

 

I'm not sure why. Last I checked (before the pandemic) it was cheaper to get to Paris by flying out of CMH and taking a layover than it was to fly to Paris direct from CVG. There were also many more options with much more favorable departure/arrival times and total travel times were about equal to driving to CVG from Columbus and then flying. 

I’m not sure about the price difference but I’m personally aware of business travelers from nearby cities using the Paris flight out of CVG. Those travelers along with Business Travelers from some of Cincinnati’s giant companies have kept the flight healthy over many years.

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21 minutes ago, ryanlammi said:

A nonstop flight to Paris via CVG will usually run you $1200+

 

A flight from CVG to Paris with a layover is usually hundreds of dollars cheaper. Often in the $500-600's, and sometimes even lower if you're lucky. The nonstop flight is convenient, but it isn't worth saving $600 in my mind. If it was on my company's dime, I would certainly be booking the direct flight.

I worked for a restaurant group in Cincinnati some years back and the chef/owner used to take this flight to get ideas for menu items, it’s seems this flight does really well with mostly “business” related travel which is why those high ticket prices still sell. But I will caution everyone large corporations like P&G and GE Aviation do NOT pay those listed prices they have corporate rates just like when they stay in hotels the rates are cheaper

43 minutes ago, 646empire said:

I worked for a restaurant group in Cincinnati some years back and the chef/owner used to take this flight to get ideas for menu items, it’s seems this flight does really well with mostly “business” related travel which is why those high ticket prices still sell. But I will caution everyone large corporations like P&G and GE Aviation do NOT pay those listed prices they have corporate rates just like when they stay in hotels the rates are cheaper

I am going out on a limb and guess you were working for David Falk??

10 hours ago, Brutus_buckeye said:

I am going out on a limb and guess you were working for David Falk??

No comment. Lol. 

CVG launches newest flight today

 

Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport's newest flight is ready for takeoff.

 

Allegiant Air is set to debut its latest offering at CVG today, with the launch of the Las Vegas-based airline's flight to Key West. The route will operate twice a week, departing at 2:44 p.m. on Wednesdays and arriving at 8:43 p.m. on Saturdays.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2021/06/09/cvg-launches-newest-flight-today.html

 

CFM is a joint venture between GE and Safran (French company). I'm sure both companies used the flight fairly regularly

17 hours ago, Cincy_Travels said:

CFM is a joint venture between GE and Safran (French company). I'm sure both companies used the flight fairly regularly

Safran employs about 300 in Walton, KY

This is a nice add (x2 daily).  Hopefully Delta adds their service back too.                           https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2021/06/10/american-airlines-cvg-to-austin.html

Edited June 10, 20214 yr by Cincy13

9 hours ago, Cincy13 said:

This is a nice add (x2 daily).  Hopefully Delta adds their service back too.                           https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2021/06/10/american-airlines-cvg-to-austin.html

Delta currently has theirs returning in March of 2022 at 2x daily. I'm curious if it'll get bumped up

Southwest starts service to two new destinations from CVG this weekend

 

Two new Southwest Airlines flights from Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport to Sarasota and Fort Myers launch Saturday.

 

Southwest is beginning weekly service from CVG to Sarasota and Fort Myers. The flights will operate on Saturdays only.

 

Southwest and CVG announced the flights on April 30.

 

In the wake of the pandemic, Southwest has added leisure destinations to CVG to meet the increased demand for vacation travel.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2021/06/11/southwest-new-flights.html

 

On 6/10/2021 at 11:35 PM, Cincy_Travels said:

Delta currently has theirs returning in March of 2022 at 2x daily. I'm curious if it'll get bumped up

Delta will probably move it up, American has been going into cities where Delta has been slow to reintroduce service. Delta either wakes up or they lose business. Case in point in Columbus they put a pause on Boston. American introduced new service to Boston from Columbus, and bam Delta brought back the flight.

Based on Cincinnati migratory patterns, I feel like there can literally never be enough flights from CVG to Fort Myers and Sarasota.  That side of Florida is such a magnet for Cincinnati retirees. 

 

About 10 years ago now (gulp) I flew to Fort Myers to CVG on Delta for business.  I am not kidding, I think the entire flight but me used the "preboard if you need extra time because you are older" option.  

 

(Fort Myers airport is pretty nice, by the way.) 

On 6/11/2021 at 11:40 PM, savadams13 said:

Delta will probably move it up, American has been going into cities where Delta has been slow to reintroduce service. Delta either wakes up or they lose business. Case in point in Columbus they put a pause on Boston. American introduced new service to Boston from Columbus, and bam Delta brought back the flight.

I was right. Delta announced yesterday that Austin is now coming back in September to fend off American

Amazon's $1.5 billion US air cargo hub is open for business

Kirsten Korosec

Wed, August 11, 2021, 8:00 AM·1 min read

 

Amazon's $1.5 billion air cargo hub in Northern Kentucky opened Wednesday, the latest effort by the e-commerce giant to connect a network of 40 sites and control all aspects of delivery as demand for speed and convenience accelerates.

 

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Was this subdivision never finished because of CVG? There is one active (maybe abandoned) house back there.

 

https://goo.gl/maps/Qn3kTGcaXG3MBmoh7

26 minutes ago, seicer said:

Was this subdivision never finished because of CVG? There is one active (maybe abandoned) house back there.

 

https://goo.gl/maps/Qn3kTGcaXG3MBmoh7

I think that neighborhood is almost in the direct flight path of 9/27. The airport would have been on the hook to soundproof each and every house, so they just bought all the land instead and left the few homes that were actually built. 

The area could also be considered in a "crash zone". Rickenbacker tore down or moved quite a few houses for crash zones in the '90s.

Also looks like a good place to host time trials.

 

Rich is like, "Don't even think about it"

9 hours ago, GCrites80s said:

Also looks like a good place to host time trials.

 

Rich is like, "Don't even think about it"

 

Or maybe explore that lone house out there 😉

11 hours ago, richNcincy said:

I think that neighborhood is almost in the direct flight path of 9/27. The airport would have been on the hook to soundproof each and every house, so they just bought all the land instead and left the few homes that were actually built. 

 

The neighborhood was fully built out originally, in the 70s or 80s. When that runway was expanded, the airport was given a grant by the FAA to buy all the homes and tear them down. It was voluntary on the part of the property owners, and there were a couple holdouts. They may have gotten some money for sound-proofing instead of selling.

 

Edit: ETHANS GLEN was the name of the subdivision if you want to look up some of the old articles about it.

Edited August 26, 20213 yr by Ram23

At Rickenbacker they moved two houses about 1.5 miles away. One blew apart in a storm before the foundation was done. There was only a little left, maybe the kitchen and bathroom. It was an ordinary '60s split level. When they finally got it done it became a 3-story mansion: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.8048779,-82.899283,3a,75y,89.34h,90.7t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOb_ztqYHflYB005Dx4kf1Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 I have no idea who funded this whether it was Rickenbacker paying a ton for it or insurance or the people were rich anyway. Another house got moved much further away -- over 5 miles into Pickaway County. Also a plain old '60s split level that got added onto a bunch: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7691014,-82.894511,3a,75y,351.04h,88.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0EA0kAWdBknsKg1vBmNuAg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

As recently as 1993 the neighborhood was completely built out and intact. The houses were slowly demolished over time. I can remember several years back there were still a couple holdouts.

 

 

 

Delta again postpones relaunch of Paris flight at CVG

 

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Delta Air Lines has shelved plans to resume the only transatlantic flight at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport next month, moving the restart date for the flight to Paris to March 26, 2022.

 

Various dates have been floated for the Paris flight’s return, including March, July 2, Sept. 8 and Oct. 30. But demand just isn’t there, according to CVG officials.

 

“Paris was scheduled to come back in October,” said CVG’s vice president for external affairs, Bobby Spann. “With the (Covid-19 Delta variant) surge and really no demand developing, including on the corporate side … Delta (Air Lines) has made the decision to suspend that until March 2022.”

 

The Paris flight was grounded on March 28, 2020, and was originally announced to restart in March 2021, but much of Europe remained closed because of Covid-19. Before the pandemic, it operated four days per week.

 

missed the talk about Ethans Glen...  I had a lot of friends who lived there before the buyouts for the sound levels.  most moved to new neighborhoods in hebron & burlington that were being built at the time - Kingsgate, Treetops, Thornwild.  it was a lot of neighbors rearranging themselves.  CVG also bought out houses all along Conrad Lane, and about 3 miles out along 338 west of burlington at the same time.  A lot of the land towards burlington is now Idelwild-England park and the jail/justice center.  as you drive out past that on 338 there are still signs of former driveways and evergreen trees that were once next to peoples houses that are now out of place 'in the wild'.  it is crazy how much land is owned by CVG - you can see it clearly on the Boone County GIS site when you turn on the parcel owner layer.

 

 

this is a ROUGH outline of where they bought people out.  not everyone sold, but there used to be a lot more houses.

Greater Cincinnati brewery looks to open a location at CVG

 

Braxton Brewing Co. is exploring opening a brewpub at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport.

 

The board that oversees CVG recently approved a proposal to give Braxton a seven-year lease, but a deal has not been finalized.

 

“Though we don’t have a deal signed on paper yet, we’re optimistic about the potential of this new opportunity and really excited about this new chapter for Braxton,” Braxton CEO and co-founder Jake Rouse said in a statement. “Look, traveling is always stressful, even in the best of times. We’re hoping that the potential of this new taproom in the airport gives people another opportunity to lift one to life and celebrate everything that’s good in our city right now.”

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2021/10/03/cincinnati-brewery-looks-to-open-a-location-at-cvg.html

 

The CVG consolidated rental car facility is opening soon. I was able to snap this picture of the walkway from

baggage claim.  Looks quite nice! 

CVG unveils massive $175 million rental car facility

 

Decades ago, thousands of people flew out of Terminals 1 and 2 at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport in its former life as a Delta Air Lines hub.

 

Now, those facilities have been demolished and replaced by a massive, five-story, $175 million consolidated rental car facility that will allow passengers to walk from the terminal to their rental car without taking a bus. The facility will open to customers on Oct. 20.

 

“It’s hugely important for the airport for a couple of reasons,” said CVG CEO Candace McGraw. “It provides a new front-door entry into the airport. It provides a connected, walkable solution for all of the rental car companies. Not only did we change the roadway infrastructure, we built this ground transportation center that will take all of our commercial traffic off the roadways. That will ease roadway congestion coming in.”

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2021/10/12/cvg-unveils-new-175-million-facility.html

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2021/10/08/cincinnati-s-future-cars-and-cvg-not-rail.html

 

The big airport related matter and takeaway from this is:

Finally, he said, people need to fully understand how key the DHL and Amazon Air hubs will be to the region.

“We’re the seventh-largest port in the United States. Los Angeles, Miami, Houston — Cincinnati is there,” Policinski said. “The world is moving to CVG ... other companies are starting to form around the airport. They want to be a part of the action."

 

there is a rather large logistics infatructure that will be booming around NKY in the coming years. 

CVG reopens most heavily-used runway

By Natalya Daoud

Published: Oct. 18, 2021 at 12:15 PM PDT|Updated: 16 hours ago

 

CINCINNATI (WXIX) - The Cincinnati Northern Kentucky Airport reopened one of its runways Monday that’s been closed for months.

CVG’s only east/west runway was closed due to a major rehabilitation project partially funded by the Federal Aviation Administration.

The newly 12,000-foot runway is the airport’s most prolonged and heavily used runway, especially for cargo carriers.

The $69 million investment started in 2019, but the construction started in the latter part of 2020.

 

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58 minutes ago, The_Cincinnati_Kid said:

The newly 12,000-foot runway is the airport’s most prolonged and heavily used runway, especially for cargo carriers. 

CVG’s most…“prolonged” runway?! 🤦‍♂️

Looks like the Paris flight might get pushed back again. Delta announced yesterday that the RDU to CDG flight has been pushed from March to August 2022 now. Only saving grace would be the amount of cargo between CVG and CDG that Delta wouldnt push it back. Its primarily the only reason there is a 767-3 at the moment daily between ATL and CVG. All the cargo coming in from CDG. 

16 minutes ago, savadams13 said:

Looks like the Paris flight might get pushed back again. Delta announced yesterday that the RDU to CDG flight has been pushed from March to August 2022 now. Only saving grace would be the amount of cargo between CVG and CDG that Delta wouldnt push it back. Its primarily the only reason there is a 767-3 at the moment daily between ATL and CVG. All the cargo coming in from CDG. 

With DHL and Amazon there now, would the cargo shift to those carriers?

I know that GE has a contract with Delta, but if the cargo is what made it profitable, you would think that those carriers could shift over and cover that service in a more cost effective manner? Of course, DHL has been around forever and they have not been used for shipping to CVG from Paris. Does anyone know the answer to that question?

On 10/7/2021 at 9:42 PM, richNcincy said:

The CVG consolidated rental car facility is opening soon. I was able to snap this picture of the walkway from

baggage claim.  Looks quite nice! 

 

CVG has announced that once the new facility opens, all of the parking and hotel shuttles will move to the new "Ground Transportation West" area (part of the new rental car facility) while taxis, rideshares, public transportation, and employee shuttles will be in the rebranded "Ground Transportation East" area (same area where the TANK shuttle picks up now). I'm guessing that the area directly in front of ticketing will be exclusively used for passenger pickup/dropoff once that change is made?

4 hours ago, Brutus_buckeye said:

With DHL and Amazon there now, would the cargo shift to those carriers?

I know that GE has a contract with Delta, but if the cargo is what made it profitable, you would think that those carriers could shift over and cover that service in a more cost effective manner? Of course, DHL has been around forever and they have not been used for shipping to CVG from Paris. Does anyone know the answer to that question?

I know that Amazon isnt doing international flights yet from CVG. DHL doesnt service or fly into any major airports in France. With the GE Safran cooperation agreement for aviation, it has always made since to put cargo on the direct route. If DHL were to add a flight from CVG to CDG or Orly, I could see the cargo changing over.  Until then it makes since to try and get the CDG flight back for GE to transport product to Safran and Airbus easier. 

2 hours ago, taestell said:

I'm guessing that the area directly in front of ticketing will be exclusively used for passenger pickup/dropoff once that change is made?

Yes, that is the goal.  And is the best way to keep traffic flowing during the busy seasons.

 

The new "west" transportation area will actually be nice due to it always being protected from the elements, as it's on the base level of the new parking garages. 

CVG’s low-fare winning streak hits a new milestone

 

As recently as 2015, the average fares at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport were the highest in the nation, even as the airport had started to attract ultra low-cost carriers that would eventually solve a problem that had sent travelers to Dayton and other nearby airports.

 

Now, with the new report from the U.S. Bureau of Transportation Statistics, CVG has reached its fourth year in a row as the lowest-fare airport in the region, besting Dayton, Indianapolis, Columbus and Louisville.

 

CVG’s average airfare during the second quarter of 2021 was $280, below the $300 national average. It had the 25th-lowest fares in the United States out of the top 100 airports by passenger count.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2021/10/20/cvg-s-low-fare-winning-streak-hits-a-new-milestone.html

I was flying into CVG nearly every month when I was working remotely prior to my move. I would have loved the rental car facility 

Airline expanding nonstop service at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport

 

Alaska Airlines is adding flights at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport.

 

Alaska, which began service in May to Seattle, will go from one to two nonstop flights per day on the CVG-Seattle route, the airport announced Thursday.

 

The new flights will start on June 16.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2021/10/28/airline-expands-service-at-cvg.html

 

Delta postpones relaunch of CVG’s only transatlantic flight; announces other restart dates

 

Delta Air Lines has put off the restart date for Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport’s flight to Paris to August 2022, according to airport officials.

 

It’s the latest delay for the airport’s sole transatlantic flight. Previous restart dates have included March, July, September and October of this year. CVG officials said they were disappointed at the continued delays but are pleased the Paris flight will return.

 

“Unless there’s some other issue with Covid this will be the last time they delay their start,” Bobby Spann, the airport’s external affairs vice president, said, describing his conversations with Delta.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2021/11/19/paris-flight-delayed.html

 

Awhile back, I went to check out that abandoned subdivision west of 9/27. There are still two homes back there, both occupied. If you want to see some photos and read about it though, here's the link (just skip the first few paragraphs of rambling if you want historical detail on the subdivision): https://ronnysalerno.com/queencitydiscovery/flight-and-former-front-yards

 

Headed to CVG? Look out for delivery robots

 

Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport is offering customers a new way to get their food at the airport — robots.

 

Santa Monica, Calif.-based Ottonomy has launched a fleet of Ottobots, the company's autonomous delivery robots, at the airport just as holiday travel kicks into full swing. The launch comes roughly a year after Ottonomy piloted its robots at CVG.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/inno/stories/news/2021/12/17/headed-to-cvg-look-out-for-delivery-robots.html

 

CVG sets a new all-time record

By Chris Wetterich  –  Staff reporter and columnist, Cincinnati Business Courier

Dec 21, 2021, 1:06pm EST

 

Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport set another new all-time record for how much cargo is moved through the airport in October.

 

In October, 156,213 tons of cargo landed at the airport compared with the previous all-time high of 143,197 in April.

 

Cargo now represents 68% of the landed weight at the airport, compared with 32% from passengers operations. Overall, cargo is up 17% year to date. Before the pandemic, the mix was closer to 55% cargo, 45% passenger.

 

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Most is either cash incentives for marketing and a combination of fee waivers for landing, gates, etc.

 

CVG offering incentives to lure new airlines, service

By Chris Wetterich  –  Staff reporter and columnist, Cincinnati Business Courier

 

Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport is offering a new incentive program in an attempt to attract new airlines and new destinations from existing airlines.

The Federal Aviation Administration allows airports to offer relief on landing fees and terminal rents to prospective airlines. CVG’s program ends at the end of 2021 and its board approved a fresh one to run from 2022 through 2025.

CVG goals are to land new international and domestic air service, add competition and increase revenues.

 

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76 Gear (a really interesting aviation-focused YouTube channel) covered a small SNAFU at CVG on his latest episode (starting at around 0:43):

 

 

 

More flights returning to CVG, including some expansions of existing service

 

More flights from Delta Air Lines, Sun Country Airlines and Air Canada are scheduled to return to Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport this year.

 

Delta Air Lines plans to restart service to Chicago, Dallas and San Francisco, but not until the fall.

 

Delta’s Chicago service will restart on Sept. 12; its Dallas service will restart on Sept. 11; and its San Francisco service will restart on Sept. 12.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2022/02/14/cvg-flights-returning.html

 

9 minutes ago, ColDayMan said:

More flights returning to CVG, including some expansions of existing service

 

More flights from Delta Air Lines, Sun Country Airlines and Air Canada are scheduled to return to Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport this year.

 

Delta Air Lines plans to restart service to Chicago, Dallas and San Francisco, but not until the fall.

 

Delta’s Chicago service will restart on Sept. 12; its Dallas service will restart on Sept. 11; and its San Francisco service will restart on Sept. 12.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2022/02/14/cvg-flights-returning.html

 

 

Shame I have to wait til Fall for ORD. But I understand its due to DL being relocated to Terminal 5 once the addition is completed. 

Details announced on international carrier's relaunch at CVG

By Chris Wetterich  –  Staff reporter and columnist, Cincinnati Business Courier

 

Air Canada will relaunch service from Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport to Toronto on May 1, with two flights per day.

 

It's the first flights for the international carrier in two years because of the coronavirus pandemic.

 

The flights will depart CVG daily at 6:10 a.m. and 4:40 p.m. and arrive at Toronto's Pearson International Airport at 7:42 a.m. and 6:12 p.m. respectively.

 

The flights will be on a 50-seat CRJ200.

 

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CVG airline restores two nonstop destinations

 

Frontier Airlines is restoring service to two nonstop destinations from Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport this summer.

 

On May 26, Frontier will begin flying to Raleigh-Durham three times a week on Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday. On May 27, it will begin flying to Philadelphia four times a week on Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2022/03/10/cvg-airline-restores-two-nonstop-destinations.html

 

Another international cargo carrier sets up shop at CVG

By Chris Wetterich  –  Staff reporter and columnist, Cincinnati Business Courier

 

A new cargo airline is starting service out of Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport.

 

Silk Way West Airlines will operate 80 inbound and outbound flights at CVG this year, adding an estimated 14,400 tons of cargo. The carrier will come in from Asia and Europe weekly until the summer, then add another weekly flight in the summer months.

 

While the amount of cargo is dwarfed by the giants operating out of CVG today – Amazon and DHL, both of which have superhubs at the airport — Silk Way West’s arrival is a part of a strategy by CVG to diversify its cargo carriers, similar to what it has done by adding low-cost or ultra-low cost passenger airlines to the three remaining legacy carriers.

 

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