January 28, 200916 yr I'd be wary of this latest deal involving the people who were involved with Skybus. The startup airline is asking for $6 million from local agencies which sounds pretty similar to what they did in Cbus and then shut down shortly there after. Essentially an attempt at socializing their risks. If they succeed then they got the startup money they needed, if they fail, then they're out $6 million less. Luckily for us, Cincinnati business leaders aren't falling for it... http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20090128/BIZ01/901290303/1055/NEWS
January 28, 200916 yr The airline I am working with is NOT asking for that $ from local agencies. I wouldn't give them any money. I could run an airline better than those bums could. You'll like the service offered by the carrier I am working with... trust me!
January 28, 200916 yr no doubt. This is stupid. F it... I'll fly Delta... better then this crap Then just tell us already. GeezusHChrist!
February 13, 200916 yr Roughly keeping track of the all of the various news stories over the past few weeks, there are stories or rumors 4 new airlines starting up at CVG: AirTran, TAZ, JetAmerica, and Allegiant Air.
February 13, 200916 yr Anyone else notice Delta's fares at CVG have come down drastically lately? I think they are on to this new airline. To fly from LGA in New York City to CVG is the same price as LGA to Dayton, $216 round trip plus tax. A few months ago it was over $400 for the same flight.
February 13, 200916 yr We're talking weeks. I was looking for flights to Portland, OR out of CVG and they were $410 a couple Mondays ago. The Tuesday after (the next day!) they were $810...BUT...last weekend after the announced fare cuts I got one for $236.
February 13, 200916 yr Anyone else notice Delta's fares at CVG have come down drastically lately? I think they are on to this new airline. There was an article about this maybe last week. The article said that the fare cuts were simply because local traffic was WAY down. With the cut in hub traffic, I think they finally realized just how many people are driving to Dayton, Columbus, etc (the airport is often DEAD compared to even 8 or 9 months ago for those of you who haven't gone lately.) I have tickets out to the West Coast that probably cost a couple hundred more than they would today - so I'm a little pissed. However, I'm flying a lot this year, so I'm just glad that fares are down so far. I'll come out way ahead in the end.
February 13, 200916 yr ^ Be sure to sign up with their new airmiles program they have too! PM me for the article if you can't find it.
February 13, 200916 yr ^ Be sure to sign up with their new airmiles program they have too! PM me for the article if you can't find it. Airmiles??
February 13, 200916 yr While it may be true that traffic is down, one of these rumors about another airline had to have some truth to it or Delta wouldn't be doing this. It would seem that they are gauging whether it worth maintaining the hub - if numbers go back up and they recapture their lost business from the surrounding towns then we'd have a chance to keep it, otherwise - poof.
February 13, 200916 yr ^ Be sure to sign up with their new airmiles program they have too! PM me for the article if you can't find it. Airmiles?? I believe he's talking about the bonus skymiles offer... Enjoy big rewards and competitive fares for flying from Cincinnati. Purchase and fly nonstop round-trip flights between Cincinnati (CVG) and 15 select cities across the U.S. now through May 12, 2009, and earn up to 25,000 bonus miles. 1st round trip = 3,000 miles 2nd round trip = 3,000 miles 3rd round trip = 4,000 miles 4th round trip = 5,000 miles 5th round trip = 10,000 miles Total 25,000 bonus miles Now, you have 25,000 reasons to fly from Cincinnati—a very big bonus mile offer and of course, competitive fares. Fly nonstop round trip between Cincinnati (CVG) and these cities: Atlanta (ATL) Newark (EWR) Baltimore (BWI) Philadelphia (PHL) Charlotte (CLT)Phoenix (PHX) Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW) San Diego (SAN) Denver (DEN) San Francisco (SFO) Kansas City (MCI) Seattle (SEA) Los Angeles (LAX) Washington-Reagan National (DCA) New York/LaGuardia (LGA) Earning up to 25,000 bonus miles on these select flights will bring you that much closer to an Award Travel ticket from Delta. We serve more worldwide destinations than any other airline; so you'll always have more places to choose from. Enjoy more miles and great fares. Register today, book your flight between Cincinnati and 15 select cities and complete your travel now through May 12, 2009.
February 17, 200916 yr ^ Be sure to sign up with their new airmiles program they have too! PM me for the article if you can't find it. Airmiles?? I believe he's talking about the bonus skymiles offer... Damn ... you know what I mean, sky/air same thing. ;)
March 4, 200916 yr So no new news on the new airline? Checked the FAA database and no operating certificate for TAZ yet... May 9th is awful close not to have paperwork, ground equipment, gates, staff, pilots, and airplanes ready to go...
March 6, 200916 yr Northern Kentucky's Tri-Ed hopes fare cuts pull CVG out of nosedive Business Courier of Cincinnati - by Lisa Biank Fasig An index that measures the freight and passenger numbers out of Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport has declined sharply in 2008, to its lowest level in 13 years, a troublesome sign for local businesses that depend on the airport. The prognosis for 2009 is not much better, according to the Center for Economic Analysis and Development at Northern Kentucky University, though lower fuel prices and fare reductions could improve the index somewhat, and possibly improve recruiting. “Activity in Cincinnati will come back a little bit but the total national and regional environment is not good,” said Feng Guo, senior research economist at the center. “I think (it) will have some effect on the economic development in the region.” Read full article here: http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2009/03/09/story8.html
March 6, 200916 yr My inside source tells me the big Delta terminal -- the one built in 1994 -- is going to be mothballed. The underground tram will be shut down. The ancient terminals 1 and 2 will remain open, along with terminal 3 and the older Delta concourse.
March 6, 200916 yr My inside source tells me the big Delta terminal -- the one built in 1994 -- is going to be mothballed. The underground tram will be shut down. The ancient terminals 1 and 2 will remain open, along with terminal 3 and the older Delta concourse. None of that makes sense to me
March 6, 200916 yr Agreed, Terminals 1 and 2 are in terrible cosmetic condition. Why they aren't closed and everything moved to the much nicer Terminal 3 I don't know. Some of this might have to do with Delta's rights to Concourse B left over from its original construction in the 1990s. Some of you might remember that originally only half of Concourse B was opened while the other half was still under construction. Perhaps they could move back a setup like that and demolish Terminals 1 and 2.
March 6, 200916 yr I thought Terminal 1 has been closed for at least four or five years. Terminal 2 could probably be brought up to operating standards with minimal investment - new seats and a new paint job.
March 6, 200916 yr My inside source tells me the big Delta terminal -- the one built in 1994 -- is going to be mothballed. The underground tram will be shut down. The ancient terminals 1 and 2 will remain open, along with terminal 3 and the older Delta concourse. Terminal 1 is closed accept for some Fedex flights. I can't see how Delta could operate out of terminal 2. It is small and there aren't that many gates available. Terminal 3 is the BIG Delta terminal. Maybe your source meant they would shut down concourse A or B within the terminal? If they shut down concourse B, they could easily avoid using the tram.
March 7, 200916 yr Doesn't make any sense to me either. Why would they close the Concourse B (?) and reopen the older, smaller terminal that has been closed for several years?
March 7, 200916 yr ^ Jmecklenborg, can we get clarification from " The Source". I think that might clear the confusion up.
March 7, 200916 yr My inside source tells me the big Delta terminal -- the one built in 1994 -- is going to be mothballed. The underground tram will be shut down. The ancient terminals 1 and 2 will remain open, along with terminal 3 and the older Delta concourse. He is talking about B concourse being mothballed. This will not happen unless Delta pulls it's hub from Cincinnati.
March 11, 200916 yr How will Delta cuts affect CVG? Delta, the world's largest airline, will cut 6 to 8 percent of its schedule after the summer travel season ends. How the cuts - forced by slack demand in the face of the recession - could affect the local hub at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport remains unknown, because Delta gave no details. Meanwhile, workers could be facing further job cuts, executives told employees in a memo Tuesday. The memo from chief executive officer Richard Anderson and president Ed Bastian also did not lay out specifics about potential job juts. But it did say that while recent voluntary buyouts met the overall target of cutting 2,100 jobs, more could be needed. "We again must reassess our staffing needs," the memo said. Read full article here: http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20090311/BIZ01/903110335/1055/NEWS
March 11, 200916 yr Here is a shot I took two weeks ago of all the DHL planes mothballed back by DHL's "old" warehouse. The plane I was on went over and parked next to them for an hour during a delay. The strange rainbow effect was unintentionally caused by shooting through two planes of plastic glass with a polarizer filter:
March 13, 200916 yr http://www.flytaz.com/ anyone have any new info on this? those schedules look pretty sweet to me!
March 13, 200916 yr What is considered "Chicago", "New York City" and "Washington, DC"? For "Chicago" is it O'Hare or Midway? For "NYC" is it LaGuardia, Kennedy, Newark, White Plains, Stewart-Newburgh or Islip? For "DC" is it National, Dulles, or Baltimore-Washington? Seems kinda vague. Actually it seems really vague!
March 13, 200916 yr What is considered "Chicago", "New York City" and "Washington, DC"? For "Chicago" is it O'Hare or Midway? For "NYC" is it LaGuardia, Kennedy, Newark, White Plains, Stewart-Newburgh or Islip? For "DC" is it National, Dulles, or Baltimore-Washington? Seems kinda vague. Actually it seems really vague! Looks like a charter service. Vague is not the word. Sketchy is!
March 13, 200916 yr http://www.flytaz.com/ anyone have any new info on this? those schedules look pretty sweet to me! The website looks like something an 8 year old could design---This has got to be a joke.
March 29, 200916 yr Fliers flock back to CVG By James Pilcher • [email protected] • March 29, 2009 For seven years, Moira Alter has flown at least twice a year to see her sister in Denver. She's always used airports in Dayton or Indianapolis - never Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport, known nationwide for its record-high fares. Until now. Friday, the 26-year-old downtown resident finally flew out of CVG, on a Delta Air Lines ticket that made the change worthwhile. "It saves me 50 to 100 miles worth of driving," Alter said before her trip. "And I've already booked two more trips for later this year." In the weeks since they began, reduced fares for Delta flights in Cincinnati may be pulling fliers back from other airports. Preliminary passenger counts indicate that the number of local residents using CVG ticked up slightly in February over January, in the first month since Delta cut fares on Feb. 6. Average daily local passengers climbed 9 percent to 4,723, even though February is traditionally a slow flying month. Read full article here: http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20090329/BIZ01/903290307/1055/NEWS
March 29, 200916 yr Looks like the Delta fare cut and the triple miles bonus is working, but will it last as the economy erodes? Flight loads are significantly low all around. It would be nice to see travel for the same period of 8 years
March 29, 200916 yr I think Cincinnati can support higher usage irrespective of the economy because we basically supported service everywhere else by our car trips to avoid the prices at CVG.
April 9, 200916 yr Word on the street is DHL is making their decision on international flights tomorrow and CVG is looking to be the choice.
April 9, 200916 yr What is considered "Chicago", "New York City" and "Washington, DC"? For "Chicago" is it O'Hare or Midway? For "NYC" is it LaGuardia, Kennedy, Newark, White Plains, Stewart-Newburgh or Islip? For "DC" is it National, Dulles, or Baltimore-Washington? Seems kinda vague. Actually it seems really vague! Looks like a charter service. Vague is not the word. Sketchy is! dun-dun-dun: http://ohiostadiums.net/air/ anyone care to make some phone calls??? May 4th is really soon....
April 10, 200916 yr ^^ Ohiostadiums.net? Couldn't they afford tazairways, tazair or something outside of "ohiostadiums.com"? It still feels very "virtual airline" like. Although at least they're listing company policies now so maybe they're just super cheap. I wish nothing but good luck to them (CO tried CLE-ISP a few years back with an ERJ but had little success, but those ops were done to stave of a threat that SW would expand to new destinations at CLE.). An ERJ to Islip still isn't really gonna be the engine to pull pax numbers up from Delta's continual drawdown of their CVG ops. Every bit helps I suppose, but this isn't exactly an announcement like a Southwest or Jetblue is coming to town.
April 10, 200916 yr ^^ Ohiostadiums.net? Couldn't they afford tazairways, tazair or something outside of "ohiostadiums.com"? It still feels very "virtual airline" like. Although at least they're listing company policies now so maybe they're just super cheap. I wish nothing but good luck to them (CO tried CLE-ISP a few years back with an ERJ but had little success, but those ops were done to stave of a threat that SW would expand to new destinations at CLE.). An ERJ to Islip still isn't really gonna be the engine to pull pax numbers up from Delta's continual drawdown of their CVG ops. Every bit helps I suppose, but this isn't exactly an announcement like a Southwest or Jetblue is coming to town. Flights will be on E-145's. Sounds like Independence Air II. How long with this be around with air bookings in the toilet? Also they aren't even flying to NYC, they are flying to Islip! Ridiculous!
April 17, 200916 yr DHL will move back to CVG Business Courier of Cincinnati, April 17, 2009 DHL Express is moving its U.S. air cargo and package sorting operations back to the Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport, the company confirmed Friday. As first reported by the Business Courier last month, the move will create about 830 jobs – 180 full-time, 650 part-time – at a DHL sorting facility in Boone County that’s been mothballed for the past four years. Those new positions will be in addition to about 200 existing jobs, mostly in back-office operations, that DHL has kept there since it relocated its sorting operations to Wilmington in 2005. According to DHL spokesman Jonathan Baker in Plantation, Fla., the transition from the Wilmington Air Park to CVG should be completed by mid- to late summer. Air cargo operations will continue to be handled under existing contracts with ABX Air Inc. and Astar Air Cargo. Those contracts run through August 2010 and December 2019, respectively, Baker said. Read full article with link.
May 19, 200916 yr CVG picks new director The Kenton County Airport Board has named the former director of Cleveland's airport system as the new aviation director and top executive at the Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport. John C. Mok, 59, replaces Bob Holscher, who died suddenly last October after 33 years on the job. "I remember sitting in the board room as we were interviewing him and thinking 'we're done,' " said airport board chairman Lawson Walker II. "It doesn't matter where he came in on the list from the consultants ... when we got to him, there was no question he was the guy for us." Mok was not available for comment, but is expected at an introductory press conference Tuesday morning at the airport. He most recently has worked as director of airport planning for the aviation firm Parsons Transportation Group. He also served as a vice president of planning for the Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport and head of strategic planning for the Hong Kong Airport Authority prior to running Cleveland's two city-owned airports between 2002-2006. Read full article here: http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20090518/BIZ01/905190331/1055/NEWS/CVG+picks+new+director
June 10, 200916 yr Deal clears way for DHL's return to CVG By Amanda Van Benschoten • [email protected] • June 9, 2009 Boone County Fiscal Court on Tuesday approved a $1.87 million tax incentive package for DHL Express, clearing the way for the company’s return to Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport. Director of Hub Development Michael Schmitt said DHL will begin flying planes out of CVG in late July. He said the company has already hired 600 of the planned 833 new employees, and it plans to hire the rest within the next few weeks. The tax incentives call for 187 new full-time jobs with an average salary of $41,440, and 646 new part-time jobs with an average salary of $15,000. Read full article here: http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20090609/NEWS0103/306090088/1055/NEWS/Deal+clears+way+for+DHL+s+return+to+CVG
July 10, 200915 yr Airport plan can’t have Delta nucleus Business Courier of Cincinnati - by Doug Bolton It’s time for Cincinnati to develop a new business plan for the Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport; and, once and for all, it shouldn’t be based on Delta and its homegrown Comair subsidiary. In the new economic era of 2010 and beyond, it probably doesn’t matter whether Delta considers Cincinnati a “fortress hub,” a “hub” or a “focus city.” It’s obvious that convenience can no longer be a buzzword, either, but perhaps price – the only good news from the airport this year – should be. The bottom-line goal: Keep us from becoming Pittsburgh, which appears to be where our airport is headed. No longer does it make sense to sit on “hope island,” encouraging old-man Delta and its 5,000 local employees – a number that’s sure to continue to decline – to spare us any further pain. In the ultimate slap in the face, Delta CEO Richard Anderson delivered news to our region’s chambers on July 2 that more flights will be cut this fall at the Boone County airport. That was his response to a recent letter organized by the chambers and signed by dozens of local executives pleading that direct flights to London and Frankfurt, already scheduled to end this fall, be spared to at least twice weekly. Read full article here: http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2009/07/13/editorial1.html
July 16, 200915 yr With DHL move, Astar unit adds office, NKY jobs More than a year after DHL shocked Clinton County with an announcement that it was taking its package-delivery business elsewhere, the dreaded day is almost upon it. The German-owned parcel service is scheduled to relocate its hub from the Wilmington Air Park to Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport in Boone County by the end of the month. It and its suppliers will take hundreds of jobs along. Astar Air Cargo leased 34,000 square feet of office space at the Turfway Ridge office complex in Florence last month. It will house its executive team and office operations. The lease was valued at $4.2 million, according to Colliers Turley Martin Tucker, which represented Astar. The Florida-based air cargo service is 49 percent owned by DHL and will continue to provide air lift services to DHL under a contract that runs until 2019. Wilmington-based ABX Air, a subsidiary of Air Transport Services Group Inc., also will provide air cargo services in Boone County under a contract with DHL that runs through August 2010. Read full article here: http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2009/07/13/daily26.html
August 7, 200915 yr Didn't see this one posted. I don't think it has anything to do with Cincinnati, just this lousy economy and poor industry dynamics. Cincinnati hub is shrinking Delta is cutting flights in Cincinnati by 17 percent in the fall By Kelly Yamanouchi The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Delta’s Cincinnati hub is less than half the size it was four years ago, one of the company’s most dramatic areas of cuts. A major question in the merger was whether it would cut a hub from its combined network, which now includes Delta’s hubs in Atlanta, New York, Salt Lake City and Cincinnati and Northwest’s hubs in Minneapolis-St. Paul, Detroit and Memphis. With its larger presence, Atlanta-based Delta is now a key economic force in more cities around the country. That means that the strategic decisions Delta’s executives make at their headquarters near Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport are being scrutinized by more civic leaders, travelers and companies all over, who depend on Delta flights for business trips and vacations, to boost tourism and to attract corporate headquarters. And Cincinnati is not going quietly. The Cincinnati USA Regional Chamber launched an effort to keep its Delta flights to London and Frankfurt, which Delta plans to cut this fall. Delta worked hard to gain support for the merger by pledging not to eliminate hubs or lay off front-line employees as a result of the deal. Now as the company cuts flights amid the recession, that amounts to growing pressure to balance maintaining its service while cutting costs. Read full article here: http://www.ajc.com/business/cincinnati-hub-is-105747.html
August 10, 200915 yr Cincinnati struggles to keep Delta hub City fears flight cuts will hurt its ability to lure businesses Sunday, August 9, 2009 By Kelly Yamanouchi While Delta has grown into the largest airline in the world through its merger with Northwest, its presence at one of its longtime hubs has been shrinking rapidly. Delta's Cincinnati hub is less than half the size it was four years ago, one of the company's most dramatic areas of cuts. A major question in the merger was whether it would cut a hub from its combined network, which now consists of Delta's hubs in Atlanta, New York, Salt Lake City and Cincinnati and Northwest's hubs in Minneapolis-St. Paul, Detroit and Memphis, Tenn. With its larger presence, Atlanta-based Delta is now a key economic force in more cities across the country. That means that the strategic decisions Delta's executives make at their headquarters near Atlanta's Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport are being scrutinized by more civic leaders, travelers and companies all over who depend on Delta flights to boost tourism, to go on business trips and vacations, and to attract corporate headquarters. And Cincinnati is not going quietly. The Cincinnati USA Regional Chamber launched an effort to keep its Delta flights to London and Frankfurt, Germany, which Delta plans to cut this fall. Delta worked hard to gain support for the merger by pledging not to eliminate hubs or lay off front-line employees as a result of the deal. Now, as the company cuts flights amid the recession, that amounts to growing pressure to balance maintaining its service while cutting costs. Read full article here: http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/business/stories/2009/08/09/delta_cox.ART_ART_08-09-09_D1_MJEN8D2.html
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