November 30, 201113 yr Hub changes hit Cincinnati hard http://www.ajc.com/business/hub-changes-hit-cincinnati-1241765.html "Delta Air Lines’ largest hub in Atlanta and its smallest hub in Cincinnati tell two different stories of the turbulent economy."
December 9, 201113 yr The underground tunnel between Terminal 3 and Concourse A is under construction. I don't know for sure but I'd assume this is related to the ongoing work to reopen Concourse A.
December 14, 201113 yr Fares are 2nd highest in the nation. http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20111214/BIZ/312140098/CVG-airfare-2nd-highest-nation?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE Thanks a bunch Delta! “All truly great thoughts are conceived while walking.” -Friedrich Nietzsche
December 17, 201113 yr Saw some info this week that appears to show Apple Vacations codeshare with Frontier Airlines to have flights to Cancun and Punta Cana from Cincinnati. These would most likely be seasonal if they get off the ground. Hopefully the final details are announced soon....if they indeed happen.
December 18, 201113 yr Saw some info this week that appears to show Apple Vacations codeshare with Frontier Airlines to have flights to Cancun and Punta Cana from Cincinnati. These would most likely be seasonal if they get off the ground. Hopefully the final details are announced soon....if they indeed happen. I think they are taking the slots from USA3000. I heard today that they have pulled out of CVG.
December 19, 201113 yr Saw some info this week that appears to show Apple Vacations codeshare with Frontier Airlines to have flights to Cancun and Punta Cana from Cincinnati. These would most likely be seasonal if they get off the ground. Hopefully the final details are announced soon....if they indeed happen. I think they are taking the slots from USA3000. I heard today that they have pulled out of CVG. It's not just CVG, they are ceasing their business totally on Jan. 30th.
December 20, 201113 yr Not surprised. USA3000 and its ilk base their entire business model on discretionary travel. Economy tanks, peoples' disposable income dries up, no more vacations to Mexico or DR. And the USA3000 type has no business traveler to fall back on.
December 21, 201113 yr CVG in 2012: Year of transition 7:59 PM, Dec. 20, 2011 Written by Amanda Van Benschoten HEBRON — The new year will be one of major transition for the Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport, and its 2012 operating budget reflects an agency trying to position itself for the future. The $107.9 million budget adopted this week includes cuts to recurring costs, lower landing fees for airlines, and some short-term investments in areas that officials hope result in long-term growth to air service and revenue. “We’re on the right track,” Michael Robinson, chairman of the Kenton County Airport Board, said Tuesday. “We can’t just keep waiting. We have to be proactive, and I think that’s what we’re doing.” “All truly great thoughts are conceived while walking.” -Friedrich Nietzsche
December 23, 201113 yr http://boonecounty.fox19.com/news/business/83400-mexican-tourist-service-cvg-changes-apple-vacations
January 27, 201213 yr DHL plans $47M Cincinnati airport expansion Business Courier by Ed Green, News integration editor Date: Thursday, January 26, 2012, 2:13pm EST - Last Modified: Thursday, January 26, 2012, 4:24pm EST Shipping giant DHL Express USA Inc. is planning a large expansion that would add more than 280 workers to its air-hub operations at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport. http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2012/01/26/dhl-plans-47m-cincinnati-airport.html
January 27, 201213 yr ^ Must be to handle all that cocaine! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/26/un-cocaine-shipment-16-kilograms_n_1235470.html Browne said there was no name or address on the shipment sent from Mexico City through Cincinnati.
February 7, 201213 yr What do you all think of my idea...airport officials should pay local musicians to perform at CVG. Details here: http://www.urbancincy.com/2012/01/airport-officials-should-pay-local-artists-to-fill-cvg-with-music/.
February 8, 201213 yr I think it'd give a unique experience to a major international airport. Love the idea. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 8, 201213 yr What do you all think of my idea...airport officials should pay local musicians to perform at CVG. Details here: http://www.urbancincy.com/2012/01/airport-officials-should-pay-local-artists-to-fill-cvg-with-music/. When I was in Costa Rica, there was a man playing a saxiphone in one end of the terminal, a piano player at the other end, and a man playing guitar in the center. It definitely made for a pleasant experience, especially compared to other airports that constantly bombard you with announcements and other stressful and annoying sounds (SLC is particularly bad at this). I'd definitely support placing musicians at the airport, but I think we should encourage them in our neighborhoods and Downtown as well.
February 9, 201213 yr I think it'd give a unique experience to a major international airport. Love the idea. I get the gist of your comment, and I agree that it would help make the airport a nicer place, but it's worth mentioning this isn't a unique idea at all. Nashville was probably the forerunner at least a decade ago - they have daily lunchtime concerts by local musicians trying to make it in the business. I was also just at Puerto Plata airport in the Dominican Republic, and they had a three-piece band playing Dominican/Caribbean music as you walked to customs. In other words, it's being done all over.
February 9, 201213 yr Already done..... UAL, AA, TWA all had piano bar lounges on their 747/DC-10/L1011 aircraft back in the early '70's. Prior to deregulation these aircraft always had alot of empty seats anyway. By the late '70's with the increase demand in air travel, the entertainment gave way to revenue and the seats were put back in. The piano's were aluminum I think......, I seem to recall that one carrier used wurlizer organs.
February 10, 201213 yr Ah, when I watch '70s movies they always show that area near the front of the airliner with an open space for entertainers and the spiral steps leading up to the "VIP Lounge". I've never gotten to ride on a plane like that!
February 13, 201213 yr New Service from Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport (CVG) http://finance.yahoo.com/news/US-Airways-Connect-Customers-prnews-2940004571.html?x=0 US Airways' wholly owned subsidiary PSA Airlines will operate daily service to Cincinnati on 50-passenger Canadair Regional Jet (CRJ 200) aircraft. Flight 2487 starts May 2. All other flights begin May 3. The flight schedule is as follows: To Reagan National (DCA) Flight Departure Arrival 2490 6:00 a.m. 7:44 a.m. 2492 12:40 p.m. 2:24 p.m. 2496* 5:50 p.m. 7:54 p.m. From Reagan National (DCA) Flight Departure Arrival 2491 10:10 a.m. 12:00 p.m. 2495* 3:30 p.m. 5:20 p.m. 2487 9:05 p.m. 10:55 p.m.
February 13, 201213 yr This has probably been said elsewhere in the forum, but I love flying into DCA. When I used to go for conferences at the convention center, and if I carried my bag on, I could be from the plane to my hotel at Chinatown/Gallery Place in a half an hour. I think it's the gold standard for public transit at an airport.
February 13, 201213 yr Interested as to why US added these flights to CVG. Anyone know of any governement contract or business relocation that could have fueled this? I suppose it will be good for connections as well though. DCA is also one of my favorite airports...it's small enough to be really convenient, but big enough that there are frequent flights to lots of places. The Metro access is excellent and possibly the easiest transfer onto public transit of any airport in the US. Unfortunately because the traffic there is heavily business and gov't-related, the fares are quite high which is why most DC-area leisure pax end up out at BWI. Also, DCA has a perimeter rule so there are few flights to the west coast and hardly anything international excpet for YUL & YYZ.
February 13, 201213 yr This has probably been said elsewhere in the forum, but I love flying into DCA. When I used to go for conferences at the convention center, and if I carried my bag on, I could be from the plane to my hotel at Chinatown/Gallery Place in a half an hour. I think it's the gold standard for public transit at an airport. And if you sit on the right side of the plane, flying out is awesome as well!
February 13, 201213 yr What do you all think of my idea...airport officials should pay local musicians to perform at CVG. Details here: http://www.urbancincy.com/2012/01/airport-officials-should-pay-local-artists-to-fill-cvg-with-music/. Maybe a better way would be to allow them to work for tips? There's a little bit of street theatre going on at NOTL. I've been to a wonderful little town where the street theatre was so good that it actually attracted people to the square, and all the artists worked for tips.
February 14, 201213 yr Interested as to why US added these flights to CVG. Anyone know of any governement contract or business relocation that could have fueled this? I suppose it will be good for connections as well though. DCA is also one of my favorite airports...it's small enough to be really convenient, but big enough that there are frequent flights to lots of places. The Metro access is excellent and possibly the easiest transfer onto public transit of any airport in the US. Unfortunately because the traffic there is heavily business and gov't-related, the fares are quite high which is why most DC-area leisure pax end up out at BWI. Also, DCA has a perimeter rule so there are few flights to the west coast and hardly anything international excpet for YUL & YYZ. I believe US and Delta are doing a slot swap at LGA & DCA. Delta is taking over LGA from US and vice versa. Hence, I believe Delta will reduce service from CVG-DCA and possibly increase CVG-LGA.
February 15, 201213 yr What do you all think of my idea...airport officials should pay local musicians to perform at CVG. Details here: http://www.urbancincy.com/2012/01/airport-officials-should-pay-local-artists-to-fill-cvg-with-music/. Maybe a better way would be to allow them to work for tips? There's a little bit of street theatre going on at NOTL. I've been to a wonderful little town where the street theatre was so good that it actually attracted people to the square, and all the artists worked for tips. Many people confuse street performers working for tips as bums. If you want to avoid this false perception, and create a non-invasive welcome, while also guaranteeing payment for these musicians, you should just pay them outright.
February 22, 201213 yr Opening of the newly revovated A Concourse is set for May 15th. Terminal 2 will be even more cramped with the 3 added DCA daily flights for about two weeks before the move to A is complete.
March 9, 201213 yr Some quick CVG updates on the Delta side: Las Vegas and San Francisco go down to 1 daily for the summer schedule...kind of concerning since this is typically a higher traffic season. San Diego will end 9/2/2012...this route was chopped but came back last year and apparently is going again. I really thought CVG had really been trimemd to the bone, but apparently this fuel spike is forcing further cuts. Also concerning is that DL will end MEM-AMS...a route often compared to CVG-CDG, as it's that station's only wideboy international flight. Fingers crossed that CDG stays around here in Cincy....
March 14, 201213 yr DHL adding 280 jobs at CVG Business Courier Date: Wednesday, March 14, 2012, 7:27am EDT A major expansion at the Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport starts Wednesday morning, wcpo.com reported. DHL is adding 280 jobs and investing $47 million in a new sorting facility at its CVG hub. The project will create a nearly 200,000-square-foot sorting facility. http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/morning_call/2012/03/dhl-adding-280-jobs-at-cvg.html
March 14, 201213 yr And today's Enquirer Guest Column: DHL 'superhub' our global connection Stephen Fenwick, CEO for DHL Express Americas Leipzig’s got one, Hong Kong’s got one, and Cincinnati does, too. Cincinnati completes the trio of so-called “super hubs” – the backbone of the DHL global logistics network. So what makes the hub at CVG a super one? Location, location, location. Cincinnati is only a one-hour flight to two-thirds of the entire U.S. population. From here, DHL connects to every part of the country, as well as to Canada and Latin America. Cincinnati also has daily direct connections to Europe, the Middle East and Asia. And that’s just the beginning. Cont "It's just fate, as usual, keeping its bargain and screwing us in the fine print..." - John Crichton
March 15, 201213 yr Looks like this summer, June/July/August, Delta will fly CVG-Cancun 1x weekly on Saturday using an MD-88.
March 16, 201213 yr ^Direct European flights could stand to be restocked a bit, I realize it's not 2001 anymore, but it's not good that CVG is damn near strictly national at this point. Combine that with the Delta monopoly status quo and you get one of the most poorly managed, nepotistic airports anyone could imagine.
March 16, 201213 yr CVG airport eyes London service By Dan Monk The Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport is negotiating with a charter company to establish twice-weekly flights to London this summer. The seasonal service could start by June and run through September, targeting primarily leisure travelers, according to sources who have been briefed on the plans. Meghan Glynn, vice president of external relations for the airport known as CVG, declined to confirm the talks, citing confidentiality concerns. But she also described London as “a recurring ask” among business and leisure travelers who use CVG. “All truly great thoughts are conceived while walking.” -Friedrich Nietzsche
March 16, 201213 yr well that's very interesting! Sun Country did this from MSP the last two summers and I believe it was pretty successful, so they might be the ones behind this. A summer charter that's only 2x per week does nothing for the business traveller, however.
March 19, 201213 yr Terminal Sickness How a thirty-year-old policy of deregulation is slowly killing America’s airline system—and taking down Cincinnati, Memphis, and St. Louis with it. It was certainly one of the hardest choices that I’ve ever made,” explained Fernando Aguirre. He’d raised his family and built his career in Cincinnati, Ohio, rising through the ranks of the city’s business elite, first as an executive at Procter & Gamble’s headquarters and later as CEO and chairman of Chiquita Brands International. Along the way, he became a fanatical fan and part owner of the Cincinnati Reds baseball team, as well as a proud sponsor of the Chiquita Classic golf tournament, the proceeds from which he poured into local philanthropies. But last fall, Aguirre confirmed Cincinnati’s worst fears by announcing that he and his company were—very reluctantly—skipping town, and for a reason that cast an even deeper shadow over the city’s economic future. Cincinnati has long been (and for now remains) a major business center, the headquarters of six Fortune 500 companies and fifteen Fortune 1000 companies, including not just household-name producers like Procter & Gamble and Chiquita but also retail giants like Macy’s and the Kroger grocery chain. With a population of 2.1 million, it’s the twenty-seventh-largest metro area in the United States. But running a national, much less international, business out of Cincinnati is becoming more and more problematic for a simple reason: inadequate air service. It's a long article, but worth reading.
March 29, 201213 yr CVG adding service to Caribbean, Mexico vacation spots http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2012/03/29/cvg-adding-service-to-caribbean.html Vacation Express is starting seasonal nonstop flights to Caribbean and Mexico destinations from Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport. The seasonal service runs May 25 through Oct. 29. Service from CVG will include seven-night packages to Punta Cana, Cancun and Jamaica. Flights will be operated by Canadian carrier Sunwing -- who I bet is also behind the possible London flights...they do lots of Canada-Europe stuff.
April 6, 201213 yr Opening of the newly revovated A Concourse is set for May 15th. Terminal 2 will be even more cramped with the 3 added DCA daily flights for about two weeks before the move to A is complete. Currently, the tunnel from Terminal 3 to Concourse B is closed to pedestrians for renovations, and both trains are running. I assume both trains will remain in operation after Concourse B reopens. The airport is going to seem much busier once all passengers are using the same security checkpoints, baggage claims, etc.
April 26, 201213 yr Looking for Volunteers** CVG is looking for a few volunteers to help simulate the passenger experience and provide feedback as we put the final touches on Concourse A and Terminal 3. The volunteers will be asked to help us simulate the travel of a typical passenger to and through Terminal 3 and Concourse A; from parking to check-in at the ticketing counter to check in at the boarding gate. After checking in at the gate volunteers will return to Terminal 3 as an arriving passenger. The time commitment is minimal (only a couple hours) and volunteers will have the opportunity to see the new facilities before the general public while helping the Airport identify any areas of concern to ensure a smooth reactivation of Concourse A. Responsibilities of volunteers: Be available for to participate in simulations on May 8th or May 9th Treat this as you would any trip through CVG. Be prepared to provide feedback on ticketing, customer experience and directional signage. Yes, we are going to make you find your way to the new restroom facilities so you can experience our new fixtures and upgraded appearance. If you are interested in volunteering please provide your full name, date of birth and availability on May 8th or May 9th to Adam Kressler ([email protected] or 859-767-4710) by May 1st. **Volunteers will be selected on availability and need.
April 27, 201213 yr also announced today that Vision will operate CVG - Myrtle Beach this summer. should be nice for families.
April 27, 201213 yr some early pictures of the new terminal rennovation at CVG: http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20120426/BIZ/304270034/Exclusive-look-CVG-s-36-5-million-Concourse-A?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|s no pics of the restrooms though, which is where I hear they really splurged
April 30, 201213 yr Numerous links are imbedded in the original press release at: http://www.bts.gov/press_releases/2012/bts021_12/html/bts021_12.html BTS Releases 4th-Quarter 2011 Air Fare Data 4th-Quarter Domestic Air Fares Rose 10% from 4th Quarter 2010 Top 100 Airports: Highest Fares at Cincinnati, Lowest Fares at Atlantic City Domestic Air FaresAverage domestic air fares rose to $368 in the fourth quarter of 2011, up 10 percent from the average fare of $335 in the fourth quarter of 2010 (Table 1), the U.S. Department of Transportation’s Bureau of Transportation Statistics (BTS) reported today. Cincinnati had the highest average fare, $502, while Atlantic City, NJ, had the lowest, $189 (Table 3). Fourth-quarter fares increased 2.1 percent from the third quarter (Table 2). Quarter-to-quarter changes may be affected by seasonal factors. BTS, a part of the Research and Innovative Technology Administration, reports average fares based on domestic itinerary fares. Itinerary fares consist of round-trip fares unless the customer does not purchase a return trip. In that case, the one-way fare is included. Fares are based on the total ticket value which consists of the price charged by the airlines plus any additional taxes and fees levied by an outside entity at the time of purchase. Fares include only the price paid at the time of the ticket purchase and do not include other fees, such as baggage fees, paid at the airport or onboard the aircraft. Averages do not include frequent-flyer or “zero fares” or a few abnormally high reported fares. When not adjusted for inflation, the $368 fourth-quarter 2011 average fares were up 6.6 percent from the previous fourth-quarter high of $345 in 2008. Unadjusted fourth-quarter fares dropped to $320 in 2009 during the recession. Fourth-quarter 2011 fares were up 15.2 percent from 2009, not adjusted for inflation. They were also up 23.9 percent from the post 9/11 low of $297 in 2004 (Table 6). Fourth-quarter 2011 fares, not adjusted for inflation, were the second highest of any quarter, exceeded only by the high of $370 in the second quarter of 2011. Adjusted for inflation, fourth-quarter 2011 fares in 1995 dollars were $251, down 16.3 percent from the fourth quarter of 2000, which, at $300, was the inflation-adjusted high for any fourth quarter since 1995 (Table 1). BTS air fare records begin in 1995. See BTS Air Fare web page for historic data. Average fares for the full year in 2011 were the highest on record at $364, up 8.3 percent from 2010. The 2011 fares were up 5.2 percent from 2008, which at $346 was previously the highest year on record since 1995, not adjusted for inflation. Adjusting for inflation in 1995 dollars, fares in 2011 averaged $247, up 4.9 percent from 2010 but down 17.6 percent from the inflation-adjusted high of $300 in 2000. See Annual Fares . Passenger airlines collected 71.4 percent of their total revenue from passenger fares during the third quarter of 2011, the most recent quarter available (Table 1A). Air fares in the fourth quarter of 2011 increased 8.3 percent from the fourth quarter of 2000, not adjusted for inflation, compared to an overall increase in consumer prices of 29.7 percent during that period. In the 16 years from 1995, the first year of BTS air fare records, air fares rose 28 percent compared to a 47 percent inflation rate (Table 6). The average inflation-adjusted fourth-quarter 2011 fare in 1995 dollars was $251 compared to $288 in 1995 and $300 in 2000 (Table 1). See Tables 3-5 for data about the top 100 airports based on 2010 originating passengers. Table 3: Five highest and five lowest average fares in the fourth quarter: Cincinnati, a market with a high representation of business travelers, had the highest average fare, $502, while Atlantic City, a leisure-dominated market, had the lowest, $189. For the Top 100 Airports, see Table 8 on the BTS website. Table 4: Five largest increases and five largest decreases from the fourth quarter of 2010 to the fourth quarter of 2011: Fort Myers, FL, had the largest increase, 26.4 percent, and Charleston, SC, had the largest decrease, 8.3 percent. For the Top 100 Airports, see Table 9 on the BTS website. Table 5: Five largest increases and five largest decreases from the fourth quarter of 2000 to the fourth quarter of 2011: Burbank/Glendale/Pasadena, CA, had the largest increase, 59.1 percent, and White Plains, NY, had the largest decrease, 34.9 percent. For the Top 100 Airports, see Table 10 on the BTS website. For additional data, see Top 100 Airports , Rankings or All Airports . Since average fares are based on the Origin and Destination Survey 10 percent ticket sample, averages for airports with smaller samples may be less reliable. Fares for Alaska, Hawaii and Puerto Rico airports are not included in rankings but are available on the web page. First-quarter 2012 average fare data will be released on July 26. Table 1: 4th Quarter Average Fares 1995-2011 Compared to Inflation Rate Fares based on domestic itinerary fares. Itinerary fares consist of round-trip fares unless the customer does not purchase a return trip. In that case, the one-way fare is included. Fares are based on the total ticket value which consists of the price charged by the airlines plus any additional taxes and fees levied by an outside entity at the time of purchase. Fares include only the price paid at the time of the ticket purchase and do not include other fees, such as baggage fees, paid at the airport or onboard the aircraft. Averages do not include frequent-flyer or “zero fares” or a few abnormally high reported fares. Average Domestic 4Q Fares ($) Percent change from previous year Percent change from 1995 Average Fares (4Q to 4Q) Inflation (Dec from previous Dec)* Cumulative Average Fares (4Q 1995 to 4Q of each year) Cumulative inflation rate (Dec of each year from Dec 1995)* Average Fare in 1995 dollars 1995 288 288 1996 278 -3.3 3.3 -3.3 3.3 269 1997 294 5.5 1.7 2.0 5.1 279 1998 316 7.7 1.6 9.9 6.8 296 1999 318 0.6 2.7 10.5 9.6 290 2000 340 7.0 3.4 18.2 13.4 300 2001 300 -11.8 1.6 4.2 15.1 260 2002 309 3.0 2.4 7.3 17.9 262 2003 316 2.2 1.9 9.7 20.1 263 2004 297 -5.9 3.3 3.3 24.0 240 2005 315 5.9 3.4 9.4 28.2 246 2006 318 1.1 2.5 10.6 31.5 242 2007 330 3.6 4.1 14.6 36.8 241 2008 345 4.7 0.1 20.0 37.0 252 2009 320 -7.4 2.7 11.1 40.7 227 2010 335 4.7 1.5 16.3 42.8 234 2011 368 10.0 3.0 28.0 47.0 251 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 30, 201213 yr Agreed. Really frustrating to see Cincinnati back on top again. I have been noticing that Delta is slowly starting to reneg on its fare drops a few months ago. A simple CVG-NYC itinierary in a few months is $450, but is $230 from Dayton and $300 from Columbus.
May 1, 201213 yr The United Airlines "you have to fly us regularly if you want to keep your hub" pressure on us Cleveland is high right now - and the fares are showing it... CLE is #11 on this list. Our NYC fares are easily in that $450-$500 range a month or so out - and I recently check BOS flight 6-8 weeks out and the cheapeast non-stop was $1050 on any airline. I could go right down the road to Akron/Canton and it was $175 nonstop... If I wanted to drive a bit longer to PIT, it was $150. Airlines are crazy... We always felt for CVG due to Delta stronghold - but now we're feeling the $ pain exactly like CVG
May 1, 201213 yr Agreed. Really frustrating to see Cincinnati back on top again. I have been noticing that Delta is slowly starting to reneg on its fare drops a few months ago. A simple CVG-NYC itinierary in a few months is $450, but is $230 from Dayton and $300 from Columbus. Yeah. It was bad enough in the past when CVG was a real hub. At least then we had great flight options. Now we're the highest priced airline in the country AND we have to connect through ATL and SLC to get anywhere. I'd give anything for another airline to significantly beef up its presence at CVG.
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