February 23, 20187 yr Delta adds more capacity at CVG to 13 destinations on Saturdays Delta Air Lines is adding more flights to destinations it serves at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport on Saturdays. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/02/22/delta-adds-more-capacity-at-cvg-to-13-destinations.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 23, 20187 yr Low-cost international airline adds another CVG departure before its first flight Wow Air, the latest ultra-low-cost airline to announce service from Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport, is adding an additional flight before it even celebrates its first takeoff. The Iceland-based carrier is increasing its service from four days a week to five days a week during the summer travel season with a new departure at 12:50 a.m. on Wednesdays available June 4 to Sept. 17. “The reception from Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky travelers for our flight service has been phenomenal since we announced the route last summer. Because of the strong demand, we have decided to increase our service from four to five days during the summer. We look forward to bringing affordable international travel to CVG,” Wow Air CEO and founder Skúli Mogensen said in a statement. Cont "It's just fate, as usual, keeping its bargain and screwing us in the fine print..." - John Crichton
February 23, 20187 yr Why Southwest picked Denver as its next nonstop flight from CVG Earlier this month, Southwest Airlines announced it was adding another year-round nonstop destination to the two it already serves from Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/02/23/why-southwest-picked-denver-as-its-next-nonstop.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
March 7, 20187 yr Why Southwest picked Denver as its next nonstop flight from CVG Earlier this month, Southwest Airlines announced it was adding another year-round nonstop destination to the two it already serves from Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/02/23/why-southwest-picked-denver-as-its-next-nonstop.html What was the reason? (For us non-subs)
March 7, 20187 yr There were a lot of business travelers that connected from Chicago with a final destination in Denver. THat is pretty much the gist of it.
March 8, 20187 yr Southwest launches seasonal CVG flight today Southwest Airlines will launch a seasonal flight from Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport today. The low-cost airline will begin service from CVG to Phoenix this afternoon with a baseball-themed ribbon cutting featuring a visit from Cincinnati Reds mascots Mr. Redlegs and Gapper. The seasonal flight to Sky Harbor Airport will continue through April 7 in conjunction with Reds Spring Training in Goodyear, Ariz. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/03/08/southwest-launches-seasonal-cvg-flight-today.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
March 9, 20187 yr Southwest is No. 1 in the markets it serves from CVG Southwest Airlines ranks first in the number of passengers it carries between Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport and the first two markets it serves from CVG – Chicago and the Washington, D.C.-Baltimore area – according to federal transportation data. https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/03/08/southwest-is-no-1-in-the-markets-it-serves-from.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
April 5, 20187 yr CVG’s newest low-cost flight launches today The newest flight from an ultra-low-cost carrier at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport will launch today. Allegiant Airlines will begin service from CVG to Charleston, S.C., with fares as low as $73 one way. The seasonal flight will be offered on Sundays and Thursdays and marks the airport’s only direct access to Charleston. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/04/05/cvg-s-newest-low-cost-flight-launches-today.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
April 6, 20187 yr ^This is a cool city pairing and should be a reasonably popular route even with only 2 days/week service. Charleston is gorgeous.
April 9, 20187 yr Frontier adds new CVG flights today Frontier Airlines will continue an expansion of its offerings at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky Airport today after launching three new flights over the weekend. Frontier flights to San Antonio, Texas and Raleigh-Durham, N.C., from CVG will take off for the first time today. The new destinations will be added to nonstop flights to San Jose, Calif.; Austin, Texas and Jacksonville, Fla., that the low-cost carrier launched on Sunday. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/04/09/frontier-adds-new-cvg-flights-today.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
April 9, 20187 yr How many daily departures does CVG now offer with these additions as well as Deltas?
April 13, 20187 yr CVG launches new low-cost Florida flight today A new low-cost flight from Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport will take off today. Allegiant’s first flight to Sarasota will depart from CVG at 1:16 p.m. The year-round flight joins Allegiant’s service to Charleston, S.C. that launched earlier this month. “Cincinnati travelers have truly embraced Allegiant, and we’re excited to give them more nonstop, ultra-low-cost travel options by adding our two newest destinations,” Lukas Johnson, Allegiant’s senior vice president of commercial, said when the two flights were announced in January. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/04/13/cvg-launches-new-low-cost-florida-flight-today.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
April 17, 20187 yr CVG's fare ranking ticks upward Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport’s ranking among the nation’s top 100 airports when it came to fares ticked upward in the fourth quarter of 2017. CVG was the 28th-cheapest airport in the country to fly from with an average fare of $324.44. In the third quarter, the airport was the 21st-lowest and set a modern-day low fare record at about $301. But compared to the same quarter in 2016, the average fare was down by $43. Nationwide, the average fare was $347 in the fourth quarter of 2017, so CVG was again below that figure. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/04/17/cvgs-fare-ranking-ticks-upward.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
April 23, 20187 yr Looks like CVG's cargo tonnage is around 1.2 million tons annually: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/04/23/cvg-continues-torrid-growth-pace.html That would put it even with JFK at about the 22nd busiest in the world and about #7 in the United States: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_busiest_airports_by_cargo_traffic
April 23, 20187 yr CVG is the fastest-growing major US airport. And its growth is speeding up. https://www.cincinnati.com/story/money/business/2018/04/23/cvg-keeps-growing-more-flights-passenger-traffic/541243002/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 23, 20187 yr Wow, that is an awful chart. What is the X axis even supposed to represent? It's just mind-bogglingly bad.
April 24, 20187 yr Looks like for the green bars, each tick on the x-axis is 2%. For red bars, it's 2 million passengers. It's kind of weird, but with the numbers it's comprehensible.
April 24, 20187 yr Lol. Just because it can be explained... doesn't mean it should exist in its current form. Growth rates are extremely misleading if you're trying to compare things of different sizes. For example: it wouldn't make sense to compare the "growth rate" of P&G and Rhinegeist - Rhinegeist is a lot smaller and growing a lot faster. A more honest graph would look like this:
April 24, 20187 yr Yeah... and in the Enquirer's defense, I totally get that they "need a story" to run with... and it's much more interesting to say "CVG has highest growth rate" as opposed to "Among large cities, CVG grew from a small base at a higher rate". This is common to most local business coverage. The journalists want to find an exciting angle, even if there's not much to report on.
April 24, 20187 yr I don't quite get where their numbers are coming from, actually--what is the 3.2 million figure? In 2017 they had passenger traffic of 7.8 million people (see the first story on the previous page of posts), and if they are growing by 15% then presumably they'd be on pace for somewhere around 8.7 or 8.8 million passengers.
April 25, 20187 yr I don't quite get where their numbers are coming from, actually--what is the 3.2 million figure? In 2017 they had passenger traffic of 7.8 million people (see the first story on the previous page of posts), and if they are growing by 15% then presumably they'd be on pace for somewhere around 8.7 or 8.8 million passengers. Good point/question. I think it's probably a discrepancy between "enplaned" (passengers whose trips originate at CVG) versus total passengers served (includes passengers who land at CVG). The articles aren't very clear and don't specify.
April 26, 20187 yr The numbers provided in the graph are enplaned pax (the number of passengers that boarded a plane at CVG). The numbers you are seeing as a total are the total number of passengers that enplaned and deplaned in CVG. Not all airports report statistics the same so the numbers provided can make it easier to compare to other airports. For example, DAY only reports statistics in enplanements while CVG reports enplanements, deplanements, and totals. CMH goes a step further and reports statistics broken down by airline.
May 2, 20187 yr Delta launches new CVG flight Delta Air Lines added a new flight to its lineup at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport on Tuesday. Delta’s inaugural flight to Austin, Texas marked the debut of the company’s 36th nonstop destination from the airport. Delta (NYSE: DAL) will offer service to Austin daily except Saturdays with departures at 9:45 a.m. and arrivals at 3:44 p.m. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/05/02/delta-launches-new-cvg-flight.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
May 3, 20187 yr Late to the game here - I must have had a different email address so I get a new screen name after 13 or so years. I think the article is somewhat lazy. The numbers are indeed passengers enplaned, but they are giving the number enplaned for 2016 which is confusing. In 2017 that number was 3.9 M (which then projects to the 7.8 million for total passengers for that year). You are correct that at the current rate the airport is tracking to 8.8 million for 2018. I don't quite get where their numbers are coming from, actually--what is the 3.2 million figure? In 2017 they had passenger traffic of 7.8 million people (see the first story on the previous page of posts), and if they are growing by 15% then presumably they'd be on pace for somewhere around 8.7 or 8.8 million passengers.
May 5, 20187 yr DHL to hire 300 at CVG DHL Express is recruiting to fill 300 new positions at its Americas Hub at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport. The company is expanding its workforce and adding a new shift at CVG to accommodate the growth in demand for its international e-commerce services fueled in part by its ongoing partnership with Amazon as it prepares to build a $1.5 billion hub at CVG. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/05/04/dhl-to-hire-300-at-cvg.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
May 7, 20187 yr American Airlines moves CVG operations American Airlines is relocating its operations at the Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport. American will begin operating in Concourse B starting Tuesday, May 8. All of its flights will use gates 18, 20, 22, 24 and 26. Its ticket counter check-in and baggage service locations in the airport’s main terminal won’t be impacted. The move will allow CVG to complete a major ramp rehabilitation project on all Concourse A gates in the next two years, CVG CEO Candace McGraw said. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/05/07/american-airlines-moves-cvg-operations.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
May 9, 20187 yr International airline launches CVG service A new airline is launching international service at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport. Wow Air’s first flight from Reyjavik, Iceland will arrive at CVG at 11:50 p.m. Wednesday. The flight will include 20 journalists from seven countries who will visit Greater Cincinnati for two days to learn about its arts, culture and cuisine. Following the inaugural flight, Wow Air will operate 200-seat nonstop flights between CVG and its home city of Reykjavik on Monday, Tuesday, Thursady and Saturday. Service will increase to five times per week between June and September. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/05/09/international-airline-launches-cvg-service.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
May 31, 20187 yr http://www.cvgairport.com/docs/default-source/stats/cvg-stats-2018.pdf?sfvrsn=6 According to the spreadsheet, passengers in April were up nearly 150,000 at CVG to nearly 760,000, for an increase of 24% over last April; for the year, passengers are up over 17%. Air freight is experiencing even bigger growth--tonnage is up over 50% this year.
May 31, 20187 yr CVG sets another new record Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport set another new all-time local passenger record for the month of April, flying 343,282 passengers whose travel originated at the airport. That’s a 25 percent increase from the previous year. CVG reports that it is one of the fastest-growing airports in the United States. All carriers at CVG are experiencing year-over-year growth: *Allegiant Air’s passengers are up 60 percent. *Frontier is up 19 percent *United is up 25.5 percent *Delta is up 11 percent *American is up 2.5 percent *Southwest began flying from CVG in June of 2017, so it is not included in such data. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/05/31/cvg-sets-another-new-record.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
June 5, 20187 yr Why CVG is North America’s fastest-growing airport Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport is growing faster than any other airport in the U.S. when it comes to how many seats are available for passengers on airplanes leaving airports, according to a new report by OAG, a flight data and statistics company. CVG grew by 18 percent between May 2017 and April 2018, making it the top airport for such growth on the continent. CVG had 4.3 million seats from May 2016 through April 2017 and 5.1 million from May 2017 through April 2018. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/06/05/why-cvg-is-north-america-s-fastest-growing-airport.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
June 6, 20187 yr ^ Reasons (without bothering to read the article): 1. Growing from a small base, so smaller numbers make for greater percentages vs. larger airports. 2. Base number was made artificially low by Delta's stranglehold, from around the time of the Northwest merger to a couple years ago. Delta was still actively undercutting competitors while tenaciously shrinking operations. Travelers went to other airports in the region. 3. A corrupt airport board was jettisoned. Things would have turned around anyway, though, since Delta eased its grip. Related to number two, now Dayton's airport is on the skids. It's losing the Cincy passengers who were choosing DAY over CVG, as well as losing flights/airlines to CVG (most obviously Southwest).
June 6, 20187 yr It still amazes me that Cincy and Dayton (and honestly, Columbus as well) didn't all sit down and build a large airport to handle all three regions' needs which would have made it more useful to more people and industries, reducing its likelihood of decline, and would have been an enormous airport meaning jobs for all three regions. Then they could have created a 3 region rail system that would have both allowed people to go from their respective core city to the airport or pass through to the next city. And it's not like land east of Xenia would have been prohibitively expensive to do all this back in the day. It would have been along I-71 as well which would have provided a variety of means of access for people. It just makes so much sense. Alas, I am glad to see CVG doing well. It was always frustrating spending $500 to fly from CVG to NYC when I've flown across the entire continent for less and over to Japan for only about 50% more. Now prices are more reasonable and accessible to more people.
June 6, 20187 yr That is always true whenever an airport dehubs. You rely on one carrier for so much volume and it leaves a void which takes time to fill. You go from an over served market to an underserved market and it takes a while to get that true equilibrium. Same thing happened in Pittsburgh 20 years ago.
June 6, 20187 yr It still amazes me that Cincy and Dayton (and honestly, Columbus as well) didn't all sit down and build a large airport to handle all three regions' needs which would have made it more useful to more people and industries, reducing its likelihood of decline, and would have been an enormous airport meaning jobs for all three regions. Then they could have created a 3 region rail system that would have both allowed people to go from their respective core city to the airport or pass through to the next city. And it's not like land east of Xenia would have been prohibitively expensive to do all this back in the day. It would have been along I-71 as well which would have provided a variety of means of access for people. It just makes so much sense. Alas, I am glad to see CVG doing well. It was always frustrating spending $500 to fly from CVG to NYC when I've flown across the entire continent for less and over to Japan for only about 50% more. Now prices are more reasonable and accessible to more people. While I like the idea, an airport near Jeffersonville would be an hour and a half from downtown Cincinnati. That's quite a ways, and I'm glad I don't have to drive that far to get to the airport.
June 6, 20187 yr I was imagining somewhere slightly south of there. Equidistant between Cincy and Columbus. The reality is though that most people wouldn't be coming from Downtown, they'd be coming from the suburbs north of the city. For most travelers from Cincinnati the distance wouldn't be much different than what they're doing now and they wouldn't have to pass through Downtown to get there. For business travelers coming into the city, rail could get you there in comfort in a fairly short amount of time. I think it could work. It would likely be a bit longer for a lot of people, but at the same time the experience could have been a lot better for them if they had more options to travel, had a nicer airport with more destinations, lower prices, etc. Tradeoffs I guess.
June 6, 20187 yr I was imagining somewhere slightly south of there. Equidistant between Cincy and Columbus. The reality is though that most people wouldn't be coming from Downtown, they'd be coming from the suburbs north of the city. For most travelers from Cincinnati the distance wouldn't be much different than what they're doing now and they wouldn't have to pass through Downtown to get there. For business travelers coming into the city, rail could get you there in comfort in a fairly short amount of time. I think it could work. It would likely be a bit longer for a lot of people, but at the same time the experience could have been a lot better for them if they had more options to travel, had a nicer airport with more destinations, lower prices, etc. Tradeoffs I guess. Yea that makes sense. With the rail I would like it. Too bad we'll never have the opportunity. Rail from CVG to downtown and between the 3C's should be on the agenda though, if our state wasn't so backwards.
June 6, 20187 yr I’m not sure about the Cin-Day-Col super regional airport idea. I could see such a thing inducing a ton of sprawl, and I think the airport would not serve as great a role for the different city economies if it was so far from each of the core cities. CVG is a huge jobs producer for the Cincinnati region now, with DHL and Amazon both establishing shipping hubs there. Would that go away/ever have happened if the airport was in the middle of nowhere? DHL already tried the Wilmington experiment, and it didn’t work. They were back at CVG in a few years where they have access to more employees and better living situations.
June 6, 20187 yr Nearly all of DHL's workers are third shift and they burn through thousands of them each year. It is a miserable job -- many people are out in the weather at 4am in January loading the planes. I'd guess that they burned through every desperate character in Wilmington pretty quickly.
June 6, 20187 yr I was imagining somewhere slightly south of there. Equidistant between Cincy and Columbus. The reality is though that most people wouldn't be coming from Downtown, they'd be coming from the suburbs north of the city. For most travelers from Cincinnati the distance wouldn't be much different than what they're doing now and they wouldn't have to pass through Downtown to get there. For business travelers coming into the city, rail could get you there in comfort in a fairly short amount of time. I think it could work. It would likely be a bit longer for a lot of people, but at the same time the experience could have been a lot better for them if they had more options to travel, had a nicer airport with more destinations, lower prices, etc. Tradeoffs I guess. A Cin/Day/Lex regional airport could work. It would be at CVG. Cin/Day/Col airport to work would need to be effectively placed in Warren County near the 71 corridor, no North of Wilmington, probably closer to Lebanon to ensure the biggest success.
June 6, 20187 yr With as much confusion there is about Cincinnati's airport being 15 minutes away in NKY, I can only imagine how much confusion there would be if the main Cincinnati terminal was north of Wilmington! :)
June 6, 20187 yr Nearly all of DHL's workers are third shift and they burn through thousands of them each year. It is a miserable job -- many people are out in the weather at 4am in January loading the planes. I'd guess that they burned through every desperate character in Wilmington pretty quickly. Worked there during a winter break from college. Can confirm, it is hell.
June 6, 20187 yr Worked there during a winter break from college. Can confirm, it is hell. All of those warehouse jobs down by the airport suck but DHL could be the worst.
June 6, 20187 yr I hope Southwest eventually offers more flights from CVG in the future. Is there any know info on how their current flights are doing? Obviously the demand has to be here for them to add more flights so curious how popular they've been since they started.
June 6, 20187 yr With as much confusion there is about Cincinnati's airport being 15 minutes away in NKY, I can only imagine how much confusion there would be if the main Cincinnati terminal was north of Wilmington! :) ^This. There will never be one main airport for southern Ohio. All three markets are over a million and have their own businesses that need quick access to an airport. The only way an airport in Daytonnati would work is if it were placed in Monroe but that's too late for obvious Trader's World Jesus reasons. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
June 6, 20187 yr It still amazes me that Cincy and Dayton (and honestly, Columbus as well) didn't all sit down and build a large airport to handle all three regions' needs which would have made it more useful to more people and industries, reducing its likelihood of decline, and would have been an enormous airport meaning jobs for all three regions. Then they could have created a 3 region rail system that would have both allowed people to go from their respective core city to the airport or pass through to the next city. And it's not like land east of Xenia would have been prohibitively expensive to do all this back in the day. It would have been along I-71 as well which would have provided a variety of means of access for people. It just makes so much sense. Alas, I am glad to see CVG doing well. It was always frustrating spending $500 to fly from CVG to NYC when I've flown across the entire continent for less and over to Japan for only about 50% more. Now prices are more reasonable and accessible to more people. The idea gets suggested from time to time, but haven't there only been a few successful examples worldwide of old airport(s) being decommissioned and replaced by a new one in a different location? Denver decommissioned their old airport, which was fairly close to the city center, opened a new one much further from the city center. That made a lot of sense because (1.) Denver is one of America's fastest growing cities and their old, landlocked airport was running out of capacity, (2) the old airport site was in a prime central location, and it could easily be developed into a new urban neighborhood after it was decommissioned, and (3) there aren't any other large international airports close to Denver, so there was little risk of airlines pulling out or significantly cutting back flights in the future. Additionally, since the both the old and new airports are within Denver city limits, there was only one municipality involved. To top things off, Denver had also shown a willingness to invest in the rail transportation necessary to link the city center to the new farther-away airport. In order for a new airport to be built serving all of Southwest Ohio, you would need to get three separate, existing international airports in three separate municipalities to shut down. I doubt any of the airport boards would voluntarily agree to this. If the State of Ohio made this a priority, they might be able to force Dayton and Columbus to shut down, but I can't imagine that the Kenton County Airport Board or the State of Kentucky would ever agree to shut down CVG, especially since they are doing so well at the moment and they're effectively "leeching" revenue from Ohio. So we might end up with a situation where Cincinnati is kinda served by two international airports and there is some zero-sum poaching of airlines between them. I could see CMH being redeveloped as an urban neighborhood similar to Denver's Stapleton, but both CVG and DAY are too far from their urban core to be redeveloped into anything other than new subdivisions or big box shopping centers. And finally, I have zero faith that Ohio would build rail transit linking the new airport to Dayton, Columbus, and Cincinnati.
June 6, 20187 yr I was imagining somewhere slightly south of there. Equidistant between Cincy and Columbus. The reality is though that most people wouldn't be coming from Downtown, they'd be coming from the suburbs north of the city. For most travelers from Cincinnati the distance wouldn't be much different than what they're doing now and they wouldn't have to pass through Downtown to get there. For business travelers coming into the city, rail could get you there in comfort in a fairly short amount of time. I think it could work. It would likely be a bit longer for a lot of people, but at the same time the experience could have been a lot better for them if they had more options to travel, had a nicer airport with more destinations, lower prices, etc. Tradeoffs I guess. A Cin/Day/Lex regional airport could work. It would be at CVG. Cin/Day/Col airport to work would need to be effectively placed in Warren County near the 71 corridor, no North of Wilmington, probably closer to Lebanon to ensure the biggest success. It's over a 90 minute drive from the northern Columbus suburbs to the Lebanon 71 exit. If that's close enough for this hypothetical airport to be considered to be serving Columbus, then consider the following drive times from Port Columbus to these downtowns: Dayton: 1 h 15 m Cincinnati: 2 h Akron: 2h Cleveland: 2h 15m Toledo: 2h 25m So perhaps a better plan would be to take the billions it would take to build the new super CinDayCol airport and instead build high speed rail from Columbus to each of the corners of the state.
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