EXCLUSIVE: Allegiant Air to start flights at CVG, not Lunken

 

Low-cost carrier Allegiant Air is expected to announce Tuesday it will start flights at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport – bringing another discount airline to the region and ending a growing controversy over Allegiant’s interest in Lunken Airport, The Enquirer has learned.

 

It’s uncertain where the popular, Las Vegas-based vacation airline will fly to out of CVG, but Allegiant Air had been considering launching two flights a week to Orlando, Fla., out of Lunken. Most of Allegiant’s flights from Midwest and nearby cities – including Columbus and Lexington, Ky. – connect to Florida destinations.

 

CVG has called a 10 a.m. Tuesday press conference.

 

CVG and Allegiant officials declined comment.

 

Cont

EXCLUSIVE: Allegiant Air to start flights at CVG, not Lunken

 

Low-cost carrier Allegiant Air is expected to announce Tuesday it will start flights at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport – bringing another discount airline to the region and ending a growing controversy over Allegiant’s interest in Lunken Airport, The Enquirer has learned.

 

It’s uncertain where the popular, Las Vegas-based vacation airline will fly to out of CVG, but Allegiant Air had been considering launching two flights a week to Orlando, Fla., out of Lunken. Most of Allegiant’s flights from Midwest and nearby cities – including Columbus and Lexington, Ky. – connect to Florida destinations.

 

CVG has called a 10 a.m. Tuesday press conference.

 

CVG and Allegiant officials declined comment.

 

Cont

 

Good news. I hope ramp up quickly and are successful.

Attached is the CVG press release for the arrival of Allegiant.

ANALYSIS: Is JetBlue next at CVG?

Airport has added more routes, discount carriers

Written by Jason Williams

 

 

Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport has greeted two new discount airlines in the past five months with water-cannon salutes, balloons, beach balls and bands.

 

The arrival of Frontier Airlines and Allegiant Air is evidence the airport is making strides toward shedding its longtime reputation as having some of the nation’s highest ticket prices.

 

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20131021/BIZ/310200038/ANALYSIS-JetBlue-next-CVG-?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|p&nclick_check=1

EXCLUSIVE: CVG to add flights to Chicago Midway

Written by Jason Williams

 

Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport is getting four new roundtrip flights a week to Chicago – a top destination for business travelers.

 

Ultimate Air Shuttle plans to launch the flights to Chicago Midway International Airport starting in January. The flights will start just four months after the public charter launched service to the New York City region from CVG.

 

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20131021/BIZ/310210156/EXCLUSIVE-CVG-add-flights-Chicago-Midway?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|p

EXCLUSIVE: CVG to add flights to Chicago Midway

Written by Jason Williams

 

Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport is getting four new roundtrip flights a week to Chicago – a top destination for business travelers.

 

Ultimate Air Shuttle plans to launch the flights to Chicago Midway International Airport starting in January. The flights will start just four months after the public charter launched service to the New York City region from CVG.

 

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20131021/BIZ/310210156/EXCLUSIVE-CVG-add-flights-Chicago-Midway?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|p

 

Now this is a company who knows which side of the bread they are buttered on. They stareted out at Lunken with business aimed flights to Chicago and New York. Then they were limited by FAA rules since they declare they are a charter, not a full fledged airline. So they switched to CVG to add flights. If the continue to prosper I will predict they will declare themselves a full fledged airline and the main operation will be out of CVG. There is no reason to abandon their flights out of Lunken if profitable. But CVG will be in their sights for growth.

I agree with you kjbrill.  Once they are permitted to have more flights from a single airport, they will be out of CVG.  Also, I hope their numbers as a whole are better than what I saw today....5 inbound passengers and 2 outbound. 

I agree with you kjbrill.  Once they are permitted to have more flights from a single airport, they will be out of CVG.  Also, I hope their numbers as a whole are better than what I saw today....5 inbound passengers and 2 outbound.

 

Yes, you will starve on those kinds of numbers. I do hope they keep their heads above water, as the business community needs a less costly airline for the short trips to New York and Chicago. The major airlines like Delta have been relying far too long on their high profit business travel. There is one simple step business could take to hold down their cost of airline travel - declare any frequent flyer miles earned by travel on a business paid ticket belongs to the business. This would be perfectly legal. Combine this with a cash bonus paid on the reduced cost of travel based on airline ticket and hotel cost and I can just about guarantee an immediate reduction in business travel cost.

Sadly I've not gotten to fly ultimate air shuttle yet but when I did have to cancel a ticket it was a full refund, no questions asked, no fees, etc .  The people I work with love it from lunken as parking is free and you can be in the air 15 or 20 minutes from exiting your car.  And cheaper than equivalent commercial flights to boot, at least to Charlotte.

Sadly I've not gotten to fly ultimate air shuttle yet but when I did have to cancel a ticket it was a full refund, no questions asked, no fees, etc .  The people I work with love it from lunken as parking is free and you can be in the air 15 or 20 minutes from exiting your car.  And cheaper than equivalent commercial flights to boot, at least to Charlotte.

 

Yeah, I fly it to Charlotte often for business. I love flying out of Lunken because of how easy it is, I'd rather not mess with CVG and I'm not sure how Ultimate will do there as everyone I know would rather use it from Lunken.

 

Aside from the fares being competitive with US Airways or Delta (especially on short notice), the fact that you can fly in for a meeting, have the meeting, and fly out later that night makes it far cheaper overall than staying the night (considering hotel, meals, and rental car for an extra day).

As I undestand it Ultimate is limited in the number of flights they can operate from a given airport by the FAA due to the fact they state they are a charter rather than a regular airline. I understand operating out of CVG is strictly a maneuver to get more Cincinnati flights. If that is true I don't know why they would not just declare they are a regular airline, though I do not know what ramifications there might be in fees, etc. If anyone knows the whole skinny on this please post it here.

^I thought being charter was what allowed them to have passengers avoid the headaches of FAA security.  Most people like that they can just show up 20 minutes before the flight and hop on, right?

^I thought being charter was what allowed them to have passengers avoid the headaches of FAA security.  Most people like that they can just show up 20 minutes before the flight and hop on, right?

 

That can also have something to do with it! Avoiding security checks definitely affects boarding time. But my information says a charter is also limited in the number of flights they can operate out of a given airport, otherwise they must declare they are an airline, which to me is just common sense. I also feel Ultimate Air Shuttle has been operating as an airline, NOT a charter. Just see the ads they run in the Cincinnati area, does that sound like a charter to you? So they have been skating around the fringes of the regulations. The move to CVG is a simple expansion as they had exhausted their flight limit at Lunken. So do you really care about FAA regulations, or do you just want the cheapest flight?

Can't make up anything better,

 

CVG board votes to hire investigator for butt-dialed call

 

As first reported by The Enquirer, Huff and his wife, Bert, claim Spaw illegally recorded a phone call after Huff “unintentionally and unknowingly dialed his personal cellphone” while in Italy for an airport conference in October. Savage also was on the trip.

 

In the phone conversation, Huff and Savage discussed demoting McGraw and replacing her with Savage, according to Spaw’s attorney, Randy Freking. Savage is not part of the federal civil lawsuit.

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20131204/NEWS/312040145/CVG-board-votes-hire-investigator-butt-dialed-call?nclick_check=1

Can't make up anything better,

 

CVG board votes to hire investigator for butt-dialed call

 

As first reported by The Enquirer, Huff and his wife, Bert, claim Spaw illegally recorded a phone call after Huff “unintentionally and unknowingly dialed his personal cellphone” while in Italy for an airport conference in October. Savage also was on the trip.

 

In the phone conversation, Huff and Savage discussed demoting McGraw and replacing her with Savage, according to Spaw’s attorney, Randy Freking. Savage is not part of the federal civil lawsuit.

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20131204/NEWS/312040145/CVG-board-votes-hire-investigator-butt-dialed-call?nclick_check=1

 

And this is what we have running CVG? Any wonder why it is not resulting in any benefit for Cincinnati? Get your act together Kenton County and decide where you are there to be a Good Old Boys reservation or actually something good for the entire community.

Between this and the streetcar we sure have some doozies running the show.

Between this and the streetcar we sure have some doozies running the show.

 

You've got that right. And it's a vicious cycle, as the Good Ol' Boy policymakers prevent people with an expanded outlook from moving to the region. Keeps them in power.

 

I wonder if the regional airport would be doing any better if it were located in the northern rather than southern burbs. Would Ohioans do any better? Would better access to Dayton & Columbus matter? Or would it just be Boehner's boys running things into the ground instead of Mitch McConnell's?

 

You've got that right. And it's a vicious cycle, as the Good Ol' Boy policymakers prevent people with an expanded outlook from moving to the region. Keeps them in power.

 

I wonder if the regional airport would be doing any better if it were located in the northern rather than southern burbs. Would Ohioans do any better? Would better access to Dayton & Columbus matter? Or would it just be Boehner's boys running things into the ground instead of Mitch McConnell's?

 

If the city and regional officials keep it up, they'll be 'in power' of a place with very little power.  Cincinnati is already under 300,000 people- smaller than satellite cities of larger metro areas like Long Beach (CA), Mesa (AZ), Arlington (TX)...plenty more. The airport is a shell of its former self, and is barely competitive with Dayton and Columbus.  Sure the powers at be have an iota of power, but in the grand scheme of things, they really don't.

 

As has been discussed on here repeatedly, I think an airport in northern Hamilton County or possibly southern Butler or Warren counties would have been a huge advantage to the region.  It would draw passengers from Dayton and Cincinnati, and would have corporate support from both regions, which I would have to think would lead to a little more stability.  Kentucky is so out of the way for so many people in the region, and it has greatly contributed to the southern sprawl of Cincinnati.

I said all along.  Another airport would actually save alot of money on the Brent Spence. Although a new airport would cost 15 billion.

I said all along.  Another airport would actually save alot of money on the Brent Spence. Although a new airport would cost 15 billion.

 

I believe that is rediculous. The amount of traffic crossing the Brent Spence traveling between Cincinnati and CVG is miniscule. The Brent Spence traffic is a combination of local Cincinnati/NKY job commuters, product deliveries, and long distance tourist and truckers. If it were a significant factor, there is an easy way to solve it, force the airport traffic to take I-275 to the airport. How do you enforce that? Simple, cut some new roads from I-275 to the airport which have lane control only permitting I-275 as the egress vehicle. Can guarantee will not cost Billions.

 

CVG is a world class facility in all regards. It has one of the most sophisticated systems in the world to prevent such items as airplane deicer for inclement weather from contaminating the groundwater. The runway system is superb and can accommodate the largest airliners currently being built. The problem with CVG is how to maintain its facilities through a period of reduced passenber utilization and therefore income.

 

Advocating replacing CVG with some podunk regional airport with backwoods facilities to me is just simply asinine. If you want to be Big Leagues, then step up and act like it.

Frontier Airlines will add two nonstop flights a week to Denver from CVG, starting next May.  The airline will have 11 flights a week by August.

I said all along.  Another airport would actually save alot of money on the Brent Spence. Although a new airport would cost 15 billion.

 

 

Come on --- let's do the math here.

 

CVG has ~4,000,000 enplanements a year.  Divide by 365, roughly 11,000 enplanements a day. 

 

Enplanements are only people boarding a plane.  So let's multiply by 2, that's 22,000 people either walking onto or off of an airplane at CVG each day.

 

If 75% of those people are O&D (non-connecting), that works to 16,500 O&D passengers per day.

 

Those 16,500 passengers don't travel to CVG via 16,500 different vehicles.  Let's assume it only takes 11,000 vehicles (as some people are traveling together) to get them to CVG.

 

Of those 11,000 vehicles, not all of them originate from/travel to Ohio.  Let's say only 75% do (probably a high estimate).  Now we're at 8,250 vehicles going to and from CVG.

 

Of those 8,250 vehicles, not all will use the Brent Spence to cross the Ohio River.  For many west-siders (Ross, Harrison, Miamitown, etc), it's best to come around 275.  The ferry is also a west-side option.  There are multiple other downtown bridges, most notably I-471.  Folks from Anderson Township, Milford, Clermont County and the like will use 275 from the east.  Let's say only 50% (again, probably a high estimate) transit across the Brent Spence.

 

Now we are at 4,125 vehicles that use the Brent Spence daily to utilize CVG.  The Brent Spence has 140,000 vehicles use it daily.  AT MOST, CVG is responsible for 3% of the Brent Spence's total traffic.

Frontier Airlines will add two nonstop flights a week to Denver from CVG, starting next May.  The airline will have 11 flights a week by August.

 

This is definitely good news.  More details:

 

(1)  The second flight to Denver leaves in the mid-afternoon, so it is well-timed.  The current flight, of course, leaves VERY VERY early, typically at 6:15 AM (it's occasionally the very first commercial flight of the day to leave).  But obviously the locals have supported it well despite the fairly inconvenient takeoff time.

 

(2)  The second flight to Cincinnati leaves around 10 AM MT and arrives in the mid-afternoon.  Another fairly well-timed flight.  The current flight is one that gets into CVG right around Midnight --- convenient for maximizing time out West, but rough if someone has to be productive the next day.

 

(3)  One thing I find odd --- the 2nd flights will occur on Sundays, Mondays, Wednesdays and Thursdays.  Not running a 2nd daily on Tuesdays and Saturdays make sense.  Not running the 2nd daily flight on Friday is the odd one --- summer Fridays are typically very very busy travel days.

I said all along.  Another airport would actually save alot of money on the Brent Spence. Although a new airport would cost 15 billion.

 

 

Come on --- let's do the math here.

 

CVG has ~4,000,000 enplanements a year.  Divide by 365, roughly 11,000 enplanements a day. 

 

Enplanements are only people boarding a plane.  So let's multiply by 2, that's 22,000 people either walking onto or off of an airplane at CVG each day.

 

If 75% of those people are O&D (non-connecting), that works to 16,500 O&D passengers per day.

 

Those 16,500 passengers don't travel to CVG via 16,500 different vehicles.  Let's assume it only takes 11,000 vehicles (as some people are traveling together) to get them to CVG.

 

Of those 11,000 vehicles, not all of them originate from/travel to Ohio.  Let's say only 75% do (probably a high estimate).  Now we're at 8,250 vehicles going to and from CVG.

 

Of those 8,250 vehicles, not all will use the Brent Spence to cross the Ohio River.  For many west-siders (Ross, Harrison, Miamitown, etc), it's best to come around 275.  The ferry is also a west-side option.  There are multiple other downtown bridges, most notably I-471.  Folks from Anderson Township, Milford, Clermont County and the like will use 275 from the east.  Let's say only 50% (again, probably a high estimate) transit across the Brent Spence.

 

Now we are at 4,125 vehicles that use the Brent Spence daily to utilize CVG.  The Brent Spence has 140,000 vehicles use it daily.  AT MOST, CVG is responsible for 3% of the Brent Spence's total traffic.

 

I like your analysis and believe the math. The amount of traffic across the Brent Spence either originating in or terminating in Ohio on a daily basis between CVG is miniscule. That is CVG's major problem, not enough passengers originate from or terminate in Cincinnati. But to say it is a major impact on the Brent Spence, it simply is not.

PICHLER: CVG must fix problem before it's costly

Written by Josh Pichler

 

Something has to change at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport.

 

CVG’s board has become a regional poster child for dysfunction, with top billing going to the troubled working relationship between chairman Jim Huff and chief executive officer Candace McGraw.

 

It’s an amazing story, complete with overheard phone calls, a federal wiretapping lawsuit, even a plot hatched overseas to demote McGraw and then force her out.

 

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20131222/BIZ/312220027/PICHLER-CVG-must-fix-problem-before-s-costly?nclick_check=1

PICHLER: CVG must fix problem before it's costly

Written by Josh Pichler

 

Something has to change at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport.

 

CVG’s board has become a regional poster child for dysfunction, with top billing going to the troubled working relationship between chairman Jim Huff and chief executive officer Candace McGraw.

 

It’s an amazing story, complete with overheard phone calls, a federal wiretapping lawsuit, even a plot hatched overseas to demote McGraw and then force her out.

 

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20131222/BIZ/312220027/PICHLER-CVG-must-fix-problem-before-s-costly?nclick_check=1

 

In addition to the rift between certain board members, the article also pointed out another major problem with the airport board. This is that one person, Kenton County Judge-executive Steve Arlinghaus appoints all of the board members. This gives one person too much control and smacks of the good-ole-boy political system.

One interesting cut from Delta Airlines that I saw on another board ------- CVG-SLC is currently twice daily but will be cut to only ONCE for the months of April & May.  Then kick back up to twice daily beginning 1-June-2014.

 

For April & May, only the 8:40 AM departure from CVG will remain, the 5:20 PM departure will disappear.  Going the other way, the mid-morning SLC departure/mid-afternoon CVG arrival will disappear, while the late-afternoon SLC departure/late-evening CVG arrival will remain.

 

Those flights are pretty darn valuable for making connections to and from the West.  Hopefully this is not a sign of larger things to come, because that's a very odd route for Delta to cut for a few months.

 

Big changes at CVG in '13 boost traffic

Chris Wetterich Staff reporter- Cincinnati Business Courier

 

Nearly 60,000 more local passengers flew out of Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport in 2013 than the year before, an increase that CVG’s leaders say shows that their strategy of remaking the airport is working.

 

 

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2014/01/24/big-changes-at-cvg-in-13-boost-traffic.html

^^^ The announcement of increased local passenger traffic at CVG is good news, as well as the continuing growth of freight traffic and revenue. My major concern is DHL is the major freight handler through CVG and we saw what they did to Wilmington. DHL czn obviously walk away from a commitment without looking back.

 

If the airport board could eliminate its internal bickering and also see to it some of the daily operational management was made to buckle up, I believe their is certainly hope for CVG. It has the assets in place to serve Cincinnati which would cause Billions to duplicate.

 

It is a good thing the Cincinnati proposed regional airport near Blue Ash never materialized. It was under-planned and would have cost a fortune for land acquisition for expansion. It is a good thing KY got the opportunity to create CVG and did it.

 

But I do believe the Cincinnati side of the river, particularly the business community, needs to put more pressure on KY to change how CVG is operated. One of the first items should be members of the CVG board also be appointed from Ohio. How do you effect such pressure, like just about everything else - financially. You threaten an edict that all of your employees collectively will be informed they are NOT to fly out of CVG but use alternative airports. You have to be committed you will do this until the lack of passengers causes the airlines to say they cannot afford to maintain the flights, and the drop in flights and landing/takeoff fees tells CVG they cannot maintain operations. It is a ruthless tactic but an effective one.

 

CVG is important to the long-term sustenace of the Cincinnati Business Community. The question is who will step up and organize the Cincinnati pressure on KY to change how they operate the airport?

Subscriber-only article in the Business Courier this week:

 

Is it high time for Cincinnati to end its CVG dreams?

 

"The experts describe a best-case scenario where CVG keeps what’s left of Delta’s hub and its Paris flight, low-cost carrier Frontier Airlines is successful and JetBlue starts daily service to New York or Boston. Cincinnati continues to punch above its weight."

 

(Subscribe via UrbanCincy at a discounted rate of $49/year.)

 

New flights launch from CVG this week

Chris Wetterich Staff reporter- Cincinnati Business Courier

 

Three new flights launch this week from Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport, a part of the continued expansion of low-cost carriers at the airport.

 

On Wednesday, Allegiant Travel Co. launches a twice-a-week service to the Orlando, Fla., area. On Friday, Allegiant will start twice-a-week service to Punta Gorda/Fort Myers, Fla.

 

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2014/02/11/new-flights-launch-from-cvg-this-week.html

 

New flights launch from CVG this week

Chris Wetterich Staff reporter- Cincinnati Business Courier

 

Three new flights launch this week from Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport, a part of the continued expansion of low-cost carriers at the airport.

 

On Wednesday, Allegiant Travel Co. launches a twice-a-week service to the Orlando, Fla., area. On Friday, Allegiant will start twice-a-week service to Punta Gorda/Fort Myers, Fla.

 

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2014/02/11/new-flights-launch-from-cvg-this-week.html

 

I looked at their website for flights out of CVG, this is a very good alternative to Delta.....especially for direct flights to Florida.

I used Friday March 21 for departure to Ft. Myers, and Monday 24th for return, $300. (long weekend)

Delta is in the $600 range. They are doing direct flights to Ft. Myers, Orlando, Daytona.

Kenton County Airport Board Chairman Jim Huff and Vice Chairman Larry Savage – under months-long scrutiny for the board’s spending practices on travel and meals – have resigned their positions, effective immediately, Kenton County Judge-Executive Steve Arlinghaus said in a release.

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20140221/NEWS/302210128/Top-two-members-resign-from-CVG-board?odyssey=mod|breaking|text|FRONTPAGE&nclick_check=1

 

CVG plans announcement Tuesday

Chris Wetterich Staff reporter- Cincinnati Business Courier

 

Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport officials say they will make an announcement on Tuesday about air service.

 

CVG CEO Candace McGraw, members of the airport board and a “special guest” will be there for the announcement at 9:30 a.m.

 

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2014/03/03/cvg-plans-announcement-tuesday.html

I guess the cat is out of the bag!

 

EXCLUSIVE: Allegiant Air to add more flights at CVG

Mar. 3, 2014

Written by Jason Williams

 

Low-cost carrier Allegiant Air is expected to announce it will start flights to Myrtle Beach, S.C., and the Tampa, Fla., region from Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport, The Enquirer has learned.

 

CVG has called a press conference Tuesday morning.

 

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20140303/BIZ/303030132/EXCLUSIVE-Allegiant-Air-add-more-flights-CVG?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|p&gcheck=1&nclick_check=1

I was fairly excited about this airline coming to CVG but after doing a quick price comparison at first glance their prices are cheaper. However, they charge $35 each way for 1 carry-on bag. With that additional cost they are barely cheaper if not the same price as the other carriers flying to my particular destination. Pretty disappointing.

^^ Wow, i knew Allegiant followed the "A-la Carte" model, but i only thought they charged when you checked a bag.  $70 bucks round trip for a small carryon bag? 

Charging for a carry-on is ridiculous.  I've been checking in on the Cleveland airport thread since it was announced that they lost their hub, and it seems like they immediately had several press releases about more major airlines stepping in to pick up some of the slack.  I know we technically haven't lost our hub status yet, but I do find it surprising that the best we can seem to come up with to fill the void that Delta has left is Allegiant, and I suppose Frontier.

Charging for a carry-on is ridiculous. 

 

Actually, I wish airlines would charge for carry-ons and not for checked-baggage.  Think about how much time it takes to board a flight now that everyone is trying to avoid checked-baggage fees.  There are always people roaming the aisle, looking for a place to cram in a bag, as well as someone arguing with a flight attendant about how whether their carry-on is oversized and needs to be checked.  The airlines have incentivized delays with these checked-baggage fees. 

 

I've been checking in on the Cleveland airport thread since it was announced that they lost their hub, and it seems like they immediately had several press releases about more major airlines stepping in to pick up some of the slack.  I know we technically haven't lost our hub status yet, but I do find it surprising that the best we can seem to come up with to fill the void that Delta has left is Allegiant, and I suppose Frontier.

 

Happy to have Allegiant and Frontier, but I agree with you about wanting more flight options out of CVG.  Also, CVG needs to stop teasing these announcements when they're just going to be 2 additional destinations from a carrier that already has a presence.  I keep hoping it's another carrier or a large commitment from one of the existing ones.

Actually, I wish airlines would charge for carry-ons and not for checked-baggage.  Think about how much time it takes to board a flight now that everyone is trying to avoid checked-baggage fees.  There are always people roaming the aisle, looking for a place to cram in a bag, as well as someone arguing with a flight attendant about how whether their carry-on is oversized and needs to be checked.  The airlines have incentivized delays with these checked-baggage fees. 

 

I would like to see a small bag (purse, backpack, etc.) allowed as long as it can fit on your lap. Charge for carry on bags, and allow one free checked bag. I agree. It makes the whole process take longer.

Charging for a carry-on is ridiculous. 

 

Actually, I wish airlines would charge for carry-ons and not for checked-baggage.  Think about how much time it takes to board a flight now that everyone is trying to avoid checked-baggage fees.  There are always people roaming the aisle, looking for a place to cram in a bag, as well as someone arguing with a flight attendant about how whether their carry-on is oversized and needs to be checked.  The airlines have incentivized delays with these checked-baggage fees. 

 

I've been checking in on the Cleveland airport thread since it was announced that they lost their hub, and it seems like they immediately had several press releases about more major airlines stepping in to pick up some of the slack.  I know we technically haven't lost our hub status yet, but I do find it surprising that the best we can seem to come up with to fill the void that Delta has left is Allegiant, and I suppose Frontier.

 

Happy to have Allegiant and Frontier, but I agree with you about wanting more flight options out of CVG.  Also, CVG needs to stop teasing these announcements when they're just going to be 2 additional destinations from a carrier that already has a presence.  I keep hoping it's another carrier or a large commitment from one of the existing ones.

 

And many people are clueless about how to stow the carry on luggage. They put the luggage in the overhead storage area the wrong way.

 

I would like to see a small bag (purse, backpack, etc.) allowed as long as it can fit on your lap. Charge for carry on bags, and allow one free checked bag. I agree. It makes the whole process take longer.

 

That's probably a good idea.  If you can fit it under the seat in front of you, it's free.  If you put it in the overheard bin, you get charged.

Isn't the primary reason airlines started charging, for non carry on luggage, "weight". Person 1 buys a ticket and brings 1 carry on, person 2 buys a

ticket and brings a carry on and 2 giant suitcases (they create 3 times the weight of person 1). Reason #2 airlines want to make as much

money as possible.

 

And many people are clueless about how to stow the carry on luggage. They put the luggage in the overhead storage area the wrong way.

 

 

In all fairness though, sometimes the overhead compartments in a lot of smaller planes aren't shaped to allow for anything other than the smallest luggage to fit. I have a medium-to-small sized rolling carry-on luggage that is what I take whenever I travel and have found that on most planes it's fine to fit into the compartment perpendicular to the aisle, but on some of the smaller planes I've been in the back of the compartment slopes so much that it wouldn't be able to fit even if the luggage was empty. Granted, on these flights they've also gladly taken my luggage and did jetway pickup since they knew that normal sized luggage wouldn't fit unless you turned it parallel with the aisle. This could probably also all be solved by having accurate size tests for luggage before boarding...

CVG needs to stop teasing these announcements when they're just going to be 2 additional destinations from a carrier that already has a presence.  I keep hoping it's another carrier or a large commitment from one of the existing ones.

 

Seriously. It gives me the feeling the CVG people have excessively low expectations, if they consider these very minor improvements major victories. Maybe that's better than having excessively high expectations (e.g. believing a return to 2005 greatness is attainable), but it still paints the management in a negative light.

 

And many people are clueless about how to stow the carry on luggage. They put the luggage in the overhead storage area the wrong way.

 

 

In all fairness though, sometimes the overhead compartments in a lot of smaller planes aren't shaped to allow for anything other than the smallest luggage to fit. I have a medium-to-small sized rolling carry-on luggage that is what I take whenever I travel and have found that on most planes it's fine to fit into the compartment perpendicular to the aisle, but on some of the smaller planes I've been in the back of the compartment slopes so much that it wouldn't be able to fit even if the luggage was empty. Granted, on these flights they've also gladly taken my luggage and did jetway pickup since they knew that normal sized luggage wouldn't fit unless you turned it parallel with the aisle. This could probably also all be solved by having accurate size tests for luggage before boarding...

 

In the commuter jets, Embrarer ERJs/ Canandair CRJs, they pretty much take any luggage at the jetway, the storage compartments are small.

Exclusive: Cincy businesses courted JetBlue

Jason Williams 8:33 p.m. EST March 7, 2014

 

 

The Cincinnati business community has made contact with JetBlue Airways to try to bring the low-cost carrier to Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport, The Enquirer has learned.

 

A Procter & Gamble representative met with JetBlue officials in New York in November, according to documents obtained from Kenton County Judge-executive Steve Arlinghaus' office. The documents also show that executives from Macy's, Kroger, Western & Southern, GE Aviation and the Castellini Group of Companies were scheduled to meet with airline officials as recently as December.

 

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2014/03/07/exclusive-cincy-business-courted-jetblue/6184753/

Delta, US Airways plan to add flights at CVG

Jason Williams, [email protected] 8:37 p.m. EDT April 22, 2014

 

 

Two major airlines plan to add flights during peak travel seasons this year at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport.

 

U.S. Airways is set to add another daily, nonstop flight to Charlotte this summer, CVG officials said. Also, Delta Air Lines plans to offer daily flights to Cancun, Mexico, during the holiday season.

 

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/money/2014/04/22/us-airways-delta-add-at-cvg/8001763/

^  Certainly welcome news, but at this late stage of Delta's destruction of CVG, can anyone or anything make a difference over there across the river?  Personally I dunno, but what I do know is that somewhere around 2005, CVG fielded some 675+ flights/daily and its success then rivaled that of Charlotte today.  But no more and for known reasons why...so please don't refresh my memory; I've heard it all and I do understand.  :-(

New flight plan? Kroger exec joins CVG board

Jason Williams, [email protected] 12:07 a.m. EDT April 26, 2014

 

 

A top executive of Kroger is joining the board that runs Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport – a major step for the Cincinnati business community longing for more influence at one of the region's top economic development assets.

 

Mike Schlotman, Kroger's longtime senior vice president and chief financial officer, has been appointed to the airport board's executive committee, Kenton County Judge-executive Steve Arlinghaus told The Enquirer on Friday.

 

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/money/2014/04/25/kroger-exec-joins-cvg-board/8175931/