The west side suffers from being far away from growing employment centers in the north and northeast of our region. There is another growing employment cluster forming now around the airport. We need a bridge (w KY side tunnel) from US50 to CVG and I-275 in KY to connect the West Side with these jobs.

This should of been built 20 years ago. It's really critical for employment, and it could go a long way towards stabilizing housing on the west side as well.  It would also open up the possibility of higher income earners living in the hillside view areas where there already are some nicer homes. Its crazy how inexpensive huge homes are on the Westside.

The west side suffers from being far away from growing employment centers in the north and northeast of our region. There is another growing employment cluster forming now around the airport. We need a bridge (w KY side tunnel) from US50 to CVG and I-275 in KY to connect the West Side with these jobs.

This should of been built 20 years ago. It's really critical for employment, and it could go a long way towards stabilizing housing on the west side as well.  It would also open up the possibility of higher income earners living in the hillside view areas where there already are some nicer homes. Its crazy how inexpensive huge homes are on the Westside.

 

You can buy move-in ready homes for 1980s prices all over the west side, 10 years after the housing collapse. 

 

 

There is a bridge over 275 already. There are a ton of houses being built along the 275/74 split right now

There is a bridge over 275 already. There are a ton of houses being built along the 275/74 split right now

 

It’s too far out and hard to get to from established west side neighborhoods. I275 should have never been built all the way to Indiana. It should have gone through Ohio just west of Bridgetown. It’s kind of ridiculous to call us the “Tri-State”- Indiana just over the border is a rural area, is proud of it and would like to stay that way. And there’s nothing wrong with that.

 

A bridge right at the airport could be a Brent Spence alternative and serve the city neighborhoods and close in suburbs.

^^That's REALLY far away from a lot of the neighborhoods being discussed though, and it's expressway traffic.  There is a much greater distance between bridges on the OH side than the KY side, because of how the river bends.  A local bridge somewhere between Delhi and Saylor Park would be quite useful.

 

EDIT: thebillshark made pretty much the same point while I was typing.  Jinx.

There is a bridge over 275 already. There are a ton of houses being built along the 275/74 split right now

 

It’s too far out and hard to get to from established west side neighborhoods. I275 should have never been built all the way to Indiana. It should have gone through Ohio just west of Bridgetown. It’s kind of ridiculous to call us the “Tri-State”- Indiana just over the border is a rural area, is proud of it and would like to stay that way. And there’s nothing wrong with that.

 

A bridge right at the airport could be a Brent Spence alternative and serve the city neighborhoods and close in suburbs.

 

I've often wonder how much such a bridge could reduce Brent Spence loads. Is there any data that shows this?

I now some West siders hate that any new bridge would probably be the end of the Anderson Ferry,myself included. Time must march on.

Adding new local bridges to the east and west sides would add so much connectivity to the region for not that much money overall. An Anderson Ferry bridge would help west side neighborhoods grow and might even relieve some of the traffic on the Western Hills Viaduct and Brent Spence Bridge. An east side bridge linking Dayton, KY and Columbia-Tusculum would be really great for Dayton, which is fairly isolated right now... with a bridge, they could easily hop over to Columbia Parkway. Each bridge might only cost $100 million to build. (Compare that to the new BSB at $2.7 billion.)

^I’ve never been able to figure out why no one is clamoring for this, or seemingly even aware of the problem.

Discussion of a west side bridge alternative is included in this study of the Cincy Eastern Bypass on Page 51 (page 55 of the pdf.) They estimate it would cost less than a billion. They only estimate it would divert 0.9% of the traffic off the Brent Spence Bridge however. They do estimate that it would increase the total number of river crossings.  Interestingly another less than a billion option, connecting I-71 to I-471 in KY, leads to a 5.4% diversion from the Brent Spence.

 

https://transportation.ky.gov/Planning/Planning%20Studies%20and%20Reports/20171213_Final%20Report.pdf

 

 

If you combined the study’s numbers for the west side airport bridge with connecting I71 to I471 in KY, it would cost $1.5 Billion and you get 6.3% diversion. Compared to the full Eastern Bypass that yields 6.9% diversion but would cost more than double at $3.2 billion!

 

Yet these two options were not selected for “Level 2” evaluation but the Bypass was! I take this study with a grain of salt because there was political presssure to study the Eastern bypass.

 

I also question what a 0.9% diversion means, if we were having problems with the Brent Spence Bridge like we were last summer I bet a lot more people than that would divert over a West Side Bridge. Apps can divert people around traffic jam peak load conditions now and I wonder if that’s accounted for.

 

 

^I’ve never been able to figure out why no one is clamoring for this, or seemingly even aware of the problem.

 

Total speculation here, but could it have to do with downtown business leaders trying to concentrate their power downtown? The Roebling Bridge already doesn’t line up with the street grid because of pressure from businesses on the Ohio side, and didn’t the abandonment of the subway plan and the routing of I-75 have a lot to do specifically with downtown land owners working to increase their property values by hemming in downtown?

A bridge near Bender Rd (which was discussed decades ago) would be ideal.  It would go a long way in helping access many affordable homes on the Ohio side.

There is a bridge over 275 already. There are a ton of houses being built along the 275/74 split right now

 

It’s too far out and hard to get to from established west side neighborhoods. I275 should have never been built all the way to Indiana. It should have gone through Ohio just west of Bridgetown. It’s kind of ridiculous to call us the “Tri-State”- Indiana just over the border is a rural area, is proud of it and would like to stay that way. And there’s nothing wrong with that.

 

A bridge right at the airport could be a Brent Spence alternative and serve the city neighborhoods and close in suburbs.

 

I agree with all your general points but 50k+ Dearborn Countians disagree re: 275 routing. There is a heavy commuting pattern into Cincinnati from that node of 275.

What came first though? The commuting pattern and population, or the highway?

Here's a sketch of a bridge with two road tunnels.  I think Option A for a road tunnel would be more direct for a Brent Spence bypass and also may be more direct if trying to serve the area jobs as well as the airport, but Option B would lead directly to the airport terminal.

 

I think the road portion is worth doing even if the light rail never comes to fruition.  You could have west side bus routes to the airport, warehouses and offices, without going through downtown first.

 

It is difficult to talk about replacing a 200 year old ferry business with a bridge, but this could be a regionally important project. Maybe they could relocate to Rising Sun, Dayton KY or another spot along the river. 

 

 

 

 

^I’ve never been able to figure out why no one is clamoring for this, or seemingly even aware of the problem.

 

Total speculation here, but could it have to do with downtown business leaders trying to concentrate their power downtown? The Roebling Bridge already doesn’t line up with the street grid because of pressure from businesses on the Ohio side, and didn’t the abandonment of the subway plan and the routing of I-75 have a lot to do specifically with downtown land owners working to increase their property values by hemming in downtown?

 

Mark Mallory did propose this during one of his State of the City addresses. Of course, Mallory was one of a few Cincinnati mayors that actually proposed ideas that he felt would be good for the city, rather than simply being a puppet of rich downtown landowners. I can totally see why those downtown landowners would not like this proposal and would insist that every available infrastructure dollar instead go towards the BSB.

Here's a sketch of a bridge with two road tunnels.  I think Option A for a road tunnel would be more direct for a Brent Spence bypass and also may be more direct if trying to serve the area jobs as well as the airport, but Option B would lead directly to the airport terminal.

 

I think the road portion is worth doing even if the light rail never comes to fruition.  You could have west side bus routes to the airport, warehouses and offices, without going through downtown first.

 

It is difficult to talk about replacing a 200 year old ferry business with a bridge, but this could be a regionally important project. Maybe they could relocate to Rising Sun, Dayton KY or another spot along the river. 

 

 

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4651/27909486859_65c96b63dc_h.jpg

 

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4628/39688242531_f27e1ffc9a_h.jpg

 

 

So, thank you, for putting this together. I've never really envisioned light rail to the airport working this way. For some reason, I always kind of assumed they would go across Clay Wade or a new bridge near the BSB, along 75/71 and then cut over to the airport like the highway does.

 

This proposal would shorten that trip quite a bit. Would a tunnel be needed, though or is the grade too steep in the NKY hills near the ferry?

Billshark, years ago somewhere else we came up with a light rail plan that would have a line travel west on the surface of W. 8th, across the viaduct, then travel as a subway under price hill to Delhi, then surface and cross the river on a transit-only bridge.  That would do a ton to bring some momentum back to the west side. 

Instead of crossing directly at the Anderson Ferry site, would it make more sense to have the approaches to the bridge line up with Neeb and the CVG access road? I guess no matter where you put it you'll have to widen roads to handle the traffic, but I feel that location would be more workable than anything around Anderson Ferry/Mineola.

From a cost perspective, there are better locations than Anderson Ferry to put a bridge.  Anderson Ferry would need to be widened at least to Delhi Ave, if not further.  Traffic is already a mess during rush hour.  I think these would be better locations:

 

1. My first choice would be in Sayler Park just west of Hillside Ave as the river is a bit narrower in that spot.  On the Kentucky side, traffic could take either Rt. 2846 or Rt. 8 to the airport, eliminating the need to widen the roads. 

 

2. My second choice would be US 50 at Shady Lane in North Bend.  Like the first option, this would not require a widening of any roads.  Ohio residents would have the option of coming from Bridgetown Rd, Shady Lane, Fiddlers Green, or any of the roads further east with a minimal difference in commute time.  Also on the Kentucky side, drivers would have the option of taking either Rt. 237 or Rt. 8 to the airport. 

 

3. There are other reasonable areas, such as US 50 at the bend in North Bend, the west end of Sayler Park at McDonalds, or US 50 at Bender Rd.  These have a few negatives such as roads that would need to be widened or slightly extended commute time.

^Too far out. North Bend is already close to the I-275 bridge. A Saylor Park Bridge would have most west siders going west to the bridge then backtracking east on the Kentucky side to get to the airport. It also should be close in enough to act as a Brent Spence alternative for interstate traffic coming to/from the south if the BSB is jammed.

 

^^Neeb is a steep 300 ft above the river so that might require an Ohio Side tunnel as well. You would definitely want to intersect with US50 so you wouldn’t want to do just a really tall Bridge from hilltop to hilltop.

I do feel like the most direct and obvious route would be connecting Neeb Road to Terminal Drive, with a connector road on the Ohio side providing connectivity to US-50, similar to the connector road linking Central Parkway and Hopple Street.

One of the things that makes this bridge appealing is that US50 functions almost like an interstate highway, so if you wanted to use this new bridge to get to downtown, it would be better not to have a lot of “friction” (like a connector road) before getting onto US50 though.

^Too far out. North Bend is already close to the I-275 bridge. A Saylor Park Bridge would have most west siders going west to the bridge then backtracking east on the Kentucky side to get to the airport. It also should be close in enough to act as a Brent Spence alternative for interstate traffic coming to/from the south if the BSB is jammed.

 

^^Neeb is a steep 300 ft above the river so that might require an Ohio Side tunnel as well. You would definitely want to intersect with US50 so you wouldnt want to do just a really tall Bridge from hilltop to hilltop.

 

The BSB would have to be extremely jammed for people to consider using any westside bridge as an alternative.  Traffic would have to exit at the Freeman exit at the very latest.  When the extra distance, lower speeds, and stop lights are considered, there's not going to be any time savings.  Widening Anderson Ferry would be very costly as many retaining walls would have to be built and a majority of the homes would have to be demolished.  It also wouldn't matter if people would have to backtrack a few miles because they're going to choose that route over the BSB or I-275 anyway.  Once you get to a certain point in the northern and eastern parts of the westside, traffic is going to take I-75 regardless of where the bridge is built. 

 

Talking about tunnels on one or both sides of the river is pretty silly as well.  That will balloon the cost to a point where politicians are going to say no way and move forward with a new BSB and Eastern Bypass.  I know my post probably sounds harsh, but we need to be realistic.  This bridge needs to be seen as an alternative to a new BSB at a significantly cheaper cost.  Along with turning I-471 into I-71 and extending it to the split, a westside bridge would eliminate the need for a new BSB and Eastern Bypass, respectively.

The BSB would have to be extremely jammed for people to consider using any westside bridge as an alternative.

 

KY commuters from Florence, Villa Hills, and Crescent Springs would probably use it daily, since the cut in the hill backs up daily. This would also make Ludlow a more attractive river city, since it’s relatively isolated currently.

With the added jobs and future growth of Amazon at the airport (which just today announced was getting bigger), a new bridge should be taken more seriously. I would vote for a transit only bridge personally. That way the ferry can continue to accommodate cars, but the masses could use public transit to get there.

 

Since this route is shorter, and would avoid the traffic issues of BSB and cut in the hill, it would be competitive or even faster than driving which is also essential to transit's success.

^Agreed on transit only but that woudl probably never get done here in Cincy, but we could do the bridge with transit, and that would not only help with the Brent Spence, it would also really help out the west side neighborhoods, big time.  Think how easy for them to get on the bridge via car or transit straight shot over to the airport, and with all the new jobs coming, the city and airport could really advertise to come to the west side of Cincy!

The BSB would have to be extremely jammed for people to consider using any westside bridge as an alternative.

 

KY commuters from Florence, Villa Hills, and Crescent Springs would probably use it daily, since the cut in the hill backs up daily. This would also make Ludlow a more attractive river city, since its relatively isolated currently.

 

It's possible, but these commuters already have the option of using Rt. 8 or Rt. 25 as an alternate route. 

A new 2-lane bridge would be very cheap.  Possibly under $100 million.  But the approach roads would be very expensive.  A more interesting solution might be a high bridge 200+ feet above the river.  It would completely avoid the difficult grades at either end and might be cheaper than the extensive earthmoving and land acquisition necessary to create good approaches. 

 

This thing in France is 8,000 feet long and cost $400 million Euros:

 

So it's pretty conceivable that a similar structure that is only 2-lanes wide and significantly shorter in length could cost $400 million or less in 2018 dollars. 

 

A new 2-lane bridge would be very cheap.  Possibly under $100 million.  But the approach roads would be very expensive.  A more interesting solution might be a high bridge 200+ feet above the river.  It would completely avoid the difficult grades at either end and might be cheaper than the extensive earthmoving and land acquisition necessary to create good approaches. 

 

This thing in France is 8,000 feet long and cost $400 million Euros:

 

So it's pretty conceivable that a similar structure that is only 2-lanes wide and significantly shorter in length could cost $400 million or less in 2018 dollars. 

 

 

I been across this bridge in France and its amazing, the idea is good for the situation in the river valley. However, I would think this would get shot down quickly because of the landing approach with the airport runways. Bad enough planes have hit the side of the hill back in the day...

A new 2-lane bridge would be very cheap.  Possibly under $100 million.  But the approach roads would be very expensive.  A more interesting solution might be a high bridge 200+ feet above the river.  It would completely avoid the difficult grades at either end and might be cheaper than the extensive earthmoving and land acquisition necessary to create good approaches. 

 

This thing in France is 8,000 feet long and cost $400 million Euros:

 

So it's pretty conceivable that a similar structure that is only 2-lanes wide and significantly shorter in length could cost $400 million or less in 2018 dollars. 

 

 

In my mind, this is exactly the type of solution I envisioned. The bridge would connect the tops of the two sides of the river, not the valleys.  For arguments sake, using Anderson Ferry Rd, so much of the westside ( Westwood, WPH, Covedale, chunks of Green Twp, and Delhi) would all have excellent access. These areas are filled with tons of housing that is likely occupied by potential employees for airport area type jobs.

I been across this bridge in France and its amazing, the idea is good for the situation in the river valley. However, I would think this would get shot down quickly because of the landing approach with the airport runways. Bad enough planes have hit the side of the hill back in the day...

 

I checked an alignment between Anderson Ferry and Mineola would be well outside the flight path of the easternmost north/south runway.  Also, the bridge would not have to be cable-stayed.  It could be an opportunity to do a high arch bridge. 

 

 

I been across this bridge in France and its amazing, the idea is good for the situation in the river valley. However, I would think this would get shot down quickly because of the landing approach with the airport runways. Bad enough planes have hit the side of the hill back in the day...

 

I checked an alignment between Anderson Ferry and Mineola would be well outside the flight path of the easternmost north/south runway.  Also, the bridge would not have to be cable-stayed.  It could be an opportunity to do a high arch bridge. 

 

 

 

Boom! Lets start ROW acquisition tomorrow. This would be a home-run for bolstering a HUGE portion of west side Cincinnati. I strongly feel its in the best interest of the city to refocus all WH Viaduct redevelopment money on this project instead.  There are plenty of other ways to currently reach jobs in downtown and uptown for west siders.

^well, it is the future vs. the past a little bit. The Viaduct runs between two neighborhoods that have emptied out in the 80 plus years since it’s opened, and parallel routes exist. I’m certainly not against rebuilding it, but I am a little surprised it’s going to be as-is and no one’s thought of a way to improve on it or do it differently. The airport, meanwhile, is one of the few sure-fire job creation engines our region has going forward.

 

I mean, could you imagine if people in Oakley had to drive downtown and go over a bridge in order to commute to a job in Blue Ash? Houses in Oakley wouldn’t be in such high demand as they are now.

 

I wonder if including this bridge to better serve Amazon jobs at the airport would have improved our chances of winning Amazon HQ2. We may want to call them up to revise our proposal.

Realistically, how much traffic would this hypothetical Mineola Pike-Anderson Ferry bridge see on a daily basis? 30-40k vehicles per day?

 

I personally think it's a great idea but I think there would be a hard time getting buy in for a West Side -> airport connector.

CVG fares, at a new record low, fall far below national average

 

Five years ago, fares at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport were at or near the top of the nationwide rankings among the top 100 U.S. airports in terms of passengers. Now, they are near the bottom and going lower each quarter.

 

In the rankings for the third quarter of 2017, CVG’s fares were the 21st lowest among the top 100 airports with an average fare of $300.65, the lowest recorded since such statistics have been gathered. CVG’s average fare for the same quarter in 2016 was $363. The average fare in the third quarter of 2013 was $548.

 

The nationwide average was $336, which was the lowest inflation-adjusted quarterly fare in 23 years of the Bureau of Transportation Statistics collecting records.

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/01/16/cvg-fares-at-a-new-record-low-fall-far-below.html

Delta expands year-round service from CVG to this West Coast city

 

 

Delta Air Lines is expanding service at Seattle-Tacoma International Airport and Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport will be a beneficiary.

 

Delta is taking its summer-only flights to Seattle from CVG and making them year-round, according to Courier sister publication the Atlanta Business Chronicle. Delta is adding service both in Seattle and Boston. 

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/01/16/delta-expands-year-round-service-from-cvg-to-this.html

Gotta make sure that HQ2 is an easy plane ride away from HQ1  :P

Delta will start Austin service back in May and Seattle service starts back in March. Word around the airport is Delta is looking at Skywest flying an E175 during non peak season to Seattle to bring year around service to the Emerald city. Mainline in the summer and connection in the winter.

 

Looks like my source was not completely wrong, great to see it will be mainline service though year around. Aircraft sizing will change during off and on season (757,737-9, 737-8) flight will always be early morning 7am with arrival in SEA at 845am. With Amazon beefing up its cargo service here it just makes sense for this route to be year around again.

CVG sets new records for passengers, cargo

 

Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport set three new records before 2017 came to a close.

 

In a banner year for CVG that saw it land Amazon,com Inc.’s air services hub and begin Southwest Airlines service, the airport also saw the most local passengers ever in December and the most cargo shipped both in a single year and for the month of December.

 

CVG officials reported that 308,446 people flew from the airport in December, besting a prior record set for the month. Considering the total number of December enplanements – 323,834 – the numbers underscore how much of CVG’s traffic now comes from people whose trips originate from the airport compared with those just connecting through it.

 

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American Airlines switching concourses at CVG as part of major ramp upgrades

 

American Airlines will shift its gate operations from Concourse A to Concourse B — Delta's foothold — around April 1. CVG officials are initiating a major ramp rehabilitation; work could take as many as two to three years to complete.

 

It's considered a temporary change for now.

CVG sets new records for passengers, cargo

 

It's going to be fun watching the Amazon Air Force grow.

Delta expands CVG service to new city

 

 

Delta Air Lines is expanding its destinations at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport with another new city.

 

The airline (NYSE: DAL) will add service to Phoenix from CVG this year to bring its total offerings to 36 total destinations.

 

“We are proud to be Cincinnati’s No. 1 global airline,” said Eric Phillips, senior vice president – Pricing & Revenue Management and Delta’s Cincinnati market executive. “With these additions, customers in Cincinnati and Northern Kentucky will have more choices to go to the top business and leisure destinations that are important to them, and we look forward to continuing this growth.”

 

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Delta expands CVG service to new city

 

 

Delta Air Lines is expanding its destinations at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport with another new city.

 

The airline (NYSE: DAL) will add service to Phoenix from CVG this year to bring its total offerings to 36 total destinations.

 

“We are proud to be Cincinnati’s No. 1 global airline,” said Eric Phillips, senior vice president – Pricing & Revenue Management and Delta’s Cincinnati market executive. “With these additions, customers in Cincinnati and Northern Kentucky will have more choices to go to the top business and leisure destinations that are important to them, and we look forward to continuing this growth.”

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/02/05/delta-expands-cvg-service-to-new-city.html

 

Delta flights to Phoenix will be using 737-8 aircraft on the route. Nice to see this route return to Cincinnati via Delta, I question if southwest, allegiant, or frontier will try to compete or just end there flights to Phoenix.

Btw does everyone like how quietly Delta has moved CVG from 'hub' to 'focus city' terminology? Seems this was presented and decided in the 2017 December Investors packet. Boston was also made a focus city as well. Delta hubs by size ATL, DTW, MSP, LGA, SLC, JFK, LAX, and SEA. Delta focus city by size CVG, BOS, and RDU.

 

Btw does everyone like how quietly Delta has moved CVG from 'hub' to 'focus city' terminology? Seems this was presented and decided in the 2017 December Investors packet. Boston was also made a focus city as well. Delta hubs by size ATL, DTW, MSP, LGA, SLC, JFK, LAX, and SEA. Delta focus city by size CVG, BOS, and RDU.

 

 

I remember being at Logan back in 2002 and seeing multiple flights per hour to Cincinnati. 

 

 

Btw does everyone like how quietly Delta has moved CVG from 'hub' to 'focus city' terminology? Seems this was presented and decided in the 2017 December Investors packet. Boston was also made a focus city as well. Delta hubs by size ATL, DTW, MSP, LGA, SLC, JFK, LAX, and SEA. Delta focus city by size CVG, BOS, and RDU.

 

 

I remember being at Logan back in 2002 and seeing multiple flights per hour to Cincinnati. 

 

 

 

There is three daily flights a day to BOS from CVG. Two mainline and a connection flight. Mostly GE, Fidelity, and P&G folks on those flights.

Southwest Airlines expands CVG service

 

 

Southwest Airlines is expanding its service at the Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport.

 

The airline will launch flights from CVG to Denver starting Aug. 7.

 

The route will operate year round with flights departing CVG at 8:10 p.m. Monday through Friday, 11 a.m. Saturday and 12:05 p.m. on Sunday. Return flights will depart from Denver at 12:40 p.m. Monday through Friday, 1:50 p.m. Saturday and 12:45 p.m. Sunday.

 

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^ That makes what, 8 daily nonstops to DEN from CVG? That's great news!

^ That makes what, 8 daily nonstops to DEN from CVG? That's great news!

 

I would suspect Allegiant to drop Denver and depending on the slug fest with Delta, United and Frontier to see one of them down size aircraft or reduce flight numbers. Southwest, Frontier, and United have the appeal of connection Hub. Delta has the appeal of all the skymiles members base in town.

Where are customers flying on CVG's newest international carrier?

 

Wow Air's strongest outbound markets from CVG are:

Iceland: 47 percent

Dublin: 12 percent

London: 12 percent

Paris: 10 percent

Amsterdam: 8 percent.

 

WOW's strongest inbound markets to CVG are:

Iceland: 22 percent

London: 18 percent

Paris: 16 percent

Dublin: 9 percent

Berlin: 8 percent

Frankfurt: 5 percent.

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/02/21/where-are-customers-flying-on-cvgs-newest.html