February 28, 20205 yr CVG tops off major project: PHOTOS By Erin Caproni – Digital Producer, Cincinnati Business Courier The Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport has reached a milestone on a huge project. The airport and Messer Construction hosted a topping off ceremony for its 1.2 million-square-foot rental car facility on Wednesday. The highest beam was installed on the structure, which will be connected to the terminal for passengers to perform rental car transactions starting in 2021. MORE
March 5, 20205 yr CVG is announcing a new airline to serve the airport on Friday. Thinking either Alaska or Spirit. Still don't think JetBlue is ever going to take the Midwest seriously. What do others think it could possibly be?
March 5, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, savadams13 said: CVG is announcing a new airline to serve the airport on Friday. Thinking either Alaska or Spirit. Still don't think JetBlue is ever going to take the Midwest seriously. What do others think it could possibly be? My guess is SPirit or some new startup airline. I am sure if it were Jet Blue we would hear about it by now through the rumor mill and you would see something on the Jet Blue website (hidden on it or course) I dont think Alaska is coming here yet (although it would be great if they did). Depends on how much demand there is for another flight to Seattle at this point. Cant see them doing anything outside of a flight to Seattle. Maybe British is announcing their new international service to London, but I think it would probably have leaked out by now too. This is why I bet it is a small startup or Spirit type airline.
March 5, 20205 yr My guess would be Alaska to SEA as well. DL increased its frequency to SEA from CVG recently and with the AS/AA partnership, SEA is going to become a major battleground.
March 5, 20205 yr There has to be some super sleuth around here with a connection to get the scoop before everyone else does?
March 5, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, Brutus_buckeye said: There has to be some super sleuth around here with a connection to get the scoop before everyone else does? I used to when I worked there. Haven't in almost three years though.
March 5, 20205 yr It's definitely a possibility but with both AA and BA announcing additional capacity to LHR from SEA, there might be some issues with slot allotments that would need to be sorted out. A BA announcement would probably be later in the year I'd guess.
March 6, 20205 yr This is great news for CVG. The Delta/AS battle will be great for consumers here in Cincinnati. Same goes for the Columbus folks.
March 6, 20205 yr 20 hours ago, LtCheese said: It's definitely a possibility but with both AA and BA announcing additional capacity to LHR from SEA, there might be some issues with slot allotments that would need to be sorted out. A BA announcement would probably be later in the year I'd guess. They would not be able to keep quiet about it prior to the announcement. It would be like when Southwest landed at CVG. Alaska is a perfect addition and it really makes a ton on sense, not just with the AA/BA flights overseas (it really makes no sense to connect in Seattle to go to England, New York is a much better gateway at that point). With the Prime Air Hub ramping up, you figure there will be a ton of additional Amazon traffic on those flights and a lot of guarantees in seat purchases. I could even see Delta adding another non-stop to Seattle in the coming years.
March 6, 20205 yr To confirm... CVG gets a new carrier serving west coast Alaska Airlines announced daily service Friday from Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport to Seattle, giving CVG another key direct flight as Amazon prepares to open its air services hub in 2021. The once-daily flight will also provide CVG new connections to the west coast, Alaska and Hawaii and is viewed by CVG officials as another key route for Cincinnati business. Twenty-nine connections will be available via the flight, according to Alaska Airlines. The flights also provide competition on the route, with Delta having a direct flight to its hub in Seattle. The service offers "great times for our business travelers or anyone who is looking to go to the west coast on vacation," said CVG CEO Candace McGraw. "We're hoping this is the start of a very long relationship with Alaska, and there will be even greater things to come." More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2020/03/06/cvg-gets-a-new-carrier-serving-west-coast.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
March 10, 20205 yr CVG ranks No. 1 for customer service Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky has been ranked as the top North American airport for customer service by the Airports Council International. CVG won the 2019 Airport Service Quality Award for North American airports with 5 to 15 million passengers. “The Airport Service Quality Awards represent the highest possible recognition for airport operators around the world and recognize excellence in customer experience,” ACI World Director General Angela Gittens said. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2020/03/09/cvg-ranks-no-1-for-customer-service.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
April 22, 20205 yr CVG passenger numbers for March 2020 (372k) vs March 2019 (781k) are down 52%. I suspect April numbers will be down ~80%.
May 11, 20205 yr CVG is among the world's best airports, industry group says Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport was again ranked the best regional airport in North America by London-based Skytrax based on a surveys of airport customers worldwide. It’s the seventh year out of nine that CVG has won the award for airports that primarily serve regional traffic. CVG regularly touts the ranking to passengers and in marketing materials. “To earn this distinction for seven of the last nine years reflects the outstanding commitment of the best airport team and partners in this industry,” said CVG CEO Candace McGraw. “As our community readies to start traveling again, they can be assured that an excellent airport experience—one that is safe and healthy—always has been and always will be our top priority.” More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2020/05/11/cvg-is-among-the-worlds-best-airports-industry.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
May 14, 20205 yr Delta Air Lines closing Cincinnati pilot crew base due to COVID-19 About 150 pilots impacted Delta Air Lines Inc. is closing its crew base of local pilots, impacting about 150 people in Cincinnati and Northern Kentucky. The move represents yet another downsizing for the Atlanta-based airline that once operated one of its largest hubs out of CVG Airport in Hebron. It also comes just a few months after PSA Airlines, a regional carrier owned by American Airlines, closed its 400-employee crew base of pilots and flight attendants at CVG. Airport officials could not be reached immediately for comment. Cont "It's just fate, as usual, keeping its bargain and screwing us in the fine print..." - John Crichton
July 26, 20204 yr CVG Airport passenger stats for the last few months: April 2020 - 40,339 2019 - 751,278 May 2020 - 89,986 2019 - 834,496 June 2020 - 199,771 2019 - 889,365 Total numbers YTD - 1,957,012 VS YTD 2019 - 4,424,171 -55% YOY Decrease
September 1, 20204 yr Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport receives $45 million federal grant Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport is one of several airports set to receive a fresh dose of federal funding. On Tuesday, the U.S. Department of Transportation announced CVG was awarded $45 million in federal aid to fund infrastructure projects, including rehabilitating its runways and taxiways, according to a news release. "This grant funding is critical to CVG and our airline partners, and we thank the U.S. Department of Transportation and Secretary Elaine Chao for recognizing that essential infrastructure investment ensures the long-term success of CVG and airports across the country," CVG CEO Candace McGraw said in a statement. "We are grateful for the support of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and Congressman Thomas Massie for their advocacy in support of this critical funding. These dollars will enable significant rehabilitation of one of our runways and associated taxiways." More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2020/09/01/cvg-receives-45m-grant.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
September 29, 20204 yr Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport gets $6.7 million from feds for improvements Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport will receive $6.7 million from the federal government, which it will use to rehabilitate its runways and associated taxiways. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2020/09/29/cvg-gets-millions-more-from-feds.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
September 29, 20204 yr On 2/6/2020 at 8:18 AM, LtCheese said: With the de-emphasis on airline alliances over the past few years, I don't see that being a major factor in BA determining where to fly. Here's a (not complete) list of BA flights to non Oneworld hubs: AUS ATL BOS BNA SAN SJC SEA PDX BA is going to be looking for consistent load factors much more than some legacy AAdvantage elite members from a decade old hub. BOS and BNA are certainly American focus cities? I have a friend up there in Boston and he told me they have more AA flights than JFK now.
September 30, 20204 yr Southwest launches new flight from CVG to Houston Southwest Airlines is expanding its service options at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport, launching service to Houston's William P. Hobby Airport. It's Southwest's fourth nonstop, year-round destination at CVG and adds additional competition in the Houston market. Southwest has flights from CVG to Baltimore/Washington International Airport, Chicago-Midway International Airport and Denver. Southwest also flies to Phoenix and Orlando on a seasonal basis. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2020/09/30/southwest-launches-new-flight-from-cvg-to-houston.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
October 6, 20204 yr CVG’s Paris flight set to return Delta has given CVG news that likely will prompt a sigh of relief from the region’s business community. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2020/10/06/cvg-paris-flight-set-to-return.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
December 13, 20204 yr CVG Airport passenger stats for the last few months: July 2020 - 275,855 2019 - 892.244 Aug 2020 - 257,144 2019 - 827,531 Sep 2020 - 254,907 2019 - 722,372 Oct 2020 - 317,041 2019 - 808,127 Total numbers YTD - 3,061,959 VS YTD 2019 - 7,674,445 -60.10% YOY Decrease
January 10, 20214 yr Today I received some credible info that Amazon will be breaking ground this year or early next on a GIANT phase 2 of its CVG hub costing approximately 700 million dollars. We all knew the Amazon hub was going to be big but apparently it’s going to be extremely large. The last time I flew out of Cincinnati earlier this year I remember seeing the under construction phase 1 and was very impressed by its size. I know Amazon’s HQ2 search got all the attention but I must say this hub is a verrrryyyy big deal and a truly Fantastic pick up for metro Cincinnati
January 10, 20214 yr This will have to be the open area between 18C and 18R usually referred to as the infield or no mans land. Amazon operations built here will better connect their warehouses off 237. CVG was extremely lucky to have landed Amazon Air operations and I can't wait to see the finished product!
January 12, 20214 yr On 1/10/2021 at 4:19 PM, 646empire said: Today I received some credible info that Amazon will be breaking ground this year or early next on a GIANT phase 2 of its CVG hub costing approximately 700 million dollars. We all knew the Amazon hub was going to be big but apparently it’s going to be extremely large. The last time I flew out of Cincinnati earlier this year I remember seeing the under construction phase 1 and was very impressed by its size. I know Amazon’s HQ2 search got all the attention but I must say this hub is a verrrryyyy big deal and a truly Fantastic pick up for metro Cincinnati On 1/10/2021 at 6:23 PM, richNcincy said: This will have to be the open area between 18C and 18R usually referred to as the infield or no mans land. Amazon operations built here will better connect their warehouses off 237. CVG was extremely lucky to have landed Amazon Air operations and I can't wait to see the finished product! This is only Phase 2 of 3 planned phases for their CVG Air Hub. The main building will ultimately reach down to Aero Parkway (SR 1017). Last I heard Phases 2 and 3 are both the size of Phase 1, but Phase 1 included all the basic infrastructure, thus it's $1.4 billion price tag. They also have the option to build their own runway at CVG. Edited January 12, 20214 yr by thesenator
January 12, 20214 yr 28 minutes ago, thesenator said: This is only Phase 2 of 3 planned phases for their CVG Air Hub. The main building will ultimately reach down to Aero Parkway (SR 1017). Last I heard Phases 2 and 3 are both the size of Phase 1, but Phase 1 included all the basic infrastructure, thus it's $1.4 billion price tag. They also have the option to build their own runway at CVG. It appears that there is space for a 10,000~ foot east/west runway parallel to Aero Way, but why would an additional runway ever be needed?
January 12, 20214 yr All the Amazon development on Airport grounds doesn't interest me as much as what, if any, spin-off developments will come of this. From online retailers, logistics companies, wholesalers and Amazon themselves, can we get someone to move into the empty Toyota headquarters? What will go on the 270 acres of land the diocese sold to Eagle realty at the corner of Houston and Donaldson. Basically the question is, will all of the flat land left in Boone County just become distribution warehouses or can we get office and tech jobs from being the location of the Amazon hub as well?
January 12, 20214 yr 26 minutes ago, ucgrady said: All the Amazon development on Airport grounds doesn't interest me as much as what, if any, spin-off developments will come of this. From online retailers, logistics companies, wholesalers and Amazon themselves, can we get someone to move into the empty Toyota headquarters? What will go on the 270 acres of land the diocese sold to Eagle realty at the corner of Houston and Donaldson. Basically the question is, will all of the flat land left in Boone County just become distribution warehouses or can we get office and tech jobs from being the location of the Amazon hub as well? That's the thing - I don't believe that the hub will motivate much spinoff. I just had this conversation with someone recently. Louisville and Memphis haven't benefited much from the UPS or FedEx hubs.
January 12, 20214 yr 47 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said: I just had this conversation with someone recently. Louisville and Memphis haven't benefited much from the UPS or FedEx hubs. Im not sure what you mean by that? Those hubs employ ALOT of people. FedEx Memphis hub alone has more than 10,000 workers.
January 12, 20214 yr ^ I think many people just haven’t been paying attention (yet) to what’s been happening at and around CVG in regards to Amazon. I believe because there is constant news about new Amazon warehouses all over the country everyone just brushes it off. But this project is NOT one of those basic warehouses, CVG is going to become Amazon’s Logistics HQ. There have been plenty of big spin off effects including Atlas Air’s new 30+million dollar aircraft maintenance hanger adding 600 good paying jobs that service Amazon planes. AL Neyer recently announced a 65million dollar spec industrial development next to CVG and thats to just name a couple that I know about. Also many of the pilots and others stay at Downtown Cincinnati hotels (I know this for a fact), all of this and phase 1 of the hub isn’t even open yet. This thing is a real game changer for the entire region in my opinion.
January 12, 20214 yr Wow what a coincidence, Amazon’s CVG Hub front and center in the New York Times this morning. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/12/business/air-cargo-airports-amazon.amp.html Edited January 12, 20214 yr by 646empire
January 12, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, 646empire said: Im not sure what you mean by that? Those hubs employ ALOT of people. FedEx Memphis hub alone has more than 10,000 workers. I know but they aren't good jobs. This isn't the 1950s-1960s where those people would be earning the equivalent of $60,000 in today's money with full benefits and a pension. They're going to make $20/hr, tops, with breadcrumb benefits. DHL burned through everyone in Wilmington which is why they had to move back to CVG where they have 300% turnover but just enough people who are in bad life situations but can pass a drug test to work their midnight-8am shift. Amazon will be better only because they will have large first and second shifts and won't be entirely tilted toward the overnight hours as is DHL. This means they'll get better people working on their third shift since there is something to work toward - the normal shifts. DHL doesn't have that and never will. But my larger point was that there really is no reason to expect a bunch of spinoff businesses to appear. Logistics is sort-of a dead-end.
January 12, 20214 yr 10 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said: I know but they aren't good jobs. This isn't the 1950s-1960s where those people would be earning the equivalent of $60,000 in today's money with full benefits and a pension. They're going to make $20/hr, tops, with breadcrumb benefits. Many people with a 4 year degree and $30k in student loan debt would love a job paying $20/hr.
January 12, 20214 yr 30 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said: I know but they aren't good jobs. This isn't the 1950s-1960s where those people would be earning the equivalent of $60,000 in today's money with full benefits and a pension. They're going to make $20/hr, tops, with breadcrumb benefits. DHL burned through everyone in Wilmington which is why they had to move back to CVG where they have 300% turnover but just enough people who are in bad life situations but can pass a drug test to work their midnight-8am shift. Amazon will be better only because they will have large first and second shifts and won't be entirely tilted toward the overnight hours as is DHL. This means they'll get better people working on their third shift since there is something to work toward - the normal shifts. DHL doesn't have that and never will. But my larger point was that there really is no reason to expect a bunch of spinoff businesses to appear. Logistics is sort-of a dead-end. Groveport and Obetz did get a new truck stop and a Sheetz. Also Lockbourne got a place that fixes broken trailers. Yet the fast food places on Alum Creek Dr. have much shorter lines than the ones in Canal Winchester. But the warehouse earnings taxes themselves do fund these 5K population towns well. At 50K it would be much more of a drop in the bucket.
January 12, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, cbussoccer said: Many people with a 4 year degree and $30k in student loan debt would love a job paying $20/hr. But not in a warehouse at midnight.
January 12, 20214 yr 31 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said: I know but they aren't good jobs. This isn't the 1950s-1960s where those people would be earning the equivalent of $60,000 in today's money with full benefits and a pension. They're going to make $20/hr, tops, with breadcrumb benefits. DHL burned through everyone in Wilmington which is why they had to move back to CVG where they have 300% turnover but just enough people who are in bad life situations but can pass a drug test to work their midnight-8am shift. Amazon will be better only because they will have large first and second shifts and won't be entirely tilted toward the overnight hours as is DHL. This means they'll get better people working on their third shift since there is something to work toward - the normal shifts. DHL doesn't have that and never will. But my larger point was that there really is no reason to expect a bunch of spinoff businesses to appear. Logistics is sort-of a dead-end. 1) Jobs are Jobs. Everyone can’t work in tech or finance and make 100k a year. From groceries stores to gas stations to fast food restaurants to warehouse jobs all of them are important and make the world we know what it is. The people who fill these jobs pay taxes, eat at restaurants, pay rent and so on which keeps a regions economy afloat. 2) Logistics is not at all a “dead end” , in my opinion Logistics is everything. From online shopping to transportation to the military, there are a lot of opportunities and well paying ones in the industry.
January 12, 20214 yr 8 minutes ago, cbussoccer said: Many people with a 4 year degree and $30k in student loan debt would love a job paying $20/hr. Exactly!!! 20 bucks a hour in Ohio/Kentucky is actually pretty decent.
January 12, 20214 yr 8 minutes ago, GCrites80s said: But not in a warehouse at midnight. The Amazon Hub is going to operate 24/7.
January 12, 20214 yr 23 minutes ago, 646empire said: 2) Logistics is not at all a “dead end” , in my opinion Logistics is everything. From online shopping to transportation to the military, there are a lot of opportunities and well paying ones in the industry. The money in logistics is being a data analyst or IT. Also if you design/install/maintain/administer/sell RFID systems and the like. Inventory is okay but rarely high-paying. If you're driving product around or - gasp - touching it with your fingers you aren't making good money.
January 12, 20214 yr 49 minutes ago, GCrites80s said: But not in a warehouse at midnight. Financially speaking, if I have the opportunity to work third shift making $20/hr with no student loan debt, or be teacher on a $35k/year salary with $30k in student loan debt, I'll take the warehouse job. That's my point.
January 12, 20214 yr 23 minutes ago, cbussoccer said: Financially speaking, if I have the opportunity to work third shift making $20/hr with no student loan debt, or be teacher on a $35k/year salary with $30k in student loan debt, I'll take the warehouse job. That's my point. Most warehouse jobs around Cincinnati are currently paying $15-$18/hr. It's not very good money after $100+ disappear every month for healthcare and plus you probably can't take the bus so you're either carpooling or driving a car that costs you $500/mo to own and operate. Also, a lot of places drop guys on slow days so you might not get 40 hours every week.
January 12, 20214 yr Does TANK add stops when new warehouses go up? In Groveport, COTA stops at one place then people transfer to GREAT (Groveport Rickenbacker Employee Access Transit) which takes them to the individual warehouses. Edited January 12, 20214 yr by GCrites80s
January 12, 20214 yr 51 minutes ago, GCrites80s said: Does TANK add stops when new warehouses go up? In Groveport, COTA stops at one place then people transfer to GREAT (Groveport Rickenbacker Employee Access Transit) which takes them to the individual warehouses. Only DHL, I think, but I haven't ridden the bus to the airport in many years because I only flew twice in the 2010s. The airport bus uses DHL as its terminus. So it is possible to get on the outbound bus at the airport, ride to DHL, and then back to the airport 10 minutes later on your way downtown.
January 12, 20214 yr 3 hours ago, 646empire said: 1) Jobs are Jobs. Everyone can’t work in tech or finance and make 100k a year. From groceries stores to gas stations to fast food restaurants to warehouse jobs all of them are important and make the world we know what it is. The people who fill these jobs pay taxes, eat at restaurants, pay rent and so on which keeps a regions economy afloat. The point, I think, is not that these jobs shouldn't exist, but that Boone County, Ohio, Kentucky, and regional entities should not have spent millions upon millions of taxpayer dollars to subsidize them. The ROI would've been higher if we spent that money on LOTS of other things.
January 12, 20214 yr 3 hours ago, 646empire said: Exactly!!! 20 bucks a hour in Ohio/Kentucky is actually pretty decent. I would bet the vast majority of these jobs are more like $15 an hour. Also, I worked in the DHL warehouse during breaks in college. It was HELL. These people will be breaking their bodies down for that $15 per hour. If they make a career out of it they'll be on disability before they're 40.
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