January 9, 200619 yr That's what is so maddening with OTR and the West End. Saving just one or two isn't enough in these neighborhoods because of their surroundings. A rehabber would need to take over the whole block.
January 9, 200619 yr That's what is so maddening with OTR and the West End. Saving just one or two isn't enough in these neighborhoods because of their surroundings. A rehabber would need to take over the whole block. Exactly. A couple of years ago one of my professors was working with the people that developed the Cannery here in Dayton, as I guess they were looking to do a project in OTR. I guess they had a block in mind, but before they would even proceed with anything they said they would need to acquire the property on the entire block. My professor said that if it was anything short of that, they didn't feel it would be feasible for them.
January 10, 200619 yr With the history in the West End and OTR and past crime, I would be interested in knowing if any of these places are haunted? I got bad vibes from the one on the right.
January 10, 200619 yr So much potential though. I've never really explored OTR. I guess I should make a trip down there...not alone though...certainly not in that neighborhood.
January 10, 200619 yr I've never really explored OTR. I guess I should make a trip down there...not alone though...certainly not in that neighborhood. I'll give you the walking tour and no not just in findlay market, thats for lightweights aka Suburbanites.. Walking is the ONLY way to see and feel OTR's vibe. The good and the bad. Mostly good though :-P
January 11, 200619 yr I'd take any of you guys for a walking tour, preferably early in the day. True story: I was on a bike ride, exploring some new, unfamiliar areas, when I came across a group of about 30 teenagers crowded onto one corner. "This doesn't look good," I thought, and I turned around and got out of there. I heard on the news that someone was shot at that intersection that afternoon. Another true story: I was harrased by locals for taking photos. Some of them thought I was a developer who would be tearing down their homes. When three or four of them got up close, I turned and got out of there. (The preceeding two true stories did not occur in OTR, but in nearby neighborhoods.) I would recommend not bringing a camera, or at least if you do, be very discreet and quick about it. Also, be aware of your surroundings, keep an escape route, and keep moving. Having said that, walking Over-the-Rhine and surrounding areas is an experience not to be missed. It may be gone someday, for better or for worse. It is relatively safe, if you don't make a target of yourself.
January 11, 200619 yr So I'm on a roll. Here's another true story. I went to Detroit, the poster boy for urban blight, for work. The first thing I noticed upon entering the city was some one-legged guy in the middle of the street, trying to sell a large bag of green leaves to drivers stopped at red lights. We passed abandoned buildings by the thousands. We worked next to graffiti-covered walls like I've never seen before. We waded through knee-high weeds and could hear rats scurrying about underneath. My crew chief found a live round of ammunition on the ground. Finally, we stopped at a Burger King for lunch, and found that the employees worked behind bullet-proof glass, and even passed the food through a turntable. We later had the same experience at Subway. My crew chief was extremely disturbed. He said, "You must be used to this, since you're from Cincinnati."
January 11, 200619 yr I would recommend not bringing a camera I second that one which is unfortunate because there are sections of OTR that I really want to photograph. I have been chased and cursed at in OTR for taken a photo in the direction of someone's hoopie car. My crew chief was extremely disturbed. He said, "You must be used to this, since you're from Cincinnati." That is how I used to get my food in South St. Louis when I worked there. The change came back to me in a metal box.
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