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Hey anybody else from Euclid? I was born n raised, but my parents moved the fam to Colorado in 2005 when I was 13. I've been back several times, but didn't really get too spend much time in Euclid, so I was wondering whats changed in the city?

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This is probably better suited for the "Cleveland: Random Quick Questions" thread.

 

I am fairly familiar with Euclid.  My dad rented an apartment in Euclid at one time.  I grew up not far from there, but have never lived in the City myself.  I came close to buying a house off of Chardon road about 6-7 years ago.

 

Euclid essentially still is what it is.  It is getting older in housing stock and infrastructure, and the racial composition is trending more towards blacks which is leading to white flight.  But, regardless of outward appearances, it still is basically a rough around the edges, tough, blue-collar, middle class neighborhood just like it probably was when you grew up.  Not nearly as many Catholics as there once was, but still a heavy presence.  It still has a good football program at the high school.

 

Euclid Square Mall is a mess and the Palasades certainly is not the attraction it once was.  But most of the area near the lake is still nice and very walkable.

 

What concerns me about Euclid (and some of its inner-ring counterparts) is the housing stock.  It is just so bleh.  Mostly post-war, aluminum siding bungalows with very little character and not a very popular design by modern or 'timeless' standards.  Wood-framed too.  If I were looking for a place in Euclid, the only two 'nabes that would probably entice me is the one I mentioned above off of Chardon south of Euclid..... and the areas right around Lakeshore Blvd towards 260th.  But I think I prefer North Collinwood to either.  When house hunting, Euclid's extremely low property taxes catch your eye.... until you realize they make up a good bit of the difference in a higher income tax.

I lived off of 185th street on a Euclid street but it shares borders with Cleveland over there the North Collinwood neighborhood. I still know some people who live in the area. Some of them say the "crime is worse and its dangerous there now" but the couple times I've been back there I didn't feel like I was in any danger or anything. And the crime stats for Euclid aren't high. The housing stock is better over there though than other parts of Euclid, with older homes. I have alot of experince with Willowick since I have a grandmother who lives there and most neighborhoods in Euclid look similar to there with the smaller bungalows and post WW2 homes that you mentioned.

I grew up on E. 222nd street, most of my family still lives in Euclid.

 

The mortgage mess hit Euclid hard.  People always say crime is increasing, but like you, I don't see it or feel it when I visit.

 

Lincoln Electric has been doing really well the past 10 years, and they continue to invest in Euclid.  One symbol of that will be a HUGE wind tower they are erecting on its campus. 

 

 

I'm not sure if crime has actually risen in Euclid, but I would bet that reported crime has gone up.  IMO, the criminals are far less intimidating and far less influential these days. 

I would think an inner-ring suburb like Euclid would do better with high gas prices, if the bungalows could be modernized to accommodate today's home-based amenities like wide-screen TVs, entertainment centers, home offices, etc. Perhaps a clever builder can come up with a "Cleveland conversion kit" for those post-war bungalows. I seem to recall the First Suburbs Consortium was considering something like that about 10 years ago, but I don't know what ever became of that idea.

 

JUST FOUND IT!! http://www.fscdc.org/pdf/Bungalows%20FSC%20Housing%20Initiative.pdf

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I live in Euclid up above the Euclid Creek reservation.  We're kind of geographically isolated from the rest of the city here, but its nice to be by the park.  I did notice that in the latest Cleveland magazine, they had crime statistics for the local suburbs.  I didn't like how they laid it out, but one thing that caught me by surprise was how disproportionately "rape-y" Euclid is compared to the other suburbs.  It was so out of whack it seemed like it had to be a typo.

^ Georgetown Rd.?

Can't believe nobody has mentioned the city's very cool (and attainable) lakefront plan:

 

http://www.cityofeuclid.com/community/development/EuclidWaterfrontImprovementsPlan

 

I am dreaming that Lakewood will someday follow suit.

 

A friend of mine, a biologist, just relocated his family from Baltimore to Ohio. He chose Euclid, mostly because of the proximity to the lake and the waterfront plan.

 

And he's got an incredible house just a few steps from the lake.

^ Georgetown Rd.?

 

Or Glenridge or Hilltop.  I was just Google Street View-ing Hilltop a couple days ago because I was fascinated by how "out in the middle of nowhere" it feels considering it is technically (at least half) in Euclid.

^ Georgetown Rd.?

 

Katey Rose Ln.  Just off of Georgetown

 

 

 

Can't believe nobody has mentioned the city's very cool (and attainable) lakefront plan:

 

http://www.cityofeuclid.com/community/development/EuclidWaterfrontImprovementsPlan

 

I am dreaming that Lakewood will someday follow suit.

 

A friend of mine, a biologist, just relocated his family from Baltimore to Ohio. He chose Euclid, mostly because of the proximity to the lake and the waterfront plan.

 

And he's got an incredible house just a few steps from the lake.

 

I've never heard of that.  Looks awesome.  Time to do some research :)

I hadn't heard of the lakefront plan either. Thanks!

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^ Georgetown Rd.?

 

Katey Rose Ln.  Just off of Georgetown

 

 

My dad rented a place in the Georgetown complex for a year or two, so I spent a lot of weekends there.  Isolated area, but fond memories.

 

Now, I am usually cursing when passing by there.  Such a hard choice once I reach the bottom of the Euclid Creek Reservation on my bike...... take the 3 mile trek uphill through the park or try to grind it up the 1.1 mile incline on Highland..... or the worst option, Grand Blvd.

Yeah this is a really exciting plan. Here's a better link:

 

http://www.cityofeuclid.com/uploads/CSED/2009-11-05_WaterfrontImprovementsPlanFinalReport(FinalDraft-edit)-lowres.pdf

 

Very educational too. It basically goes over the historic decline of our shoreline in a nutshell with loss of beaches, erosion, over-development, dumping of concrete debris along the water, etc.

 

While I hate the "breakwall approach" of placing large rocks parallel to the coast to re-establish beaches, it does work. Maybe C-Dawg is lurking to better explain how lol.

For the person who mentioned the rapes, Euclid had 45 I believe. Most other suburbs had 0,1,2,3,4 or 5.

 

Edit: Also I believe they are in the top 5 for Violent crime/1000 with 11.35. No one compares to East Cleveland's 130.64 though

Had to be a typo.  That would have generated a lot more press if true.

Had to be a typo.  That would have generated a lot more press if true.

 

Nah, Elyria had 33 and Lorain had 57.

I've never understood why so many bungalows were built right on the lake.  "Waterfront" and "starter home" is such an odd combination.

^I think it was a mix of summer cottages, and the post war suburban house model

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I was just in the mall a couple of weeks ago and was  taken aback being the only person in the entire mall..... very eerie. But it was also cool to see  all the different storefront churches currently in place. In fact there is another one on the P&Z agenda tonight that wants to open there.

 

From the Atlantic Cities

www.theatlanticcities.com/jobs-and-economy/2011/10/holy-spirit-shopping-mall/245/

 

Holy Spirit Shopping Mall

 

Nate Berg - Oct 04, 2011

 

The indoor shopping mall, that very American invention, has seen some tough times in recent years. Chain retailers are going out of business and some malls are facing possible closure or bankruptcy. Even when exported to a rapidly growing economy like China, a massive indoor shopping mall – the biggest in the world, in fact – has only a 2 percent occupancy rate.

 

Is all hope lost for the shopping mall? Not if they have faith. Or, actually, a lot of faith, like Euclid Square Mall in Euclid, Ohio, where more than 15 churches have moved into spaces vacated by retailers. It’s a religion-fueled transition underway in a number of malls around the country, as Daily Finance.com reports.

 

As the News-Herald of Northeastern Ohio has ably documented, the Euclid Square exodus started in the late ‘90s when anchor stores started to pull out of the mall. With space for 99 stores, these days the mall is barely even a mall anymore: its website lists just 17 stores. Along with the 15 or so churches, Euclid Square is currently about one-third occupied. But that’s better than one-sixth without the churches.

 

It’s also been good for the churches, which have been able to grow from small groups to larger congregations. Rev. Martha Forrest of Faith Baptist Church has seen her congregation grow from 25 to 75 people since opening up shop in the mall.

 

[click on link for remainder of article]

Looking for something fun to do tonight?

 

This month's Planning & Zoning meeting looks to be a fun filled event.

 

There are six Land Bank sales (yes, we have a better Land Bank and vacant housing program than Lakewood), a few variance requests, a highly debated issue regarding Home Occupation, and some work on definitions to the pending Sweepstakes Terminal Cafe legislation.

 

The whole agenda can be found here: October 11, 2011 Meeting Agenda

I was just in the mall a couple of weeks ago and was  taken aback being the only person in the entire mall..... very eerie. But it was also cool to see  all the different storefront churches currently in place. In fact there is another one on the P&Z agenda tonight that wants to open there.

 

From the Atlantic Cities

www.theatlanticcities.com/jobs-and-economy/2011/10/holy-spirit-shopping-mall/245/

 

Holy Spirit Shopping Mall

 

Nate Berg - Oct 04, 2011

 

The indoor shopping mall, that very American invention, has seen some tough times in recent years. Chain retailers are going out of business and some malls are facing possible closure or bankruptcy. Even when exported to a rapidly growing economy like China, a massive indoor shopping mall – the biggest in the world, in fact – has only a 2 percent occupancy rate.

 

Is all hope lost for the shopping mall? Not if they have faith. Or, actually, a lot of faith, like Euclid Square Mall in Euclid, Ohio, where more than 15 churches have moved into spaces vacated by retailers. It’s a religion-fueled transition underway in a number of malls around the country, as Daily Finance.com reports.

 

As the News-Herald of Northeastern Ohio has ably documented, the Euclid Square exodus started in the late ‘90s when anchor stores started to pull out of the mall. With space for 99 stores, these days the mall is barely even a mall anymore: its website lists just 17 stores. Along with the 15 or so churches, Euclid Square is currently about one-third occupied. But that’s better than one-sixth without the churches.

 

It’s also been good for the churches, which have been able to grow from small groups to larger congregations. Rev. Martha Forrest of Faith Baptist Church has seen her congregation grow from 25 to 75 people since opening up shop in the mall.

 

[click on link for remainder of article]

 

Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawd.

^ hello mister

^ hello mister

WHERE THE HELL HAVE YOU BEEN?

I worked at the Koenig's and J. Rigging's in my time at the ESM, I wonder what holy ground I was folding t-shirts on?

^ hello mister

WHERE THE HELL HAVE YOU BEEN?

 

 

Oh just one of those things.

Life is good now.

So we're going from an economy where we used to make things, to an economy where we sell stuff to each other made by other countries, to where we're filling our storefronts with places to pray for money or food.

 

I suspect there's some faith-based politicians who are OK with that. And now I'm praying....

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Highest and best use, right. Besides, rent is rent..... and there's plenty of parking

Great to have you back, Musky.

From the News Hearal:

 

Organizational evaluation of Euclid PD completed following several incidentsA recently completed organizational evaluation has shed some light on controversial issues faced by the Euclid Police Department.

 

The comprehensive, 90-page report was finalized on Friday. It touches on a wide range of issues, including allegations that secret video cameras — disguised as pencil sharpeners — were placed throughout the police station to eavesdrop on officers, who at times may have been discussing union negotiations.

 

The report also touches on possible wrongdoing in the department’s property room that may have played a role in the April 20 suicide of Sgt. Kevin Blakeley, who was being questioned by investigators regarding his role in the matter when he produced a weapon and shot himself, according to a previous report from the Cuyahoga County Medical Examiner’s Office.

 

The evaluation was conducted and prepared by the Ohio Association of Chiefs of Police. Led by Newark Police Chief Steven J. Sarver and Vandalia Police Chief Douglas Knight, the evaluation involved on-site visits with city officials, including the mayor; on-site interviews with members of the police department; meetings and email exchanges with city council members and FOP members; and the review of various departmental documents.

 

The report includes a thorough analysis of departmental practices and procedures, from organizational effectiveness and field operations to disciplinary processes and labor management relations.

 

Regarding almost every issue, the OACP made recommendations regarding what steps should be taken by the department.

 

Continue reading: http://news-herald.com/articles/2011/10/18/news/doc4e9de372d0c31587189844.txt?viewmode=fullstory

 

 

From the News Herald:

 

Organizational evaluation of Euclid PD completed following several incidentsA recently completed organizational evaluation has shed some light on controversial issues faced by the Euclid Police Department.

 

The comprehensive, 90-page report was finalized on Friday. It touches on a wide range of issues, including allegations that secret video cameras — disguised as pencil sharpeners — were placed throughout the police station to eavesdrop on officers, who at times may have been discussing union negotiations.

 

The report also touches on possible wrongdoing in the department’s property room that may have played a role in the April 20 suicide of Sgt. Kevin Blakeley, who was being questioned by investigators regarding his role in the matter when he produced a weapon and shot himself, according to a previous report from the Cuyahoga County Medical Examiner’s Office.

 

The evaluation was conducted and prepared by the Ohio Association of Chiefs of Police. Led by Newark Police Chief Steven J. Sarver and Vandalia Police Chief Douglas Knight, the evaluation involved on-site visits with city officials, including the mayor; on-site interviews with members of the police department; meetings and email exchanges with city council members and FOP members; and the review of various departmental documents.

 

The report includes a thorough analysis of departmental practices and procedures, from organizational effectiveness and field operations to disciplinary processes and labor management relations.

 

Regarding almost every issue, the OACP made recommendations regarding what steps should be taken by the department.

 

Continue reading: http://news-herald.com/articles/2011/10/18/news/doc4e9de372d0c31587189844.txt?viewmode=fullstory

 

 

 

*edit: fixed a spelling error*

Celebrating Going Green

 

Date:  October 25, 2011

      Time:  10:30 AM to 11:30 AM

Location:  Euclid City Hall

 

With the completion of the PV-solar array atop Euclid Public Library, Ohio Cooperative Solar (an Evergreen Cooperative) completed the second and final phase of its largest installation, to date.

 

You are cordially invited to join us in celebrating and giving thanks to all those who made this accomplishment possible.  (City Hall is located at 585 E. 222nd Street, Euclid, OH 44123)

 

RSVP

Cliff Wood at [email protected]

Cell:  248.345.2225

 

Sponsored By:

City of Euclid, Ohio

Euclid Public Library

Ohio Cooperative Solar 

^I didn't see any of you there - we had free cookies, too. tommy.gif

 

*******************************************************************

 

 

Solar panels installed to pick up part of Euclid library's power needs

By John Funk, The Plain Dealer

 

EUCLID, Ohio -- Euclid City Hall and the city library are getting an assist from the sun for electric lighting. Ohio Cooperative Solar, an employee-owned solar installation company, has completed massive solar panel arrays on the rooftop of each building.

 

The nearly 700 solar panels will generate a maximum of 155,000 watts -- and over a year will contribute between 10 percent and 15 percent of the power needs of each building, said Cliff Wood, CEO of the cooperative.

 

The city dedicated the projects Tuesday.

 

The Euclid solar arrays are the largest the 2-year-old company has completed, said Wood.

 

 

Continued: http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2011/10/post_89.html

 

musky, are you working for the City of Euclid?

mhmmm

Cool, my two brothers have houses in Euclid and my Mom is still there!

Things are looking bright for this fine city

Architectural Review Board meeting agenda for tomorrow. If you are sign geek, you might be interested

 

October 27, 2011 Meeting Agenda

 

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Internet Sweepstakes Cafes are coming to Euclid.

 

City Council passed legislation last night to allow the cafes to start operation withing the city limits. There was previously a one year moratorium on the businesses, which was extended while the City anticipated some sort of regulation from the state. That may still come, but Euclid felt it was necessary to set some rules on where they are allowed before the state has its say, thus preventing any grandfathering. As of this morning, at least two separate parties have begun the process.

^Are you serious!!!  WTF!

Well, there is one right at the CLE/Euclid border, and Richmond Hts. just approved them.

And there has been plenty of businesses looking to locate here. it was just a matter of time.

^I think there's 3 in Willowick too. They've got you surrounded.

Musky- what type of businesses have been looking to locate in Euclid, and where?  It would be great to see some reuse of some of the buildings and land along St. Clair, along with the large swath of land east of the mall.

I agree, it would be.

But there is nothing big that is ready to move in. There are always calls though.

The former Cleveland Trencher site is about to go through some demo and cleaning that will open up major acreage to a potential developer (similar to the old PMX site).

 

However, there will be a (hopefully) big announcement next year about a big, um... entity moving south of the mall near the RTA Stop and Ride.

 

triniti.gifShhhhhhhhhh

Can we get the internet cafes to move into the mall?  Just put them in a different branch than the churches, it should all work out ok. :)

I would not be surprised if at least one church tries to open one

Anything going on East of the mall, in the new Bluestone Industrial park?

Sears

 

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The former Alexanders Restaurant is being demolished today. The owner wants to place a McDonalds there and plans have been submitted, but no approvals have been given. There is currently some back and forth between he City and the EPA regarding capacity at the water treatment plant to the north. Until that is resolved there will likely be no new development (if any at all) on this site.

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