and let me remind you that cable tv went out with phone cords and seinfeld phones. i don't know anybody, from cle to the ues and tribeca to tha hood, that has cable tv. better get back to work lol!

all those people have cable.  They need it to watch NBA TV, NBA.com (and all associated ventures), CNN, and Game of Thrones.  Not to mention men and Lesbians want that special SI Swimsuit interactive issue.

Lots of stories like this around the media these days, I wonder if there's any value to the Cavs really emphasizing the "All for one..." motto in relation to broader city.  Maybe Sherwin Williams could put up a new ad with Lebron AND the many other icons of Cleveland to promote that we don't start and end with celebrity.

 

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101834974

 

"Cleveland is an overnight comeback ...35 years in the making"  one of the commentators on CNN said yesterday.  I like the sound of it.

Lots of stories like this around the media these days, I wonder if there's any value to the Cavs really emphasizing the "All for one..." motto in relation to broader city.  Maybe Sherwin Williams could put up a new ad with Lebron AND the many other icons of Cleveland to promote that we don't start and end with celebrity.

 

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101834974

 

"Cleveland is an overnight comeback ...35 years in the making"  one of the commentators on CNN said yesterday.  I like the sound of it.

I DIDN'T!  I normally do not dip my toes in divisional business but I do make an effort to enlighten without crossing the "church" and "state" lines or my moral and contractual obligations.

When did we (and the national media reporting on us) become so obsessed with the myth that there is some silver bullet out there which will all of sudden reverse global trends affecting our City.  We can't seem to celebrate the signs of improvement, as many incremental signs as there may be, both large and small, because none of them are 'THE fix'.  There is no fix.  Don't let that simple truth get in the way of celebrating each inch we progress.

^  Well said.

Incremental growth is much more sustainable than silver bullets. How many of us remember cities' silver-bullet approaches following the demise of major industries in the 1970s and 80s? A plant would close and thousands of jobs would be lost, but city leaders tried to grab another large factory to replace it. Or a museum. Or some tourist trap. Instead, the city leaders didn't attempt to cluster or incubate the next innovative commercial successes because those actions couldn't show meaningful results before the next election. Yet it's clearly the more sustainable and resilient course of action. Fortunately, we started seeing those approaches take hold in the 1990s and 2000s in our urban areas. And its why America's 50-100 largest cities are the engines of economic growth following the Great Recession. Cleveland has certainly been among them.

When did we (and the national media reporting on us) become so obsessed with the myth that there is some silver bullet out there which will all of sudden reverse global trends affecting our City.  We can't seem to celebrate the signs of improvement, as many incremental signs as there may be, both large and small, because none of them are 'THE fix'.  There is no fix.  Don't let that simple truth get in the way of celebrating each inch we progress.

 

I've oftne said there is no "magic bullet" but think of all the things Frank has said and done over the past decade.  Yes he lost Eaton to the burbs, but that was not his fault.  Hes been responsible and frugal, but has brought the city together to plan and not just downtown.  I think he's been a good steward of the city, not great, yet not terrible.

 

I'll repeat my broken record, this is where the city/county/NE Ohio and Positively Cleveland need to bust out new campaigns to show the city in a positive light.  Show we have respect for our manufacturing roots although we are now a "white color city", tourist destination, dining destination, have unique neighborhoods, good city amenities, professional sports, colleges, young people and things that interest them along with all the national and world class cultural institutions.

It seems like the term 'magic bullet' has been replaced with 'catalytic'

It seems like the term 'magic bullet' has been replaced with 'catalytic'

 

I'll repeat my broken record, this is where the city/county/NE Ohio and Positively Cleveland need to bust out new campaigns to show the city in a positive light.  Show we have respect for our manufacturing roots although we are now a "white color city"

 

"Cleveland - the white color city"  :)

I'll repeat my broken record, this is where the city/county/NE Ohio and Positively Cleveland need to bust out new campaigns to show the city in a positive light.  Show we have respect for our manufacturing roots although we are now a "white color city"

 

"Cleveland - the white color city"  :)

Positively Cleveland IS in the midst of a new branding campaign for Cleveland.  It just launched in April and targets contiguous markets and those individuals likely to make a weekend trip into the city.  This brand launch may not be evident to all those here since the media is targeted to outside of our market.

Yes he lost Eaton to the burbs, but that was not his fault. 

 

Point of clarification: Cleveland didn't entirely lose Eaton:

 

The Richard E. Jacobs Group, of Westlake, would develop an Eaton project there, on land owned by the city of Cleveland. Jacobs referred all questions to Eaton. Though Cleveland would lose workers and taxes if Eaton moved, the city would make money on the land sale and would get a 50 percent cut of income tax generated by Eaton under a joint economic development agreement with Beachwood.

http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2008/09/eaton_to_move_to_chagrin_highl.html

Yes he lost Eaton to the burbs, but that was not his fault. 

 

Point of clarification: Cleveland didn't entirely lose Eaton:

 

The Richard E. Jacobs Group, of Westlake, would develop an Eaton project there, on land owned by the city of Cleveland. Jacobs referred all questions to Eaton. Though Cleveland would lose workers and taxes if Eaton moved, the city would make money on the land sale and would get a 50 percent cut of income tax generated by Eaton under a joint economic development agreement with Beachwood.

http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2008/09/eaton_to_move_to_chagrin_highl.html

 

I think we all know what you posted, but I was specifically meant the downtown office location.

This is a tough article to place as it covers multiple topics of innovation, economic influx, and perception.  Since the main point of this article is the power of narrative, I feel it goes best in this thread.  Attitude and perception have some much power for both current residents and perspective developers/visitors/businesses.  Let's keep the positive mojo flowing!!

 

The LeBron Effect: Why Narrative Matters To Regional Innovation

 

On July 11, I was at the City Club of Cleveland listening to the EPA’s Chris Korleski speak to business leaders and policymakers about the economic impact of the Great Lakes on Northeast Ohio and other regions. Just before the event kicked off, news broke that LeBron James had decided to return to the Cleveland Cavaliers. For a few minutes his announcement caught everybody’s attention and some in the room seemed to have forgotten why they were even there.

 

As if wanting to recapture their attention, Korleski, after he got on stage, asked with a smirk: “Uh, who’s LeBron James?”

 

Korleski’s tongue-in-cheek comment stuck with me, because in the weeks since, LeBron has dominated the headlines in and about Cleveland. There were articles in The Wall Street Journal, Bloomberg and others speculating about his economic impact on the city.

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rebeccabagley/2014/08/01/the-lebron-effect-why-narrative-matters-to-regional-innovation/

The pendulum has swung, the Cleveland narritive has changed.  Get ready to start complaining about all the new people moving to the city :)

"I think a region’s or an organization’s ability to innovate is as much about attitude as it is about resources."

It's fine to think that, but the author doesn't provide any concrete examples that explicate that supposition.

Looks like the Cleveland skyline made it on a Gotham promotion!

Looks like the Cleveland skyline made it on a Gotham promotion!

 

Perhaps a bit of context or an explanation would help here.

Looks like the Cleveland skyline made it on a Gotham promotion!

 

Perhaps a bit of context or an explanation would help here.

 

Flip through the images and you will see what uastudent12 is referencing...

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=Gotham+promotion&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=7CneU6OEC8WMyASKuYLwDQ&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1607&bih=792&dpr=0.85#facrc=_&imgdii=Y7F8-P2RKNnLAM%3A%3B4HLqOumVFRL3zM%3BY7F8-P2RKNnLAM%3A&imgrc=Y7F8-P2RKNnLAM%253A%3BzWn4zRWArNmN_M%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.theyoungfolks.com%252Fwp-content%252Fuploads%252F2014%252F05%252FGotham.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.theyoungfolks.com%252Ftelevision%252Ftv-news-foxs-gotham-releases-first-trailer%252F32277%3B620%3B320

I looked at the images that pulled up but didn't see anything resembling Cleveland's skyline. Please post the direct link to the image or video in question.

I see the TT and 200 PS.

 

I saw that last night but I couldn't post the image for some reason... Here is another view.

^ That's awesome!

You guys think those are the terminal tower and other Cleveland skyscrappers?  :? 8) ;) >:D

si demelo los skyscrappers papi!

I saw it in ine if the first commercials....but was too lazy to find do a screen grab.:(

si demelo los skyscrappers papi!

HUH?

Look out for new Time Warner Cable commercial featuring Thomas Lawrence of Cleveland's GPI designs

Hmmmm..... I like it

 

"If you haven't been to Cleveland in the last five years, you haven't been to Cleveland," Enid Mickelsen, who led the Republican National Committee's site-selection team, told a conference of party activists.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2014/08/republicans_salute_cleveland_a.html#incart_m-rpt-1

Hmmmm..... I like it

 

"If you haven't been to Cleveland in the last five years, you haven't been to Cleveland," Enid Mickelsen, who led the Republican National Committee's site-selection team, told a conference of party activists.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2014/08/republicans_salute_cleveland_a.html#incart_m-rpt-1

 

Reminds me of the TV commercial and jingle from my youth -- "If you haven't seen Higbee's today, you haven't seen Higbee's!"

 

 

Based on all of his twitter and instagram posts, LeBron sure is pushing "The Land"..... oftentimes adding #TheLand to his posts, especially when reference is made to Cleveland.  That is actually what my friends and I have always most commonly called it amongst ourselves.

Does anyone know why the NEORSD uses promotional billboards with the word "Sewer" so prominently?

 

To me this is very strange. I realize that's part of their name, but is that smart marketing to have "Sewer" billboards by Edgewater Park? Talk about negative connotation.

 

San Diego and other cities use the more neutral term "Wastewater." We should follow suit.

In this town we call it as it is! Actually, in both the poster and the logo the word "sewer" should be in brown.

In this town we call it as it is! Actually, in both the poster and the logo the word "sewer" should be in brown.

 

And the water.

why does the sewer district even spend our money on promotions and advertisements? The same question for First Energy. Do we have any choice in these services that theyre trying to compete with for our business?

The answer is yes you do have a choice depending on where you live within the city of Cleveland for electric.

 

I'd argue the reasons for the promotions is that both those organization s have had negative publicity and a poor public perception the last couple of years. These ads may be them trying to change perceptions.

New Destination Cleveland video:

They show a headline: "Gay Games brought $52 Million to Cleveland".  Why that instead of something along the lines of a successful or most-attended games? Are they marketing to the world or to the convention industry inside the city?  Seems like  the very wrong message to send.

I think they are marketing to the citizens of Greater Cleveland

The view from the lake @ 1:42 is just awesome.

Decent video, terrible music. Really cheesy, Mannheim Steamroller type of vibe to that score.

***Warning: mini rant***

I was driving in my car last week and there was an advertisement on the radio for the Aloft downtown Cleveland. The manager of the hotel was speaking and saying how it is a great place to stay for upcoming Tribe games. I kept waiting for him to mention their proximity to the rapid to get to the games. Finally, he says something along the lines of "ride our free shuttle to and from all the games!" I was so disappointed. One of their greatest advantages over other hotels is their proximity to the rapid and there wasn't even a mention of it. The lack of acknowledgement of the rapid is pretty pathetic and should be used as a selling point for people visiting the city.

 

I couldn't find a hotel discussion thread so I thought this would be the most appropriate. Feel free to move if there's a better thread.

^Especially funny/sad, given that many of the reviews of the Aloft on travel sites complain about the noise of the WFL crossing gates.

But would you actually use the WFL to get from Aloft to the game?  I probably wouldn't.  All it would do is take you to TC and then you'd have to take the walkway (i.e. hamster tube).  The shuttle would at least drop you off at the gate.  It's an option I suppose is worth mentioning, but in all honesty I personally would probably just walk.  The only time I use the WFL is when I am arriving in or leaving downtown via Rapid.  I don't use it to escort me from one downtown location to another.

I've seen the waterfront line's gate get stuck down and continue ring ring ringing for hours late at night.

I have no issues with them having a shuttle but I think being near the rapid is at least worth mentioning even if it's just to say it goes directly to the casino (or an easy trip to the airport).

But would you actually use the WFL to get from Aloft to the game?  I probably wouldn't.  All it would do is take you to TC and then you'd have to take the walkway (i.e. hamster tube).  The shuttle would at least drop you off at the gate.  It's an option I suppose is worth mentioning, but in all honesty I personally would probably just walk.  The only time I use the WFL is when I am arriving in or leaving downtown via Rapid.  I don't use it to escort me from one downtown location to another.

 

I would definitely walk it, but FWIW, if you time the rapid schedule to remove wait time from the equation, the WFL would shave off about 10 minutes, according to googlemap estimates. It's about a 1 mile walk, which is considered "far" by many domestic travelers.  You're right, though, that the shuttle would be a lot faster.

Anyone notice that LeBron used the term "The Forest City" the other day? I think it was in the interview with Wade, but I'm not sure.

 

We should bring that back though.

But would you actually use the WFL to get from Aloft to the game?  I probably wouldn't.  All it would do is take you to TC and then you'd have to take the walkway (i.e. hamster tube).  The shuttle would at least drop you off at the gate.  It's an option I suppose is worth mentioning, but in all honesty I personally would probably just walk.  The only time I use the WFL is when I am arriving in or leaving downtown via Rapid.  I don't use it to escort me from one downtown location to another.

 

But you're familiar with Cleveland.  For visitors, esp 1st time visitors, try giving them walking directions to The Pro or the Q.  Also consider that the first part of the walk is a short, but steep, uphill walk under the gloomy Shoreway Main Ave bridge.  Also note that Aloft is advertising a shuttle to and from the stadium, so even the Aloft folks realize that it's a challenging walk, esp for out-of-towners... I know it's fashionable for folks to believe the Waterfront Line is useless, even when the trains stop practically right in front of the hotel...

 

I've heard the ad too (and seen Aloft's website touting the shuttle van as well)...

 

... You also forget that the Waterfront Line is also useful for the Rock Hall, which is about 1 mile away (and also uphill from the Aloft), but you never hear any mention of it.  As tradition7 notes, more people gripe about the Rapid than use it... And as you can see, even on this board, people make excuses and reasons why not to use trains as opposed to reasons for using them... Is it any wonder why our train system is so lightly used, esp by Clevelanders?