Anyone notice that LeBron used the term "The Forest City" the other day? I think it was in the interview with Wade, but I'm not sure.

 

We should bring that back though.

 

There's a rumor he's trying to get Wade to consider coming here.

Anyone notice that LeBron used the term "The Forest City" the other day? I think it was in the interview with Wade, but I'm not sure.

 

We should bring that back though.

 

There's a rumor he's trying to get Wade to consider coming here.

 

Love D. Wade, but the last thing the Cavs need right now is another injury-prone star, don't you think?

Anyone notice that LeBron used the term "The Forest City" the other day? I think it was in the interview with Wade, but I'm not sure.

 

We should bring that back though.

 

There's a rumor he's trying to get Wade to consider coming here.

 

Love D. Wade, but the last thing the Cavs need right now is another injury-prone star, don't you think?

 

I agree, but that's the rumor.

Anyone notice that LeBron used the term "The Forest City" the other day? I think it was in the interview with Wade, but I'm not sure.

 

We should bring that back though.

 

No.  "Best location in the nation" should be brought back.  It speaks to many people, business, regardless of age, race, location, financial status, social status or corporate association.

^ You mean, "Best location in the nation." And I think that just sounds laughable to most people. Sorta of like when Baltimore started with the "Greatest City in America" slogan.

^ You mean, "Best location in the nation." And I think that just sounds laughable to most people. Sorta of like when Baltimore started with the "Greatest City in America" slogan.

OH GAWD.  Thanks I changed that.  I can't believe I wrote that!

 

Yes, BEST location in the nation.  I've always loved this slogan, because it was adopted by our largest corporations and the campaigns featured regional icons.

Agreed, The Forest City should be used more often.  Best Location in the Nation is an opinion and a rather lame slogan.

Agreed, The Forest City should be used more often.

 

I like Forest City too. And if we ever get a pro soccer team, I definitely like the ring of "Forest City S.C."

I think the whole Best Location in the Nation thing is a little too easy to poke fun at. (Kind of like that sign on I-71 that proclaims Ashland, Ohio as the "World Headquarters of Nice People.") Plus it's generic, why don't we actually say something about our city?

 

Forest City puts us [back] in the big leagues. It harkens back to a time when poetic big city names were common, ala the Windy City, the City of Brotherly Love, the Queen City, the Steel City, the Music City, the Motor City, the City of Angels, and of course the City that Never Sleeps. Plus it creates images of greenness and lushness, so it also puts us in the 21st century.

 

EDIT: Apparently the nickname actually comes from Tocqueville:

 

In Alexis de Tocqueville’s Democracy in America, which contains the Frenchman’s observations of the United States in the 1830s, he described Cleveland as a highly sophisticated society amid a heavily forested environment.

 

http://www.forestcityforever.com/fye/2012/07/20/the-forest-city/

We ought to turn all that lake-effect precipitation into a positive! The end result is that we get thick vegetation and really big trees, hence our "forest city."

I think the whole Best Location in the Nation thing is a little too easy to poke fun at. (Kind of like that sign on I-71 that proclaims Ashland, Ohio as the "World Headquarters of Nice People.") Plus it's generic, why don't we actually say something about our city?

 

Forest City puts us [back] in the big leagues. It harkens back to a time when poetic big city names were common, ala the Windy City, the City of Brotherly Love, the Queen City, the Steel City, the Music City, the Motor City, the City of Angels, and of course the City that Never Sleeps. Plus it creates images of greenness and lushness, so it also puts us in the 21st century.

 

EDIT: Apparently the nickname actually comes from Tocqueville:

 

In Alexis de Tocqueville’s Democracy in America, which contains the Frenchman’s observations of the United States in the 1830s, he described Cleveland as a highly sophisticated society amid a heavily forested environment.

 

http://www.forestcityforever.com/fye/2012/07/20/the-forest-city/

 

It has never been easy to poke fun in the past and it would not be in the future.

But, honestly, driving through Cleveland, no one thinks Forest City anymore, far from it. Using a "name" that no longer applies isn't useful. Chicago is still the City of Big Shoulders, its politics still make it "Windy." NYC, still never sleeps, it is the Empire City. San Francisco is still the Golden Gate City etc. Portland is the Forest City, maybe even Sacremento, but Cleveland can't call itself something that it's not, since the only reason it was called the Forest City (1830's) is because it wasn't yet fully developed as a metropolis.

 

Cleveland needs to build on its medical reputation.

 

The Greek god, Asclepius [uh-sklee-pee-uh s], comes to mind, not only was he the god of Healing and Medicine, he also brought people back to life, how fitting for a city near death to utilize the name of the healer.  I kinda like CLE being present in the name. It would be a cool name for a condo highrise, hotel or even exclusive urban neighborhood. The Asclepian Hotel, Asclepian Hts subdivision, or The Asclepius as a condo tower all sound cool. Asclepian Way would be cool for the Opportunity Corridor or renaming Chester Ave. Just my thoughts...

I think the whole Best Location in the Nation thing is a little too easy to poke fun at. (Kind of like that sign on I-71 that proclaims Ashland, Ohio as the "World Headquarters of Nice People.") Plus it's generic, why don't we actually say something about our city?

 

Forest City puts us [back] in the big leagues. It harkens back to a time when poetic big city names were common, ala the Windy City, the City of Brotherly Love, the Queen City, the Steel City, the Music City, the Motor City, the City of Angels, and of course the City that Never Sleeps. Plus it creates images of greenness and lushness, so it also puts us in the 21st century.

 

EDIT: Apparently the nickname actually comes from Tocqueville:

 

In Alexis de Tocqueville’s Democracy in America, which contains the Frenchman’s observations of the United States in the 1830s, he described Cleveland as a highly sophisticated society amid a heavily forested environment.

 

http://www.forestcityforever.com/fye/2012/07/20/the-forest-city/

 

It has never been easy to poke fun in the past and it would not be in the future.

 

Uhh, yeah, it is kinda easy to make fun of. That's why he said it.

I've asked before and I'll ask again; has anyone here ever heard of another place in America that uses the word "Sewer" as a marketing tool?

Hmm...just a few: http://bfy.tw/SP8

 

If our friends downstate in the Queen City do it, it can't be all that bad, right?

Gah, this thing again? 'The best location in the nation' is way too old fashioned and irrelevant to what we are today. Something a young Dick Feagler might say, before Higbees crushed his heart and stole his spirit.

 

I think we should go with eCleveland, or iCleveland. Something with a vowel in front. Kids today like lower cased vowels

"Forest City" at least has the history behind it, plus it's fashionably green.  It's also notable that as you come in from the west on the turnpike, there are barely any trees for hours until you enter this metro.  We should be working that.

Hmm...just a few: http://bfy.tw/SP8

 

If our friends downstate in the Queen City do it, it can't be all that bad, right?

 

That link sent me to NEORSD as the top result lol.

 

Seriously, does Cincy put the word "Sewer" in a nice, script font near where people swim? This is a negative association if I ever saw one.

 

It's bad marketing.

But it's marketing for the sewer district... how could they not say sewer? It's not like it's marketing the city.

I think we're over thinking here.  At present, cleveland needs no marketing gimmick. Most anything happening in cleveland seems to gain positive press. Whatever nickname coalesces around cleveland will come from outside.

But, honestly, driving through Cleveland, no one thinks Forest City anymore, far from it. Using a "name" that no longer applies isn't useful. Chicago is still the City of Big Shoulders, its politics still make it "Windy." NYC, still never sleeps, it is the Empire City. San Francisco is still the Golden Gate City etc. Portland is the Forest City, maybe even Sacremento, but Cleveland can't call itself something that it's not, since the only reason it was called the Forest City (1830's) is because it wasn't yet fully developed as a metropolis.

 

 

By THIS logic, Pittsburgh needs to drop the "Steel City" and rename its football team...

But, honestly, driving through Cleveland, no one thinks Forest City anymore, far from it. Using a "name" that no longer applies isn't useful. Chicago is still the City of Big Shoulders, its politics still make it "Windy." NYC, still never sleeps, it is the Empire City. San Francisco is still the Golden Gate City etc. Portland is the Forest City, maybe even Sacremento, but Cleveland can't call itself something that it's not, since the only reason it was called the Forest City (1830's) is because it wasn't yet fully developed as a metropolis.

 

 

By THIS logic, Pittsburgh needs to drop the "Steel City" and rename its football team...

 

And Cincinnati is no longer the largest inland American city (aka Queen City of the West), so might as well stop calling it the Queen City.

I would say Cleveland still qualifies as the Forest City.  From atop the buildings downtown, pretty much all you see is a giant carpet of green in any direction.

Alright... Is someone on here working for CLE Clothing? Lol they just posted a whole narrative on the nicknames of Cleveland on their Facebook.

ok, go with the Forest City, lol. Let's see how that works. I think a medical theme makes sense.  Let's agree to disagree, by the way, United States Steel Corp.  is still located and makes steel in Pittsburgh, while Forest City Enterprises continues to move their business out of the city.

I would say Cleveland still qualifies as the Forest City.  From atop the buildings downtown, pretty much all you see is a giant carpet of green in any direction.

 

As long as you're not on Euclid Avenue... looking straight down at the sidewalks between Public Square and Playhouse Square. I can't remember how long it's been that way but the lopped-off tree stubs, rusting 'MEH' (initials of the artist who designed them) grates and uneven pavers aren't doing any favors for marketing the city.

A friend of mine from Chicago marvels at how thick our vegetation is in Greater Cleveland. A friend from Columbus marvels at how big our trees are.

 

Both are due to the weather phenomenon we curse here -- lake effect precipitation. But it brings us the vegetation that gave us the name Forest City which was reflected in our nickname well into the 20th century. That names was reflected in the names of businesses like Forest City Enterprises, Forest City Hardware, Forest City Auto Parts, and more. A once-famous streamliner run by the New York Central RR between Chicago and Cleveland until the 1960s was called The Forest City. Do a Google search for other references.

 

I say we celebrate and nurture the good side of our lake effect -- a forest city!

MayDay[/member] do you have that pic of the CLE skyline from University Circle ( maybe it was your Hot In Cleveland pic)

 

Every time I saw that pic I thought, "wow, we are a Forest city"

But it's marketing for the sewer district... how could they not say sewer? It's not like it's marketing the city.

 

Honest question: you're from out of town and you're driving your family for a day at the beach. Right on the doorstep to Edgewater Park is the word SEWER prominently displayed.

 

Tell me, how do you feel about going into the water?

 

How is this any different than marketing the Sewer District on bottled drinking water? It would be stupid.

 

This reflects negatively on Cleveland. The NEORSD is a public entity IN CLEVELAND. This strategic advertising absolutely hurts the process of selling the city as a beach and water sports destination.

 

I honestly don't know how anyone could possibly think it's a good idea to "market" the Sewer District in that way. And for that matter, most jurisdictions use benign terms like "Wastewater" in their name, not "Sewer" and it is precisely because of the negative connotation. Cleveland has a honest to God legacy of horrid polluted water. It's in the city's best interest to distance itself from the connection of Lake Erie and the "Sewer."

 

 

 

 

^ I would rather use the term "sewer" than "wastewater."

^ I would rather use the term "sewer" than "wastewater."

That's your right. But virtually every other beach community has changed or backed away from the term because of negative association.

 

Miami Beach: Public Works Miami Beach

Outer Banks: Southern Outer Banks Water System

San Diego: SD Wastewater/Public Utilities

Atlantic City: Atlantic City Municipal Utilities Authority

Malibu: Civic Center Wastewater

 

I've traveled almost every inch of coastline in the U.S. I've just never seen this type of marketing any place else. Though if Myrtle Beach uses this ad on a billboard anytime soon I'd be very surprised lol.

 

 

ok, go with the Forest City, lol. Let's see how that works. I think a medical theme makes sense.  Let's agree to disagree, by the way, United States Steel Corp.  is still located and makes steel in Pittsburgh, while Forest City Enterprises continues to move their business out of the city.

 

From what I understand there isn't a pound of steel made in the city limits of Pittsburgh anymore.

^^Why is NORSD marketing itself at the beach? That seems like a bigger question than its name.

^^Why is NORSD marketing itself at the beach? That seems like a bigger question than its name.

 

Because they can and it keeps people working on things which can't be objectively measured.

From what I understand there isn't a pound of steel made in the city limits of Pittsburgh anymore.

 

Not since the 1980s. But most of Pittsburgh's steel mills were historically in its industrial valley inner-ring suburbs, especially in the Mon Valley.

^^Why is NORSD marketing itself at the beach? That seems like a bigger question than its name.

 

Because they can and it keeps people working on things which can't be objectively measured.

 

Speaking of measured, the sewage content in the water has made the idea of swimming just a bit unpalatable.

 

"YOUR SEWER......DISTRICT"

 

p.s. for the record, I have good friends in NEORSD and realize they do some good stuff :-)

But it's marketing for the sewer district... how could they not say sewer? It's not like it's marketing the city.

 

Honest question: you're from out of town and you're driving your family for a day at the beach. Right on the doorstep to Edgewater Park is the word SEWER prominently displayed.

 

Tell me, how do you feel about going into the water?

 

How is this any different than marketing the Sewer District on bottled drinking water? It would be stupid.

 

This reflects negatively on Cleveland. The NEORSD is a public entity IN CLEVELAND. This strategic advertising absolutely hurts the process of selling the city as a beach and water sports destination.

 

I honestly don't know how anyone could possibly think it's a good idea to "market" the Sewer District in that way. And for that matter, most jurisdictions use benign terms like "Wastewater" in their name, not "Sewer" and it is precisely because of the negative connotation. Cleveland has a honest to God legacy of horrid polluted water. It's in the city's best interest to distance itself from the connection of Lake Erie and the "Sewer."

 

 

 

 

 

I didn't realize that that graphic was displayed at Edgewater. I thought you just pulled a random graphic from the sewer district's website and were upset that it said 'sewer,' haha.

But it's marketing for the sewer district... how could they not say sewer? It's not like it's marketing the city.

 

Honest question: you're from out of town and you're driving your family for a day at the beach. Right on the doorstep to Edgewater Park is the word SEWER prominently displayed.

 

Tell me, how do you feel about going into the water?

 

How is this any different than marketing the Sewer District on bottled drinking water? It would be stupid.

 

This reflects negatively on Cleveland. The NEORSD is a public entity IN CLEVELAND. This strategic advertising absolutely hurts the process of selling the city as a beach and water sports destination.

 

I honestly don't know how anyone could possibly think it's a good idea to "market" the Sewer District in that way. And for that matter, most jurisdictions use benign terms like "Wastewater" in their name, not "Sewer" and it is precisely because of the negative connotation. Cleveland has a honest to God legacy of horrid polluted water. It's in the city's best interest to distance itself from the connection of Lake Erie and the "Sewer."

 

 

 

 

 

I didn't realize that that graphic was displayed at Edgewater. I thought you just pulled a random graphic from the sewer district's website and were upset that it said 'sewer,' haha.

 

Sorry I wasn't clearer. Yeah my whole thing is the proximity. It is a sad fact that our only swimming beach is so close to the Sewage treatment facility. In my home town in NJ the sewage facility was also close to the beach, but it was set back in the marsh/woods and very well hidden. Tourists were none the wiser. Sensitive issue because like CLE, NJ has it's own bad history of water pollution that they've been working very hard to distance themselves from.

Signage or not until this massive project to resolve the stormwater overflow into lake erie is completed we will still have very real problems.  It's frustrating seeing headlines twice in 2 weeks that lake erie beaches are unsafe because summer storms (which will always happen) cause overflows that make swimming and being in the water hazardous to people's health.  The dugway can't be completed fast enough.

Well according to my conversation with them yesterday, it's going to take 25 years. So yeah.

How Millennials Are Reviving Cleveland

Citylab  |  By Eric Jaffe

Posted: 06/24/2015 1:27 pm EDT Updated: 1 hour ago

 

This story originally appeared on Citylab.

 

In reporting an Atlantic piece on James Corner’s fantastic redesign of Cleveland’s Public Square, I was surprised by the strength of the city’s downtown revival. After a tailspin in the 1980s, Cleveland’s downtown population soared 32 percent from 1990 to 2000—the biggest rise of any Midwest city (including Chicago) and far above the regional average (7.7 percent), according to Brookings. The climb has continued at pace; last summer downtown reportedly reached an “all-time high” of 12,500, with an astonishing residential occupancy rate of 98 percent.

 

Call the oversight a bad case of East Coast bias. Though I don’t think I’m alone in missing downtown Cleveland’s rise. David Fields of transportation planning consultancy Nelson\Nygaard, who led the traffic analysis for Public Square, describes the area’s growth as “totally underestimated” from a national perspective.

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/24/millennials-downtown-cleveland_n_7655508.html

Two things we can't get enough of in Cleveland, downtown promotional videos and Cle themed t-shirts. Well in the latest promo video from Destination Cleveland you get both!

 

Ha, I just posted it on FB as well. Really love it!

Best one yet.

I bet some of our UO peeps could contribute valuable info to this guide:

 

http://beltmag.com/the-cleveland-neighborhood-guidebook-call-for-proposals/

cleveland needs big freedia bounce promotional video like new orleans has:

 

 

^That video was painful to watch and listen to.

^ lol - not a nola bounce music fan, eh?

I hope some of our Cleveland peeps are entering this. I have a lot of ideas, small and large, but no interest in being the one to push for making them happen or in shepherding them through to completion or I'd submit them. But you guys have some great ideas and energy. I'd love to see an UO person get an award!

 

http://www.cleveleads.org/Accelerate2016/Pitch-Page

Had this pop-up in my Facebook news feed this morning...

 

http://m.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2015/11/02/cleveland-is-now-a-vacation-destination-on-the-price-is-right

 

I feel like they could've done a better job with the description!