Sure, but places like Nashville and Austin still use it as the centerpiece of their appeal.  I would say that climate, plus investment in the Rock Hall and the image surrounding it, makes live music venues even more important for Cleveland.

 

Yet the City of Cleveland makes it as difficult as anywhere for live music with admissions taxes and withholding on non-resident artists. 

 

^This.

 

^^Having some clubs is certainly important.  But the numbers are never going to be close to the same.  Closing will outnumber openings and places that are set up to host will only end up doing so rarely.  If ever.  We used to, but it does not pay for itself and has not for some time.

This mansion is currently being demolished:

 

http://westparkhistory.com/Articles/Marquard/marquardhse.htm

That's too bad. For what?

^ I don't know.  I just saw someone post it on Facebook.  Rumor has it that the church owns the property.

9 hours ago, freefourur said:

This mansion is currently being demolished:

 

http://westparkhistory.com/Articles/Marquard/marquardhse.htm

 

Ugh. There are few houses like this on the west side off the lake. And now there is one fewer. Like I said, ugh.

 

Rumor mill, just heard that the building that houses Indian Flame is being torn down.

Bummer, that is not cool, I love the mix of old new on that little strip.

Recent demolition from last year on woodland near the E55th intersection, I'm not sure if this was already posted on here but it was one of the last pieces of the E55th and Woodland intersection.

The building at the corner of E71st and Central was demolished last summer.

This summer on Orinoco Ave in East Cleveland.

Cross-posted in the housing market thread. Glas to see the abandonment/vacated housing has dropped significantly...

 

nice article about the former yugoslav concrete utopia moma exhibit that loops in randall park mall and the holiday inn:

 

https://www.cleveland.com/expo/life-and-culture/erry-2018/12/9ef69fc4692428/concrete-utopia-architecture-o.html

On 10/15/2018 at 10:00 PM, freefourur said:

This mansion is currently being demolished:

 

http://westparkhistory.com/Articles/Marquard/marquardhse.htm

 

Found two sections of the front columns on Lorain Ave today. 

There are really few buildings that truly are “unsalvageable”.   What they mean is that no one was willing to spend the money to renovate it. Or usually, it was in the way of a developer’s next project.  Terms like unsalvageable or “falling apart” are just excuses most of the time. 

I'd love it if the historic buildings getting torn down around this city were falling to developers in a hurry to build on their land, but let's be honest, most become grassy lots for a long, long time.

Just your periodic reminder that a mansion in Detroit went from this:

 

 

 

to this:

 

 

Nothing, and I repeat, nothing is "unsalvageable". It just comes down to whether or not someone wants to cough up the money and values their building's contribution to its environment. 

Edited February 10, 20196 yr by BigDipper 80

Some of those restorations in Brush park are amazing, but let's not forget that most of that neighborhood is long gone- they certainly never figured out how to make these sort of extreme salvage operations economic on a wide scale.

On 3/13/19 The City of Cleveland Heights Landmark Commission denied a demolition request for the Painter Mansion located on the campus of Beaumont School. Beaumont presented a request to demolish this historic structure with the intent of replacing the building with green space. The school's master plan calls for the site to eventually have an athletic field after fundraising and planning efforts can be implemented. 

 

The City of Cleveland Heights Planning Commission will review the demolition proposal at their next meeting on 4/10/19 at 7 p.m. at Cleveland Heights City Hall 40 Severance Circle, Cleveland Heights, OH 44118. The Planning Commission can approve or deny the demolition application. This meeting is open to the public and comments are welcome. 

 

The Painter Mansion was designated as a local landmark in 1979 for its association with the Painter family, the Ursuline Sisters, and as outstanding example of Jacobean Tudor Revival architecture designed by architect Frank Skeel and later remodeled by renowned architects Eckel and Aldrich.

 

Read more about the history of the Painter Estate here.

http://www.chhistory.org/Places.php?PlacesContent=PainterEstate

I would like to know the names of the  Beaumont officials who thought this was a good idea.

Edited March 18, 20196 yr by Htsguy

On 4/17/2018 at 1:22 PM, KJP said:

And another demolition resulting from the continued loss of density. Look at that piece of crap house to the north of it....

 

https://www.google.com/maps/place/1964+E+73rd+St,+Cleveland,+OH+44103/@41.5052454,-81.6378044,3a,75y,230.49h,84.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFo8HJSpkRKLpEQy8IB5_PA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x8830fbafc7626cc1:0x79caad4b0deb986b!8m2!3d41.5050226!4d-81.6380532

 

1964 E 73RD STREET DEMOLITION

 

Back Return to Case List | Start Over | Print Report (PDF format)

 

Project Information

 

Euclid Corridor Case #  EC 2018-014

 

Address: 1964 E 73rd

Company: BD Euclid Ave. LLC

Architect: BD Euclid Ave. LLC

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/brd/detailDR.php?ID=2776&CASE=EC%202018-014

 

This is currently in the process of being taken down. This building was being renovated prior to the current owners purchasing it. They sat on it with demolition in mind for more of the new townhouses they had built next door. It went through the planning commission without any push back. They left the building open to vandals who last week (I think) started a fire and thus gave the owners more cause to take it down. This was a viable apartment building the renovation should have been completed.

^Is the old carriage house next door getting demo-ed too?? Hope not. That thing was a very nifty artist loft as of ~25 years ago.

No. That was designated as a Cleveland Landmark last year.

 

 

That carriage house looks huge, yet it was dwarfed by the house to which it belonged.

Cross-posted from the Midtown thread.  

 

Looks like we captured the same building going down on E. 73rd, between Euclid Ave and Chester Ave. 

 

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Edited March 29, 20196 yr by MuRrAy HiLL

Is something replacing it?

4 minutes ago, urb-a-saurus said:

Is something replacing it?

 

Since what's done is done, I could only hope it is to expand this development of townhomes that are nearby along Euclid Ave:

 

http://www.dimitarchitects.com/one-midtown-townhomes/

 

But I must note, I have zero information of future plans / ownership ... tax benefits / sitting on land hoping to one day make money...

Edited March 29, 20196 yr by MuRrAy HiLL

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I'm surprised the money was found to take this building down.  I wonder if there are plans for the site...this building has sat in this condition for a looooong time.

 

 

 

I'm not surprised. Opportunity Zone investors are knocking on doors, looking to spend money.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5c101e74620b858fbc00f5d0/t/5c82980de5e5f0b7f17edfe7/1552062488141/Opportunity+Corridor+Map.pdf

3 hours ago, Oldmanladyluck said:

I'm surprised the money was found to take this building down.  I wonder if there are plans for the site...this building has sat in this condition for a looooong time.

 

 

 

 

I can't even find a reference to "Victoree, Inc". online.

That is the Victoreen Instrument Company, a former manufacturer of x-ray dosimeter equipment in Cleveland, Ohio. It was considered to be “the first nuclear company.”

 

Generally, garbage inside and partly collapsed at the top. Vacant since 1994 or thereabouts since it moved out.

Edited April 25, 20196 yr by seicer

Final Weeks.

6824 Superior Avenue was demolished this past week, solid little turreted mixed-use block. Hopefully the building next door can be saved, this stretch of Superior is deserted at the moment. 

E. 156th and Huntmere, old apartment building.   The church nearby is rumored to be next.   The gold building at Waterloo has had some exterior work done, but none recently it seems.

 

Is it common/safe to park heavy equipment like this?

 

 

Common, yes.  Safe...one would assume so since it's common....

I'm surprised it hasn't seen an article from Cleveland.com or others. There was quite the kerfuffle when the parking lot operator tried tearing this down some years ago. It went before design review earlier today. I wonder how that went.

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2019/08162019/DF-DRAC-agenda-8-15-19.pdf

 

Project: DF2019-064: 310 Prospect Ave. Demolition

 * The proposed complete demolition of an existing vacant building.

Project Address: 310 Prospect Ave.

Project Representative: Courtney Ray, B&B Wrecking

 

Tons of pictures on the CPC website, oddly enough many of them taken 2012.??

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2019/08162019/index.php

 

 

 

On 6/19/2019 at 6:39 AM, E Rocc said:

E. 156th and Huntmere, old apartment building.   The church nearby is rumored to be next.   The gold building at Waterloo has had some exterior work done, but none recently it seems.

 

Is it common/safe to park heavy equipment like this?

 

I've seen equipment parked on top of rubble before. I don't think it's that common as it requires the worker to traverse debris that could be potentially dangerous to walk on.

As for the church, it's been sad to watch it decay over the years. It was last active around 2011 or so: https://goo.gl/maps/9AYpgqjmmhQM9ojF6

On 8/15/2019 at 2:00 PM, Mendo said:

I'm surprised it hasn't seen an article from Cleveland.com or others. There was quite the kerfuffle when the parking lot operator tried tearing this down some years ago. It went before design review earlier today. I wonder how that went.

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2019/08162019/DF-DRAC-agenda-8-15-19.pdf

 

Project: DF2019-064: 310 Prospect Ave. Demolition

 * The proposed complete demolition of an existing vacant building.

Project Address: 310 Prospect Ave.

Project Representative: Courtney Ray, B&B Wrecking

 

Tons of pictures on the CPC website, oddly enough many of them taken 2012.??

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2019/08162019/index.php

 

 

 

 

Whoa that's the old Record Rendezvous building at 300.   Aren't they connected?

In the suburbs....

 

 

To be demolished....

 

6602 Lansing AVE
 

https://www.google.com/maps/place/6602+Lansing+AVE/@41.452586,-81.64414,3a,75y,182.03h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1svjCkASU3DFGQ7YBvPCdx4g!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x8830e4d4290c6391:0x922aed11326527eb?sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjV-NK9wrbrAhVrTt8KHcuQD9IQxB0wAHoECAsQAg&cshid=1598364263295254

 

14607 Velour Ave
 

https://www.google.com/maps/place/14607+Velour+Ave,+Cleveland,+OH+44110/@41.5471063,-81.5778473,3a,75y,334.75h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQeF7Y_X-F6lyTW4trdXtIw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!4m5!3m4!1s0x8830fe944dc8d36d:0xffc363996f768441!8m2!3d41.5478881!4d-81.5783074

 

Edited August 25, 20204 yr by KJP

Look at this faded beauty at 16500 Euclid that's about to fall. Demo permit was submitted to the City of Cleveland Dec. 23 and will likely be quickly approved considering the unsound condition of the building. This 1920-built, 28-unit apartment building over multiple ground-floor retail spaces measures 28,469 SF. The terra cotta ornaments and solid brick walls are a nice mix. You can still see the ghostly names of past ground-floor retailers, including an unidentified resale shop, The Alcoy Flea Market, Shorty's Barber Shop, Field's Beauty Salon, an unidentified furniture store and Maxine's Lounge. As we often say, they don't make 'em like this anymore. Too bad it's in a part of town no one cares about, between East Cleveland and Euclid....

Very sad.  That's a beautiful, one of a kind building.

I posted the same news/pictures on the Facebook architecture group. A resident who lives nearby said the demolition has already started.

Just checking if anyone saw Glen Petranek's pics of Allen-Sullivan House, pretty amazing stuff. 

 

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=3643771919016262&set=a.112655418794614&__cft__[0]=AZW_JrIjHmSgAdZEHKfagV-7scHIr-QTyQUzUCsxJ-NTKXPFfhcLkNS_m72RXPk6cK0E6c7X6Jm7Gp8dRpje8BDOhSjD03TcccpNxySr8a7RAYQuiTify4mzXkqh3FhErLs&__tn__=EH-R

 

https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=3645984402128347&set=pcb.776238002973037

The Allen Sullivan house and most of the site is up for demolition on the CPC agenda for Friday morning.

 

https://planning.clevelandohio.gov/designreview/drcagenda/2021/PDF/CPC-Agenda-WebEx-meeting-020521.pdf

 

3. EC2021-001 – Proposed Demolition of a 3-Story Former Commercial Building and
attached warehouse building: Seeking Final Approval per §341.08 of the Cleveland
Codified Ordinances
Project Address: 7218 Euclid Avenue aka PPN 118-15-006
Project Representatives: John Wagner, City Architecture
 Aaron Brooker, Signet Real Estate Group

 

4. EC2021-001 – Proposed Demolition of a 1-Story Warehouse Building: Seeking Final
Approval per §341.08 of the Cleveland Codified Ordinances
Project Parcel Number: 118-15-029
Project Representatives: John Wagner, City Architecture
 Aaron Brooker, Signet Real Estate Group

 

5. EC2021-001 – Proposed Demolition of a 1-Story Warehouse Building with Penthouse
Addition: Seeking Final Approval per §341.08 of the Cleveland Codified Ordinances
Project Parcel Number: 118-15-007
Project Representatives: John Wagner, City Architecture
 Aaron Brooker, Signet Real Estate Group

 

6. EC2021-001 – Proposed Demolition of a 1-Story Warehouse Building with attached Office
Area: Seeking Final Approval per §341.08 of the Cleveland Codified Ordinances
Project Parcel Numbers: 118-15-014, - 013, & -030
Project Representatives: John Wagner, City Architecture
 Aaron Brooker, Signet Real Estate Group

 

7. EC2021-002 – Midtown Housing Development New Construction: Seeking Schematic
Design Approval
Project Address: 7218 Euclid Avenue
Project Representatives: John Wagner, City Architecture
 Aaron Brooker, Signet Real Estate Group

welp thankfully avon lake is finally to tear down that sh*tty ginormous eyesore power plant on the lakefront:

 

 

https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2021/06/avon-lake-says-power-plant-will-be-closed-torn-down-with-plans-to-redevelop-lakefront-property.html

11 hours ago, mrnyc said:

welp thankfully avon lake is finally to tear down that sh*tty ginormous eyesore power plant on the lakefront:

 

 

https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2021/06/avon-lake-says-power-plant-will-be-closed-torn-down-with-plans-to-redevelop-lakefront-property.html

 

One guy's eyesore is another's navigational aid (VFR pilots use Avon and Eastlake stacks frequently for reporting points).  

“We are confident that turning this outdated facility, which currently operates fewer than 50 days per year, into usable public land will not only improve the quality of life for our community environmentally, but it will also beautify our lakefront for residents, entrepreneurs and visitors,” Zilka said in a statement released Wednesday."

 

The beach there used to be really great with natural sand dunes and native grasses, truly a beautiful spot that could have doubled as a beach in the Carolinas. I have worked at several power plants and one silver lining to them is that areas within their borders or adjacent tend to re wild or naturally restore themselves; as in the case in Avon the plant property kept the area, to an extent, a protected sanctuary. 

 

Unfortunately an ill-advised erosion control plan destroyed the beach. It is now a very dangerous place to swim with no beach and a swirl of unpredictably bad current along an armored shoreline. Essentially that's the story of our coastline really. 

Edited June 11, 20214 yr by surfohio