September 15, 20204 yr Neither should walking on the multipurpose trail be a death sentence. Edited September 15, 20204 yr by ExPatClevGuy
September 15, 20204 yr Bring a baseball bat. I find them useful when walking in crosswalks across busy intersections anyway. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 16, 20204 yr 11 hours ago, mtnbikefan said: it's a shared path, not a racetrack By this logic, we shouldn't install guardrails. Good design is good design, It doesn't encourage speeding though a shared path. on these paved paths, runoff flows across these curves from high to low, if that coincides with a super in the wrong direction an unsuspecting cyclist can find themselves on the pavement instantly. These are as you wrote, "shared paths", meant to be safe for all users. I see I struck a nerve, because you may have worked on this project. No offense intended. I'm just a cyclist who loves the towpath and one who follows the rules and teaches my kid to do the same. If I'm remembering correctly, I'm specifically talking about this downhill curve shown on the attached picture. The path slopes to the outside of the radius. Edited September 16, 20204 yr by sabotage619
September 16, 20204 yr 10 hours ago, sabotage619 said: By this logic, we shouldn't install guardrails. Good design is good design, It doesn't encourage speeding though a shared path. on these paved paths, runoff flows across these curves from high to low, if that coincides with a super in the wrong direction an unsuspecting cyclist can find themselves on the pavement instantly. These are as you wrote, "shared paths", meant to be safe for all users. I see I struck a nerve, because you may have worked on this project. No offense intended. I'm just a cyclist who loves the towpath and one who follows the rules and teaches my kid to do the same. If I'm remembering correctly, I'm specifically talking about this downhill curve shown on the attached picture. The path slopes to the outside of the radius. Just a tip, if you want a higher res photo with contours (and usually updated more than google) check out the county viewer and use the 'eagleview' widget (https://gis.cuyahogacounty.us/html5viewer/?viewer=cegis). I'm bumping up against my files on here or I'd post a screenshot but I get your point. There definitely are some parts that are questionable, even if you're not racing through here. Most notably coming up into the mounds, there's always water across the trail in that area.
November 17, 20204 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 18, 20204 yr ^A few renderings and updates that were shared during last night’s webinar: Phase 1 is expected to be completed by fall of 2021, featuring the Towpath Trail terminus and initial Canal Basin Park space. It will feature a public pavilion in collaboration with LAND Studio, among new green space, seating areas, and other design features. The adjacent Heritage Park will also be transformed to feature new public boat docks and reconfigured pathways / public spaces. The ultimate goal will be to implement a fully reimagined park from the Towpath Trail to the riverfront, expanding from Phase 1. The plan seems very cool, so I hope it eventually ends up happening.
November 20, 20204 yr Plans look great. The canal basin park paired with the Irishtown Bend Park and Lincoln Park will give the near west side some of the best park access in the county. These parks are really invaluable. I know we get excited about shiny new buildings more than anything else on this forum, but if you have good jobs and great amenities (e.g. parks!!), the apartment buildings build themselves.
November 20, 20204 yr 2 hours ago, LlamaLawyer said: Plans look great. The canal basin park paired with the Irishtown Bend Park and Lincoln Park will give the near west side some of the best park access in the county. These parks are really invaluable. I know we get excited about shiny new buildings more than anything else on this forum, but if you have good jobs and great amenities (e.g. parks!!), the apartment buildings build themselves. Definitely. I'd expect we'll see some hot real estate activity in and around Scranton Peninsula / nearby Flats neighborhoods once shovels hit the ground for Canal Basin Park. One can hope, anyway.
March 23, 20214 yr Cleveland Metroparks moves closer to lakefront trail connection by placing first section of Wendy Park Bridge Steven Litt - Clevalnd.com - Mar. 23, 2021 "Additional sections of the bridge will be lifted into place over the next month. When finished in early summer, the 14-foot-wide bridge will measure 500 feet long and will span the lakefront Norfolk-Southern rail line that bisects Whiskey Island. ... The $6 million span will make it possible for cyclists crossing the old channel of the Cuyahoga River on the Willow Avenue Bridge to reach Wendy Park on Whiskey Island directly from the south via the Cleveland Foundation Centennial Lake Link Trail and the Ohio & Erie Canal Towpath Trail."
March 24, 20214 yr Anyone know when the Bridge is expected to be completed? Neither the posted article or the announcement article on Cleveland.com have a projected completion date 🤦♂️ Found my own answer: projected completion March 2021 which I assume means in the next month or so. https://www.clevelandmetroparks.com/about/cleveland-metroparks-organization/planning/re-connecting-cleveland-tiger-grant-project/wendy-park-bridge Edited March 24, 20214 yr by dastler
March 24, 20214 yr 13 minutes ago, dastler said: Anyone know when the Bridge is expected to be completed? Neither the posted article or the announcement article on Cleveland.com have a projected completion date 🤦♂️ The video above, at 1:11, says it will be completed "early this summer".
March 24, 20214 yr My question is when are they going to start moving on Canal Basin Park itself? Glaciers move faster.
March 24, 20214 yr https://canalwaypartners.com/towpath-trail/canal-basin-park/ They got the bike path down there and thats open. it looks like they're going to do the lawn area in august
March 24, 20214 yr Just got back from a ride down there, they're hydroseeding along the road (Whiskey Island Dr.) and they were prepping (it seemed) to get the next section of bridge up on the Willow Bridge Side. To an untrained eye, it seemed like it might be too windy to lift today, but what do I know hahaha Edited March 24, 20214 yr by GISguy
April 7, 20214 yr It is amazing that this is finally becoming a reality. I first heard of this possibility at least 20 years ago. Ed Hauser and Wendy’s dad were visionary. The scale of ridicule and the amount of “no” that they and all the others that have carried on his vision since had to endure and overcome to make this happen would have broken many. A truly inspirational achievement. May the pedestrian path on the train bridge also become a reality soon. Edited April 7, 20214 yr by ragarcia
April 7, 20214 yr 7 minutes ago, ragarcia said: It is amazing that this is finally becoming a reality. I first heard of this possibility at least 20 years ago. Ed Hauser and Wendy’s dad were visionary. The scale of ridicule and the amount of “no” that they and all the others that have carried on his vision since had to endure and overcome to make this happen would have broken many. A truly inspirational achievement. May the pedestrian path on the train bridge also become a reality soon. There's a possibility that extending the Red Line Greenway over the RTA viaduct may not happen. See the Cleveland Union Terminal/Tower City thread in the railways/transportation section. If Amtrak chooses Tower City for its hub, there is another way to link the Red Line Greenway into downtown....the Flats Industrial Railroad is shutting down and will probably be for sale. If no railroad user acquires it (and I can't imagine there would be since the flour mill in the Flats has closed), then this could be a trail candidate to link the Red Line Greenway, Towpath Trail, Lake Link and Scranton Peninsula. I hope that a trail along the Flats Industrial RR celebrates the historical importance of this rail line. It was Cleveland's first railroad, led by Cleveland's first village president Alfred Kelley, father of the Ohio Canal and the reason why Cleveland became a big city. But he saw the future was in railroads and led investors to win a state charter for the Cleveland, Columbus and Cincinnati Railroad. In 1845, and with the charter due to expire in the absence of construction, Kelley organized, rolled up his sleeves and joined up with a group of laborers to start construction of the line in Walworth Run to prove to the state that the charter should be extended. The first segment of the line, from Cleveland to Wellington, opened for business in 1849. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland,_Columbus_and_Cincinnati_Railroad "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 13, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, originaljbw said: Bridge progress! Nice, I didn’t realize there was going to be an arch component to it. It looks better now.
April 13, 20214 yr Cleveland Metroparks (@clevemetroparks) Tweeted: Progress! This morning, Cleveland Metroparks installed a 250 foot long arch atop the future Wendy Park Bridge. A very complicated & technical piece that required a lot of teamwork. We’re on track for an early summer opening! 👏 https://t.co/cUE76zr13z https://twitter.com/clevemetroparks/status/1381693744571940867?s=20
April 21, 20214 yr Absolutely love the arch on the new bridge and how it works with the other bridge types in the area.
April 21, 20214 yr This is from the other day - the exit point will come to about where I was standing. It looks like they redid the cement on the lift bridge sidewalk. That'll be a narrow bike ride 😬
May 19, 20214 yr Bike Pump Track. https://www.cleveland19.com/2021/05/19/cleveland-metroparks-announces-plans-bike-pump-track-mountain-bike-trail-extension/
June 5, 20214 yr 22 hours ago, LlamaLawyer said: Pretty significant rezoning just approved by CPC. Hopefully just a first step in the area being developed into a new mixed use neighborhood. Am I wrong in seeing this rezoning as a shrinking the planned area of canal basin park?
June 10, 20214 yr Collision Bend News https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/a-wrinkle-in-the-plans-for-irishtown-bend-at-the-corner-of-detroit-avenue-and-west-25th
June 10, 20214 yr 26 minutes ago, simplythis said: Collision Bend News https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/a-wrinkle-in-the-plans-for-irishtown-bend-at-the-corner-of-detroit-avenue-and-west-25th Irishtown Bend is not Collision Bend. So many bends in our crooked river. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
June 10, 20214 yr On 6/5/2021 at 9:49 AM, Ethan said: Am I wrong in seeing this rezoning as a shrinking the planned area of canal basin park? I guess it depends on what you consider a shrinking. 👇🏼 This is the proposed park, and based on that, no.
June 10, 20214 yr 3 hours ago, Enginerd said: I guess it depends on what you consider a shrinking. 👇🏼 This is the proposed park, and based on that, no. "Depends" is fair, I can still find several city affiliated sources describing the proposed park as 20 acres. What is shown in that master plan adds up with existing green space to make 9. For what it's worth, the same presentation you got that from shows the same extents on a different slide. I was taking it to mean that the other land still needed to be acquired.
June 10, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Ethan said: "Depends" is fair, I can still find several city affiliated sources describing the proposed park as 20 acres. What is shown in that master plan adds up with existing green space to make 9. For what it's worth, the same presentation you got that from shows the same extents on a different slide. I was taking it to mean that the other land still needed to be acquired. Interesting. From this presentation (https://canalwaypartners.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Towpath-Trailhead-Greening_11.16.20.pdf) in November, they make it sound like the plan is to have a patchwork of parks down here. No mention of adding properties they need to acquire or the viaduct gateway park.
June 10, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, Enginerd said: Interesting. From this presentation (https://canalwaypartners.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Towpath-Trailhead-Greening_11.16.20.pdf) in November, they make it sound like the plan is to have a patchwork of parks down here. No mention of adding properties they need to acquire or the viaduct gateway park. My understanding is that the idea of Canal Basin Park is to unite those several smaller parks into one. What confuses me is that while they've been more or less consistent with the general outline of "canal basin park" for years, they have been very unclear about the specifics for about half of that land. How or if they will acquire it, etc. Hopefully it is just a matter of time. Hence why the zoning change worries me. It suggests a lack of united planning on behalf of the city. The part I care about most is that Canal Basin Park is bounded by the river on two sides, not just to the North. That's one of the things that will make the park cool, so it will punch above its acreage. The land is question is a Sherwin Williams parcel, which I believe was transferred to the city in the HQ deal, so it is in their hands to do with as they please.
September 27, 20213 yr Towpath Trail news. https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/whats-going-on-with/towpath-trailhead-construction-transforming-former-parking-lots-under-veterans-memorial-bridge
September 29, 20213 yr I'm just as excited to learn that a TV news reporter rides the Rapid! Great news all the way around. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 16, 20213 yr 21 minutes ago, Ethan said: Work continues! This is an exciting project. I rode the lake link trail last weekend starting in lakewood through edgewater on the lake front trail to Tremont. I have to say that this trail network is impressive. The new parks will make it all better.
October 17, 20213 yr 5 hours ago, freefourur said: This is an exciting project. I rode the lake link trail last weekend starting in lakewood through edgewater on the lake front trail to Tremont. I have to say that this trail network is impressive. The new parks will make it all better. I agree, it is unbelievable. Past Tremont, you can make it right unto Steelyard Commons very easily. And of course keep going from there to Cinemark in the Valley and then further south. A truly spectacular network.
October 19, 20213 yr I thought it would be interesting to overlay the current master plan over the framework plan. It'll be interesting to see how the rest the area covered in the framework area is fleshed out! Also, does anyone know the timeline for moving between the current passed they're working on to the next (see below)? The road closures will make such a big difference to this feeling like one park, instead of several disconnected green spaces!
November 20, 20213 yr Still plenty of work to do on the park, but it looks like the last leg of the Towpath Trail has now been paved!
December 17, 20213 yr Canal Basin Park Trailhead Nearing Completion POSTED ON DECEMBER 16, 2021 BY MERA CARDENAS https://canalwaypartners.com/canal-basin-park-trailhead-nearing-completion/
January 1, 20223 yr This doesn't directly relate to the trail, but I know that the old B&O Passenger Station was being considered to be a part of the park, either as a CVSR depot, trailside lodge, or history center. Anyways, I found some pictures that someone took inside the building from 2014. I would love for this building to be preserved and be incorporated into the park. http://www.climbingthefence.com/2014/09/an-abandoned-train-station.html
January 16, 20223 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 23, 20223 yr Canal Basin and Center Street Bridge progress (2-22-22) View of the work from the Red Line from a couple of weeks ago. It's a little sad to see the Lorenzo Carter Cabin and the heritage park area go. I always liked it just because it seemed so out of place amidst the industry, bridges, freighters and newer developments. A finished Canal Basin Park will be a great upgrade though.
February 23, 20223 yr Oh jeeze, I didn't realize the cabin was being removed. That was always a nice piece of history, and I enjoyed walking guests by down there and the reactions at seeing a log cabin in the middle of Cleveland. Is it being moved somewhere else, or just gone for good now?
February 23, 20223 yr 33 minutes ago, PoshSteve said: Oh jeeze, I didn't realize the cabin was being removed. That was always a nice piece of history, and I enjoyed walking guests by down there and the reactions at seeing a log cabin in the middle of Cleveland. Is it being moved somewhere else, or just gone for good now? I would do a similar thing when going on bike rides through town with people. I had a number life long Clevelanders say something like "Wait, there a log cabin downtown?" The Cabin has been demolished and there don't appear to be any plans to rebuild one in the new Canal Basin Park. It was built in the 1970s, and log cabins don't last too long so by now it was in pretty rough shape. It's impressive it lasted for ~45 years though considering it was in one of the worst environments possible for a log cabin (feet from a river, under a bridge, and next to one of the most industrialized areas in the country).
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